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Yes it is, and it is my privilege, my honor to be with you today because long ago I answered my chosen calling and talent, which is all about giving help and assistance to people who are not feeling well, are sick, or are infirm, or those people who don't want to be.
Sick or infirm. It's awesome.
It's fabulous to participate in a radio show forum where sick people tune in to get healthy naturally and become their own best doctors most of the time. And will people tune in to stay that way. That's what it's all about. So welcome, Welcome to this hour of the Doctor Bob Martin Show. I'm Doctor Bob and I want you to become your own best doctor most of the time.
And you can do that with gaining knowledge and information about your own health and taking better care of yourself when applicable, when necessary, and it's necessary all the time. Coming up a little bit later in the hour, we have this week's installments of the Health Alternative of the Week, the Health Outrage of the Week.
We've got a product recall to tell.
You about you definitely don't want to miss out on that, and the Health Mystery of the Week. All that straight ahead, and then we're going to try to take more phone calls and questions on the topic of health. But we begin this hour with a very important topic and I think everybody can relate to, and that is pain. Pain is a four letter word that nobody wants. However, our creator wanted us to have. It's our alarm system. Pain
is our best friend. And I know that sounds bad, especially if you're in pain right now and you don't want to be because it's uncomfortable and it messes with your quality of life, but it is important.
It is an idiot light, if you will.
Just like on your automobile dash, the electronics are saying, hey, you're low and oil, get into the garage and get it fixed, or blow up the engine, or you're low in water, or your tire is low. You may blow a tire at high speed. You don't want that, so you get the alarm. That's a blessing in disguise, and pain is no different than that. But you got to find out why the pain is there. And unfortunately, one in three Americans are living in chronic pain. That is
so sad, and much of it is not necessary. One of the first things I remind reminded my patients of with respect to pain is that pain is a biological process that is critical to life. Nobody wants pain, unless you consider yourself a massacrest, of course, but pain protects our bodies from injury. And by reminding us that tissue is damaged or being damaged or needs to be protected. It also pain aids in the repairing process to injuries that we acquire, and we do have injuries throughout our lives.
It's hard to think of pain as your friend, but it can have an important life saving purpose.
It's true.
Our pain sensory system is designed for serveval. Thus, the goal of pain, the pain system that we humans experience, is to get us out of harm's way by ramping up the intensity and unpleasantness of the pain signal, the sensation of pain.
If we didn't have.
It, we would absolutely have early dem eyes.
We would just deteriorate.
Unfortunately, pharmaceutical companies who make painkilling drugs want you to believe that you have pain, you are deficient in a drug that they sell. That's what they want you to believe. They want you to believe that the answer to all pain, all the time is to take their nostrums, their drugs and stay on them for a lifetime.
Well, I'm here to.
Tell you, and other doctors will tell you if they're honest, that painkillers are not supposed to be taken on a regular, ongoing basis unless there's extraordinary circumstances, which sometimes there are. But painkillers, like many drugs, really are designed to be a bridge, a short bridge to helping your body to sleep and rest and not be so stressed and not be so uncomfortable until your body can manage to clean up up whatever the damage and injury was that caused
the pain. Not to completely swallow drugs every single day for the rest of your life, because these drugs are very, very harmful when taken long term. I don't get me wrong. Painkillers are important when they're used judiciously for acute pain, for such things as let's say, you know, a toothache, fractured bone, surgical procedures, somebody's got a severe migraine and they bring on the drugs. I get it, And for
that they can be miracles. Really, so somebody can sleep if they're something's banging away with pain.
No good.
But chronic ingestion of painkillers is a recipe to disaster on many levels. And so when we're having pain that is chronic that keeps going, we should ask the question, why am I in pain this long? And what can I do to resolve it so that I don't have to stay on these painkillers, and most people want that. Most people don't want to take painkillers, but they're forced into it because the reason for their pain is not
being addressed. And many times that reason could be addressed and could be managed and solved the problem, therefore not needing to give or take painkillers. Pain manifests in many ways, and a recent survey has revealed that almost a third of Americans are experiencing persistent pain ongoing paint and according to the poll, three out of ten Americans report not having a single pain free day in over a month.
How sad is that, with twenty eight percent indicating they endure pain some form of pain on a daily basis. I cannot even rely to that, but I know it happens, and it's sad. A recent survey of two thousand Americans found that nearly half experienced chronic pain, regardless of whether the pain is medically diagnosed or not. Over a quarter of those dealing with chronic pain have endured it for get this thirteen years or longer. I can't even imagine
those poor people. The typical American starts experiencing discomfort at the age of thirty seven. Predominantly individuals reported experiencing pain in their legs thirty nine percent, in their neck twenty
nine percent, their shoulders twenty nine percent. Others highlighted their back, and usually that's the lower back as the primary daily challenge when it comes to pain or experiencing pain on average when waking when waking up, a lot of people experience pain upon getting up just in the morning, just the sheer activ it and Americans require an additional seven minutes to prepare themselves in the morning because they're in pain.
Seeking relief for chronic pain, respondents primarily consult healthcare professionals seventy five percent, with nearly half resorting to simply looking up their symptoms with doctor Google, doing a Google search, doing a search engine, and they're looking at their symptoms forty eight percent of the time.
So there is just a.
Tremendous amount of suffering that goes on here in the US with people who are in pain, and I dare say a lot of them are in pain unnecessarily and their problems have just not been resolved. The chronic pain
caused respondence to feel dissatisfied with their lives. Forty three percent said they were not feeling entirely themselves, thirty percent had increased fatigue, twenty eight percent had consistent sleep disturbances due to their pain, and twenty seven percent had to give up on beloved activities that they love to do and can't do because of pain, which messes you up and destroys your quality of life.
We've got to do something about it. We've got to get into this.
We've got to find ways to help people in pain and not just keep feeding them drugs to cover it up or mask the problem.
Getting to the causes, we're going to talk about that.
Don't go anywhere, but first we'll have the health Alternative of the Week that's coming up. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martinshell.
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And I welcome you or welcome you back to this hour of the Doctor Bob Martson Show.
All right, we will get back to.
The conversation that I started out talking about this hour, about the fact that nearly one out of three Americans are living in chronic pain and the why behind that and what to do potentially about it besides taking risky pharmaceutical drugs like painkillers.
You know, God.
Blessed that we have them, that they were invented so that when we're in pain we can at least get some respists, some degree of relief.
But man, they are so overused.
And I'll address that further as we go through this hour, But first I want to provide for you this week's installment of the Health Alternative of the Week.
All right, the Health Alternative of the Week. Here we go.
For the love of organic let us, that's the title of it. Did you know that in August twenty fifteen was the first time a vegetable was successfully grown in outer space and enjoyed by NASA astronauts on the International Space Station. It's true, twenty fifteen, that's when it happened.
Amazing researchers analyzed the red Romaine lettuce crops from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen and determined that let us grown in space is not only safe for astronauts to eat, it's also free of disease causing microbes and as nutritious as lettuce grown on Earth. Since then, a multitude of greens has been grown on.
The space station.
It's no longer it's it's no wonder astronauts chose to grow lettuce in space. There's just something face it special, something about a salad that makes your body come alive with nourishment. I mean, if I'm missing salad more than a day, I'm.
Going, where's my salad. Let's get to the salad.
I My body knows and your probably does do innately, that we need more live food, hopefully organic whenever possible, and salads do the trick. Lettuce is rich in vitamins A, vitamin C, vitamin K, folet acid, and minerals such as iron and magnesium. However, only only organic lettuce boasts all of these benefits and contains even higher amounts of vitamin C than conventional pesticide laden lettuce or vegetables you're going
to find in the prototypical grocery store. Now, when you have lettuce like organic lettuce in your diet, fresh and drizzled with extra virgin olive oil, this homegrown lettuce gives astronauts a dose of much needed vitamins and minerals while.
Orbiting the Earth.
To sort of fight against free radical formation which is happening in space. With a nutrient dense profile. Lettuce, and I'm not talking about iceberg lettuce. Avoid that there's no nutrition there. I'm not talking about iceberg lettuce. I'm talking about romaine lettuce and all kinds of different lettuces. Stay away from head lettuce or iceberg lettuce. It is nutrition devoid. That's why it's white. That's why you can see through it. You want green, baby and dark rich colors. That's where
all the phito nutrients are. That's where all the antioxidants are, That's where all the health and well being are. That's the healthier alternative for you. That's why we're calling it the health alternative of the week. Love of organic lettuce. You can incorporate these into your diet. Whether we're on Earth, earthbound or space bound, it doesn't matter. Just be sure
to make them organic whenever possible. You'll get more bang for the buck romaine, green red leaf, butter arugula, but not iceberg.
Well. Iceberg is the last choice. If you have to have some.
There are many crisp and delicious varieties to bite into, find the one you like and exploit it. Remember my words. The darker colored lettuces contain higher concentrations of nutrients, particularly antioxidants. You want the darkest lettuce you can find, and the more you eat of that, the healthier you're going to be. Choose organic lettuce too, of course, for any variety of leavy greens to get the most out of every bite.
Conveniently grown lettuces and conventionally grown lettuces, I should say, conventionally grown lettuces are sprayed with a variety of toxic pesticides, herbicides, and fungicides. You don't want to feed that to yourself or your family, because there's been many articles written about how these are cancer producing long term. Oh, they won't knock you down the day you woof down some lettuce that is, you know, incorporated with insecticides and herbicides and fungicides.
And if you think you're washing them off when you're at home and you've got in the kitchen and you've got the faucet on and you're washing, you can't wash that stuff off. It is sprayed on it as it's growing, and it's incorporated into the lettuce. You can't wash it off. Go for organic whenever possible, grow it in your own yard.
That way, you know what you're getting right. Well, a recent study found that regular lettuce absorbs twenty percent of the toxic spray as in toxic insecticides, herbicides, and fungicides. Who wants raid on their lettuce anyway? It sounds gross what a pesticide is absorbed into the plant. This means you can't wash it off. It's true. Find an array of fresh, delicious organic lettuces at natural grocery stores nationwide. Choosing organic ensures a healthier oil for generations to come
and a healthier you. And you are worth it, Yes,
you're worth it. And you know you might walk into a grocery, you know, a grocery store of any sort that sells organic foods and organic produce, and to the naked eye, it may not look as healthy because sometimes, you know, those vegetables and the fruits that you see in the prototypical grocery store, they've got plasticizors and all kinds of agents on them to make them look shiny, to make them pleat eye candy to you, and so that when you see them, you go, oh, look at that.
I can almost see my face in that bell pepper it's like a mirror image. Well, it's coated with it's coated with plastic. Why would you want to ingest that? And you can't peel it off. So get the organic whenever and wherever possible. This week's Health Alt Alternative of the Week for the love of organic lettuce. And if you're fortunate enough to find an organic provider of foods in your area, like natural grocer stores, you're in good shape.
If you're not, just start asking around. And if you can't grow in your own backyard, you can certainly supplement it in powder form. You can you can supplement it in powder form by finding these powdered, freeze dried vegetables in grocery stores as supplements or in health food stores as supplements, and you simply take a scoop out of there and you put it into the smoothie or your favorite drink, whether it's a concentrated green drink or a
concentrated red drink. We did an hour on that with doctor Tony O'Donnell the very first hour of today's show, And if you didn't get a chance to hear that, go back into the podcast library and listen to it. You'll love it. We covered a lot of ground, so yes, eat, get more veggies. We need more veggies because they're healthy for us and they provide the nutrition we need to repair ourselves and to reduce our risk of diseases chronically
going forward into the future. But you want to make sure they're pure and safe for yourself and your family. And if you can't find a natural grocery store nearest too, you find out where they're at naturalgrocers dot com, natural grocers dot com. This week's health alternative of the week for the love of organic. Let us all right when we come back, we've got the health outrage of the week, and then we're going to get back to the conversation about pain and how to deal with it and how
to get out of it. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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She's like, you don't believe it. Come on each time for the health outrage because it's nothing.
But.
It is outrageous. And this is a pet peeve of mine.
It has been for well since my first child was born. Many many decades ago, and I saw what the typical childbirth obstetrical practice in the United States was all about, and it was horrifying. Now, granted, there are many excellent OBGYN doctors that practice sincerely ethically and are into what they're doing for the benefit of their patients, but there are a percentage of them that I just wonder.
How they're able to roll and how they're able.
To stay in practice because they've got an agenda going on. Childbirth hospital errors paralyze a young woman from the waist down after nurses left her legs in nerve crushing position for seven hours. I need to tell you about this story. For most new mothers and fathers, the forty eight hours of their newborn baby's life is pure magical. It sure was for me with my six children, and I virtually well. My wife wouldn't give me credit for delivering them. She says, Honey,
you caught them. I delivered them. You caught our babies. Don't ever take credit for delivering them. I delivered them, and I give her credit for them.
My sweet wife.
Six children later, and I was so happy to be involved in four out of six of them. I was with all of them all of them, of course, but the first one I was completely ignorant about because I was in college at the time. But it worked out, but I saw it unfolding going in the wrong direction. But in this case, this young lady I'm talking about here who had her legs nerve crushing position for seven hours and paralyzed her name Elizabeth Waggott, thirty six years
of age. Then was also the time when she was told she was facing a lifetime of paralysis following a catastrophic childbirth injury that she was unaware had even happened at the time. Missus Waggott gave birth to her daughter, Darcy, following a seventy two hour labor process. When it was to to get up and go to the bathroom, she realized she couldn't move everything from her pelvis down felt dead. Elizabeth, an artist who lives in Texas, received an epidural injection.
That's where things start to go wrong. EPI dural injection. And oh, yes, doctors push them, nurses push them, everybody pushes them. And yes, sometimes they can come in handy because some women do benefit and need epidural injections, but most do not. But they get pushed hard and heavy, and that's where the disaster of birth can start. Well, the bad birth process, I should say, starts to unravel
more than twenty four hours earlier. This Elizabeth Wagott had a epidural injection, but doctor said it's numbing effect should have worn off by now. By the way, about seventy seventy five percent of hospital bursts use epidural injections. A steroid drug is injected into the spine of a woman in labor to relieve pain, and, as I said, sometimes necessary, but I believe in many other experts believe they're pushed too much. Why Because it's easy for doctors and easier
for nurses, and it's profitable for everybody involved. A neurologist visited Elizabeth Waggett's bedside and believed she'd likely suffered nerve damage as a result of her prolonged stretch and her pelvis, and if the feeling hadn't returned yet, there was a chance it would never she was told. She said, my world collapsed. She told an investigative reporter. I was thinking, just like why me, Why has this.
Happened to me?
I felt like a failure because I had a new baby, and I could get up to go to her.
I wasn't supposed to be like that. Close quote.
Two weeks later, test showed her ssiatic nerve, the largest nerve in the body that runs down the spine to the back of the legs, had sustained severe damage that was unlikely to repair. It marked the beginning of a two and a half year nightmare, which saw this new mother confined to a wheelchair for seven months, unable to get up and tend to herself, let alone her baby.
Missus Wagg had.
Said, and I quote, my husband had to give up his job to take care of me full time. Take me to the toilet, help me into the shower, feed my I couldn't feed myself as well as looking after my baby. Most days, she said, I couldn't move from the bed, And all the time I was thinking of how much of a failure I was. I thought my daughter would be better off without me.
How sad is that?
And I remember wishing someone would put me out of my misery her words, ladies and gentlemen close quote. Miraculously, and against all odds, she did, seven months later regain the feeling in her lower extremities, but it came at with a cost.
She said. If someone would have said, do you.
Know what it's like to have your legs chopped off, I'd say yes, because that's.
What nerve pain feels like. Close quote. For the better part of a.
Year, she slept a little more than thirty minutes a night, waking up with these jolts of pain. Today, she relies on daily painkillers and weekly physical therapy and has been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder PTSD as a result of her post As a result of her birth and post birth experience, missus Waggant says, it still feels like I have two limbs attached to my body rather than my legs. Well, long story short of this, in this health outrage is way too many women in the United
States get into this. They start with these injections and then they put them in stirrups and they know they spread them out as fast and they immobilize them in the bed so they can't move around, so they can't get the pelvis moving and the baby moving down the track. They move against gravity where their legs up in the air.
Benefits versus risk, Folks, You've got to get a good obstetrician who is honest, hardworking, and there are many of those, but unfortunately, there is a certain contingency of obgyns out there who are highly risky people to be around that are looking at profitability and convenience over your good health. Buyer beware, that's the health outrage when it comes to obstetrical practices in America.
Stay tuned. I'm doctor Bob Martin number Well.
Hopefully natural medicine whenever and wherever possible. That could be homeopathic medicine, it could be.
Just tincture of time.
It could be the healing touch of a provider who provides actually touching their patients. Could be a gosh, a nature pathic physician, a homeopathic physician, a chiropractic physician, a massage therapist, physical therapist, social work or anything. And I
welcome you back to the program. We started out the hour talking about how nearly one out of three Americans are living in chronic pain, and the question becomes why when there's a lot of help to be delivered that these persons, these people who are in chronic pain don't know about people have talked them out of ever ever having the confidence to know that they may be able to get out of pain if somebody can just find the reason for their pain, and so they continue to
take drugs. These painkilling drugs were really never designed to be taken long term. We're glad to have them when you have an acute injury. Of course, when you have a fall or an accident or broken bone or a toothache or something like that, yes, bring on the drugs or some other exciting experience. But most of the time these drugs were designed to be a bridge, give you a chance to just rest and recover, and then get off of them as soon as possible because they are toxic.
They are damaging to your body. Americans are willing to sacrifice and spend extraordinary amounts of money to be pain free. I get it to be pain free. Those living in chronic pain have dedicated to lives their willingness to sacrifice some of their favorite indulgences.
Like if you were to ask somebody who's in.
Chronic pain, would you be willing to give up coffee just to get out of pain? And said yeah, twenty five percent of them said yes. Would you be willing to give up social media? Twenty two percent said yes. No more social.
Media, just get me out of pain, and.
Even certain food products like cheese. Eighteen percent of them said yes, I'd be willing to give up cheese in my diet if I could just get out of pain. Well, Americans are also prepared to spend get this. On average, somebody who's in pain is prepared to spend one thousand, eight hundred dollars for a diagnosis to identify the cause of their pain, the cause of their extreme discomfort. That's how much it's worth to them. If somebody could just diagnose my problem, I would be willing to pay them
eight hundred dollars. Meanwhile, those living in chronic pain are managing their daily discomfort in a variety of ways, including using heating pads thirty nine percent, regularly exercising, trying to get rid of their pain thirty three percent, and trying to trying various supplements twenty five percent. And I guess that's nutritional supplements or herbs. For those trying supplements, the most popular ones they are using are specifically targeted for pain,
including iron, which I can understand. Iron should not be a supplement that should be given for pain. By the way, I do not recommend that, but some people that are in pain. Let's say people who have arthritis do really well on EPA omega three oils like fish oil. Seventeen percent of those people are taking that and herbs. Certain herbs like turmeric also known as curry, is more effective, ladies and gentlemen, than thaile andol in ibuprofen at easing
painful arthritis and injuries. It's true, and despite the challenges with finding solutions to pain, eighty percent of respondents in large surveys said they are continuing to seek solutions, while seventy eight percent are indicating their preference for natural solutions over surgical intervention. A significant hurdle in tackling and managing
chronic pain lies in its subjective nature. Let's face it, variations in how individuals are different in different demographic groups perceive and experience pain make it challenging for healthcare professionals
to accurately diagnose and treat it. This subjectivity can breed skepticism and misunderstandings regarding the severity of a person's pain, compounding feelings of anxiety and isolation associated with chronic pain because some people honestly think somebody else is faking their pain if they have it, because they can't relate to
it because they're not the ones in pain. And according to a study published in the journal of the American Medical Association Network Open, the healthcare expenses associated with chronic pain in the United States are estimated ready for this are estimated to reach as high as six hundred and thirty five billion dollars on an annual basis six hundred and thirty five billion dollars in pain management in the United States on a daily basis, I mean on a
yearly basis. Studies have often suggested that public health officials, policy makers, and healthcare providers must prioritize the development of policies and programs aimed at addressing chronic pain. Well, look, if somebody's in chronic pain, they need choices, they need options. They need to know how to take care of themselves using rest and ice and topicals like themSo and arnica, embracing and maybe losing some weight.
They need to.
Also access doctors who help people in pain, like chiropractors, acupuncturists, massage therapists, people who do yoga tai chi. How about soft wave therapy? Have you tried that? How about interferential therapy or diathermy, how about hyperbaric oxygen therapy or red light therapy.
These are all things that can help pain.
Naturally drug free or turmeric, ginger, magnesium, vitamin C, try some meditation, the tincture of time. There's so many ways to help yourself out. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martinshell.
Welcome Queek even.
Now and I welcome you back or welcome you to the final segment of the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
But before we before we get to the health.
Mystery, I just wanted to finish up just say one last thing about chronic pain.
If you're in chronic pain and you.
Want to change up your diet a little bit to an anti inflammatory diet and eat certain foods that have anti inflammatory properties, you may do so. You may be asking, what are those foods, Doctor Bob.
Well, here they are.
I'm going to give them off quickly, and if you miss this, you can play it back in the podcast library if you want. Here we go blackberries, broccoli, avocados, onions, blueberries, tomatoes, ginger, salmon, pineapples, garlic, walnuts, Pecaan's almonds, Macedamian nuts, mushrooms, especially medicinal mushrooms, green tea, basically all fresh fruits and all vegetables organic, whatever possible. So there's a great list of foods you can start on to reduce inflammatory load in your body and maybe
reduce your pain levels. All right, it's time now, ladies and gentlemen, for the health mystery of the week. Oh yeah, Bats could hold a secret to long life and other health news you may have missed. A protein found in bats could have therapeutic potential for humans.
Study says that bats could.
Hold the key to fighting inflammatory diseases and aging. In a study published, researchers identified a protein carried by bats that could explain their long lives and imper perviousness to certain viruses with possible therapeutic potential for humans. Bats have exceptionally long lifespans for small mammals, with some surviving as long as forty years, and they can live with viruses that would otherwise be harmful to humans, such as sars
and ebola and zica. A team of scientists in Singapore said this is thanks to a modified version of a protein called bat as C two, which suppresses the inflammatory response in bats when researchers genetically modified mice to carry the protein. The mice demonstrated the same inflammatory defenses as bats. Human cells tested in a lab setting became more resilient
too when they were exposed to this bat protein. A doctor Wang, who led the study said this as C two protein could hold the key to longevity and reduced mortality from viruses in humans as well. And he goes on to say, and I quote it may not be the only factor, as biology is never as simple one molecule or one pathway, but the overall dampening of inflammation most likely plays a role in health, aging, healthy aging in bats.
That's what the good doctor said, doctor Wang.
So as mysterious as it sounds, we are learning from studying a protein in bats that there may be down the road some therapeuticity in humans. And I know a lot of people are going, oh, bats are just such a gross animal.
I would never be well.
Hey, stay open minded, live long, and prosper.
As as the saying goes spot that is all right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you. It's the doctor Bob Martinjell