Can we just start the recording already? No, that's not great. It's red. Welcome to dont look under the internet everybody red means go podcast about.
You've got to you've had so many opportunities. So many creepy internet oddities dammit. No, what is it? I'm not happy. I'm not helping you.
Buddhist Buddhist things, you'll find that the internet that's That's it. The spoon part is doomed, but just things you can find on the internet. That's Jason.
Yay.
That's Doug. Hello.
Hello.
And I'm Doug.
Hello, hello. We're in a mood today. We've all had good days. I would say
also, I think I can't mix it up because people are still confused on who is who
does not do that. Jason. Hello, I am Jason. Church. What's
your dog? Say your name your dog? Huh? Okay, that's enough. And I'm Who should I be this week?
Who Should l Nye the Science Guy?
Bill? Bill? Bill,
Bill? No, because I don't believe in science. Get out.
Oh, Ken Ham Ken Ham for sure. It all goes exactly why?
I'm Ken Ham. And I'm assuming became his
creationist who things bananas were invented for people.
The ones we're using now, technically,
they were by people. Yeah, he'd know. He thinks the original banana was delicious and made to fit perfectly in the human hand. And then somebody was
really thinking you're gonna go into human x because they are perfect.
My hand has been an ass. I've just found out today if your hand hasn't been in an s been an ass. It's just been that. How do you for someone else? How does Oh, how does it poop? Pooping wasn't involved. Oh, I found out today that broccoli is manmade. You're welcome for that. Yeah, Doug isn't really Yeah, it's an incestuous vegetable city came from Mustard. Mustard through years and years of pouring out mustard plant. Man has manufactured broccoli. You broke me I don't know.
What we played God doesn't matter. He rocks. Brock wood that's
that's our accomplishment. As God
we were overthinking. We didn't stop to ask if we could never there should. What is the drastic part? What is it going to take some mustard? You get your broccoli? 10,000 years later? Wow, what an enigma that is. Hey, bring
it full fucking circle deluding.
Housekeeping head. Golly gee willikers do we have quite a number of people to shooty shout out because as you all know, we didn't really record last week. So I'm gonna list off a couple of people one of these I don't remember if I called you out last week or not. So I'm gonna do it again. We got biscuit bunny biscuits ani biscuit bunny we have Jack Douglas, which sounds like Don't take my name like a Jack Reacher Oh, yeah. Or like,
like, actually Jack Ryan. Yeah. Or like, oh my god, it's Jason. Jesus Christ just Jack Douglas. Christ. We also have a kill me quick. Kill me quick. Is that what that supposed to be? Same buddy. k l m e k wi K kill me quick, Cal. That's a name. Kenan and Kel.
And then we have Jasmine. Um, yeah. A name. I could say.
Are you any further I just need to real quick. So Dougie actually pointed out that we had that patron today. And as I looked and said, Jasmine, there's one person in this room that I don't have them saved. My phone is their name. Why Jasmine bug. I don't know why you're saved in my messenger is Jasmine. But I saw that and I was almost about to type you a message being like, Dude, you don't have to like you can subscribe to our Patreon. You make the content. But then I
realized oh, I'm an idiot. There are more people in the world named Jasmine who are actually named Jasmine so thank you, Jasmine, and infuse the shed.
Thank you you other kind folks too. If you would like to support the show go to patreon.com/deluded pod. That'd be super cool of you.
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hear the clink drink, she was
kidding,
huh? perfect segue to our next thing. Look at me. I'm on a roll. I haven't done this one already. Well, I drink a bottle here and it's
mostly full half half full.
Yeah. What the fuck? I'm drinking it. I picked it out. I don't remember the name
Laurie. Arseny not bad. Yeah, you picked it up, man. Yeah, what are we drinking larceny? What's kind of whiskies that
small batch brown straight bourbon whiskey I got it because it was I had a $4 off coupon and I bought my coop and bitch coop and throw them though Yeah, I do a Do you never want to take in a big fat glossy to the oh wait. I'm going to take such a poo god damn it later today.
It's an enigma it's an enigma.
Yes we're talking about today everybody
poopy Enigma we are talking about the Kubilius Enigma
or Publius public I don't like how that sounds I prefer Publius.
I used to especially because how you thought it was spelled it makes me laugh um, you please so yeah, no, we are talking about the Publius Enigma I don't know if a lot of people that listen to us might actually know what this is j soli from when it's from
not only that, but like I'm not even a fan of like who it's about about let's
stop fucking taps are tiptoeing around this void. Yeah, it's so this this site
could not tell you a single Pink Floyd song.
The wall really?
I don't know. Is that the Wonder wall? Yeah. I I'm not a fan of Pink Floyd.
Not many times I've seen the fucking Pink Floyd laser light show at fucking tweeter senator, whatever it is before they changed it to whatever the fuck it's called now. Yeah, I don't remember. But yeah, I know what she does. Yeah. Now we're talking about the Publius enigma. And this mystery kind of goes hand in hand with a very famous band. Nirvana. You got it fucking nailed it and warm. No, it's very closely linked to the
band Pink Floyd. And anybody who has heard of this kind of knows their crypt inner cryptic band already. This just added a whole fucking new
layer. I don't know why but thinking I was trying to think of like another name for like Pink Floyd and like red coral came. I guess not even funny. That's not even like a clever bit like the opposite of Pink Floyd like red Carl's like some like weird like Russian like version.
He's He's a Russian country
taxi equivalent is the equivalent that like Polish guy that does Elvis impression so Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is that okay? Jason, before we move on? Have you ever taken acid and watch the Dark Side of the Moon?
God? No, Doug, I have not. Okay, nevermind. Have you haven't done so you have a story to tell Doug. No. I just feel like it was a very like cliche thing for kids to do was like take acid and watch Dark Side of the Moon, which I would have done. I was so fucking straight edge. Up until honestly, not too long before you guys met me.
You know what, ironically enough? Same. I didn't have my first drink until I was 19. And then I was like, boom. Okay
with that. Maybe not so much because my first drink was at like 60 I think I don't remember. But I think mine was like around them to a while ago. Blue. Was Southern Comfort. No, Jaeger. Nope.
No. I was a man about mine.
But ya know, anyway, we're back onto the pulizia Nigma it's kind of it's linked to Pink Floyd. If you guys don't know who that is. Fucking stop. What you're listening to you right now.
You're my Wonder. No.
This is gonna be full of references from a person who has no idea who Pink Floyd is. No, it's gonna be fucking hilarious. But it's all mentioning
a man named Nick Mason. And I'm like, Who the fuck is Nick Mason? So
she's got a whole song about my god do you guys have anything you'd like to say before we actually jump into this one? You just want to fucking give you
a know why they named their band Pink Floyd. I actually don't I don't either. I was genuinely asking because I thought you
anyways let's fucking jump right into
like I was signed up for Yeah, please do because we're just like, No, I'm like I'm genuinely curious that always like how bands get their names. It's always like a super fascinating thing to me. That's fair. Like when Dylan told us about how like the name oh yeah. And I'm like, That's fucking fascinating. It's always a thing of like,
oh yeah, for sure. It was a spur of the moment decision. The name came from two blues musicians and Syd Barrett's record collection, pink Anderson and Floyd Council. Oh, well, there we go. Well, now we know there was another
band I think that did that to where they just saw to record No, it's a Stephen King. He had a another name he wrote under and he just Oh, first name and the last name with two different authors that he liked. That's the name of it, but it was when he wrote rage.
So fun fact about Stephen King. Stephen King's books are worth a lot if they are signed by Oh, exactly. Do you know whose books worth more if they're signed by Stephen King? Dean cream. He fucking hates it. Who's Dean Koontz? He's a horror writer. Very weird, weird horror writer. He's He's really good. I actually loved you can coons but I think it's so fucking funny that his books are worth more if they're signed by Stephen King. By him. That's That's a fucking power move.
That's a power move. If I've ever seen one.
We're gonna get fucking Alfred by the 74 year old man.
Pretty much. I mean, to be fair, they're both probably they're seven. Yeah. But no, so probably is enigma. What the fuck is it? The purpose Enigma was an internet phenomenon. Way back in like 1994. It's currently an unsolved problem, and began with cryptic messages that were posted by a user identifying themselves only as Kubilius to the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup. I'm not going to fucking go over which one it
is. But for those of you don't know what Usenet is, it's Reddit before Reddit was a thing.
It's name is all those early 90s Like Alta Vista.
Every information repository you can think of this is like the original and I know we covered this on fucking what was it? I don't remember. I think it was Lake City quiet pills. Or wasn't it? It was a wait no Lake City was on Reddit. I think that was Reddit. I fruit knows we I remember Tom look it up.
Get keep going.
Yeah, we didn't talk about this at some point. The one thing that we didn't mention when we were talking about using it was something called the pennant. remailer and that was that was 4chan that was like if Reddit edit a 4chan option which basically made you anonymous
over this Usenet group. Okay, so back in 1990 for the miss the messenger known as poorly as probably as however you want to pronounce it proposed a riddle in connection with the 1994 Pink Floyd album, The Division Bell promising the answer would lead to a reward. So so you know how we call love craft? Cube? Yeah. Can we just start referring to this one is cube Yes, this is cube. Big the big beautiful mystery
cube. I can't find which one that was?
Oh, keep looking. But
if you remember, get back to us. There it is.
Okay. So again, promised that if you could answer this, it's Polybius is the is it really? I'm
pretty sure Livius Yes,
I can see that because that's all just fun. Yeah, anyway,
ironic. Plinius who bleus. Wow,
are we starting a new connection right here. We gotta be maybe once again. Pink Floyd, Pink Floyd, not Pink Floyd Publius said to everyone who saw this that they would get a reward if they answered this riddle. People have asked the man about this a couple of times. David Gilmore has denied any involvements album artist, Storm Thor. Augustine was just kind of amused by it, but he had no fucking idea what they were talking about. What a name, Storm Thor. Great name.
Jesus Christ.
It still to this day remains unclear if the Enigma actually involves a solvable puzzle. Because it has not been fucking solved yet. A lot of people think it's just a hoax. But you know, that's okay. But that's kind of an introduction into what the Publius Enigma is way back in 94. It revolves around Pink Floyd the band. Now, if there's any diehard Pink Floyd fans out there, you guys are gonna remember a little publicity stunt they did with something called the Division
Bell. Now, you guys will know that Division Bell is an album. It's the 14th album by Pink Floyd. And it was released on March 28 1994.
Hey, I'm olden day look at that. What is the division bill
it besides the record that they released, so the other version of this is actually like a blip or an airship. And it basically was it was flying around North America, and it had a message that said this. A spokesperson for Pink Floyd has issued the following statement. you've spotted the Pink Floyd airship Do not be alarmed Pink Floyd have sent their airship to North America to deliver a message. The Pink Floyd airship is headed towards a destination where all will be explained upon
arrival. Pink Floyd will communicate is painfully
non American band
No
no. I'm very ignorant
apparently that's okay.
I don't know jack shit if
you're fine. It's their British, British, English British whatever you want to call. So during so like I said during the 1994 Division Bell world tour so this this airship this blimp came about for their the tour that they had for this album, The Division Bell named the same one spelled with an E at the end just to be more pretentious, I'm sure.
Fucking Brits.
Yeah, in this so just to get an idea. This blimp was about 200 feet long, but it was a big blimp and it displayed this message pretty much all over North America. No one really thought of much. I mean, there were press kits sent to the media like the media knew all of this was happening like nobody was in the dark about this part. What's fun is when we go back into Usenet, after this
blimp had been spotted. So on June 11 1994, an anonymous user of the pennant remail service posted the following message in Usenet, and this is in the alternative music slash Pink Floyd B. r slash Pink Floyd today if
you want me to give it a voice. Ooh, do you want to? Yeah,
I could do that. You wanna read it? Yeah. Are you okay? Cool. This is uh, this is the message that was sent out by Publius
my friends. You have heard them. Wait. I should give them I should make them kind of British. You should. Okay, ready? Here we go. Ready? My friends. You have heard the message ping Floyd has delivered. But have you listened? Perhaps I can be your guide. But I will not solve the enigma for you. All of you must open your minds and communicate with each other. There's
a laundry killed John
Lennon as this is the only way the answers can be revealed. I may help you but only if obstacles arise still Australia less than ride. Thank communicate. If I don't promise you the answers, would you go? Or Lebbeus
what not to Livius probably as
I went along Michael Caine
at the end you did go straight fucking washed out by him but yeah, or nor you went full Australia. So this is a this is a message from this person named Publius, Publius. However you want to pronounce it? Basically inviting the public and most importantly, fans of Pink Floyd to come help participate in this great puzzle that he's put forward? Unfortunately, not a lot of people understood that there was a puzzle here. Like I still get
all and to be fucking honest. I wouldn't have until there was it just looks like a cryptic message. Yeah, that Yeah, it definitely gives off like puzzle vibes to me someone who didn't know how to write a puzzle was like, here's a puzzle that's that's honestly it's like a beginner puzzle but knowing what I know I know it's not Yeah. So as follow up for clarification, Publius sends another message and he goes
Okay, give it the British accent. I don't want you to try. Go British.
Just no practice here. Yeah, yeah. Right into it. Yeah, this will be good. This is not going to be good. I'm terrible at accents. All right. overthinking is gonna sound Russian or some I know already over hasn't even said a word. As some of you expect Nope. As some of you have suspected, the division bill is not like its predecessors. This is Australian as Fuck no, you're doing great. You're better than what Mike did yeah. Although all no I'm alright I'm losing it. I'm just losing it.
Although all Greg's read it as Kermit if you would like to read it
as British Kermit British current events. Just call them Kermit. Cram it. As some of you have suspected, the Division Bell is not like it's predecessor's What is this? What are you doing? I'm doing a narration voice. Would you like me to switch?
Can you do Vegito?
Can we get videos? Oh, great music is subject to multiple interpretations. In this case, there is a central purpose and a design solution, bro. For the engineers, ingenious person or group of persons who recognize this, and will where this information points to a unique price and spin secret ID
that really hurts the boys. I don't know if I keep going though. Yes, you do.
How and where? The Division pal? Listen again. Look again, as your thoughts will steer you meeting the blind while I stared out the steel in your eyes. Lyrics. artwork and music will take you there. Can I lick?
My retina retable Mike Holy shit. So
see, the thing is I can only do 90s The Gita, not that one now where he's like, man, his voice is more. It's whatever. I guess I'll just do Kermit the Frog next. I don't know.
Yeah, follow that dog. I'm not even gonna try to follow that.
You got to give it a go with the British. Your notes up now. So I guess let me know. Alright, give it a shot. This one. The next one?
Yeah. So this don't you have? He's got to talk. I'm literally just segwaying it. So July 16 is the next date that hit another message shows up from Publius. This is after his little clarification like hey, fuckheads there was a puzzle here. None of you got it. I'm telling you now. And then another message eating it out of their head like hey, dickhead thing here. Okay, so what is this? The one says the search to validate? Yes. All right. All right. Here we go. Do Goku. No. Hey, guys. I could try
it. But I think Carmen, I think Joe Kermie. All right, here we go.
To validate the trust of those who believe as well as to reconcile the doubt of others. I have gone to great lengths to plan the following display of communication. Monday, July 18. East Rutherford, New Jersey,
30pm flashing white lights. There was an enigma trust.
Can I just say that for part of that you sounded like Professor warns from Futurama. My very fun. My parents had diamond Delia. It's like after a while doing Kermit my throat doesn't want to do it anymore. I get it. Oh, that was my bit. I don't even realize that my body just rejects voices. So you don't want the fun thing is
so you guys probably can piece together from what Kermit said here. In this message. He mentions the flashing white lights.
Oh, it's not your turn yet. But that's fine. connection that was that was that does make
so keep that in mind is what I'm saying? Gotcha. Okay,
I'm sorry. I jumped the gun there. Okay, go for it. Idiot. So after this, this message is sent forth. A lot of people between the pennant retailer remailer on Usenet, and anyone who has actually heard about this, they'd start just discussing what the fuck does he mean flashing white lights? What are you talking about? They finally figure out that they are the location they're referring to is a mic. Trigger.
Oh, it's it's a it's a stage. Yeah, it's, it's actually for you find out I mean, he even gave you the date and everything. Once you go there, it's July 18 1994 is for these flashing lights that actually appeared on stage on the front stage at a Pink Floyd concert. So you're at this concert from this address that this guy gave out? Just mystery man on the fucking internet in East Rutherford. New Jersey. Yep, in East Rutherford, New Jersey at approximately 10:30pm even gives
you the fucking time. Yeah. What happens? On July 18 at East
30pm. I kind of went more Bernie Sanders on that, which I did in New Jersey. I was feeling like you went a little like, like JFK a little bit.
Oh, yeah. If San Pedro random people
questions all day, yeah. But at 1030 on that stage, a bunch of like white laser lights like flashy ones. enveloped the front of the stage, and it's spelled out the words Nigma Kubilius.
Our little buddy there knows what the fuck he's talking about. Yeah,
so obviously this guy's got some credence, I guess you could say he's got some information. Yeah, yeah. It was at this point that the in September of 90 Six that the pennant remail service was shut down. Yep. Not no longer kind of getting information from this Kubilius fella.
No, yeah, no, he's, I'm not sure if he found another place to like, post this shit or not or honestly, no one is sure if he did because if he did, it was not under his, like probably is probably his name. Yeah, I mean it got to the point where like, people are even asking like Pink Floyd themselves. Yeah, about what's going on. Yeah, and I actually have like a list of official statements from the band, like
surrounding people's. So during a 2002 web chat guitarist David Gilmore set out to do every voice No kidding. That can get real old real fast. So yeah, so during 2000 Shit, Should I do a fucking Cookie Monster? Oh, you could do a cookie monster version? I don't know. I'm not even gonna try. No. All right, so during a 2002 web chat guitarist David Gilmore said that the puzzle was some silly record company thing that they thought up to puzzle people with
an April 2005. During a book signing of his biographical work inside out a personal history of Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason affirm that it had been instigated by the record company and we're not
talking about the Nick Mason from the weekly planet podcast completely verification.
Glad we have that out here. So that will also go listen the weekly plan if you haven't already great. Yeah, planning weekly. Yeah, look them up. Weekly plant and unplanned pod, Nancy, unplanned pod Nancy's gonna kill me. So that was a ploy done by EMI they had a man working for them who adored puzzles. He used to work for the Reagan administration. His job, then would be in meetings with the President. And when Reagan would say Let's bomb these people. He would say that's not
a good idea, sir. He was working for EMI and suggested that a puzzle be created that could be followed on the web. So this was like, I guess, before people really knew what an ARG was. But either way, well, this is pre ARG. Yeah, absolutely. So the prize was never given out to this day. It remains unsolved. The prize was something like a crop of trees planted at a clear cut area or forest or something
to that effect. It was not to be apprised of some tangible thing, but rather a touchy feely sort of gift that was more philanthropic than you know something you could hang on a wall. Yeah. So the comments made by Mason corroborate parts of a previous interview by Sean Heisler with Mark Brickman, Pink Floyd's lighting and production designer. And the man who was responsible for putting nignia Publius message in the lights at
the New Jersey concert. Hmm. So here's a little quote, it says, I think it really came and out of though it came out of some guy of Washington DC that used to be with the CIA or FBI or something that was in the encryption game. He decided he wanted to do some kind of album cover and he started talking to
Steve O'Rourke. And I think what happened was Steve O'Rourke had the his brilliant mind that he was going to try something that the internet on the internet because he had been listening to me, and he got this guy, because if you notice, a lot of this stuff can't be traced from where it came from. And I know that Dave, for one thing didn't even know how to sign on, which I think he's referring to like the internet, when he means like,
sign on. So also, we have Douglas Adams, who was credited for having given the album its title, categorically denied any knowledge or involvement and dismiss the idea of the band members being responsible. I mean, that makes sense considering the interviews with like, the members most of them are just like,
What I also don't really liked how they got a goddamn CIA agent doing all this shit like was the SIOP that boys got it on my fuckin
can you go ahead and look up any like freelance CIA agents that are looking for work? Sure, yeah. Hang on, I'd love to design the energy real quick. See I A okay. For that up. I'll finish what I was talking about here. Okay. So this quote from Douglas Adams is what I said was that I myself knew nothing about it. And that and had never heard Dave or Nick mentioned it and that it didn't sound like anything they'd be bothered with. If you can solve this puzzle, the CIA wants you to apply for a job.
Is that really? Yeah, isn't that the fucking.com? It's like, it's just kW. Use a Nygma. Like the anti cicada 3301. That could be what? Anyways, some of the things to talk about. Yeah, right. So the only thing I know of that was added to a Floyd concert recently was a message that flashed up on the screen from Dave's daughter Claire, wishing Dave and Polly a happy wedding. That's an actual thing to do with actual people.
You have to remember that rock musicians however talented are just a bunch of human beings playing guitars, like novelists are just a bunch of people who stare blatantly at a word processor in the morning and maybe try to think of something that's a bit funny, without being embarrassingly stupid. All this secret secret message stuff is just blah. So as far as this Publius thing is concerned, I don't know anything for sure. All I can say is it sounds like nothing at all, and that the
band would do. They're doing serious job, making sure that the tour goes on well, and sounds everything like something a fan with too much time on his hands would dream up. So that's kind of where we go as far as what we have, like recorded written down and completely official from band members and people that we're working closely with them. So that moves us on to this weird, man. Uncle. Sorry, it is not none of this Qaeda, the CIA will tweet out
like a puzzle. And they're like, if you solve this, check out our career page. And it's just like a little puzzle. They just want code breakers. Yeah,
it looks like that. Code, bro. Anyway, so
um, the three of us could not apply onto this guy. Okay.
They might want me for my can do attitude. Oh, hey, I'm duty housekeeping. Jen, Jen Gieger literally just gave a function today. application was sub Jen. Thank you very much. We almost missed you this week. So appreciate you. Hey,
if you were quick enough, you got to hear that. Yeah. Jeter for the last name. That's actually no they couldn't because they're only a patron. That's fine. spend three more dollars what the fuck? Yeah, right. Talk about you in terrible ways. Anyway.
So I just found this out while doing research for this but Pink Floyd had their own magazine called brain damage. Did not fucking know that called but what does one Yeah, what does one band need a magazine
for inches magazine?
Okay. I don't know. I didn't know that actually. Yes, right now very weird. But in their magazine brain damage. They had a q&a session that they reserved for one person and one person only that was named uncle custard.
Hell yes. They go custard the name the dining room. how long I've been just cooking that one. It just I did. I'm laughing more than it is funny. It's not it's not great. I find it very apparent. Sorry. Go ahead. Mike. The name talk now. I can't thank you. Yeah, go ahead and talk. Say words.
Word do. Do not word you. The name is apparently phonetically similar to you could rearrange it around just say uncool car stud. Which we later find out was a name created by a man named Glenn Povey who you be and it is apparently is kind of like a like a knack at Nick Mason's passion for cars. He likes and stuff, some care cares. But in this q&a in issue number is 34. This is the this little bit that got everyone's attention. Here's the question. Who is probably a
son Nygma. What is the meaning of it all? And what is the treasure to be had? Here's the answer by Uncle custard. What?
I'm sorry, I'm slap happy and everything is funny to me today.
Here's uncle custard. Oh, God, I can't wait.
I'm so excited.
Miss Q has emphasized you humans are so limited. Oh, wow. We're going to go back to the Virginia I'd really rather Virginia is kind of like alienness I think that we're gonna go more like data from Star Trek, but this works too. As long as
you tag on at the end. You're know. You'll know what to tag out. Yeah, I don't you're not dealing with a normal Oh.
Whoever heard that one from God dammit. God, there's so much here too. Do you need do you need like a minute break on it? Let's do it. Ready? Here's the answer from Uncle costume.
As the infamous Q has emphasized you humans are so limited. This is a project for all those out there with higher IQs it does require a mastery of diverse languages along with a lot of spare time. Now get with it. The lights are brighter. The meaning is one inside out. The bell is told and the surrogate band is coming back to life. The answer lies not linearly within the paradox of the theme of the division belt. communication breakdown.
Here's a hint Go watch the learning fly learning to fly video hole. I love everything about the way.
Oh shit, there's more of a paragraph. Let's keep going.
It may also involve an anomaly in the space time continuum, there is an obvious solution, and you do not need to be a Floyd historian to figure it out. winners will receive official entry into the Mensa society, and some tries to cool down all those neural pathways in your brain. It is also to note that neither I nor anyone involved in this zine will enter into any correspondence on those topic. It's a puzzle for you devise by the one who loves you enough to drive you mad.
Besides, I'm much too busy creating crop circles and executing Think Tank projects for the Pentagon. You see, you're not dealing with the average say and warrior.
Oh, god. Dude, that I I am floored by your Vegeta boy,
it hurts but to go full blown. 90s early Vegeta is quite a Polish. It's a hit. It's a fun time.
I'll be honest, I didn't hear a word you said because
I wish I could do new video because he's got the bass and I like the bass. Yeah, Chris Watts got a very like now he's like this all the time. It's me. Piccolo. Piccolo
marine guy from
DBZ Lamia row.
I'm back. Hello. So you find out that over the years, the answers given by Uncle custard have actually been written by several different people who were part of the magazine. Oh, god, it's hard to talk now. It's okay, but I'm not this not at all. This response itself was actually written by the former editor of the printed version of brain damage. Jeff Jensen. Although they can't really say if this is like super accurate or not, it's a little
up in the air. Because Jensen hasn't like come out and actually said like, Fuck, yeah, that was me. So, Joe, yeah. Well, so realistically, the last bit of info that we really have on this whole thing is just kind of where you can find the references. The possible places that you can find this are in a variety of different Pink Floyd
releases. So we've got Pulse, a DVD of the 20th October 1994, televised concert at Earls Court London, contains the footage of the word Enigma being projected in large letters on the backdrop of the stage during the song and other brick in the wall part to the DVD authoring company Das Boot, using as uses an Enigma machine as their logo which can be seen at the end of the show.
So in the 2019 re edit of polls included in the later years boxset it has a different camera angle and it's substituted so that the Enigma projection is less prominent, you can still kind of see it in one shot, and then like a little bit in another, but pretty much it's been to like almost deliberately removed now. And the artwork for the mini disc release of a momentary lapse of reason. The word Publius has been inserted into the photo of a man and
arrived field. The word Enigma shows in the lower corner have a picture of the man standing at the edge of the cliff, which I believe you had to lighten and like darken these photos to even see those Yeah, they were they were quite edited or not edited. You had to do some editing. Yeah. And then you know in the 90s that wasn't as exactly like Photoshop. So then we have the words Publius Enigma are spoken just before the song One of these days on a 2003 DVD release of Pink Floyd live at Pompeii.
Storm with the Pompeii Yeah, right before it explodes. Or I don't mean to cut you off. I forgot to bring this up just a minute ago. Um, there you mentioned the the infamous Q with Uncle costume mentions that Oh yeah, yeah, infamous Q Q anon. Oh my god dammit. Conspiracy. Fucking Uncle Uncle mustard. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. You're good. So storm morgansen's cover of for the John Harris book The Dark Side
of the Moon. The making of the Pink Floyd masterpiece includes it includes the following text. Despite numerous attempts to loot elucidate the mysteries of success. The ubiquitous popularity of this record remains an enigma. He said the word he said
looking. See also previous? Yeah, poop.
They're related. So page 13 aid Polybius Yeah, it's true. It's what facts we didn't mention it in our episode but that's that's the facts. Yeah. So page 13 of the division bells CD booklet contains an anagram of the word Enigma, and the third column from the right of the top verse of the lyrics to wearing the inside out. aligned with the page number. You son. Sure you son fusing us on. Anthony Moore, who wrote the lyrics of the song has denied that this was
intentional on his part. The official Pink Floyd biography contains the statement true to their beginnings there has always been an enigma at their heart and ends with for at the heart of Pink Floyd. There has always been an enigma. They're doing this shit on purpose. 100% a weird that en en EIMs movie The Endless River from 2019 that can be found in the later years box shows the words Publius Enigma at the end of the second Alonzo song. And that's all the references that we really have.
Yep, there's not a lot. That's it. Episode over goodbye. We did actually hit pretty good time. Honestly, I'm I'm proud of us. I'm very proud of us. Yeah,
this one is. There's a lot of mystery. There's nothing really like. And this might be because it's a product of its time of like the 90s. There wasn't like that community to help with the growth like like as quickly because like, when I think of like, something like this, I think again, like KFC murder chicks or something with erotica or something like that, where there's a story, there's a clear cut story, but you have to find the clues to that story.
With this. There's nothing really there that gives off hints of a store. You have to find the puzzle, and then hope that there's something
you have. This is super early internet. Oh, I'm sorry that but one of the other things is that there if I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure like Roger Waters, and like some of the other guys in the band, like didn't get along very No, that's actually that's a story for another time. Yeah, they didn't really get along. There's a lot of tension between the band and that's actually why a lot of the responses that were given about this were so different. Yeah, I
guess, um, people are like, Yeah, I don't remember if we mentioned this or not, but like, the Pink Floyd, like, members have come out. And they're just like, yeah, that's just something that the record company made.
So actually, I'm happy you said that. So when I was going over my part of the beginning, I specifically only mentioned two of the members, one who had no fucking idea. And two is like, that sounds cool. But I don't I don't know. The guitarist, however,
is that Nick Mason? David Gilmore.
That's not I'm sorry. No, Ray Jillette. The sorry, not the guitar the basis that Nick Mason? No, Mike, Nick Mason is the drummer. Gotcha. So it's actually very funny when I very funny, there was one video that I was watching on this, like, I read up a bunch about this, and I was watching through a couple of videos and apparently there was an interview with the drummer or Nick Mason, Mike, Nick Mason is the drummer of Pink Floyd.
I know cool.
There was an interview with him where he literally would not give a fucking straight answer. Whenever asked about Publius and Nygma he'd get like a smirk and like not give an answer or something like that. i That's to me, that's very obvious. You know what I mean? I don't know if that's him trying to cultivate some fucking mystique around this or if that's just him, being coy and also kind of happy that he's recognizing that you guys found the thing that I made and I'm
gonna just smirk about it. So that's, he did the anime sunglasses with a shiny ship. You fool. You fool. Maybe everybody's just missing like one like thing that's just like sitting out in public. That's kind of like when we were doing Moots fucking Oh, God. Just like, there's just one guy that takes the same train that his name is Floyd and he's wearing pink. And in his wallet. He just has like a coupon to Chili's. That's the prize and no one has southwest. No one has come up with goblet con.
What is junk? applica we need to get them. We need to get them out. And we talked about the goblin universe. Yeah, we do need endless appetizers.
I agree. I mean, maybe he'll bring them I don't know. I don't really have too much more to say about this. There isn't a whole lot more aside from the fact that guys this is still not solved. No one has said one way or another if the prize that exists is still like fair game or not. So probably not. I would doubt it considering constraints was land and the price of land has gone. Well considering also that David Gilmore and Roger Waters do their own
concerts now. Yeah. And the fact that Pink Floyd is basically non existent? Yeah. Well, I don't know. Maybe Maybe maybe, if whoever is like directly responsible for this sees it. Maybe they'll have a, you know, a good old big heart and be like, Well, yeah, they took the prize for themselves. He's fine. Yeah, I mean, I don't really have too much left on this one either. I actually, I have nothing left on this. I should say. There's no other information. Yeah,
I would say, if you're like me, go listen to Pink Floyd. So you know what they are? Yep. Yeah, that's where I'm at. I would also like to say
at least the wall, man. Come on. Yeah, you're right. I
just need to get on that. I probably heard it. You and I just couldn't another brick in the wall. You've never heard that. Again. Like all in all. It's all just another brick in the wall. I've probably heard it. If I hear it. I'll probably know it. Okay, fair enough. Yeah. And don't play it. I see you on your No, don't play. It's Pink Floyd. We can't afford any of that means Ghana copyright reasons. I would like to say one last thing. I'd
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Man we're done trying to interrupt because you honestly overpowered the both of us Jason last thoughts my last thoughts I don't know if I can stay paranoid guys. Please go solve this goddamn enigma. It's killing me. I tried a bit and then I was tired so I fell asleep. Oh my god. Guys slap your peens in your beans together. Sorry. I had to because you always interrupt me. No, that's fair. Yeah, just slap your peens and your beans together catch me on whatnot streaming? Yeah, go check out jugs.
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