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DLUTI 051 - Hastur, The Whisperer in the Darkness

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The King in Yellow, Hastur the Unspeakable, Fenric, Dweller in the Depths, Thing in the Lake, Him that Slept Beneath, Great Prince of the Old Ones, and Johannes Van Der Berg. These are just a few names taken by the Outer God, Hastur. Join Jason and Doug as they blast Mike and Matt with as much of a description of this Lovecraftian deity as they are able (unspeakable horrors and all that). A perfect follow-up to Kate Yup!

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Transcript

Mike

I don't you know I just ate for Valentine's day we went to Naperville and I eat octopus and I had

Jason

the tentacles for the first time No No soy sauce

Mike

no it wasn't the first time that and soy sauce it was a Mexican place and they had they had tentacle with this like pesto and this like a lime or you get by no eight It was no but it was very good I will say it was a little little rubbery of my taste. I think it needs to be prepared differently or I need to eat it faster because I think

Doug

it's weird because I actually don't like or do you like seafood?

Mike

Yes

Doug

I don't I don't care for seafood but I do love me octopus and squid for some reason.

Jason

It was very naturally tentacles. Yeah, Ashley tentacle.

Mike

It was good I think it just let it because

Matt

you there are a lot of things in this world that I just won't eat. There are very few things in this world that I just won't eat but like fried fucking like squid, calamari, like Yeah. Oh god. No, it's terrible. The rubbery texture

Jason

Hey, Matt We're doing a thing where we introduce the topic. It has to do with tentacles Oh lovely

Mike

you brought us into it.

Unknown

That's something that I was put should a fucking mentioned with like the seafood and shit from the last episode you guys did. I'm deathly afraid of sea life. I hate it.

Jason

So this is going to be so much fun then.

Doug

Absolutely. Oh it'd be so real quick met with what Jason just said. We're trying to segue into the topic. What would you call that? What would I call what would you

Jason

call a segue into a topic?

Unknown

Well, I think bird scooter is much more entertaining

Jason

Oh hell yes. Thank god okay, I haven't programmed in air horn and the sound pad yet but that will work I guess we

Mike

don't need to keep using the sound we abused Well

Jason

now it sounds like shit Mike

Unknown

my jobs it's if you

Doug

click the button you don't get to on the button

Mike

you wanted this I don't know what else to get

Jason

no we did ask for this we

Doug

did we Oh of thumb is to like the button you don't get to unclick the button because

Mike

saloon corner Yes. Corner is here. To put us also Matt's here again because we're going on a four episode bench

Jason

and I have a very good question before we start this. If I happen to know the location in Chicago of some after hours, octopus bars would that fall under the Cathar blue corner like criteria?

Doug

Also, you guys know what that means? I think you're stepping into muck bang territory.

Jason

Oh no. I mean unless you think that eating is with both sets of lips. That oh, maybe. Ooh,

Unknown

I've decided that the only way that I can get over my fear of seafood is to have a Jason and towards Doug and or Mike McBain Have you just shoving random sea creatures in your maids,

Doug

the $100 Patreon to be

Jason

very careful of what you wish for. Be very careful.

Mike

So since we're talking about seafood and sea life, and we also have a mat here, for those of you just chiming in, Matt, again has been with us for a couple episodes because we're going on a four episode binder that he created the ripsaw slash rebar arg and we'll check out those episodes. They're

Jason

really fun ever lives meaning for like three to four months.

Mike

Yeah, and now we're talking Jason and Doug are going to talk to me and Matt about see what

Jason

you're gonna blast your ear balls are full of tentacley fun knowledge 10 ticular 10 ticular knowledge

Mike

so with proper Cthulhu corner I know nothing. Matt apparently knows nothing. We made sure absolutely not. And you to know everything so yes. What do we what are we talking about?

Doug

Now? It's not a what it's a who? And even then it but it might also be a what or aware? And uh, when

Mike

you're not home? Honestly,

Doug

it could be a lot of things in here the

Jason

A why or how

Doug

the classic Hube fashion. You never really know what we're talking about you

Mike

ever really thought keeps everything mysterious?

Jason

It every speakable it is unspeakable can't talk about in describe.

Doug

So we're just gonna, this episode is actually just 45 minutes of silence. Because he is so indescribable and unspeakable that we're going to just go through it. And, you know, classic Hubert Pubert Lovecraft fashion.

Jason

Yeah, I mean, to be fair, I do have a visual representation of the thing we're talking about today. What

Mike

it sounds like is going to happen is they're gonna give me the name of whatever we're talking about. Followed by 45 minutes of silence with the occasional just,

Jason

huh? Yes, I'm deleting both my dogs audio tracks, which is just you and Matt just getting confused.

Mike

It's just dead silence is here. This is dead silence and out of nowhere like 28 minutes and us here. Really?

Doug

You might just hear a random cube he you.

Jason

HP? Yeah. Um, so we are doing another Cthulhu corner. Because it's fucking high time since we've done the last one. Last one we did was as a Thoth. And if you could remember, Mike, are you an alcoholic?

Mike

No, I'm giving this do you want that? Oh, you're

Jason

offering it

Unknown

as someone who regularly listens into the show. I do have concerns but maybe

Mike

the concerns are valid. They know they are I giving up my alcohol though. Because I have a drive and I don't want to finish that drink.

Jason

And I don't and Doug staying here late. So we are reaping the benefits.

Doug

Yeah, that was a perfect like maybe holeshot. Yeah.

Jason

We'll tell you that in a sec. Let's explain what Yes. Let's try who is what

Doug

what is our topic? Jason, what are we doing today?

Jason

Have you have you seen the sign?

Doug

I see that. Have you seen the sign? I try to avoid the sign. I mean,

Jason

most would if they knew what the sign was, but if you know what the sign is, that means you have seen the sign, which means you can't escape it. We're talking about a very integral part of the entire Lovecraft slash Cthulhu Mythos today,

Mike

quit target Madang and just tell me his name is fucking Hastur there it

Jason

is. We are talking about Dastur Denny Hastert yellow

Mike

we're talking about Denny Hastert Dennis Quaid? Actually, we don't want to talk about Dennis Hastert. He's not a good boy. I helped him in a qinhuai ETD store. And I sold him a phone who Dennis Hastert. He was

Jason

bad. Do you see? Do you understand? Now you

Unknown

understand what I love about this podcast so much, which is just like 10 Five minutes of build up and then just like 10 minutes of derail?

Jason

That's around you guys last year of our lives.

Mike

Dennis Hastert is no I do know who that is speaker of the house during the George Bush administration and he got in trouble for like pedophilia and went to jail for a long long time. I

Jason

wrote him a likes

Mike

to helping him I sold him a phone and I had to put an iPhone I might be getting way too much information or I might get in trouble but I do have I've called back up on his phone and he started like George Bush and like Clinton's phone numbers office phone do you do not write that shit down? He's like, Oh, these are old contacts. But I guess so doing like Clinton Bush unofficially Why did you

Jason

not commit felonies for us? Are you shitting on that? I should have done it.

Doug

Okay. All right, guys. We are waiting to get back back on track for sure. We're talking about Hastur the king in yellow. What else would you call them?

Jason

Oh, there's a hacer the unspeakable is a fantastic one. He's got so many fucking names Lord Hastur the unspeakable one. A few names that I won't even try to fucking pronounce.

Doug

I believe that one there's Andre you're trying to as Trey has three astray the next one a little more.

Mike

True.

Jason

It's if you want to go the Harry Potter route. The the him who is not? Kawan

Doug

saboteur.

Jason

Is that how you pronounce that acid her it's asked her Jaster is acids her but it looks like asked her the Feaster from afar, the Lord of interstellar spaces the peacock King, zoo, colic Hoth, Johanna is Vanderburg. Yep, hacer the unspeakable the unspeakable Fendrick Dweller in the depths thing in the lake. Him slept beneath and the great prints of the old

Mike

one. Does he really need that many titles?

Jason

You should see the list. The names for nearly

Doug

Yeah, this is tame compared to a lot of the like outer gods like nicknames, even as of the, we did not go over all of His Names. So we did not there 10 times as many. And the reason you get all these names is because these are all the different like stories that he can be associated with. Yep. So if you wanted to know like, who and what in kind of a nutshell

Hastur is. So Hester, the unspeakable is a Cathar Lu mythos deity as we've already explained to you, but although the being is most famously associated with HP Lovecraft, it's only mentioned in one of his stories. And that's the whisper in the darkness,

Jason

which, if you have not read that fucking all, if you like dread read that. It is very fucking good story. If you want to feel like you don't matter. And something is coming to get you. That's that's the story to read.

Unknown

anymore that?

Jason

Well, you turn in the wrong podcast, my guy.

Doug

And it's actually really funny because originally, hacer is the creation of a guy named Ambrose Bierce. Whose short story I don't even know how to say this one. But Aisha is I think, Heisha the shepherd. Basically, he describes hacer as

a god of shepherds. And it's also a name of a city in a Robert W chambers short story called The yellow sign, and the repair of reputations, which appeared in his short story collection, the king in yellow, so you were literally hitting all of the fucking, you're seeing like four of the five, like, four of the four nicknames out of this fucking list that we just like went over. Yeah, just within two people's like, people's stories. You

Jason

could say interpretations. I would prefer to call them recollections.

Doug

Yeah, historical accounts. Yep. But absolutely

Jason

true words that exist in earth.

Doug

Keep in mind, as we've said about a lot of this HP Lovecraft opened up his works to be to the public domain and public domain, but basically, so So HP Lovecraft had this like, weird group of people who also kind of wrote the same sort of shit he was writing at the same time as him that weren't like, they weren't like, technically interconnected, but they kind of were. So this guy, August delyth. He's the publisher and apostle of Lovecraft

Jason

that I think just blew right by that but yes, Apostle. Yeah. Yeah. Have Lovecraft? Yes.

Unknown

I know. Like, he knew about and like accepted, but they think about

Jason

fucking, I don't know Last Supper, like he basically dedication but to Lovecraft

Doug

Yeah, he pretty much worship this guy. Yes. It's a very weird relationship. We could probably do a whole episode on that guy. Oh,

Jason

absolutely. And if you read his fucking his, his works, you can absolutely like you get the the Bible vibes. Like the fucking like, this is my Lord and Savior. Yeah. And his creations are my creations and we love every fucking second of it.

Doug

Which is funny because like, I sprung like 60 bucks on a Bible. Yeah, Lou, I started on that. Yeah, it's very occultist. But yeah, so this August guy, he published the wall. He published a bunch of things, but basically, he developed has turned to one of the great old ones like he's, he's, he's the guy that turned him into a Great Old One. Basically called him the spawn of Yaga Thoth, the half brother of Cathar Liu and possibly I'm gonna butcher this one the Magnum in omen and Diem.

Now that was actually spied on. Or the AW D which I don't understand that whole thing all wheel drive. Yeah, definitely all the all wheel drive version.

Mike

He's the Ford F 150. Cthulhu Mythos guys.

Doug

He's the super so in this incarnation

Jason

to be quite fucking

Doug

fucking dolphin in the room here. So we got so Hastur has several avatars, the Feaster from afar, which is another story, a black, shriveled, flying monstrosity with tentacles, tipped with razor sharp talons that can pierce a victim's skull, and siphon out the brain. This is kind of that typical, like vision of Hastur that you'll see like yellow cloak tentacles at the bottom.

Mike

I feel like that's like typical Lovecraft in general, just a black mass of tentacles and sharp

Jason

and amorphous representation of dark, writhing chaos like yes, yeah, absolutely.

Doug

One thing I will go over later is about some of the different depictions of Hastur I Because I don't want to go there yet. I don't want to go there yet,

Jason

so I should I'm excited d&d. Fuck. Okay.

Doug

Oh, you played through the wars, right?

Jason

Yeah, no, I have not played Oh yeah, no you have I have not I so I have fucking Okay. All right call Cthulhu Alright, well

Doug

yeah, we will get there that'll be that'll be later okay anyways, so yeah no, I love the shit so yeah so we have that and then we have the Carcosa foundation yep is actually a Stockholm based coterie that worships Hastur

Jason

Yeah, it's a call it's the cult of the yellow sign more or less

Doug

so real world things tying into all of this as well and then Hester is a morphus. But he is said to appear as a vast vaguely occupied being similar to his half nice cilia. And that's weird though,

Jason

because like every depiction I've seen of Hastur is more humanoid than, like cephalopod.

Doug

I'll bring this up. I'll I will bring this up for sure. And then the last thing we get with Hester is that and Lynn Carter's Carcosa story about Holly Hester is named as the Dweller in the depths the spawn of Aza Thoth, the half brother of Goethe, which we've already heard once, and the mate of Cheb McGrath. So basically, he was the father of noggin. yabb. Yep. Which is kind of crazy. A little bit crazy. Once we go over those, you'll

understand why that's crazy. But yeah, and he is said to have led the rebellion against the elder gods and receive sacrifices thrown into his leg. So like, he's the black sheep. Yeah, the fucking outer gods. Like is what he is, is so crazy because like I,

Jason

Doug and I are fuck, we are legitimately rubbing our chef's together right now. Fucking exciting this is.

Mike

See if you do that you'll cause a fire and Wake Forest fires. So I

Doug

I really, really love how in depth and how everything connects so well in this fucking universe.

Mike

Yeah, so we kind of have like, was like, three or four other people's like stories kind of.

Doug

So right now we have four people stories, basically, basically creating the mythos of Hastur, which is another great thing that we're going to bring up here quickly, actually. Yeah, they've all

Mike

kind of like, come to a conclusion like he's the half brother of Cthulhu. And they've all decided like, yeah, that's what he is, which is kind of fun. Oh,

Jason

abs a fucking Loli and I'm so happy that Lovecraft love crafts works are deemed like public domain, which it led so many people to expound upon these weirdly horrifying things.

Unknown

Old school, SCP. Yeah,

Jason

I'm so happy. You said that. Oh, so? Because yes, this is like, this is SCP version one. And

Mike

except there's no Russian guy trying to take over? Yes, there's

Doug

no rush you can and kind of like spoilers, but I just thought this was like such a cool fact. So we call this the Cthulhu Mythos. But it was originally going to be the Hastur mythos. Yep. Before it was go through

Jason

Pasteur was supposed to be like, the the the identifying being

Mike

doesn't have the same ring to it as

Doug

it doesn't but HP Lovecraft said the same shit. He's like, nope. Because Sue says Cuellar Yeah. At 100% Does

Jason

like realize I'm convinced that that's really the only reason that Guthrie Liu has gotten so popular because like, I love Cthulhu to death, but oh my there's so many more beings in this mythos

Mike

that are it's also because way better back then. You know, this is one like the 20s

Jason

Oh, no. 18 918 80s Yeah. Now he was back to 98 to like 1905 ish. Yeah, he died in 36.

Mike

What's scarier than a giant, you know, winged octopus thing from the definitely ocean rather than a man that loves yellow, you know? Comparatively, creatures.

Jason

I'm sorry. What do you say? sea creatures.

Unknown

They're horrifying

Jason

holiday fuck have you seen in a fucking angler fish?

Mike

Yeah, they're awful.

Doug

Matt, do you have fasula phobia?

Unknown

Yes, I am subscribed to that subreddit. Okay, I figured a lot of Yeah, and there's a another one oh sub mechanics. Oh, yes.

Doug

Oh my god. I really actually watch a lot of Disney YouTube things about that. And like some of those mechanical things in the water or fucking terrifying.

Jason

Hey, Matt. Have you ever heard of a game called Sunless Sea? No. I would pay money to watch you play that game. It's fair by most people's expectations. cuz it's pretty tamed with some very creepy factors to it very Lovecraftian tactics to it, but with somebody who's afraid of shit like that, yes, I would absolutely pay money to watch somebody stream that game and be terrified of it. So if you have a chance to check it out and you want to send us a funny video, there you go.

Unknown

Okay, yeah, well, maybe I'll horrify myself for your amusement later, but I'm sorry. I've derailed this whole thing.

Jason

No, you're fine. I might finance that, because I want to see it. That's kind of the you know, the names we know Hastur by there's a bit of inspiration and like all things love craft in its it. origins are shrouded in fucking mystery. There's no concrete answer to any one being that you could find in this mythos. But this is kind of like a couple of the a couple of the places that you can find some very, I don't know, ancient

information about him. So in Bierce, is how should the shepherd which appeared in the collection? Can such things be, of course, Hester's more benevolence? And he would later appear in August earless the mythos stories, which is very, very, very strange to me, because he, almost every depiction I've seen with him, at least recently has been similar to Neolithic. I hate to keep going back to Neil Neil off the top, but like Hastur in New Orleans, that could be half

brothers. Oh, absolutely. Like very easily.

Doug

I mean, when you think of Hastur you think of like, desecration. Yeah. And like,

Jason

rot decay? Yeah. The end of things. I mean, you just look at a picture of him. Like he's wearing this, this tattered, decrepit yellow robe with melting tentacley features, like, kind of poking out of where his face should be, but the rest of his blackness and it just, it's all about death and decay. Yeah, he's what hacer is all about.

Doug

It's like if a bunch of toddlers stacked on top of each other, and they're wearing a trench coat, but in this case, it's just like a bunch of tentacles, like stacked on top of each other, are made of

Jason

tend to try to get

Mike

into a PG 13 movie, and they just can't do it. Yeah, exactly.

Jason

And then you find out they're actually raccoons and it's a whole thing. And then the raccoons are made of tentacley nightmare species,

Unknown

and ugly slapping their fake ID on the counter.

Doug

Sir, why is your ID covered in slime?

Jason

So? I'm glad that you're creating a new Hesser origin story. Or at least teenage years mythos for him? Yeah. Um, but no. So like, he's he was originally thought of as like this benevolent being that brought good fortune, good omens, what have you. There's another story that we've already mentioned, named inhabitant of Carcosa, referred to the place of Carcosa as a person, Holly, which later names author or sorry, which names which later? What the fuck does that say?

Doug

It says names which later authors were to associate with Hastur. So Carcosa and hell, Holly, right? Yes. You got it?

Jason

Yes. That just fucked me up a lot. No, it's

Doug

written very weird.

Jason

It is. So basically, what this is saying is these.

Doug

So remember, what I was basically saying, is hacer a person is place? What is Hester? A lot of the stories that we get, they interpreted differently. There's no description of him up at this point. Like, we don't know what he looks like, because in classic HP fashion, it's it's undescribable and speakable. Yes. So there was a lot of debate for a long time on what hacer was. And that's, that's the words in which Jason was trying to say,

Jason

I apologize. I have had a lot of shots and reading is hard.

Doug

No, that is, but that was written very well, but also hate it

Jason

that's written by an intelligent person right now. So we are also going to talk about a very old story actually was before love crafts time. In 1895, which is a few years before Lovecraft actually got into writing. You see a story called The King in yellow. And it's actually a collection. And you it's a bunch of horror stories and Hastur is the name of a potentially supernatural character in Yep, not gonna try that. Yeah, no, that's

Doug

a weird name.

Jason

It's a French word. It's a French name. And

Mike

we'll say demo silly.

Doug

Demo. Say no, say

Jason

it sounds more Japanese. I

Doug

don't know. Yeah, I really do.

Jason

I'm not gonna fucking I'm Not going to offend a whole culture by trying to. So let's just move on. There's a story all about the king in yellow in 1895. And it's mentioned without explanation in another story called The yellow sign. And the latter of those two also mentions Carcosa, Holly, and a bunch of other authors that you might recognize in the Cthulhu Mythos. So

Doug

this actually ties into what I was just saying about we don't know if he's a person, place or thing. Because basically, we get the name of him. And then we get the name of him as a place. Yep. And then he's mentioned without explanation, and another story, just yellow sign. And from there, it's just like, what, what is Hastur? Like, what? Like, is he he thing that ties like what we don't know. No fucking

Jason

idea.

Doug

So once Lovecraft

Mike

didn't come up with the Hastur, he just kind of pronounced

Jason

founded on Honestly, you're gonna that's gonna be a theme that you see here. Love crypto, he

Mike

stole work from other people. No, he

Doug

worked with them,

Jason

correct? Yes, he worked with a bunch of people. And he basically took it very, very minor parts of stories, names, places, etc. With no backstory attached to them and said, You know what? This would look good if it were made of tentacles and came from 40 billion light years

Doug

away. And actually this this next part is

Jason

we're giving over giving Matt existential dread.

Doug

He's over here just like oh, sitting on the toilet like me and like,

Unknown

yeah, yeah, that's just like my worst nightmare.

Jason

Why? Why are you on with us right now? This is

Unknown

starting to regret all my decisions. Minute by Minute.

Doug

Well, let's keep this train going. So what so he just explained kind of like where the idea of Hastur came from,

Jason

which again, was not originally loved. It was

Mike

a story called The yellow sign. The yellow

Doug

King kilos an excerpt before sign or horror, horror signs, horror stories.

Jason

Yeah, and that mention of the name Hastur at one point in one of seven stories, very loose.

Doug

So love crafts vision, actually went a little differently than this whole thing started off. So HP Lovecraft read Chamber's book in 1927 and he was so enchanted by it that he basically added it to his own creations. However, it's

pretty unclear. From this quote, If love crafts have Hastur as a person, a place or an object which we you're going to keep seeing this theme the yellow sign, yep, such as the yellow sign or a DD the M. The ambiguity is recurrent and love crafts description of the mythic entities. So here we go. This is

a quote from Lovecraft. Yes. After stumbling clearly upon the hellish and forbidden book of horrors, the to learn among other hideous things which no sane mortal should know that this talisman is indeed the nameless yellow sign handed down from the accursed cult of Pasteur the primordial Carcosa where of the volume

Jason

treats

Mike

Wow, doesn't that sound mysterious and unnamed and weird, right? Wow. So undescribable so undescribable I'm still not sure if this is a person place or thing is this huge adjective.

Jason

Or an adverb adverb a person

Mike

place or thing.

Doug

Please don't assume it's pronouns.

Mike

Adjective person, place or thing.

Doug

Why am I thinking of like, What's that old fucking show?

Jason

With deathmatch? Tool Time

Mike

chalk zone.

Doug

Keep going. I like it. This is going well. The opposite way of where I wanted to go. But I really do enjoy hearing all the old legend of the

Mike

Hidden Temple. Hey,

Jason

that's Lovecraftian as fuck

Doug

Absolutely. No, but it's like that show with the bill on the front steps and

Jason

Schoolhouse Rock School. Is

Doug

that what it is? I wanted to say that black or Black Jack Jack blacks movie? School of Rock School of Rock. No, not that. Anyways, getting back on the topic.

Mike

Black Jack's movie us School of cock.

Doug

Yeah, I've seen that. For sure.

Unknown

Yeah, that was the only streaming

Doug

exclusively after this. All right, Jason. Put your cock away. Anyways,

Jason

I'm in my own house. I can do what I want. That's fair.

Doug

I can't stop you, I guess. Okay, so, that being said, now that I've read that amaze Seeing undescribable quote, basically the supernatural horror and literature discussing the yellow sign and chambers, the yellow sign, the only mention of Hastur is we spoke of Hastur and of Casilla. So judging from these two quotes, which that latter quote was very short, very, and didn't bring a whole lot to the table, seven

Mike

words, it was just we spoke of Hastur and of Kasota. But and

Doug

that's the thing they don't mention him that often. That's,

Jason

that's Lovecraft that's just so you're gonna hear just suddenly last name all over the fucking place. There are only like three stories that have anything to do with him. And that's

Doug

the thing with like, a lot of the HP Lovecraft like mythos characters, like you have these big giant stories, but the stories have like very little to do with these, like big names that we know and love. And it's because they're so sad. Like, they're like such a small part of the book. But they're like that part of the book that like, hooks, you exact part that makes you afraid of what's happening.

Jason

The one thing that Lovecraft has said time and time again, is that he brings these names and beings into existence not to like, give explanation about them. But to more give you like a focal point in where to put your dread. Yeah, exactly. Like, you have a name to think about now. Well, I don't know what it looks like, you don't know what it's going to do to you.

Mike

To me, it always seemed like that, like the name comes up suddenly enough to where it's like that like thing that's always kind of peering over your shoulder and in essence that you can it's like out of reach. Yep. You know? Oh, yeah.

Jason

It's I mean, if you've seen the newest rendition of color out of space that's like that. That picks up on what you're supposed to feel like when you are reading Lovecraft stories

Doug

perfectly. It does a great job of making you as the viewer feel helpless. Yeah, insane, stupid. It brings sanity, like sanity is a huge part of this mythos. And like, keeping that sanity and feeling like, you know, like, I don't even know how to describe it. There's it's, it's undescribable isn't it weird?

Jason

How you can describe it?

Unknown

That's just fucking great. That's exactly what I needed to add. On top of my fear of sea creatures was the looming sensation that they're always looking over my shoulder. Oh,

Mike

there's constantly a great white shark right behind you. Can't see

Jason

great. Matt, have you listened to our our disturbing sounds episode?

Unknown

No. Does it have throat noises? Because I'm always

Jason

all of our episodes have at least some throat noises because shots. Bias has deep sea noise it has. If you would like to find a noise to be terrified of go ahead and listen to that, because

Unknown

Oh, yeah, I have listened to that, actually. Oh, yeah. No, I think I just blocked it out of my memory. Because

Jason

that makes sense. Because the Bloop is terrifying.

Mike

Bloop. Bleep. Where are we at?

Doug

I was gonna do well noises but then I realized how late it was. And I don't want to piss anyone off. But the last thing so basically, with these quotes that I just read, it's quite possible that HP Lovecraft not only recognized Hastur as one of the mythos gods, but even made him so recalling what he read in chambers book. So delyth Once entered, actually, this is this is what I was talking about earlier, when durley actually recommended to HP Lovecraft that the mythos be called the Hastur

mythos. And then HP Lovecraft was like Nah, bro. Because you bruh He said those exact words. That's a quote from HP Lovecraft dog. said, Nah, fuck you, dog. That was exactly the words that he said. So,

Mike

to quote Lovecraft, that's a no for me.

Doug

I love that quote, as my favorite call from HP Lovecraft. But yeah, that's that is kind of HP Lovecraft version of Hastur and how it became to be in what we love as the Cthulhu Mythos I

Mike

would say, listening that his version isn't much different from the original because we still haven't established if it's a person, place or thing, Riley so we I feel like we haven't gotten anywhere yet. To

Doug

be fair. After what Jason's about to go over. I have a couple things I want to talk about on what Hastur is in my mind, and we'll go from there. So

Mike

it seems like right now from the mythos again, because we can't like solidify of it's a person place or thing that hacer is just sort of like an idea. It's this like idea of just I'm assuming some sort of like horror. So actually, I might be like some sort of like looming horror, you don't know what it is, but you know, it's bad here.

Jason

Okay, here's, here's how you you should think of Hester Hastur is like the aftermath of a dream that you can't remember that you have you have a feeling that you kind of know that you've experienced this thing. However, you can never know for sure.

Doug

Hester's like sleep paralysis. Yes,

Jason

it's a thing that you see, but can't do shit about,

Doug

but you don't know if it's real. And then when you wake up, you're still not sure if it's a real. But you're pretty sure that the thing happened. But you almost know for sure that it didn't they dropped it. Like he was yes, that's the best way I could describe what Hastert does.

Jason

It even behaves the same way. Like he slips in and out of reality, like

Mike

we really

Unknown

hit it. Well, it's a no we say he. Yeah, it's

Jason

like, yes. Well, let's

Doug

see. Yeah, that's fair. No, no, it's

Jason

Lovecraft. So it's, uh, he?

Mike

Well, no, I just mean, like, again, we don't know if it's a person, place or thing?

Doug

Well, yes. Correct.

Jason

I was more into the fact that love crafts a sexist, racist piece of shit. But we sure you all agree on that. I feel like we just need to say at least once on these episodes, that we recognize that

Mike

as long as you know, we recognize that he

Jason

very cynical views of the public domain

Mike

aspects are probably the better aspects.

Doug

Oh, 100%. And as I will continually say he is the product of his time, unfortunately. And

Jason

that was not a good time.

Doug

Where can we find Hastur?

Jason

So this might sound very otherworldly, very, very esoteric. It's it almost sounds like we're talking about a religion that no one else might be involved in. Not true. It's, you can actually find him all over pop culture, especially nowadays. 100% it he's fucking everywhere, even if you recognize it or not. He'll appear outside the Kung Fu mythos constantly. I know. Okay, I forget the fucking name of the anime that basically gives every single Cthulhu Mythos deity like

a human persona there. I cannot remember the interesting.

Unknown

I think that just might be tentacle porn, buddy. Yeah.

Jason

I do own four copies of Fisherman's Wife so that you couldn't be right. So has just he's both a god and a family in Marion Zimmer Bradley's dark over series, which I'm not very familiar with at all.

Doug

I am also not familiar with that. Well,

Jason

not not even remotely. I'm assuming it's akin to the Twilight series. Just by the name.

Doug

Sure. We'll go with that. Cool.

Jason

Honestly, he's in a fuckload of books, a fuckload of books. And there are people that have expounded on his nature, his origin, his personality that people have given him like a human persona at some point. He is in the Doctor Who mythos though, and that's one of my that's one of my favorite crossovers.

Doug

It's just want to say you skipped over Good Omens by Neil Gaiman. And I'm upset that you did that. Yeah. I don't care about that. Neil Gaiman is such a fucking phenomenal writer. We have to give him some credit.

Jason

Okay. Give me one of the words that he he

Unknown

worked on Sandman.

Jason

Oh shit. Yeah. So in good omens by Bucky right

Mike

James McAvoy is so

Jason

bad at names. Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman. Hacer is a Duke of hell becomes trapped in answer in an answering machine, which honestly is offensive to Hester. If we're being honest. He either escapes when I tell him a telemarketer phones and promptly devours the entire staff of the telemarketing office.

Doug

It's it's pretty quality. Send me that because like, I'll try and find that okay. Because they do a good job. They do something and you'll you'll just just keep going keep going

Jason

just yet, please. He's in Doctor Who? Not not the show. Unfortunate. I mean, you can definitely find him in the show. If you look, there are definitely traces of him all over the place. But there's a novel all consuming fire and he equates Hastur with Fendrick which if anybody knows who Fendrick is, was Fendrick the fucking giant wolf No, that's that's Fenrir Fenrir that's what I'm thinking. That's the Nordic God devil thing

Doug

to look Fendrick up exactly. So nobody here knows who No because I got you bro shut your mouth. Then Rick, actually can I get a Can I get a rips off and wreck real quick? wreck? There we go. Finn Rick TARDIS wiki here we go Fendrick also known as Hester the unspeakable a Bluefin ran the wolf, the hunger, immensely powerful sentient force that was at least as old as the universe itself and intelligence of pure evil later had been identified

as the greatest one. Yeah, it's It's certainly no it was up. It's based

Jason

on from what you just said, I feel like Fenwick and Fenrir are very closely related.

Doug

It definitely sounded like they were trying to go with that, right. That's I haven't read this doctor who novel I'd have watched all of Doctor Who but

Jason

I have not read the novel. Yeah. So it sounds like they're trying to go with the big ol Wolf Fenrir but in yellow, I guess, the

Doug

British version,

Jason

you can also find Hastur in Stephen King, the Stephen King short story, grandma. You're gonna make me say this. Grandma. Right. I'll fucking read it. The titular grandma, he said to invokes Hastur to impregnate her when she is found to be incapable of having a child. Oh, no. Yeah, it's not great. It can be made to sleep by being told to you ready? Lie down in the name of Hastur as this is

Doug

like, this is literally interview Asha. Sit boy. Oh, fuck.

Mike

Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, right.

Doug

Pretty much it just kind of clicked now actually. But that's exactly what I was thinking of lying down in the name of Pastor not sit boy.

Jason

You can find Hastur on Amazon Prime if you page Yeah, he's got his own channel, not a sponsor? No, it's a BBC adaptation of good omens feature and features Hastur from the book

Mike

and a features leave a tenant.

Doug

That's David Tennant, from Doctor Who

Jason

writes and that's the crossover there. I feel like all of these little connections are purposeful. You know what I mean? Because if if you looked on these bullet points, like this one and this one and this one and this one they all have like it's like a daisy chain.

Mike

I haven't been looking because I want to I want to use every time you you talk about the pop like culture reference. Jason keeps like pointing at me. I'm like, I want to know if I get Mike.

Jason

Mike this one this one is for you. This is absolutely for you. Are you ready?

Doug

Real quick if you if you're gonna finish this one. Tell us how so as opposed to the comic. Good Omens tell us how he shows up in the show. Because I think it's hilarious

Jason

are you talking about this right here? The

Doug

very bottom yes yeah, right there.

Jason

So opposed the comic? If you were to watch this show, you would see Hastur appear I don't enjoy this Doug.

Doug

I think is hilarious.

Jason

Okay, he he appears as a sentient blob of very strong coffee phenomenon and based on what we've heard so far that's but

Doug

but he's made from what the still use nest

Jason

still this use NET better does. Anybody here remembers using it? Yeah, probably me.

Mike

I'm very curious if whoever worked on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy had some part of the good omen show? Because it sounds like that same type of British humor.

Doug

Well, it'd be Douglas Adams but you don't need

Jason

Matt Do you have any info on this is are these two related at all?

Unknown

Well, no, I don't know. I was saying set me up and I just disappointed

Jason

Okay, here let's

Mike

What do I just mean like whoever was like in the writing room, but not the books but the movie The best

Jason

thing about Hollywood Enagic is I can go back and erase all of this. Place this with a very confident and strong answer if you'd like no.

Doug

Well, to be fair, the next the next thing is the next one is my You're cute. That's

Mike

totally okay. Mike Love Dragonball Z really is Yeah, it

Doug

is Dragonball Z. Now he is Goku. I'm a pastor's Goku.

Jason

I'm you heard it here first people whoa, Mike. I'm gonna give you your blue balls release in the the universe of the SCP Foundation.

Mike

Oh, we might cover my containment corner.

Jason

Oh, we absolutely are.

Doug

I hope so.

Mike

So who Wait wait wait wait wait don't tell me who is it?

Jason

Is it there's no number attached here is the actual name is it I don't think you know that

Mike

is a person place or thing

Jason

that's a person that's a hard question because it's at least two of those things you just Scarlet

Doug

King no no as far as this goes I would say this is a person is he give it a

Jason

to help person that turns into a place which doesn't help you at all. Oh hang on. No

Doug

no hang on. There's so many SDPs I was

Mike

the overeasy that that celestial like that star

Jason

no. Oh no good yes.

Doug

Actually.

Jason

The one rep said Jupiter yeah

Mike

now is

Doug

that's a great guest is yes sir is very strongly connected to the stars he Jupiter not Jupiter folk There's a joke somewhere

Jason

well we're finding it so the Hanged Man Yes actually holy shit

Doug

yeah, you got it

Jason

that I cannot believe you fucking just got

Mike

three like cosmic dudes in Sep that are in warfare.

Jason

But the Hanged Man is the Hanged king.

Mike

Oh shit. Yeah. That was close. Yeah, of

Jason

all i gotta but that part is really doesn't matter. But yes, the Hanged king and he is okay that makes them based on Hastert and the king

Mike

because the Hanged king can't that like transport util some mythic fuck what's the hang? Kings fucking

Doug

Ah, you got it, bro.

Mike

The Kings mythos is like, it's a stage play. Yeah,

Doug

this whole thing is based on a play. Yes. Yeah. The king in yellow. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The

Mike

thinking is some stage play and it's whoever plays him the don't don't give too much away when I was like the sometimes with the audience or the the

Doug

accept everybody actors aren't really watches the play? Yeah. Oh, their penises?

Jason

Oh, yeah. No, the actors are all the same thing. And we'll go over it.

Unknown

so confused.

Mike

Yeah. Before we're trying to

Jason

hash out SCP. Well, that

Mike

makes more sense then. Yes. Cool. Okay.

Doug

The last brings us back to our saying you figure you

Jason

figure it out. Yeah. The one that the three of us might be most well versed in Nome is Fantasy Flight Games. Hey, Mike. You're playing mentioned the madness with me. That one or two times? Yeah, yeah, he's in that I figured out he's in eighth literally. Fantasy Flight Games basically focuses on Lovecraft and because he was mythos and basically just brings it to life and you're gonna find Hastur all over this

Doug

was that find them in games like Arkham Horror, or Eldritch Horror or?

Jason

And cinematic?

Doug

Are there any madness?

Mike

Are there any more that you're trying to surprise me with? Or is the SCP one the only good one? Oh, that's

Jason

as far as I know. That's the only SCP so I can read this

Unknown

with full Oh, yeah.

Doug

Yeah. So real quick to touch on the board game thing and this is why I associate pastor in my mind with how I do is there's a Peter ball actually, no, that's not the correct person. So there's a game called Cthulhu wars and in Kung Fu wars basically you can be Hastur and a bunch of other people but if you play as Hastur Hastur is actually its own outer God or old one or whatever you want to call it. And he actually comes with a secondary lesser

god named the king in yellow. So while you're playing his Hastur you're actually controlling the king in yellow while you play him. And that is like ingrained in my brain was that he is there to separate beings but there's one celestial God controlling one

Jason

end Do you know that our planner God well, okay, the major theory around that Do you know who that is? I'm not sure actually. Honestly, it's pretty obvious shrimp Lee Pyro loaded up No. Okay. I wasn't sure I mean that's a good that's a good yes. Okay. Okay. That makes it about it now the key in yellow is a product of as a Thoth dreamin and yes shares controlling both of those share

Doug

share I that's all I had. I just thought it was funny if it would be sharing Michael Jackson but no dynamic duo but the fact

Jason

that inside as ethos dream Hastur is controlling the king in yellow is very ironic to me, because he's not and one of the things you're gonna find out about Hastert is that he much like near the top he's like the one of the black sheeps of the outer gods. Oh, Have the Cthulhu Mythos like, he doesn't follow orders well, he kind of goes by his own wills and desires which change fucking minute to minute. He's very very very haphazard.

Doug

I'm actually really curious to where he was at some of these like giant wars that happened like what was Hastur doing?

Jason

I have a fucking fanfiction for you. Yeah, it's all about World War One and two. Oh, and it Oh, it's so good. So good. I'll send it to you. It's fine. I don't know aside from the so pop culture side. Let's move on to something a bit older. I don't like the classical Greek gods Roman gods. Yeah, you should do that. Yeah, so Hastur is kind of been passed in the book has kind of been equated to Saturn or Cronus Greek Roman like, is that a disease? Yes. Oh, very much so

cool. And I have come down with it hardcore.

Mike

Why Kronos? Cronus why? Cronus?

Jason

Because those are the same names but in Greek and Roman.

Mike

Well, wasn't Cronus the one that is like cursed to hold the earth on his shoulders? No, that's Prometheus. No, it's not from the heat made fire. Oh, you're right. Oh, no. Atlas. Yeah.

Doug

I was thinking of

Jason

Sisyphus

Mike

Yeah, this is Cronus is I'm done.

Jason

Just mute no mic. bonuses. Zeus Croesus Zeus his father just as far as a titan slash god yeah just

Doug

kills I can only hold one set of Gods so correctly I can't Cronus was actually

Jason

he was

Mike

he was sent to Saturn eight his son that's right there yeah. Painting

Jason

in Cronus was sentenced to walk Fuck What does it was it?

Mike

He was Gobi? Yes, the

Jason

Gobi Desert.

Mike

Like I swear to God, he had like,

Jason

Deus he had. He carried the labyrinth on his back. That's what it was.

Mike

Yeah, he had to like bear the weight of something. Yeah, the weight of the world. Deus is the one God dammit.

Unknown

And that's different from Kratos who was the god of war. Okay,

Mike

well, Kratos is technically made up but he is but he also they do kind of do some accuracies to it because you do come up with the mythos

Jason

is pretty fucking accurate and it was games or bar. Boy. Interestingly, there was a Roman got a phlox called Paulus. Although not directly related to the word pallid, it's possible that it shares the same entomology from pipe hell. Gray. Interestingly, Paulus was associated with the star police Ium I'm not sure why this is in this outline.

Doug

You put it there

Jason

you are correct. Oh fuck police Ium I'm thinking through

Doug

you we're very excited about that. So I that's why I put this in there originally, I think because I did not understand mean either

Jason

and ology courses, okay, hold on. Give me a sec. Okay. The only thing that I remember or my Greek mythology professors saying silence means consent.

Doug

I took so many history classes in college.

Mike

I don't think traveling Yeah, you're you might want to alert

Jason

me that I don't agree with it. Some

Unknown

references. So many places tonight?

Mike

No means yes. It silences Yes. as

Jason

well. That means yes, and yes means no.

Unknown

Let's just say oh, wow.

Jason

Let's just Let's just say

Mike

that your focus professor was fucked. Oh, yeah,

Jason

absolutely. But he backed his his statement up by saying, I don't think that that's what Zeus thought, which explains why he was funny children and him fucking a goose. But he also like he turned into a cow and like, ran somebody out to see as a cow just to fuck them. Which there's questions about that.

Doug

How many gooses Do you know?

Jason

Like personally?

Doug

Yeah, just on our first day.

Unknown

We meet on Thursday nights.

Mike

I have marmalade the depressed goose. We talked about marmalade Yeah, it was goose me Laurie came up backstory. Oh yeah, that's right. Tattered, fucking depressed. A goose that gives you bad advice and bad news all the time. Like, you know how a star stork brings by a baby baby. He goes by just like oh, it's like the bad news. Goose. Yeah, marmalades here. What's wrong? It's like, oh, the bad news. It's like, oh my god, Timmy stuck in a well, he's like, oh, and he's like, Oh my

God. There's no ladder to get them out

Doug

to Los

Unknown

like II or the goose essentially.

Mike

Yeah. You just any any type of bad news. He's the one to deliver it to you instead of giving you the good news like a stork and a baby. All right.

Doug

Do you have a good way out of this? Fuck, dude,

Mike

I got one. So it's cool. Pelle keum it looks like Yeah. Elysium police yum. I prefer my version Polycom when no one else sounds like a single K in that word sounds like periculum which is a Harry Potter spell that shoots red sparks out of your one.

Doug

Where can where can people find us Mike?

Mike

They can find us on the magical website that is linktree.com/delivery pod patreon.com/delivery pod. You can look into the internet anywhere.

Doug

If I have to say that we just bird scooter the shit out of the end of an episode harder than we ever have before

Jason

my brain.

Unknown

Versus a bird scooter that was just like a dump truck

Jason

it was it was a dump truck full of bird scooters. It just ran over our points. Exactly. That's what happened.

Mike

If this doesn't prove how our show is.

Jason

We get drunk we talked to people who like us. And that's about it.

Mike

This is the third episode of a four episode binder. So bear with us

Doug

no more fucking we got those in your bag.

Mike

So I just want to say you know hug your cat. Kiss your dog in the mouth. Open it up get that tongue that's all I got.

Jason

It's getting more and more vulgar every time. Also,

Doug

if you're a new man is dying and I am here for

Unknown

Jason's gonna get like like an uncensored because I'm I'm pushed to talk so he's gonna get like an uncensored version of me just like yeah, pretty much

Doug

wait to hear that sound fucking recording from him.

Jason

Again, right I've got another file for me. Fuck I don't.

Mike

Again, we're on a four four episode binder. So like if you're a new patron within the next week. Sorry, you're not on this. Yeah, get right we've got you next time.

Doug

But don't get me your shot class, bro.

Mike

Jason, what do you have to say to the people the beautiful people? Suck my dick. Okay, Doug.

Doug

Very, very elegant. I love it. I love where you're going with that. I would say the opposite. I would say blow by blow your deck.

Unknown

And I've learned that I should always be unsure of whether my dreams are real or not. And there's always a creepy sea creature looking over my shoulder

Mike

shitting your tongue?

Jason

Boy, Mike is the creepy sea creature who's

Unknown

like this is this is perfect fan art in the making. Just like holy shit. Like a squid person Mike just

Jason

I just pictured the fucking the dad from squid bellies with Mike's face. You know just shitting in tubs. Oh

Mike

my god

Jason

my fucking face.

Doug

Oh. Did you even plug us one one episode one.

Mike

They get what we're about duty podcast. You plug us by.

Doug

Yeah, you figure it out.

Unknown

Around gets out of here.

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