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Episode 2 - Consent

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Welcome back to 'The Late Shift with Dr Goodvibes', your home for advice on love, sex, relationships and kink on the Jawbone Podcast Network. On this week's episode, the doctor offers advice on dating a much younger romantic in the workplace, and spills (some more of) the beans to Katie, at an overpriced rooftop bar.

Dr Goodvibes is a Neon Diner podcast, written and produced by Richard P. Doyle, co-produced, edited and with sound design by Ramon Samson. Voice talents provided by Richard P. Doyle, Rachel Slee, and Emily Teede.

CW: Dr Goodvibes is intended for mature audiences, and contains both adult language and subject matter best enjoyed by fully-grown and consenting adults.

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Transcript

Alana

Dr. Good Vibes contains strong language, adult themes, and depictions of high impact sex and or violence. This podcast is recommended for mature audiences. Listener discretion is advised.

Announcer

This is The Late Shift with Dr. Good Vibes on the Jawbone Podcast Network. If you're listening to this, it's probably time to go to bed, but we assure you It's not yet time to go to sleep.

Katie

Hal. Hal.

Hal

Huh? What?

Katie

What did you think?

Hal

Of what?

Katie

The new bumper.

Hal

Oh, oh, uh, oh, uh, right. Sorry. Um, honestly, I, I, I don't hear a difference.

Katie

They changed the backing track slightly. It's faster.

Hal

Okay.

Katie

And the wordings changed. It used to be, hold on. But definitely not time to go to sleep.

Hal

And what is it now?

Katie

But we assure you, it's not yet time to go to sleep.

Hal

Okay.

Katie

So you're fine with it?

Hal

Sure. Yes. Approved.

Katie

Great. I'll let them know. Thank you.

Hal

Have you met the voice actor that does all our promos?

Katie

What?

Hal

The voice actor that does all the, all the bumpers and all that stuff. Like I, like I picture her a certain way in my head, but I don't know, I've always been curious.

Katie

Yeah, it's a Vocaloid.

Hal

A what?

Katie

A voice synthesis computer.

Hal

Really?

Katie

Yeah. For years now they use it for all the promos.

Hal

Is that allowed?

Katie

Apparently.

Hal

Wild.

Katie

Aw, did Hal have a little crush on the robot?

Hal

Yeah, I think I might have. I should probably examine that.

Katie

Good call.

Hal

Do I even want to know why we're changing our bumpers for the fourth time in six months?

Katie

Not unless you want to hear about per listener audio engagement micrometrics.

Hal

It will shock you not at all to discover that I do not.

Katie

They also mentioned that people seem to like it when you speak French and refer to me as Nurse Katie. So they want you to do both of those things more.

Hal

Really?

Katie

Apparently.

Hal

Fine. Certainly not the worst set of network notes we've received.

Katie

Agreed. Okay. Done. You ready? Hal!

Hal

Mm. Uh, yes. Yes. Ready. Who have we got?

Katie

Two live calls. One's right up first, and we'll do the other after lunch. I've got three pre records and one write in. I'll read that one out to you, but Noah's gonna come in after you leave and record the VO for it.

Hal

Ah, good for him. Is he around? I could use a top up.

Katie

He's doing a production attachment with that Simpsons rewatch in Studio 6 this week.

Hal

Oh yeah? Which, which one?

Katie

Tope's Lose, I think. The one with the guy that, uh, voice actor who played Santa's little helper?

Hal

Don't know who that is.

Katie

The dog.

Hal

Okay.

Katie

Fun fact.

Hal

Alright.

Katie

He also played Scooby Doo in. Scooby Doo.

Hal

So the man's got range.

Katie

Including the feature film adaptations like the one with Freddie Prinze Jr.

Hal

Pushing the definition of fun fact a little bit here.

Katie

Making him the third highest grossing actor of all time.

Hal

Well, I take it back. That was genuinely unexpected. I withdraw my sass. How do you store away all of this potentially useless information?

Katie

It's kind of the job.

Hal

Hey, Katie.

Katie

Mm hmm?

Hal

Have you, um, have you heard anything from that girl?

Katie

Which girl?

Hal

The girl with the boyfriend, the sadist.

Katie

Alana?

Hal

Yes.

Katie

Mm hmm.

Hal

Yes, Alana.

Katie

Are you, sorry, are we pretending you don't remember her name after all that, uh

Hal

Farore? Rigmarole? Kerfuffle?

Katie

Sure, after all that kerfuffle you caused over her being named after your ex.

Hal

Must have slipped my mind.

Katie

Right. Nothing yet, but it's only been a week since the show dropped. I'm sure she'll be in touch.

Hal

True.

Katie

What was her real name again? Rachel? Reba?

Hal

Ruby. Uh, something like that. Rudy, maybe.

Katie

No, you were right. It was Ruby. What is it? Not another ex, surely?

Hal

Uh, no. Of course not.

Katie

Uh huh.

Hal

You, uh, you ready?

Katie

Whenever you are.

Hal

Great. Good. Well, let's get started then.

Katie

All right. Mic's live. Three, two,

Hal

Good evening and bienvenue. This is the Late Shift and I am your erstwhile guide to the glorious depths of love, sex, and sensuality. Dr. Good Vibes. With me as always is the ever reliable Nurse Katie Bradley.

Katie

Good evening, Doctor.

Hal

So, draw a bath, light some candles, and let's explore this wondrous world of depravity, debauchery, desire, and devotion together, you and I. Nurse Katie, who is our first patient?

Katie

Up first tonight is Marissa, she her, who has a new boyfriend and a terrible secret.

Hal

Oh, how titillating. Thank you for not burying the lede. Let's begin.

Katie

Marissa, you're on with the doctor.

Hal

Good evening, Marissa. How can I help?

Marissa

Hello there, Doctor.

Hal

Oh, my goodness.

Katie

Is something wrong?

Hal

Oh, uh, no. Not at all. Please, go ahead. You have a

Katie

New boyfriend?

Hal

Yes. Please, tell us all about it.

Marissa

Oh, uh, okay. Of course. Well, I've started seeing this boy who I work with.

Hal

Risky. But, Sometimes unavoidable. What kind of work do you do?

Marissa

Oh, um, textiles. Textile manufacturing and wholesale.

Hal

Oh. Well, believe it or not, I know a little bit about that work, or I used to. A warehouse full of soft silk and linen can be an unexpectedly romantic setting. Sensorial. Begging to be touched.

Marissa

I mean, sure, that's true. But we mostly work in the head office.

Hal

Of course. Forgive me. You were telling us about a boy.

Marissa

He's cute. Young. Younger than me, by a few years, but sweet, charming. Honestly, not my usual type, but very good looking. Just, young.

Hal

How young?

Marissa

He's just turned 22.

Hal

Mm, and you are?

Marissa

39.

Hal

Ah, well, look, that is a large age gap. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. But if you have a lot in common, it's not like it can't work.

Marissa

Exactly. He's very mature for his age, driven, forward minded, and he, I'll be honest, pursued me very aggressively.

Hal

Sounds like a young man who knows what he wants.

Marissa

Very much so.

Hal

And how is it going?

Marissa

Honestly? Incredible. He's attentive, generous, we've been on eight or nine dates, and they've all been just wonderful.

Katie

Aw.

Hal

Love to hear it.

Marissa

He's very old fashioned, you know? Flowers, opening doors, I have no idea where he picked this stuff up.

Katie

Ugh, I'm jealous.

Hal

You sometimes see this with younger men, especially if they've grown up on a diet of romantic movies or literature. They have an ideal of what an adult courtship looks like that, even if it is a little archaic, can be quite refreshing in the age of ad supported, algorithmic, app based qu'es de cours.

Marissa

Refreshing is the word. I'm not sure I've ever been treated so well. I was so apprehensive about letting him take me out, but he kind of wore me down with his sweetness. Not actively, just by existing like he does.

Hal

He sounds like quite the suitor. And I hate to bring the mood down here, Nurse Katie mentioned something about a terrible secret.

Marissa

Yes.

Hal

And were those her words or yours?

Marissa

Mine.

Hal

Oh dear.

Marissa

So he's

Hal

What's the young man's name?

Marissa

Tim.

Hal

Tim.

Marissa

Tim hasn't been with He's

Hal

A virgin.

Marissa

Yes.

Hal

He told you this?

Marissa

Yes, before we even started dating. It just sort of came up at a work event.

Hal

And did this make him more or less appealing in your eyes?

Marissa

I, uh, neither, I guess. But it tracked. I could already tell he was interested in me, and the way he was pursuing me, or more accurately, not pursuing me, suddenly made sense.

Katie

Well, context is everything.

Marissa

Even now, he seems perfectly content taking it slow. We've only kissed, held hands, it's all been very proper.

Hal

You, uh, sound as if you're enjoying it.

Marissa

I am. Really, it's so You said it already. Refreshing.

Hal

And this is your secret terrible?

Katie

Nice.

Hal

Thank you.

Marissa

No, it's not about him. It's about me.

Hal

Please, go on.

Marissa

I've never been married. I don't have any children or anything, but I've Been around, if you catch my meaning, especially when I was his age.

Hal

I, uh, think that I do.

Marissa

We're talking triple figures.

Hal

Oh, okay. Now I do.

Marissa

He hasn't asked about, well, anything in that area, of course. And though he instigated things, romantically speaking, to be honest, he seems very reluctant to initiate anything intimate, any sort of physical escalation. Doctor?

Hal

Yes. Physical escalation. Hardly surprising, considering his age and inexperience.

Marissa

And I don't know whether or not to tell him. He's certainly not the type of person to ask about my body count. But I'm starting to feel like if I let this continue, it's going to come up. And he's so romantically inclined that if it feels like I've hidden it from him, it will break his heart.

Hal

I understand.

Marissa

I keep thinking about the fact that, and I know how this sounds, I lost my virginity before he was born. I've been sexually active longer than he's been alive. It's not like I haven't noticed our age gap, but that makes it feel enormous.

Hal

Marissa, can I tell you what I think?

Marissa

Please, Doctor.

Hal

By any And all, contemporary standards, your young paramore is considered an adult. Fully in control of his faculties, capable of purchasing a home, drinking in a bar, fighting in a foreign war, or participating in all the many and varied rituals of democracy. You, in turn, also look at him and see a fully grown man, correct? Of course. He has passed through most of the usual gates of adulthood.

He has completed his education, obtained gainful employment, I assume moved out from under the watchful eyes of his parents, since I think you would have mentioned him still living at home.

Marissa

Yes, he has his own apartment.

Hal

But, but, there is one gate. Perhaps given an overinflated sense of import that he has not passed. This is not the first time I've said this, but virginity is a fallacy. And if I didn't know any better, I would not be surprised to discover it was invented in the 1920s by the De Beers Company. Along with all the other rituals now held sacred that they invented to sell diamonds. You, uh, you have a beautiful laugh.

Katie

Agreed.

Marissa

Oh, thank you, Doctor.

Hal

You are very welcome. Now, as I was saying, if virginity is not the denouement of adolescence that it is purported to be, Then in the same vein, neither is one's, how did you put it? Body count.

Marissa

Yes.

Hal

When you look back upon your sexual history, do you feel any shame?

Marissa

Well, no, not overall. Maybe about one or two individual, mm, encounters.

Hal

Like any string of experiences, sure. But cast in the pure glow of this perceived innocent, suddenly your very normal history may appear to be something different. And I think that you worry that your altered perception may be one that Tim shares. Not only because of his virginity, but because of the seemingly archaic way that he conducts himself in the entire realm of romance.

A throwback to the time when one's unsullied flower was an item of great value, to be voraciously protected from a corrupt and callous world. Which is, of course, - Katie: absurd. Absurd. Removed from the context of girls being married off at 16 to secure neighbouring duchies. Marissa.

Marissa

Yes.

Hal

Do you like this person? Do you feel for him? Romantically? Sexually?

Marissa

I do. Very much so.

Hal

Are you enjoying this Austenian courtship?

Marissa

Yes, I am. It's a nice change.

Hal

Does it feel disingenuous? An affectation, or the misguided meanderings of a child who read too many romantic novels?

Marissa

No, not at all.

Hal

You may choose to share anything about yourself with a partner at whatever pace you so choose, and that goes for any and all elements of your past, present, or future. You may also choose not to remain with a partner for whom you feel that some part of you may clash irreparably with their values or their needs. But if you want to be sure, if you value this person and your relationship with them, it is better to offer them an opportunity to make that decision rather than making it for them.

Demonstrate that you respect him as an adult with autonomy of his own. Even though he is younger than you, you won't be doing him any favors by cutting him loose without context, or by hiding the truth from him. Perhaps he has not asked because he is terrified of your answer. Perhaps he has not asked because he simply does not care. Or that he knows, even admires, that you are a mature woman who has clearly lived their life up until now. But there is only one way to find out.

After all, the reason for his lack of experience may be precisely the same as for your own wealth. It could simply be that this is how things turned out for you as you both lived your lives to this point. My advice is simply this. Talk to your man. Share with him your misgivings and simply do only that which feels right at the time it feels right to do so. Marissa, does that help at all?

Marissa

Of course, Doctor. Thank you. You've been a huge help.

Hal

Please feel free to come back to us and let us know how things work out.

Marissa

I will. Thanks.

Katie

You're clear. You okay?

Hal

Christ, Katie. A little warning next time. That voice, my God. At least her question was simple enough. I could barely think.

Katie

It's not like you to get all shaken up by a throaty voiced femme fatale. You're supposed to be a professional.

Hal

I don't think anyone could have walked through that. Jesus, when she said physical escalation, my heart nearly stopped.

Katie

Honestly? Same.

Hal

Same.

Katie

Same.

Hal

Same.

Katie

Same.

Hal

Right?

Katie

Honestly? Same.

Hal

Same.

Katie

You think her boyfriend's gonna be okay?

Hal

I think he'll never be the same. Lucky bastard.

Katie

You ever Dated someone younger than you?

Hal

No. Definitely not that much younger.

Katie

Oh yeah?

Hal

Yeah. I learned my lesson about that early on. That voice though.

Katie

Alright, alright. Well, take five and try to recover. I'll get the pre records queued up.

Hal

Yeah, thank you. Do you, uh, Do you think if I speak enough French on the next call, they'll get me a new chair, nurse Katie?

Katie

Couldn't hurt.

Hal

Hi,

Katie

Call's ready? I'm just gonna grab a drink. Did you want something?

Hal

Oh, uh, yes please. That'd be great.

Katie

Easy. No worries. Tell me about Ruby.

Hal

What?

Katie

Ruby.

Hal

I don't, um, who?

Katie

Oh, uh, sorry. I meant Alana, the girl who called.

Hal

Oh, why

Katie

Hal? We've been doing this for nearly four years.

Hal

Okay.

Katie

In all that time, you've told hundreds of callers to get back to us and tell us about how things have worked out.

Hal

Right.

Katie

And not once have you checked with me if anyone actually called back. So is it about Ruby? Or is it about Alana? Hal, you look sick.

Hal

I, I told you what happened with Alana. My Alana.

Katie

Okay, so if you're really worried about this girl, I can try to track her down. I've got a bunch of information, 10 minutes with Google and I'll know everything there is to know about Ruby Amal.

Hal

No, no, that you don't, you don't need to do that.

Katie

Well then what is it?

Hal

It, it is about Alana. It is Al... my ex. I didn't tell you everything that happened.

Katie

Well, now I'm intrigued.

Hal

Why are you like this?

Katie

Can't help it. It's kind of the job

Hal

Seems like I'm hearing that a lot today. I'll tell you. Okay, I will. But can we just get through the show first? We can get a drink after. I'll spill the whole story.

Katie

Max's?

Hal

Oh, come on.

Katie

Please. They've got the rooftop now. You can smoke.

Hal

Fine. But if I have to get a cab back from downtown, I'm only buying the first round.

Katie

Deal. I'll get you tea.

Hal

Fuck.

Katie

Uh, thanks.

Hal

So, no kid tonight?

Katie

He's with my mum. Aren't you worried about losing your voice?

Hal

How do you think I got this voice?

Katie

Maybe you can claim them back on tax.

Hal

Aye. Had that idea kiboshed a few years back. My guy is about the most creative accountant going and even he wouldn't try it apparently.

Katie

So.

Hal

So. Can I get one drink down first?

Katie

Sure.

Hal

Thank you. Stop staring at me.

Katie

It's just, I've got to get home at some point.

Hal

Fine. Fine. What do you want to know?

Katie

Everything.

Hal

Everything. Why?

Katie

We're friends, right? You'd call us friends?

Hal

Sure.

Katie

And how long have we known each other?

Hal

I mean, ever since the show started, so...

Katie

four years, Hal. Four years.

Hal

Right, four years, yes, you said. And?

Katie

And I don't know anything about you that hasn't been said into a hot microphone. I'm excited that I finally get to know something about the enigmatic Dr. Goodvibes.

Hal

Come on, I'm not that bad.

Katie

Hal, it took me three years to find out when your birthday was, and only because I went to HR and got them to dig it out of your file. Don't smile, I'm sure the Man of Mystery shtick has served you well in the past, but it loses its charm quickly. Four years is well past the sell by date.

Hal

Fine. So, everything?

Katie

Everything.

Hal

That doesn't really narrow it down, and it's kind of a long story.

Katie

Well, mum's still sprightly. I've got time.

Hal

When I said that Alana, Alana's, the Alana who called story was familiar, I kind of understated the similarities.

Katie

How understated?

Hal

So for a moment it might actually be her torturing me.

Katie

Why?

Hal

Because that story she told, that could have been about me and my Alana. That could have been us, word for word.

Katie

What, the small town baby kinkster who makes her feel like he might actually Oh.

Hal

Yeah. Exactly that.

Katie

How old are you in the story? I don't know, it was

Hal

Late 15 through early 17.

Katie

Ouch.

Hal

Formative years.

Katie

You really thought it might be her? Did it sound like her at all?

Hal

God knows. It's been 15 years since I've heard her voice.

Katie

Okay, but it wasn't her. It was some girl named Ruby.

Hal

Yeah. Yeah, I know it was some girl named Ruby. I know it's not likely or even possible that it's her. It could all just be a coincidence. But in fairness, it didn't have to be. I've spent years doling out advice to people, under the pretense that I know better than they do. I guess I wasn't ready to be reminded of a time when I was ignorant, harmful, even, a danger to myself and others. But even without that, even if it was a total coincidence, the specifics were uncanny. I I know.

But there is coincidence and there's coincidence. And Either way, I need to know if it's her. I need to find out if it's not her. I need to

Katie

You really think it's her?

Hal

No, I

Katie

Hal?

Hal

No. I know it's not likely. Not even possible.

Katie

There's no way this Ruby is actually Alana?

Hal

No, Katie. There is no chance of that.

Katie

You seem pretty certain.

Hal

I am. But, until we hear from her again, I'm not going to be able to stop thinking about it.

Katie

Hal, there's got to be something more than just a similar story. What is it that's got you so convinced that this girl's come back to haunt you?

Hal

No, uh, nothing. That's it.

Katie

All right. So what are you gonna do? Could you call her, her family? Surely you have someone on social media who knows her.

Hal

Probably not. I didn't really keep in touch with anyone. And you know I don't do social media beyond the network mandated stuff.

Katie

I assumed, but Binghamton is a small town, right? Surely someone's gotta know what happened to her. Your parents or someone? What?

Hal

Who told you I was from Binghamton?

Katie

You did! I said small town baby kingster and you said exactly and you mentioned when you were talking to that cougar that you used to know a lot about textile manufacturing, silk specifically. Plus I already knew what state you're from, that's Binghamton.

Hal

So I did. Impressive. Really impressive.

Katie

Well, it's kind of the job.

Hal

Yeah, so you keep saying. You want another drink?

Katie

Sure, let's do it. Next time on Dr. Good Vibes. You ready?

Hal

Honestly? No, not really. I thought we were done for the week. I wasn't even gonna come in today.

Katie

Hal?

Hal

Katie, I'm serious. I've really gotta

Katie

No, hal. Wait.

Hal

What?

Katie

I just got an email. From Alana.

Hal

What's going on? She came back?

Katie

She did. Yes.

Hal

We are solving the mystery. Alana, how are you?

Alana

I'm good, Doctor. Um, thank you for taking my call.

Hal

Dr. Good Vibes is a Neon Diner production. Written, produced, and directed by Richard P. Doyle. Editing and sound design by Ramon Samson. It features the vocal talents of Richard P. Doyle, Rachel Slee, Emily Teed. Full credits can be found in the show notes. Dr. Good Vibes is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So please subscribe to ensure you never miss an episode.

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