This is Doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to k I Am six forty, the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. I Am six forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Welsh Show. I am here every Sunday from seven to nine where I talk about the science of love, not just love, all our relationships. In fact, tonight I want to talk a lot about our workplace relationships. I'm not talking about, you know, have a little fun in the workplace.
I'm talking about how to deal with a toxic boss, how to have better relationships with your coworkers, how to have better relationship with a non inclusive workplace, how to leave a job if you should, and even how to have a better relationship with your commute. Let's talk about work. I also want to talk about our love lives a little bit, and I will be taking your calls and answering your social media questions a little later. Because there's this
term thrown around in psychology. I think it was coined back in the seventies, actually called limerence and allimerence is like an intense crush that lasts a long time, and it's very unrequited. And when I read about limerence, I immediately think, well, that's an anxious attachment style. So we're gonna sort of tease it out. What's the difference between limerens and an anxious attachment style? And what do you do about it? Producer Kayla's with us? How
you doing? I am? I'm all right, Doctor Wendy good. Yeah, thank you for carrying my bags up that video. I showed my sister it is not her job. It is not her job to carry me. Let's be very clear about this, Okay. So here's what happened. I was watching the last few scenes of My Aestra my Maestro Maestro, how to say that word Mastrol? No, that's the maestro stro It's got an A and an E and I don't know, uh the Bradley Cooper movie and uh
I got. I was sitting actually at my dining room table watching it on a computer, just the last few scenes that I hadn't done, and I stood up to go to the restroom and fell flat on my face. I have no idea why, except that my foot was asleep and I didn't know it. How do you like not know, you got a dead foot and then you try to step on it. So anyway, I was at urgent care today. I'm in a big old boot. You have a big old ball on the top of your foot, the biggest thing you ever. It
looks like a fist on the top of your follet. He metoma. Anyway, the doctor didn't seem to see a fracture. He said he wanted to wait until the radiologist looks at the X ray tomorrow. But the ski boot I'm wearing or whatever it is, feels great, very supportive. So sweet Kla came down to the garage to help me carry my purse and a nice, nice producer. It was nice to see your beautiful Tesla and your beautiful face and your beautiful loot. I actually need to have the car wash anyway,
so if anybody knows, I'm just throwing this out here. So I was an early adopter to the Tesla World. I've had it for so many years and it's got like nice ty thousand miles on it. That's the most any cars ever had in my lifetime of cars, because I used to do like a thirty six month least. But I keep interviewing Uber drivers whenever Uber drivers pick you up in a Tesla, I'm always like, how many miles you got and what kind of things have broken down? Right? Because I've
done nothing to this car except change tires. I've had to change the tires twice, but nothing like nothing. I'm gonna knock on wood here, nothing mechanically. Do the Uber drivers have the same luck as you are? Because one of those told me he's got like two hundred thousand miles and never did anything to it. I was worried about the brakes, so I took the brakes and I took it in to check the brakes, and they said, no, your brakes are fine. You know why because it stops itself like
kind of a golf cart. You know, when you take your foot off the gas, the engine stops itself. So you only use the brakes at the very last minute. Oh, it doesn't wear them down. This is not an advertisement for Tesla. I think Elon is brilliant and crazy and but I'm just curious if anybody out there has put like two hundred thousand miles on
their Tesla, can you please send me how do they do it? They can message you on social media at doctor Wendy Welsh, or they could send us a talkback on the iHeartRadio app a DM on social media at doctor Wendy Walsh. I check Instagram the most and how do you do the talkback? The talkback is in the left hand corner of the iHeartRadio app. I believe it's a microphone button. They pressed that and they could send you a thirty second voice message while I'm on air, while it only works during the two
hours that I'm on air. Well, they could select your show whenever they want to throughout the week if they so choose, they have to select your show. They want to talk back? Yeah, they talk back. They talked back weekly, Doctor Wendy. Okay, So the Academy Awards nominations are out. You know I always had that, remember it. They were always criticized for being a bunch of old white men, and during the last decade
they've actually they've changed. Right now, there are more than ten thousand members, about ninety five hundred are eligible to vote. That's a sixty five percent increase from their membership total a decade ago. They've made very big initiatives to have more women, people of color, and filmmakers from around the world join their ranks. There are in fact seventeen different branches, so you get to vote like for your own branch. The directors vote for directors, makeup artists
vote for makeup artists, et cetera, et cetera. So sounds all good. I always wonder like, how do they pick the actual Best Picture? And it's done by something called a preferential ballot. Have you ever heard of this, Kayla? It's like a weaning down right, So and only for the Best Picture. It's the biggest prize you know, of the night. So what they do is they ask everyone in the Academy to rank the nominees from most favorite to least favorite, and if a film gets at least fifty
percent of the number one votes, well clearly it wins. But that never happens, right, So instead they just keep shrinking it. They get rid of the ones with fewer votes, and so the process keeps continue as they eliminate the lowest vote earners, and then they redistribute it as needed until they have third or fourth favorites, until one film breaks the fifty percent rule.
Isn't that interesting? Yeah, So here's what we need to talk about the things that are bothering me and I'm liking Barbie got the snub that bothered me. So we know, Oppenheimer got the most amount of nominations, thirteen, and uh, let's see who got number two? Poor Things though, No, yeah, poor Things got eleven, and then Barbie's way down there with only eight. And here's what bothered me. So Ryan Gosling, who played Ken, got an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actor, but Greta Gerwig,
the director, did not. Margot Robbie did not. It's a movie about the patriarchy, and they only give the nomination to the boy and not the girls. Who's the background character for the most part in the movie, right second to Margo. Now here's another interesting thing. The movie itself was nominated for Best Picture, but never in the history of Best Picture nominations as director not also like a director not been nominated. So therefore Greta was like kind
of snubbed by the people in her category like the other directors. What's that about? I don't know, because I've only heard good things about her, So what was that? Okay? So Oppenheimer was the boy movie got the most nominations. In case you've been living under a rock. It's this guy Oppenheimer oversaw the construction of the Los Alamos lab and he gathered the best minds
and physics to work on creating an atomic bomb bomb. Because of his leadership in this project, he's often referred to as the father of the atomic bomb. So is this movie a comment about the dangers of male power? Right? If you could think about it that way, like, if you create the ultimate destructive power, it will also destroy maybe those near and dear to you. Maybe it's a it's a foreboding message, not just a rah rah
or boys, we can make bombs. It makes you think. And then I haven't seen it, but I'm dying to see poor things with Emma Stone. So it's basically a Frankenstein story where a mad scientist gets a hold of a body of a woman who's just committed suicide and she's pregnant, but the brain of the of the baby is still living, so he takes it and implants it in the mom. And so she is a full grown woman who's an infant, and then she develops really quickly because she learns. So but
here's the thing. I watched the trailer. I read all kinds of interviews about it, and so it's about a woman who is free from society's pressure because she thinks childlike, an infant like, and learns very quickly. So she never has to grow up like a little girl being told you can't or so she owns her. No, she does have to deal with, you know, the two kinds of men, the bad player guy and then the nice guy and figure that out. But she learns super quickly. So maybe
it's the ultimate feminist movie. Maybe I don't know, but come on, Greta Gerwig. Think snob really bothers me, really bothers me? All right, enough with me ranting. When we come back, let us talk about our workplace. Let us talk about our mental health in our workplace and why mental health matters at work. You are listening to the Doctor Wendy wallsh Show
on KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI AM six forty AFI am six forty. You have doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Waalsh Show. Our workplace. We spend so much time at work, think of it. Think of it this way. About one hundred and sixty million people in America are in our workforce today. The average full time employee spends half of their waking life at work. Right, it's another place. It's
a well. We talk a lot about third spaces that we don't have enough in America. First space, of course, is our home. Second space is our work. Third space is supposed to be all our social life. We don't do enough of. But our work dominates. You know, it can impact our mental health depending on what's going on. I mean, think of it. Let's go back four years January of twenty twenty. Nobody could have predicted how much our lives would have changed because of what happened in the
next few years. We had the COVID nineteen pandemic and all the mental health events that happened because of quarantine, because of isolation. We had the murders of George Floyd and other Black Americans by police. We had the rise in violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, and increase in wildfires. Media coverage of the wars of Ukraine and the Middle East, and all this got together
and started to impact our collective mental health. I will say that I don't think our mental health has played out in any space more than our workplace, and there's all kinds of data to support this. Right. Some research I've read today from Harvard said that our mental health problems increased from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one. And who's suffering the most younger and historically underrepresented workers.
In fact, sixty eight Get this number, sixty eight percent of millennials and eighty one percent of gen Zers have left their jobs for mental health reasons, sometimes voluntarily, sometimes involuntarily, And the most common workplace factors that led to quitting were that work was just draining, stressful, overwhelming, boring, monotonous, and an impossible work life balance. This is why the US Surgeon General has issued new guidance for employers. It literally, it is a public health
crisis. So let's talk about what these guidelines are. First of all, workplaces need to put mental health at the center of their workplace policies. Now, I'm going to give you some bad news because I read this article recently in the New York Times, because the data is starting to show up. So what workplaces we're doing is saying, well, here's the thing in place. We have a therapist on staff, and you could go see the therapist
for free. Do you think anybody who's going to disclose their deepest, darkest secrets to a workplace therapist. That's like going to HR with your boss in the room, right, Like, that's probably not gonna happen. The other thing they've done is things like, oh, we have an app. Now it's named Normy or something, and they give it these funny names and you can go onto the app and you can get talk therapy, or talk to a robot about your problems, or find a mental health professional. Well,
the data is showing that this does not work. Here's what can work. According to the American Psychological Association, they've created their own set of recommendations to help employers improve mental health in the workplace. So if you are an employer, listen up. First of all, you got to start by training your managers to support employees' mental health. You know, I hate to quote Kanye West, but there's one little bit of wisdom he said once. He said
his mental health is like a bruise. When someone has a bruise, you don't go and push on it. But when someone has a mental health episode. People push on the pain and so saying to an employee, why do you have all those missing days? Oh, come on, you're weak or you could sock it up. You can get through this, right. That's
not what your managers should be saying. By the way, Kaylea, did you know we have a new law that started on January first of this year that says, in the state of California, if you are a full time worker, an independent contractor a part time work any kind of worker, whether you work three hours a week or whether you work three hundred hours a week, you get five paid sick days per year. Real started January first in the good old state of California. Got stop coming right, five paid and
they can be used for mental health or physical health. Right. So train your managers to understand all this. Also, the APA has suggested that workplaces increase employees options for where, when, and how they work. We now know that there are plenty of jobs that you do not have to be in
the office for. I think call centers have pretty much disappeared. People are home with that because I've called and I have heard children in the background, dogs in the background, chickens in the background, but those are the ones in the Philippines. But I have I'm not making fun of somebody. I've actually heard these things. This is the truth, you know. Today, when I went to urgent care, you go to the desk and there's no human there, right, And then I hear like this voice come out of
a speaker going hello, Hello. I can't see you. Can you tilt the camera down? I'm like what? And then I see there's a little tent card on the desk saying go, you know, pointing with an arrow, go here to sign in. And I look and there's a dude on a screen and I'm like you talking to me, and he's like, yeah, you checking in for services. I'm like yeah. And he was real. He wasn't like a AI. He was like a real He has a little curtain hanging behind him with the extra care on it, but he was
a home in his dining room. No, he was real because I had to like put my driver's license in and my health insurance card in the machine and it ate it and he got it. I did all this stuff, all my forms, I put it in and yeah, the future, Yeah, he's working from home. He was not a robot. He was a human Okay, But again, jobs like that, they don't always have to be at work all the time, especially if they have the burden of childcare.
Also, make sure that your health insurance in your workplace. I'm talking to owner's boss as managers, make sure your health insurance have robust mental health coverage, not just an app, not just seeing a therapist in the office, but coverage that says you can go out and get your own mental health services and we will pay for that. Also, listen to your employees and let them give anonymous feedback so that they can improve and evolve in the workplace
culture. And of course, the APA recommends that workplaces need to design policies through a lens of equity, diversity, and inclusion. I mean, we hear these words all the time. Let me tell you what it means. It means making sure that every employee feels that they belong, that they are part of the family, that they can be themselves at work, and their self might involve a certain kind of attire, a certain cadence of speech from their ethnicity, a voice just a way to talk, but a sense you
have to give everybody a chance to contribute, because hello, Hello. There's also research to show that the more diverse the voices in your workplace, the higher your productivity and the higher your profits. That is clear because who do you think you're selling to consumers? And your employees have to reflect who these consumers are. Anyway, when people feel like they've got more control over their lives, ultimately, it reduces psychological distress and improves everybody's mental well being.
All right, maybe you're an employee not a boss. When we come back, let's talk about why you hate your job and what you can do about it. You're listening the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI AM six four. Hey, if I am six forty you of Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Showkayla, what's the worst job you ever had? We all had a bad job.
Chicky's and Pete's waitressing in Atlantic City, New Jersey on the boardwalk. I'm at like seventeen hour shifts. We'll owe them money at the end of the day. It was crazy there. Oh my gosh. Yeah, well food and beverage. Man, that's hard, hard work. Mine was. I was in college, was I? Yeah, I hadn't graduated with my BA yet and I had a job at a restaurant as a hostess. But the restaurant was dead and I was told I was not allowed to leave my hostess
station. So I stood there totally bored. Every once in a while, if I was lucky, I would find a pile of napkins to fold. But the worst moment, because I had a brain, I had to be thinking and talking, not just standing there being a pretty face. And then the worst time is a group of young women executives. This goes way back to the eighties. As they left, they said, I'd be bored to tears with your job. Wow it back adding the shame onto it or something
i'mdescending. Yeah, I did not like that. You're a teenager. No, I was in college, so I was like twenty one or twenty two. I've had so many weird job what's the weirdest job you had? Was it that one? No? I worked for a Dare after Dare wasn't even a thing, and I really did the cacam kids off drugs. One. Yeah, I thought I think it was a scam. Did you go to schools and talk to you No. I stood outside of grocery stores asking people to donate to dare I think, I really do think I was scammed for
like I only did for like a month or tube. I realized, like, this isn't this doesn't seem real. You know. The most interesting weird job I had is one time I walked. I worked for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in their Historical Archives division. And my job, this was in the eighties, It was everything was going on to be computerized or onto microfilm was to read paper old case files and I had a whole list to decide
if something had historical significance or not. That actually sounds really entertaining. I had to go probably had so much fun. I had the pictures too. I had to go to the bathroom with throps a few times. Why this wasn't a Dick Wolf show. This was the real life. Yeah, that's rough head. You still like to see him clearly. Actually the one, the one case that really got me the most is uh. I think his
name was Sergeant Marty MacComb. I still remember his name. Father of three in his police cruiser got stuck in a snowstorm, and he wrote love letters to everybody in his family, and the police kept him in his personnel file. Oh this was in the seventies. I would just ugly cry and he was he was buried in snow in his car and he slowly died. He got in the back seat near the end. And so say you didn't make
it. Although I'm just telling everybody, if you ever traveled a cold weather here's a Canadian thing that obviously Sergeant Marty McComb did not know back then. Keep in your glove compartment everybody, if you go to ski resort, the mountains, whatever, just one pillar candle, a six eight inch tall pillar candle. If you light it inside and lighters matches something inside your car, it will keep the interior of a car warm for at least twenty four hours.
See, just keep a candle. Oh that's good to know, but we didn't know back then. Yeah, it was a time. Okay, So those are my jobs, some of them. I had jobs that I loved in jobs that I hated. But a recent poll from Gallop Gallop Gallop people said that only of one billion full time workers, Only fifteen percent like their work, an astronomical eighty five percent of people are unhappy with their jobs. Why it's about the relationships. Now, stay with me. Your relationship
with your boss. Maybe it's a toxic relationship and the boss is a tyrant. Maybe you are being ignored and unheard. This relationship has more impact on your mental health than any other relationship. You know, you've got a choice. You're either going to get up and get out the door, or you're going to find a way to have a good relationship. Now, I want to remind you your boss should not be your best friend. Shouldn't be hugging or touching your boss, right. They do have authority over you and you
have to do a lot of y s ma'ams. Okay, But having said that, if you're feeling completely unseen, unheard, dismissed, or somebody yelling at you for no reason, it is okay to go to HR. I would say find somebody else at their level who can be your advocate, who can support you so you can work through that relationship. The research also shows that we have a terrible relationship with the road. On average, people are driving longer and longer five days a week now here in Los Angeles with freeways,
it's worse than probably any other city in America. But if you find yourself. You know that I have a little farm up in Oregon. I spend some time up there, and it's a big drive to get into the nearest city. It's fourteen minutes. And everyone complains if I try to get a worker to come out, Oh you're way out there. Don't know if I can do You were at fourteen minutes, okay, guys, and I always come back with you know, in LA we allow ourselves an hour to
get anywhere okay, And they're shocked. Why would you do that? How could you live like that? And here we are in traffic, feeling late, frustrated, our bodies aren't moving yet. We have the stress of traffic, but we're not able to get it out of our system. You know that one of the ways to literally improve your mental health and your relationship is your with your work, is to just move closer to your work, or get work closer to your house. You know, when I was a kid,
we moved all the time because my dad was military. My mom always wanted to buy the house that was absolutely closest to the school because she wanted the three of us kids to be able to walk to school. Now, when I became a mom in La and I saw how hard it was, well, all the carpools and the driving and the kids going to different schools or whatever. I remember going out and renting an apartment across the street from a school, and my reletter said, why are you getting this apartment?
I said, ten drives a week. That's why I'm going to get my life back ten hours a week or more, maybe twenty, because it was an hour each way by the time you drive to the school and drive back, right crazy. Even if you love your job, your mental health will improve if you change jobs as closer to your house. That's just research on that, okay. And then I mentioned earlier relationship with your work culture. You don't have a sense of belonging. That means you need to go find
people in your organization who are supportive. You need to find out who's in your manager's network. Get other people on your team right, make allies, make allies around the office. You know, there's research to show why people hate their jobs. For many it's because risk terrifies them. You know, the devil you know is better than the devil. You don't. They're just afraid to make a change, or it's because they know they're lazy. They
don't want to learn something new. The thought of just having to learn a new skill is terrifying to many people. Other people are in what I call those golden handcuffs. Right is good, their benefits are good, their retirement's good, but everything else is the pits. But they stay with it because on paper, they're living the life, but they're very unhappy. Also, there are people that just secretly love to complain. That's it, that they're
just whiners. People bond actually at the workplace complaining about workplaces. That's something that happens in every workplace. Some people stay in their bad jobs because they're still, no matter how old they are, trying to please their parents. They don't want to disappoint their parents who said, no, you went to medical school, you're going to be a doctor. No, I want to
work in forestry. I want to be with trees or whatever. Right, or maybe it's your spouse or your friends or anybody else who you live in. For now, here's what I know for sure. There's lots of research to show that if you have a best friend at work. If you're able to bond with a coworker I mean friends with boundaries, right, then you will not only be more protect productive, your mental health will be better, the company at large will be will produce more. But it's hard for people
to make friends at work. They don't know where the rules are or the boundaries are. Later in the show, back to the very end of the show, I'm going to talk about how to make a best friend at work or anywhere else. But when we come back, I've got some psychology tricks to help you get that promotion you've been wanting for a long time. You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show and I AM six forty. We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI AM six forty. Apparently he wants a pay raise. Ki Am six forty of Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendywaalsh Show. I have a PhD in clinical psychology. I've written three books on relationships, and I'm talking about workplace relationships because they're so important to our mental health. But I love how psychology can be used to get what you want in life.
You know, every time when I was in graduate school and my BA was in journalism, I got a midlife master's and PhD in psychology, I would sit there and in every single class I'd be like, Oh, my goodness, everybody needs to know this. I can't believe they keep these secrets for therapists that you have to pay one hundred dollars or two hundred dollars an hour for a fifty minute hour. Actually, I think therapy is the most wonderful thing. I have the beneficiary of some great therapy. But let's talk
about ways that you can get that promotion that you've always wanted. Now, first of all, I want to say this, sometimes, depending on the workplace, it is just not possible. You ever heard that saying you can't get blood from a stone, or doing the same thing over and over and
hoping for a different result is the definition of insanity. So, if you're in a workplace for a long period of time and you're continue to be overlooked and overlooked and overlooked, you need to make yourself into the shiny new penny for a different employer, because it's not happening here. Okay. But let's say you started a job, you've been there a year or so, and it's time for you to move up. Here's some advice I have for you. Be a perfect employee. First of all, that means always be on
time and ready to go. My daughter likes to use the term a go getter. You have to be a go getter. Right. So, even if you happen to work and one of those workplaces that's kind of a little loosey goosey, it's got its own quirky schedule, it's still better for you to be the one on time or early. And that means every single day, for every single meeting. People who are not perfect employees do not get promotions. Now here's the other thing. It's fun at an office to find
all the problems that exist and complain about them. But what if you become the one who doesn't just identify problems in the workplace, but actually solve he them, actually go to the boss and says, hey, I've got a great idea to make this thing more efficient. What do you think of this?
Right? That's how you stand out as a growing leader. Now this applies whether you work at a big, you know, corporation, or whether you're at a smoothie shop and you're like, hey, I just noticed we're wasting too much of the product because we're pouring it before we hear them say large or small or whatever. You'll find the problems. Here's a secret. Every human being on the planet wants to work less. We want to do
less work, all of us, right, especially your boss. So if anything you can do to make your boss's life easier and minimize their workload, the more that you will be appreciated and recognized. Here's an example. Years and years and years ago, after the Great Recession, I just got my PhD in clinical psychology. I had come from the TV business right. I was a local news anchor and I was a host of all kinds of shows.
I have my own production company. For a while, I knew how TV worked, and I said, Okay, if I'm going to get on television as a voice, as a psychological authority, in some way, I've got to reach out to producers. By the way, when I was sitting around, sitting around birth and babies and breastfeeding, a lot of my former
colleagues had been promoted. So I found them all on Facebook, and I started getting all their emails and i'd look and see who their friends were and find out their colleagues, etc. And I built this kind of email list, and every week I would send out a little tip sheet. I would go through the news and I would do one story on sports, one story on politics, one story on interpersonal relationships, one story on something else going on in the news, and I would say, doctor Wendy's take, and
I'd just write one sentence, right. So then when a producer would try me out and be like, hey, so we're thinking and by the way, they never ever once used one of the stories I pitched, but you know what, my weekly pitch sheet kept me in their radar. So they started a call, and then more would call. So then a producer would call and they'd be like, hey, so we're thinking to have you on you know, Don Lemon on Saturday whatever, and here's the topic in me.
So you know, I'd say, okay, could just send us a few talking points, is what they say. So you know what I would do. I would write the entire anchor intro. I would write out his questions, my answers, and the anchor clothes I'd write the entire segment out, which they may use or and may not use. But they used me over and over and over because I did their work for them. Do that for your boss, do that for your co workers, and then you become
indispensable. And also, don't run around taking the credit. Make your boss look good. Make sure that you make sure that your boss gets credit for even a lot of the stuff you're doing. I know, I know, but that's how you get promoted. That's how you're a team player. It's about being a team Also, here's a psychological secret. Ask for advice.
I know it seems totally counterintuitive, but when you ask your boss for advice, it can yield so many dividends because humans perceive those who seek advice as more committent than those don't. Asking questions makes you look smart, makes you look curious, makes you look like you're going to be there a long time. And also advance your education. Whatever you can do to propel your career growth. I know young people who are working full time and then going to
law school at night. I know people in fact, the technician, the X ray technician at the urgent Care today who took care of my foot x ray. He was telling me that he's also in nursing school at night. You know, he wants to be a full time, full fledged nurse at some point. So always be thinking about what other training do I need? What else can I be doing? Finally, don't expect immediate results. I mean, yeah, focus on your personal development. Find ways to become a
well rounded human. You know, what I say about relationships in general is that happy people have happy relationships. Happiness is an inside job. Workplaces don't make you happy, they can make you unhappy. People don't make you happy or unhappy. It's what you do. So make yourself happy, practice some self care, some self growth, and then your workplace will get a lot better. All right, When we come back, can we talk about this concept of limerens. It's a crazy crush, and I think we'll go should
we be? Go live on Instagram when we come back, and then we'll be taking your calls after this. Let's get into love, shall we? When we come back. You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show on KFI AM six forty We Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening to Doctor Wendy Walls You can always hear us live on KFI Am six forty from seven to nine pm on Sunday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app