We've just coming off of the BT Awards, right, and some folks were looking flawless. Yes, east Ray always looks good, not always always. You know, they're a called Gina Regina, Regina Hall. Is she aging no backwards Benjamin? But yes, Forrell, that's somebody who I want to by God. Forrell, Pharrell is sixty thousand years old, okay, oldest time. And that man looks like he has a new fresh layer skin every day. Yep. Also side note, we still haven't seen
those triplets show us the babies. But yeah, Forrell, I feel like Will Smith has really good skin. Jada has really good Skada has very good skin. You know who else has very good skin? Gabrielle Union? Yes, oh, Gabrielle Union is without flaw on that face. She's showing us the workout routine. Why won't she show us her skincare drop the skincare routine, Gabby? You know who else? I like to see who? Tracey Yell is ross she but she posts a lot. Yeah, okay, So she was jade rolling.
I was like, okay, well, now I gotta purchase the jade roller. She was doing this other one that looked like it had like spokes in it, and she was rolling on her face. I was like, well, now I have to go get that. She always has a face mask on, she's always doing like some massages. I just do whatever she's doing. But it don't it don't turn out the same. You do not use it because my products ain't right. Sometimes I feel like it's the products.
And I used to really be into the makeup and I realized, hey, that makeup is no good of that skin underneath there is not right. I'm t T and I'm Zachiah and from Spotify Studios. This is Dope Labs. So today we're talking about skin and we're covering all things skin. Skin that's too dry, skin that's probably too oily, skin that is loose and hanging down some Yeah, there's that. How skin you're trying to tighten up, skin, you want to plump, skin, you want to rejuvenate, Yeah, how to
protect it? How do if you got skin that's good, how do you keep just that skin? How do you keep that skin intact? Not just on your face, on your arms and legs too. Because some of y'all not washing them. We heard about it, and this isn't an episode just for women. This episode is for everybody. Contrary to probably believe, skincare is something that's important to all of us. Don't think just because you have a beard
that's enough. It's not. It's not. So what do you put on your face to try and achieve a glove? I have a whole body routine, okay, and some of this stuff. I know you know how wild it is because you've been with me from the Yes, from the inception.
Yes.
When I first was like, we can make body scrub with the coffee ground from the kitchen. Yeah, because I had some hyper pigmentation on my legs and the kid. I was like, this stuff ain't never gonna go away, and the kid said, oh, yes, it will come into the kitchen. Friend and she made a whole mason jar full of it was like coffee grounds, coconut oil, some other sof like essentral olsche. The show notes she's gonna drop the recipe. I'm gonna cook you' all up. And
I was like, Okay, this is my friend's stuff. I'm gonna try it. And so every night I would use this coffee scrub on my legs. It was so good, It was so good. It was probably one of the best body scrubs I have ever owned in my life, and it was free. I got it from my friend. And let me tell you something, that hyperpigmentation I had
on my legs gone scrub it away, it away. I don't even really understand how that works, because I felt like I was doing all the right things and then all of a sudden, Takia shows up with this, this magical jar of elixir. Yeah, it changed my life. And I'd like to just point out, you know, this may feel similar to another story you've heard about t t
giving me instructions on my home. Okay, well it is different, okay to know, but okay, so she's talking about how she how she made that banana bread in her in her hair, and so if you haven't heard the story, go back to Lab two Edges Snatched and you will hear the banana breadhead story. But what I also want to note again is that I just mentioned it in passing. I didn't tell her to go do it. I didn't say, oh, this would be so good for you. I said this is what I heard. I hear a lot of things,
and I was just telling her what I had heard. Yeah, it's on me, really got to evaluate your sources, you know, too, trusting to trusting You can trust me, No I can. So I think you know, I'm going on vacation in a couple of weeks, and I feel like I haven't been on a vacation that is like not working, not doing some type of something related to work, in a
really long time. Yeah, that's very true. And so I'm ready to but before I can unplug, I need to get some glow first, And so started with my face. I have been doing these using this face wash that has it's supposed to be an exfoliating face wash, but it doesn't have any grains or gristle or whatever it is happening. That's not like a physical exfoliant. Yeah, it's a chemical face wash. And so I'm trying to be careful because when you do that stuff, you know, it
makes your sensitive to the sun. So then I'm like, okay, now I got up my my SPF and put on some sunscreen because I'm ount in the sun more. And you put me onto some sunscreen so that I don't look like cass for the ghost, right, Because that's what you don't realize, well that a lot of people don't realize, is that white cast that that sunscreen puts on you, fifty shades of gray? It makes it makes black people
look crazy. Yes, and we want to be protected from the sun too, and we always have to sacrifice looking like our regular selves and then we look like we're cast get ready, Yes, and when we have that yeah, when we have that sunscreen on. So there's a sunscreen that is called Black Girl's Sunscreen that is made by a black woman and it is so sheer and it is so moisturizing, so that I swear by it. That's
what I use over my whole body. Yes, So doing that exfoliating, getting all that winter skin off, washing my troubles away, and then putting on SPF and then you know, I'm not gonna take you'll all into the serums and moisturizers. But if you've been following me on Instagram, you've seen me do a face mask routine. And then for the body, you gotta have a whole body scrub and you really got to hit those elbows and knees. Those are tough areas.
I know you feel the dead skin is not like the other skin, so you need to do something different. I have one of those exfoliating sheets. I'll do a scrub and then come back with a sheet. It's like coarse it's like coarse sandpaper. And then fine, right, I'm coming back to really smooth out those those patches exactly. And I'm the same way. So I instead of a sheet, I have a body brush. So I have one for pre shower. So I do a dry scrub of my body drybrush to just get like all the dead skin up.
Then I shower, and then while I'm in the shower, I have another softer brush that I put soap on, and I use that again all over my body to really get all that dead skin off. Yes, and in the age of not taking a shower, not scrubbing your legs, it's important to really you know, people have been talking about this thing, and so I think we really need to. Chosa said, she shaves her legs and that's washing her legs. I ain't washing it, No, that's not but I'm like dirty, dirty,
and what about your ankle's boot? Like, so I think you gotta think about that. My God, I believe in scrubbing all of those areas. And then I have like a pumming stone even for scrubbing under my nails. I have a little brush at my sink in my house to just really but you gotta get that stuff out from mother there. Yeah, under my nails. I have a whole meal under my nails right now. So I'm gonna get you a brush. Don't worry, by a friend, thank you. So this episode is gon to be a little bit
different and a whole lot of fun. Yes, so our guest for today is not a scientist, but she is an expert. Yes. The authority, the absolute authority, So everything she says, take it as bible. Yeah, so we have the authority on all things skincare, so we're gonna handle the science T T. I always go to you whenever there is anything listed in my skincare and I'm like,
does this really work? It says nanoparticles. Is that true? Yeah, So I will be covering everything that has to do with the nano materials that are that is in skincare and some of the chemistry and Zakia. I always go to you if it's if it has anything to do with something that has a cell, which is all skin. Yeah, I'm asking Zekiah because I'm like, I don't know how this works. It's saying that it's gonna renew my skin.
Is that possible? Let's get to it. Let's jump into the recitation, all right, So we're gonna start off with all things skincare. You gotta understand skin first. Most of you have skin, okay, and so your skin is made of three major layers. There's the epidermis, which is the top layer that's exposed to the air and everything else. Beneath the epidermist is the dermis or what you'll hear people call the dermal layer. And then underneath that is
subcutaneous fat. So the epidermis is really a thin layer. It's that top layer, and then the dermist is the second layer under that, and it's a lot thicker, and that's where like your hair follicles and sweat glands are. You might remember us talking about that in Lap two as well. And then underneath the dermist is the subcutaneous fat. And actually in the subcutaneous fat layer, it has connective tissues that keeps your dermis like, so it keeps the
skin that we see attached to your muscles and bones. Underneath, you lose that fat and that's when you start to get droopy. Droopy. I was like, snoopy, that's not right. You get your skin looking droopy and saggy. So one important thing that is a part of your skin is collagen and it's found in all three of them those layers that Zakia was talking about. And collagen is the most abundant protein in your whole entire body, and it plays a major role in your skin, your muscles, your ligaments,
and tendon Collagen fibers they give support. So collagen is one of those major support proteins. But also elastin. So people often talk about skin elasticity to give your skin flexibility and strength. So collagen and elastin are two kind of major components of keeping that skin looking healthy. So let's talk about what we have questions about. I want to know what are the chemicals that are in some of these products and are they truly beneficial? Yeah? I
want to know what is the what's the cheat code? Right? What do I need to do for just baseline glowy, dewey, healthy skin. Right. I know I'll never look like Isa, I'll never have those cheek bones, but I want to try and get as close as I can. Yeah, And so I want all the tips and tricks. Yeah, I want that. So one of the things I want to know is there are a lot of Instagram skincare companies. Is some of this stuff fake? Like what's just a fad? And what's real? What do I really need? And what
could I do without? And then if we know we're losing certain components of our skin as we age, how do we add them back? Can you just add them back with a multi vitamin or should you be you know, spreading it on what's the best way do I need to ingest this vitamin or do I need to lay it on top of me a vitamin blanket, a vitamin need blanket, a collagen blank that's that I need to
be sleeping with. So another thing that I want to know is how our skin interacts with the outside environment, Like how does the air like like when you live in like a drier climate or more humid climate like here, how does that affect your skin?
Yeah?
And are there even long are there long term effects? Should I be living somewhere different if I want this skin to be dewey? All I know is that DC two human and I gotta get out of here. Okay, So let's get into the di Section and four Today's lab we have the Joanna Simpkin.
Hi, this is Joanna Simpkin and I'm a makeup artist. You can find me at Joannasimpkin dot com or my Instagram is Joinna Simpkin or my Twitter, where I'm very unfiltered is Joanna Simpkin. And that's j O A N N A S I M K I N Yes.
If you don't know who Joanna Simpkin is, go straight to Instagram right now and put in Joanna Simkin or just hashtag Joanna Simpkin and look at all of the people that she's done makeup for. She's done makeup for everyone you know and love.
I work with Ray all the time. Who we love.
I work with Zaan Malik formerly One Direction, Willow Smith's Kerry Washington stormread.
Let's talk about Ray on that Essence cover. Oh my gosh, Issa looked flawless in that spread, and Joanna just has this really beautiful of just enhancing what is already there, Like Isa Ray is a beautiful woman, and she didn't like make her look not like herself. She just like really knows how to place that stuff and just make you shine.
I would never want you to run into Issa in the grocery store and be like, I did not even recognize you, you know what I mean?
Like that is crazy.
And I generally feel like all my clients, like I don't like to see a ton of compliments under my client's pictures of I love your makeup, Like I like sometimes like oh I love the eyes, or that's a great lip color. But like my favorite thing, not that Lisa doesn't have beautiful skin, but my favorite comment under her pictures is like drop the skincare routine, sis, And I'm like, thank you, good good. I want you guys to think that she's got like a tap of foundation
on and that's just her skin. And she does have beautiful skin, but you know what I mean, Like I'm just like that's what I That's the type of comments I like to see.
She also works with Regina Hall, Marseille Martin, Hannah Brofman. Hannah Brofman yep, So who else would I go to for all the Black Girl Magic skincare? Unlock the vault and show me what's inside.
I am obsessed with skincare, and I get a lot sent to me. So it's funny because they say you should kind of like try something for like thirty days to really see how your skin. And I'm like, I'm such a skincare whore, but I do find things that I love and I'll stick with them.
We asked Joanna, what is the key skincare routine? And so we're just gonna break it down. We're gonna give you the science behind all of it. Buckle up, what is the first step?
I used to just wash my face?
And then I realized that like actually removing the makeup before you wash is so important. Like mysoler water, to my knowledge, is oil like suspended in water. So it's like a less oily version was still the action of an oil breakdown of makeup. I really love the Bioderma one, but I've gotten them from multiple brands, and I just love the biodermo one.
I think it just takes off everything.
My solar water. It is oil and water. Inside of that water, you have my cells. That's what your oil is. And a my cell is made up of surfactant molecules, and our surfactin molecules have a hydrophilic head and a hydrophobic tail, and so you have all these molecules that are in this water. And the hydrophobic part of it, so it doesn't like water. They all aggregate together and
form this sphere that's called a miceell. Then you introduce dirt by putting the mysolar water on your skin, those hydrophobic tails attached to all the dirt, and then the micell reforms into that sphere and takes the dirt away. So what you're getting rid of is a my cell with the dirt trapped inside. The dirt's trapped inside the sphere. Some of y'all are just using these mysolar water on a cotton ball and jumping right in the bed and
thinking that's enough. That's not quite it. There's another step. There are a couple more steps. So Joanna says that after your mysolar water comes the cleanser.
I prefer general cleanser. I used to use more harsh when I was younger and my skin was a little more oily. Now I find I like a mild cleanser right now. I've been using this like shs shado while so one that's like it's I think like honey in it. It's like really hydrating. Muskin just feels really fresh when I'm done with it.
And with cleanser. It works kind of like the micellar water, but the cleanser probably has different components. Yeah, so probably some strong, some combination of surfactant molecules. So a combination of molecules that are gonna help you get even more dirt off and really down into those poor Yeah, so use those circular motions, y'all. So now we've hit getting all the dirt off of your face. But now we're get into something that you talked about t T renewing
that skin. So I think there's something that we really take for granted, and that's making new skin cells. Our body makes new skin cells from the bottom of an epidermis layer and then they just travel up to the top and they flake off. So that process from your skin cells making new skin cells at the bottom of the epidermis and traveling up to the top, that's about a month, right, And so one of the ways that people renuce skin is to exfoliate. They take that top
layer of dead skin cells. How do they get it off? Exfoliation is the key. Yes, I need baby skin every day.
People go back and forth about manual versus chemical exfoliation. I am a crazy person.
I like both.
I get these like little like egg shaped scrubber things like off Amazon, like a pack of twelve over like two dollars or whatever, and I'll use them for like a week or two until they completely lose their integrity. But I'll like also like put my cleanser in that and like really get into my pores. And I've done that since I was like fourteen, and I swear that's why I really really get pimples, because it really exfoliates
for me. It might be too harsh for some people, so I'm not like saying everyone go do that, but exfoliating is key regardless.
I only use chemical exfoliators, oh really, yeah, because the manual ones I felt like it was too like harsh, harsh on my skin. I felt like my pores are getting really big. It might've all been in my mind, but I only use chemical exfoliators. So sail like acid, hyaluronic acid, things like that, and I just lay that acid on my face sometimes I'll put it, I'll put my my cleanser on and I'll just let it sit on my face for five minutes before I wash it off.
I really want that acid to get deep down in there. You know, I think acids get a bad rep because people think of acids and they start thinking about like battery acid, you know, or they're like, oh, chemicals, it's not good for me, right, And I think it's important for people to remember we are made of chemicals. Yeah, head to toe, head, ruda to the tuda. That's my
favorite thing to say. So you know I mentioned AHA alphydroxy acid is derived from sugarcane, milk, almond grapes, is there, Yeah, I mean, and there's even acids in like oranges and lemons and stuff like that that are also very good for the skin. And the way acids help you get rid of or particularly like AHA and BHA's help you get rid of your skin cell or help you exfoliate, is that those skin cells don't think of them as just sitting up there all alone, floating around. They're helping
it to each other. Right, they're connected, so they're connected left to right, on each side of each other, and to the layer of skin cells that are beneath and so as is break down those connections between those skin cells and makes it easier for them to come off.
After I wash.
I will tone depending on if certain times in the month. I definitely need like a little more of like a pimple fighter, And I just love good old Nutrogena. They have one called Acne Stress Control, which I think is amazing, Like it really attacks like my hormonal breakouts.
For like about I use it about.
Eight days in the month, like we all know around the time that we're going to need to use it, and then the rest of the month sometimes I'll use I love like Fresh makes this rosewater toner, which is basically just like a hydrating cleansing. I don't know. It just feels like a really nice and refreshing and I do it on cotton cotton ball or cotton pat. It just kind of gets all the rest of the all
of the residue off. And I also like to use reusable cotton pads because I really care about the environment, and I found out cotton is a very dirty crop, so I'm trying to really and if you think about it, most cotton comes in a plastic bag, so you're just creating a ton of waste.
So yes, reusable cotton pads.
The same thing for when I remove my makeup, I get these black microfiber ones so you don't see all the messcara on them, you throw them in the wash.
It's amazing.
So toner is something that it's not one size fits all. You can't just walk into the store and just pick up any old toner and say this is going to work for me. It's really important to know your skin. One thing that all toners have in common is that they all have alcohol. And so what its main purpose is to do is to close up your pores and prep you for the next step. But depending on your
skin type, you might be looking for other ingredients. Like if you have oily skin, you might want something that has like, say, like acid in it. If you have drier skin, you want something that's more moisturizing, So maybe you'll choose something that has rose water or something like that in it. But it really depends. A popular ingredient in toner is witch hazel, and sometimes people just use
witch hazel itself as their toner. And this is an extract from a plant or an herb, and it has properties that have been shown to kind of be anti aging. And if you think back to what we said at the top, elastin and collagen are part of these There are these fibers that are in all the layers of your skin, but those things get broken down, and so which hazel has properties that prevent the breakdown of collagen
and elastin and keep that skin looking tight. If you would have asked me where does which hazel come from? I would have been like, I don't know, probably some lady named Hazel that nobody liked, or something I've been seeing lately witch hazel blowing up. And I just bought at Target this little small travel bottle of which Hazel. That's like cucumber with hazel, and it smells like cucumber. But I'm like, is it I don't know if it's
just cucumber fragrance or if does cucumber have properties? Well, you know people used to put cucumbers on their eyes in the older movies. They would have the cucumbers on the eyes at the spa. Maybe it's just bathing with chazel. It seems like that would be expensive and probably not good, not good for all skin. But it's pretty cool, right, This is really good because it shows like your skincare routine can be all natural. It's from Nearth, straight from
those plants. I like it. Okay, So now we've gotten to the point where we have stripped ourselves all the way down. Our skin is completely clean. We're going to take a quick break and when we get back, we're going to talk about how to build your skin back up. And we're back now that our skin is clean, right, what do we need to put on our skin to get us to get that glow? Let's build it back up.
I'm super into essence. A lot of people swear by the sk two one. I think it's like the biggest selling essence. It's pretty pricey. Fresh created one called the Black Tea and Kombucha Essence. I love the texture of it. It's a watery texture, but it leaves this like really soft, like your skin feels like a baby's butt.
Literally.
One of the things that I really like is when I have skincare that feels smooth or slippery, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not all tacky, it doesn't feel crazy on my face. What material gives me that feeling? It's actually silicone, hmm, like silicone Valley silicone, I don't think so. Silicone is what gives your moisturizers and vitamins that that extra slippery feeling. It's just the nature of
that material. And it's really important to put those those types of moisturizers on first, the ones that are really slippery and wet, those should come in contact with your face first so that it can absorb all of those things. Because if you put on something that's way too heavy and then you try and put on the slippery, slick stuff, the lighter stuff, it won't penetrate through that thicker cream
that you put on top. So start off with the slick, silicone based stuff and work your way to the heavy set and then word ahead, not putting basoline on and then putting on serums. It doesn't work like that.
No, then I will go into my vitamins. So I love like either like a vitamin C. There's one I love from Sunday Riley called I think it's called CEO, which is like their vitamin C serum.
Vitamin C is absorbic acid and it really helps with collagen synthesis. It helps with the elasticity, it helps with your skin looking like plump, but it also helps you look brighter.
My thing for brightening in general, which would be like a vitamin C or some stronger ingredients like hydro keenone if you're having some discoloration. Are really good, especially like on brown skin, the hydro keenone, especially on everybody. I think vitamin C is like a great ingredient unless you are sensitive to it, which some people are.
I just want to look like the sun walking around. I want to walk out my house and people be like, Oh my gosh, what's happening. It's just me. It's just me. It's just me. I'm walking on sunshine. Whoa do you remember those wasn't an artist named vitamin C? Yeah, back when we were in like middle school or high school. It was the same woman that did that. She did the song, that graduation song. Yes, that everybody was playing. God, I know what you're talking about. So you can get
vitamin C in a lot of different ways. You can use serums, you can use creams. Some people just sell concentrated vitamins and things like that. You could take pills. But one thing that I did that I don't know if it actually worked, but I was actually just taking lemons from the grocery store, squeezing them and then using a cotton pad and then rubbing lemon juice on my face. So I was getting that vitamin C direct to the skin straight from the source, and I felt like it
was amazing. I felt like I looked great.
You did.
Then I'll do an I cream. There's a Shiitsado one that I love. I have to look up the name of it. It's in like a skinny white tube. I have to pull it up. But it's like my favorite I cream right now. And I like a I cream that's actually not too heavy. I think people go way too heavy on I cream and that's how you end up getting all the little milia, which are those little like hard bumps that you can kind of get around
your eye. It's really delicate skin, and people will clog those pores with too heavy So people like these really rich I creams like I need moisture. I need moisture, and it's you need moisture, but like not to the level that you think you do and you're clogging.
I remember a long time ago I read something that said that you should be putting your so you're not too rough with that. You should be putting your I cream on with your ring finger something where you don't have you know, we can press all hard with our index finger, but it's harder a little bit with your to press with your ring finger. For most people, I see you pressing pretty hard, though, Yeah, I don't feel a difference. I'm like press lightly so much that you're
not even moving the rest of your hand. That's so light. Yeah, that's how you're supposed to be treating that area. It is tender. So a lot of I creams have stuff like caffeine, which actually can constrict blood vessels, so you won't see your blood vestis because the skin is so thin, so you can see blood vessels sometimes underneath people's eyes, particularly people with pale or skin HM. And so you get caffeine so you can kind of constrict those blood vessels.
But that seems counterintuitive. I feel like I want the blood to flow. You know. I don't know about you, but I wanted to keep those blood vessels at one hundred percent capacity maximum flow through. So then maybe you shouldn't drink so much coffee. That's not what No, this is, Okay, that's a different all right. Sorry. So the next step after that is hydration.
I kind of rotate with my with my moisturizers depending on how my skin's feeling, and sometimes I'll add an oil into it if I feel really dry or like in the winter. There is a oil that I love called Supernol, which is like an antioxidant extreme glow oil. I love the feel, I love the smell, So sometimes I'll just use that as my moisture or sometimes I'll drop it into an additional moisturizer for like extreme moisture, and I rotate my moisturizers. I use Ciseado, I use philosophy.
I mean, I just use all kinds of moisturizers land come mixed, really nice ones. But I'm a big fan of face oils in general, like if you really need the extra hydration, and just in general, I think not even if I think like people think I'm oily, I don't need to add oil, but oil.
Is great for your skin in general.
And like to that whole conversation about like mysolar and makeup remover, like oil does break down other oils. So sometimes by default, adding oil to oily skin is not going to make you oilier. It's actually gonna help control your oil because your skin's going to have oil on it. So the natural reaction for your oily skin is to send more oil to the top because it thinks you need it. But if the oil is already there. Your
skin is not going to react that way. So sometimes even oilier people should be using more oil.
So one of the things to understand is we have glands that produce oil in the dermis, so that's right under our epidermis, and oil skin isn't all bad. The thing is you want to find the right balance. Sometimes people have really oily skin, so they make a lot of oil and that might lead to them getting zits or pimples and stuff. Yeah, but you ail is good for you because it actually like helps preserve your skin, and people with oil skin tend to have thicker skin
and fewer wrinkles. The key is to yes, you might want to get away get rid of the extra oil, but don't take away the good oil. Yeah, so you don't want to strip it all the way Yeah, don't strip it all the way down.
And then I do sunscreen. I love, like the Glossier one is really great. It's like clear. It also gives a nice glow, so like even after piling all that on, it like it weirdly like gnats and glows at the same time.
So that's my last step before makeup.
Sunscreen is a really important step when it comes to like having healthy skin, like not just sunscreen for your face, head to toe sunscreen. None of us should really be going outside when the sun's blazing like it has been without that protective layer on.
And I like a clear sunscreen a because it feels b because it doesn't give you that weird like purply cast and especially like the browner your skin is, you should definitely be using a clear sunscreen because those ultraviolet blocking ones can really show up on brown skin.
And the way the sunscreen works is that it has all of these nanoparticles in it, and those nanoparticles are used to basically reflect the sun back out and so it is literally a protective layer where that it doesn't allow UV rays to get through. Wow. So it's just like you know how back in the day there were those and some people still using those silverfold up things that you put in your car to keep the inside
of the car from getting too hot. Basically we're just holding those up on our face and send the sun right back to itself. I'm rubber, You're glue back at you like, yeah, I mean, it doesn't keep all of the sun out, but it keeps a lot of the bad sun rays out. So then we had to ask Joanna, is there anything we can skip because there's all kinds of stuff on the internet and we want to know do we really need all of that?
Yeah, there's definitely like products that I feel are overrated. Like I don't think anyone in the world needs setting spray, Like what what is that?
What is that?
Like setting spray? You don't need that, Like what is that? I don't even know what's that supposed to do? Like people think that's like a like a deck when you're standing down your deck and you need to seal it and make it water p Like, No.
We had just live and die by setting spray. Now I know, it's just all the application is wrong. Teeth, You're not putting your makeup on right because your makeup should stay on, and rolling is not super necessary unless you have something kind of coming up.
For me, Like I don't think you need to do like rolling or guasha or anything like that unless you're seriously like puffy.
You know what I mean.
Like those those techniques are meant to distribute the fluid that's under your skin. So you know, you flew in late last night and you're eating salty French fries on the plane and we're up at five a m. Glamoring and you look puffy. Then like, yeah, let's try to distribute some of that fluid like every day or whatever. I mean, it feels nice, but I don't think you're really like having some gigantic effect.
Does it have to be jade? Some people use rose quartz and is that spiritual? Like I'm trying to figure out what So I learned a lot here, but something that you haven't heard us talk about just yet that I think Joanna does beautifully and is really spreading this message all across the internet, and that's about being Bear in the Air. Yeah, she has a hashtag on her Instagram.
If you put go on to Instagram and put hashtag bear in the Air, you'll see all of these people who have been following in her footsteps as far as keeping your skin absolutely free of all things when you are flying, yeah, and really using that time to put on your best serums and vitamins and whatnot. I love.
I love when I see people tagging me and they're going all in like with a sheet mask, Like I don't even care who's looking at least under eye mask, like under a sunglass. But people got like sheet masks or like landling gloves. I'm like, you guys are like committed, and I love it. I've definitely done a sheet mask on the plane. I'm like every extra thing you can do. And it's funny because sometimes people will say, oh, I don't like face oil, it feels too greasy on my skin.
I guarantee you, if you get on like a long haul flight and you put oil on and you feel greasy, by the time you land, your skin is gonna just feel like soft and supple and you're not gonna feel any bit of oil whatsoever because your skin's just gonna drink all of it.
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I feel like this was revolutionary for me. Yeah, I realize that I have a good foundation where I have some of the things that she is talking about. Maybe not the specific products. Some of these products I don't know if I can afford them, but I think I'm
on my way. I think I have the products, and I need a little bit more discipline with doing these things faithfully because sometimes by the time I get to the bathroom to get ready to go to bed at night, I'm like a makeup white will do And this is just and sometimes I'm like a clinics. White will do anything. We'll do toilet paper, toilet paper with a little bit of water from the sink well, and I need to keep that pillow case will do. And I'll just say,
now you just laid let the pillowcase take off the day. Yes, the pillow case will absorb all the oils. And we didn't even talk about washing your pillow case. You got to wash your pillow case. Yes, you know, y'all washing y'all pillowcases. I changed my pillow throughout the week because I have a bunch of the same pillows and I just rotate them throughout the bed. I try to wash my pillows every time, my pillowcases every time I do laundry.
Is there anything you're gonna do differently? Now? I think I'm gonna try it and find like an essence or something. The way she was describing it, I feel like I'm missing out on something like this secret that everyone has been keeping from me, and I want to try it. So I think I'm gonna start doing some googles and and get just I'm probably just gonna put what she what she uses in my Amazon cart If I'm being honest, yeah, just put it all in there and get to and
then I'll come retrieve the items that. Okay, better for me, no problem. I really want some I cream, like I have some little samples that I got from like so four and I need to just apply, apply, apply, because I don't do that and that skin is tender under there. M h, not too much though. No, we don't want millia bumps. Yeah, she told us about those. I don't even want to talk about them. Y'all have to google it, Google millia bumps and be prepared to be disgusted. Yeah,
but you can get rid of those with a good aesthetition. Yes, and that's anesthetician can get rid of all of those. So don't don't worry. If you have millia bumps, it's fine. We got you, We got you. You can go get those removed. So you can find links to all of these products that Joanna mentioned, and additionally, you can find links to some of me and tit's favorite products in the show notes. Yeah, I'll put a link to the Lemons. You're gonna click on TT's link and you're gonna have Instacart.
It's gonna immediately go to the Giant and get all the limits in the bag of lemons Costco. You need lots of lemons and just put them in the freezer. They'll last longer. Check out the show notes so I can't wait to hear from you. Guys. If you have a product that you swear by, send it to us. We want to see on Titus on Instagram. Take a picture and make sure you tag us so that we can repost it on Dope Labs and I will probably buy it and I will probably try it out and
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