DLUTI 047 - Junko Junsui

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It sounded like someone threw a ham at a wall and then a bunch of like dogs attempted to bite it.

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You've got your work cut out for your friend.

I don't Okay. Is that what that sounded like? Mike? Yes. Okay.

I thought it sounded more like someone jamming their fist in a tuba while someone farted. And

I think I got the gist more positively.

It sounded like Cooper coins a little bit. Lutie Yes.

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my guy. And I believe both of them give the $10 If I'm not mistaken. So

crispy. Foundation supporter.

That's so awesome. Thank you very much, guys. And thank you very much. Absolutely. You guys are the staples of the deluding economy. staples of the staples. Yeah. And we couldn't do it without you. So I want you both to go up to your closest person to you. Even if you don't know. Just give them a good like feel on the back of the knee. Be like that's from Jason. Do that. No, no, don't

know. I mean, if you feel compelled, but

so so lonely. It looks like you brought something strange here. You

Well, first off, we talked about you said undefined. Yeah, undefined. Cool. Let's go ahead and let Louis go into that little bit.

So yeah. You guys have been good compadres for quite some time here.

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que sabe que me. Yeah. All right. Don't know why I do that. Yes, now I can hear ya far. Um, yeah. You guys have been my friends for quite some time here. But I've also been running undefined graphics for not as long but I've been in the graphics field for quite some time. And pretty much I work with the music industry a little bit with more of the heavier side.

We had dead awake on at one point Yeah, actually yeah.

Dylan Dylan Yeah, the around the Chicagoland area I've worked with. Quite a few metal artists are just all around artists in general doesn't have to strict strictly to that. But um, yeah, just anything from logo design artwork.

He's very fucking talented. Yeah.

Any, any of that stuff in just the past few years. Um, can I do a shout out? Yeah, absolutely. If Chevy is on here, Chevy studios, a while back, got in contact with me and brought me on board with them. Yeah, trying to do photography. And at the time, I wasn't really sure. So we're not really sure but like, I was like, Yeah, I do it but I haven't, like, perfected that. That's not my thing, really. And I asked another shout out real quick to dark

These names you do

weave weave, and then some really heavy hitters in the Chicagoland area hive that awake. I'm tansy in. It was a really good DJ. Devices. Yeah, capital vices. There's some really great bands out there in Chicagoland area. And

you said you, you said you don't do just metal, right. It's like every music. Yeah. Because I know I've seen you take photos for famed oboist Heinz holiday.

And that was because like, staring into his phone that was just

very impressive that you're able to do that. I'm very like, I couldn't believe he got you. Like, that's insane.

Man. He was so oboe. So I didn't

know you could turn that into some sort of verbal.

I didn't know an oboist could solo oboe do that

again. But five times I can never

do that. Solo oboe his solo. Nope.

But yeah, we're Yeah.

Thank you guys for having me. Absolutely. Thank you for being Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, awesome.

I have quite the night ahead of you because we do bonus episode recording.

And a cryptid and encrypted

because I don't work tomorrow. Yeah, recording jobs suck. People don't do them.

The entire day off tomorrow for us. And we're going to squeeze every last ounce.

We'll be squeezing every last day. Speaking of ounces.

Yeah, we take this up. I haven't done this yet. Do it?

Do it. Do it. Do it the right time. Yeah. got excited. I don't know what he's doing. You drink good water. You're

thinking there's a bottle here and it's empty.

Yeah, quiet.

I've forgotten to do that the past like four episodes. You

have to make that more exciting though. Okay. In my in person. It's it's under seven. And that sevens not high. But when you hear it, it's It's

better. It's better. I keep asking him if he wants me to like write him a jingle. And he's like, No,

I just mean you have it is what really sells it. So

what are we drinking?

Somebody we let Louis tell us?

Oh, man, I tried making a funny earlier because I thought I was being clever. I'm like, Man, that's a that's a that's a wheelie horse. And then I realized that's the app. That's the actual name of the bourbon. Um, yeah, Kentucky straight bourbon. And that's how good and that's how good it is wheelie house. Um, let's see here. 50.5% volume. It's also

we're not sponsored by them. So we don't have to go too into detail on it. Yeah, but that's batch number two is fashion number two. That's number

two. Number two. That's kind of Georgia Kentucky.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, wheelhouse. So, delicious

wheel horse just so everyone's on the same page. Riding

for wheelie horse by the chief and for cheaper whiskey.

It's fucking good. Yeah. So it's a $30 Whiskey, to be fair, but Benny has always had a shirt on sale and yeah, it was like, Hey, this is the 19th best whiskey of 2021. So I was like fucking Sindhu

I just bought this stuff that was on sale at Benny's to the other day. Called navigation. Dick juice. Yeah, very close. It's a it's a bourbon. Grab that extra in red wine barrels.

Yeah. Was it like it was a nice little bow.

It was a cool bottle. Yeah.

Was it like almost like octagon or something? It

wasn't like it kind of looked like a martini shake.

Okay, okay,

so weird names. I keep thinking I'm very good. Was it? Weird whiskey would talk. Yeah.

Fuckin Miss wood.

Oh, it's still thing. Well, I know. Well, that when Jason lived, so hold on.

I'm gonna put you on the spot there. Doug. You said this was like 20 $25 And you're now saying 31.

It's 30. But it was on sale for 2490 text. So it's like a shelf teeter teetering on the bottom shelf, but let's fucking

stop talking about it. Let's drink it.

You're low IQ take us away.

Oh, man. Here's you. Here's to me if we ever disagree, because I'm not gonna let our fuck it up. Here's the me. Fuck you.

When you're when he has a clean drink, do you think? Hmm. Dylan delicious. So delicious. This is whiskey. But I kind of pardon me. We thought we should drink vodka tonight. Oh, and I think that

where we're visiting

again, our favorite place once again. visiting Russia in an essence we are we're hearing from them. Yes, sir.

If I can share the name does not say Russia for any reason? No,

there's no honestly, if you read the if you read the title of what we're covering today, you'd think this is Japanese, Chinese, Korean. And yes, it is. There's a lot of elements that go into this one. And unfortunately, a lot of those elements have been lost to the early days of the internet. So without further ado, Mike, what are we doing today?

We're talking about a president that is sitting in front of my face here.

I mean, that's fair. That's absolutely fair.

It's entirely fair. Thank you so much. Louis brought us a gift here. Yes. Got a fucked up snowman on the front.

He runs an offering. So

before we get into our topic, snow he's Orthon

Russia, Russia snow. Ooh, it's all tied together.

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We promise we'll go over exactly what we're talking about a second. So

who wants to open me? Okay.

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and let's see this picture. Frosty way before you try you

let me videotape you opening. Oh, yeah, that's

a good idea.

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Paper. Now it's something a little bit better than that. I feel a frame it's a pic I fucking like that.

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Yeah, Sam, I didn't steal your idea. I totally was like, just I know what they like to Yeah, we're on the same length weighing wavelength. It's a tooth

like its feet were cut off.

Here. Let me take a picture. I'll send it to the discord.

Oh, that poor poor to you did nothing to you Michael. He

just wanted to go and interdimensional

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Thank you so much. You are you You will always be one of our best friends. But we are also very happy that you're testing

more than words can describe. I'm gonna end this video wave bye to the camera.

Thank you so much slowly. You're welcome, guys. Welcome. I absolutely love you. You guys get me through my day. You'll get me through my day.

You know what that's fucking calling for again.

I forgot. Doug is gonna send you this video and you sent me Zarbon porn. Dangerous a fucking czar. checked off by the Dario. Okay, if you're in our Discord, you know.

Well, what topic are we doing a mike?

Junko, John. Sweet. Yes, June co JUCO joins why. Oh, sorry. I auditioned back. I didn't take my Allegro today. Wait, is that the allergy one? Yeah. Okay. I didn't take his name. I didn't take my mind all today. To get out okay. Yeah, this is a fun topic that I which one was it you that brought this one into attention? JC Yeah.

So I actually I found this when I was browsing through our slash args as I do on my birthday, whatever, I'm not doing shit. And somebody was asking a bunch of questions, basically, wondering if somebody could fit the mold for a description they gave about this arg that had to do with a lot of different continents slash countries. And then went over a bunch of the details of it. And I like I was like, Oh, this sounds kind of cool. And somebody put in the the bottom of it like, oh, yeah, this is

you can't find much of anything, you can go on YouTube. Like, there's a video from this channel called inside of mind that we all kind of watch. That's a very good, it's a good half hour video that covers the good basis. So if you want to get more information on this, that's probably one of your best bets, in my opinion, is that sit down watch this 30 minute video, you're gonna get a lot of information out of it. That gives you a pretty good aspect of Yeah, the hell this thing was. Yeah.

Stop listening now. Yeah. Give them the list.

Once again, Zane, you've uh, you've kind of started something here and again, just

for you. Yeah. Well, and I was listening. Hey, hold on. Can I finish my thought? Tumbleweed.

So Zane, like you had said before? This is probably this is honestly between half hour an hour like, oh, yeah, if you just want to go watch one of the overview videos because there's really no content to really ingest directly from this ARG. It's all people's collections of information or tidbits they've picked up along the shot system. Yeah, it's all stuff like that. There is

a other podcasts I was listened to. They're covered it relatively decently to was the red web. I did listen to theirs on this. They had a pretty solid episode on it as well. It's only like 40 minutes long. So yeah, pretty. This isn't something that's,

I wish they'd gone a bit deeper.

I mean, we're not gonna go that deep.

I feel so I feel like we're gonna go a little bit deeper than they are.

But did they start it like when it was at more acne?

This is? Oh, yeah, it was it was about a year ago. This hasn't been active since like, 2014. And even then, it's

like, barely, yeah.

So where do we start, boys?

Well, I think we're gonna go ahead and and start on a little social media platform. Yeah, so look, face. Yes, Bebo? The fucking social media plan zango.

I was gonna say so I have like that Ross.

Faden exterior. My Space. Perfect. No. So actually, so this started this all this whole thing begins with a simple Facebook request. So this Facebook request came through to, I want to say hundreds of 1000s of people pretty much it was a fuckload of and this was on June 17 of 2009. Now, when people got this request, it was from a junco, John sway. But people came to find out that it was actually run by a woman

And this Vera is. If you could describe what she looks like just like a tall blonde kind of

Yeah, in the dark haired, actually, but yeah, which 1am I thinking of?

I don't know. Oh, no. So the Facebook account that would send the requests out did feature a taller blonde woman?

Yeah. Oh, you're talking about the Facebook picture? Yeah, yes. We will definitely get there. We're

just giving a description. No, yeah. tall blonde woman

we know more than you guys. Yes, sorry. i

Yeah, we know a bit more than you guys do right now. So it's gonna be difficult for us to differentiate, but the very first image that people see of anything about Junko Jin sui is this blonde woman's Facebook page under the name of Junko Jen sweet who has been Facebook friending people requesting them and starting to talk to them

in very weird English. Like I went through like a, like a translator bad

at English almost. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

So from this Facebook profile that people start interacting with, we actually start getting links to a A video that lead you to a website of a Chinese Japanese company. Yes, she sends them out, doesn't she? Yeah. Basically it links to a genetic enhancement company by the name of Nippon Shin is Sai. And they

happy that you are in charge

of Nippon is the name for Japan as it's like Japan Health Society see?

Yeah, exactly. It's something like that. So basically that, wouldn't you?

Yeah. Japanese people call Japan napalm. They don't call it Japan.

I've been to Okinawa, not Japan. I literally went to the airport. Gotcha. So you can't

just like brushed it. You were like me? I

was like, hey, Japan, by Japan.

Either way, you're closer than we have been yet. I am still very jealous. Yeah.

Beautiful. Go. It's awesome.

So long story short, this company, basically, when you go to the website that you get this link to, they kind of talk about like the future of human genetics and how they can basically take genes and create perfect humans, in a very lack of sense. Good old fashioned gene

splicing CRISPR is

what you're saying. So yeah. CRISPR CRISPR.

Fame DAC

is my favorite. My favorite part of the fridge. So

like, that's like the baking soda. You keep, like so all your stuff stays fresh. Some people do that.

Yeah, I've seen that in more places than I'd like to admit. Anyway, so getting back on track. They have a video containing a modified human and her name is Junko. So basically,

wait, I thought the Facebook account was Junko?

It is and now we are hitting. Just so everyone is aware we are hitting weird timelines right now. From the time that we get a Facebook post from Vera, we're actually like, I want to say 80% of the way into the story. But from her giving us this link we are now starting at square one. If

so, what you're saying is there's a ton of information still yet to be found. This is just the rabbit hole.

Oh, yes, this is this is where we as the player now get to deep dive into the world that is whatever this is.

Honestly, we after going through the whole thing are still not fucking share my opinions on this. I think we all do. Yeah.

So but their

secrets unless she's a friend with everyone,

like we both just went to, to the quiet. So yeah, we go to this website, and we get this video. And it contains the video is what I'm talking about. The video contains a woman just kind of like sitting around outside and like dipping her hand in the water and like walking around some flowers and but over the video, we get a bunch of like a dub over Essentially, what this company does. Now, I don't have the complete, you know, specific specifics of what this video

to do you want to just give you like a sample of like, what was message to people? I think that would be perfect. Okay. So there's, it's it was not always the same, but kind of the gist of what what was sent out by this account under the name of Jim cogen sway was we do not know one another, not yet. I feel people's ability to share and communicate, it is my effort to allocate my labor towards such people. I have talent that has empathy. Please forgive me for being general. There are

that's that's on the video. The video talks right? That's

right. I said the request message

we were talking Oh, I thought I was talking about a video but either way.

I figured I'd share this before we got too far ahead. Okay, okay. Okay. Yeah. So and it was it was all so the one thing that's always constant with this Facebook request is the very the signature and it's always signed. Bless it be you Junko, yes. Also which if anyone has seen Handmaid's Tale Oh,

I've not actually, if you guys didn't know this also kind of like as she's running this or as she's like, putting this out there. It's kind of you don't really realize you kind of realized sorry, don't but you actually realize that English was not her best language. Yeah, no. Yeah.

That's that's a fan fucking tastic point. Yes, yeah. So we kind of gained the fact that and you can see if you're looking at this message you know that they don't speak English there's no way this is a translator or fucking share just because or it's very broken English things they're just don't line up don't make sense. So you kind of can you know you can understand this person their native language is something other than English which is important for later.

Yeah, but like I guess you get this string of like messages from this person until you finally get this link that gets you to to the video video that we're talking about. And sorry to

backtrack a bit I just I figured I'd give somebody that'd give these people these fantastic people a little bit of clarity when it comes to what the actual rabbit hole for this whole thing that might look like

yeah, like the videos like Doug said or just have like a woman like kind of in like little pond dip your hands in and like yeah, like Cialis commercial kinda. She's like laying in this like bed of what looks like like grass and flowers. It's kind of like a model posing for photography kind of right. And like over it, you get this where they're talking about how they're genetically altering these these women to be like, superior, because we're trying to bring back the gin suey.

Yeah. And that's perfect that you mentioned that is because it's actually where we first hear the term Gen Sui. And we actually kind of get a better understanding of what that term means. Yes. Which for those of you who don't know, the June's we are a genetically modified female who possess 3x chromosomes as opposed to the normal to that females have many strong females from history are actually supposedly linked to this term. They have it's like extreme beauty and charm. Yeah,

they're like a, like a branch off of humanity. Kind of, yeah,

more or less. So just just for everybody's information, this so this whole experience is based heavily in history.

Yeah, here's the should Sawyer like a mythological thing where it's based off something real.

Yes. So there, and it's referenced in like, the messages that you're gonna get from people who are part of the gym suite. And they are, they're self proclaimed that self proclaimed they are, they are staycations, which is a lot of people don't know what that means. And you're gonna see this this word a lot in a lot of different history books, especially when pertaining to like Nazi Germany, because Hitler's like mystic division.

But hence the damn

cool. He should have been looking at Nazi warlocks.

Oh, saying, Well, this is very close to this. So

I know I know that. The Nazis Colton, like the stuff they tried doing with like aliens and their hovercraft, so he did so much so much. There's so much math. So unfortunately,

I got a topic. I'm sorry.

It's okay. That's okay. So this, this version of circulations, which is not we're not going to refer to them as like, the birthplace of the Aryan people. This is kind of this is a this is actually where the word Caucasian comes from. Is it from a region called I think it's caucus or case the caucus mountains? So yeah, it's I don't know exactly how to pronounce it. But it's a region that gives meaning to the word

What happened in 918 64 Do you want me to tell you what happened? 1860 For just the one sentence says it all,

a tragedy began in 1817 when Czarist Russia invaded the house cosas cookout. I'm gonna leave you with a deep dive that yourself

words alone the slogan of diluting the podcast you

fucking figure it out. But no Yeah, so the this this story deals with staycations heavily relies on the history of them. So just to know where they are, where they came from, what they are who they are is very important.

Yeah, that is definitely a stepping stone into this whole whole damn story. And honestly, the more like, when you go through this story, once you're done with everything and you go back and then look up all this shit, it actually makes so much more sense towards the end, which is great. So highly recommend doing a little bit of extra research. Once you're done kind of getting the gist of what this all is, especially if you're listening to us and you're just taking us for our

Very much. I put myself in a weird position. do photography with weird women in the woods? I am a stupid

word. Anyway, so we describe the the I'm sorry, how is it pronounced occasion sister occasions. And the Jin soy kind of is a myth that comes from that kind of correct.

It's it's a it's a sect. So all Jin sui are circulations not all certifications origin. So it's like all screw that makes sense.

All rectangles or squares. And it's

exactly predominantly females. Yes. It's like, well, only females. It's a feminist like movement. Gotcha. Yeah. And it's not even a movement. It's a genetic, and the

chair just so we are supposed to be like Genex attractive, super intelligent prostitutes, women, right?

They I mean, they heard prostitute and strong and I'm confused.

I know that they come wrong. But they come so they come from a line of women who who were prostitutes, but only for basically they would they sought to manipulate men that did because they were so beautiful. They were smart. They were like they had everything going for them. And they understood that like sex is a weapon.

Well, I just made a general note actually, this this is a great segue into the next point of this whole thing. Fuck yeah, taiko basically what happens with this, this this company is they they start what is called the gin sweep project. And this project is a basically an experiment with this set bloodline. So the only problem that they actually come across while experimenting with the genes and the blood of these people, is that they can't get

a way to like do this to where they can't get pregnant anymore. So basically,

what they want to do is they want to grow people. Yeah, they want to make people with this bloodline, because they cannot carry on their own bloodline. And it's kind of crazy to think about right,

sorry, sorry to cut you off there. I thought I actually, no, that's fine. Actually, it was at a stuff. I just thought of something that like so that the website that was shared by Vera Vera. Well, at this point, we we know her is Junko, but fair, we will notice very, very soon, the website that she shared what was it called Nipah.

It was Yep, yeah.

So that one of the things they talk about doing is basically guaranteeing the most like genetically superior

alleles. Yeah, they're very open about it, that it's literally just eugenics.

It's fucking gene picking like you pick which genes you want to go forward and you say fuck everybody else, which is not a good concept, but when doing it like Gene per gene, and you can use this scientifically, especially when advocating for a very, very scientifically advanced companies such as Nippon Shin OSI, who is apparently making genetically superior humans. You can advertise eugenics in such a way that it seems good

well, you know what, Welcome to American politics.

There's a big fucking problem and what you just said is like the magnet that hold Uh huh. Them pesky Russians right into the scene. You're going

metallic here but what I was gonna originally say here is you may the way you say it, like with like picking and how they're trying to make this perfect or not. I don't know what they're trying to do here with their base. Like super soldiers. Right? Okay. Okay, so for that it makes it seem more like as we're, it's not going that direction, but like plant like kind of like we're gonna grow and pay. Yes,

it's like it's exactly like a like growing different plants with like the most superior genes are sick Russia. Russia Yeah, we will get there because

one stone's throw away. Yes. Okay, so

a mysterious company buys out the Japanese company Yes. And we don't really figure out who they are

we don't Well eventually we do eventually we buy At first no we have no

hey guys is written off um I've been wandering around the year for wheat you know I don't really know how to explain most of the things that I've or exactly what I'm looking at right now. There's like this huge building it is big doors and busy guys in it coming in and out of it. In Iraq, it looks like this place is pretty heavily guarded. What? I don't know what to do right now. Exactly. Try to sneak in behind one of these guys because I can't stay out here and for very

though, afterwards, a mystery video was posted. And within that video you see this woman? And yeah, I mean, you would hope for the best but it's kind of like brings a very like ring vibe

to this. Yeah. And honestly, whenever I see video on any arg I never never have hope for the person that starred in

said video. It's just some like, I guess naked woman.

Yeah, it's cold.

There's no happiness

whatsoever. This woman. Honestly, I was very focused on her neck. And it seemed like she was very heavy breathing at times.

She does not look comfortable. She's dead eyes. Yeah,

America's Next Top Model. Yes. Best way to put

Russia is next to

the weird shit you get on like the video?

Yeah, yeah, is shit. So as you're watching the video, there's some links or coding that's like popping up and kind of entails to who the next owner of the company was? Yes.

So basically what happens when these videos get played? You're gonna sit so the first time you see these videos, you're gonna see it's, it's not the woman in the White Room. It's like they had this blue tint and almost looks like it's it's a it looks like a puddle of mud. It really looks like a professional music video.

It looks like What's that song where it's like,

only well, you call dune? Oh, yeah, under

hinder. We're just like very upset. And

how did they get popular off of cheating? Who knows? But so yeah, so what Mike is saying, Sorry, what Lowe is saying, not to confuse how many mics we have in the podcast or two, but only one will? Exactly. Um, so basically this, this video shows up, and you can watch it.

So when you are watching this video, it's giving you a coating and obviously the these kind of coordinates and the coordinates are actually in lining together. If you were to put them together, one's going from like Russia and one's going from Australia and forgot what the other one was. Yeah, if you were to put them together, you pretty much would have a solid straight line. Straight through

like the like, center like well, I guess any point is the center.

Tearing the earth in half. Yeah,

you can make infinite points on a sphere by just hand rotating the sphere.

Fair enough. Anyway, sorry,

go. So we're

putting in the coordinates and you're getting that straight line. And

then that's the first time you watch this. But

yeah, so it's not really giving you too much information off of that. So yeah, there's going

it's just like a done lady. Yeah, she seems like she's in like again or something.

Yeah, yeah. Again, this video shows this somebody in prison or like socially,

I want to say you don't. It's just a lady like, it kind of looks like she's like she's nude. She's told Oh, and she looks upset. And then you're getting these coordinates a

lot of Yes, exactly. Yeah. So after getting all this and everything, if viewers were to actually go back and rewatch the video just to kind of like, Hey, I didn't get that. Let me write that back down and everything, they would actually get a new link that would provide

them shit. So they can't see the same video after you're done. Oh,

no one time use and then the rest is all. Yeah.

So what do you what do you see? We got to watch it again, then

you're actually being provided a new link to a Google page. And this Google page is not what it seems. Is it?

Is I mean, it's from what i Okay. So from what I'm looking at right now, it does not look very obvious as to what you're supposed to do with this information.

Well, I mean, from what we're looking at, it looks like Avatar a little bit. Avatar?

Well, no, the the foreground it looks like a command prompt. Yeah, like it? Yeah, it's coding. Yeah. If you're, if

you are keen on what you're looking at that kind of for programming and stuff like that, that's definitely well, you definitely,

you definitely get what looks like coding. And then if you just glance at the coding, and you look a little deeper, you see two were a couple words that stick out. But the main two are Z, and enemy. Hmm. Guess what happens if you try to click on that? You die.

Yeah, I was gonna say, Oh, yeah.

Get opened up to Google. Yes. What do you think is Google

but then it does a kickflip. In Google.

If you in this, like in this Google that pops up for this Google page, if you type in the words, the enemy, it does said kickflip. Yeah. And then you're in just anti Google

is taking you to a world called Deep Dive of alpha.

Since alpha center Alpha center. Yes. What is alpha center? Mike?

What isn't it?

It's not corn. It's Not Butter center

center. It takes us back to like some Lake City quiet hills. Shit. It's kind of like a paramilitary place. It's pretty much like oh, yeah, we we provide guys with combat experience. And if you want to join us, you can apply and you actually could

to put it like it's a Russian security. Yeah.

It's a Russian security real thing in Russian paramilitary could it's technically not real. No, go for him at the end. But well, I mean, this, this part of it is this part. But it Yeah, it's Russian security. But you, you can apply for it. There's a little like Help Wanted section give you

an idea for the website that you're going to for this ends in the words.ru? Yeah, it's alphas it's I think it's like alpha center.ru or something like that.

The way that it's spelled is interesting, too, because it's not Alpha center is Russian. It's alpha, like the way we know what a L pH A. But then center is T S, E N T R. Yep. So when you type in alpha central center into the fake Google, at least this footage of a woman in this like Google,

so hold on, wait, is it in a way is just Google? You're right. So when you're getting into that is, is it a new woman though? Or is that woman from

prior? It's the woman from prior? Okay, the ones in the videos that we've just seen. So if you go back to those videos that gave you that error code that says the enemy in it, if you click on the enemy, again, you get that Google Site, do a former voice. Google site. If you type in now, instead of typing the enemy, you type in alpha center, you'll get these videos of this woman in this white room. She is it's like a four by four room or so it's very small. Yeah, it's tiny. And it's like,

you get like, think of it like a crate, like a sane asylum room. Yeah. And you get what you get, like 115

minute video of her a day. Yeah. And if you it's like it's kind of like a live stream where you can go in at a certain time and you'll miss stuff previously, if you don't come in at the proper time. Very fucking weird. But this woman we find out her name is Raya. And she is a living June sweet, taken by this alphabets into your company.

To weird the timing of all this is very fucking strange. It's very strange. And I was actually just going to say that because I saw the excited look.

So, hey, we can assume that this is the missing sister from the original Facebook messages that we were seeing from Vera. Yep. Not only is are we seeing this footage now. But it's gonna lead us into a topic that we're not even going to talk about yet. Which, like, god dammit, the timing on this whole thing is fucking crazy. Very well done, actually, now that I think about it for how quickly

this the lifespan of this thing lasted. It's done incredibly well.

Yeah, it's very weird. It's very weird, actually. And actually, we that this is, this is probably like, this part of the actual story is probably like, three to three months into it, which is like, basically the lifespan of this whole thing. And this is where we actually get a super fucking pivotal thing that happens in the story, which is what is called Alpha archive.

Yes. Where the whole fucking This is where the whole story gets flipped on its fucking head. Yeah.

Mike, you have a bunch of details on Alpha archive, right?

Not on the archive itself was something that came from it.

Okay, so real quick. So everybody listening, basically, alpha archive is an app that just basically appeared on the app store for iPhones. Yep. I don't know if there was ever a Google Play. Basically, what's up?

I haven't read anything about there have an Android version? Yeah, I saw that they had the app. And

I think it was also for people that as they were diving deeper and deeper into this, were given to them because they actually lost. There was a lot of people that got scared. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah. Like people were legit.

That's it. That's actually this is a very good time to bring that up. Because

so the Alpha archive is kind of like the last, like bit of information we get from this, that like, it's the key to the puzzle, it gives us more and more information.

It seems like yeah, so real quick, what you were gonna say about

how being terrified of this whole thing? Yeah. So this, if anybody listening has ever heard of Junko Jones, Wii U, the first thing you know about it is that it is the most controversial internet phenomenon that has happened in this kind of context. And there's a couple of reasons for that. The biggest one being is people who were actively trying to, like, get to the bottom of this and solve it, were heavily,

shit. Well, one of the sorry, I don't mean, go ahead. One of the information, or one of the things that turned a lot of people away was their, their, the app itself or someone was actually being able to get their information and to spill it like so like, where you live? who you were, if you were investigating this, they knew who you were. They knew who you were.

It's yeah, this was this. So this whole the jungle gym suite is is fucking infamous for basically blurring the lines between reality and fiction. And the it does a fantastic job with it, especially because it's it's not adhering to those normal rules of like, you're not allowed to Doc's, the participants, you're not allowed to silence people. You're not allowed to do this, do that, whatever. Yeah, this one did all of that, like you were punished if you actively worked on this.

So I don't want to get too deep into this whole area. Now I have a bunch of good Yeah, yeah. Take us out for after that. But basically, yeah, we get I think Mike has a good amount of information on Alpha archive. But to just sum it up. It basically made it was an app that made you seem like you were hacking into a bunch of Russian documents. But it basically helped you explore and navigate the game a little bit better

spend fucking days looking through this shit.

There's so much, Mike, you have a little bit more on this, right?

Yeah. So like I was saying before, when it comes to the alpha archives app, the whole arg itself kind of goes I want to say quiet, but there's no leads up until this app comes out.

When this app come out,

2014 If I believe so it goes from 2014 and there's five years silence Yeah. So kind of read it. And it's this one is pronounced, spelled the Russian way. Alpha al FA. Yeah. So, topical Yeah. And I know we've talked about it before, but my notes have a brief description of the app as well. So I'll fucking go over, it could not hurt to remember that. So the archive app, it was released in the Apple App Store. It basically helped continue the story. It's like the final piece, you need to wrap

When you say it, dumped into

it, dumped into them, dog, the center's dumping into the pieces when people got a little. So for a while now, people have been a little like, cautious about this story. Because a lot of your information could be given away. Some people work semi doxed to where it used, like their first and last names. But yeah, no more information. We're

not going to include those I've I've seen those documents. Well,

the that's a big no, no, the creator, the creator himself said that he didn't use anything that wasn't already on social media and available to people. So it wasn't as much Daxing as much as people weren't expecting their actual yams to be used, which I get, I guess. But this is when people got like, super cautious because the app would ask you for permission to use your camera and your phone's microphone, which is like every fucking app you ever done. Yeah,

organization. Yeah, all of a sudden, people don't want to use I don't want to accept Yeah,

this this hacker also started asking people for money for more information to be released, which once it's like GoFundMe,

I mean, you go deeper down that rabbit hole. Yeah, bear no expense.

If you were to dilute the pod

if you give us two more dollars, you'll get the rest of the episode.

even got to the point where users were asked to download a Chrome extension onto their browsers called the Alpha cipher. And this cipher would help you find more information to help decode certain information, it will provide access to like a dark net of like these like phantom pages

or these more videos of naked ladies random depressing,

it's random.

Yeah. That and also,

fun fact, I'm gonna interrupt you because I know some chrome extension was actually helped. Like the development was actually helped by WikiLeaks. Edward Snowden had his hands in this himself holy fuck really helped with advice on how to make this extension and how to make it function proper

Edward Snowden has his name tied to Junko Jen sway

and this portion of it but that's kind of what we get out of the GS the Alpha cipher and the Alpha archives

application Yeah, I mean, this is gonna come back up a little bit later it

is because again this this basically was the last thing that gave you just a dump of information on the rest of the plot. So

the things that shattered the whole the whole story on it gave everyone an idea of like what the fuck happened

it also scared a lot of people because they thought they were actually hacking the cage of Russian KGB website

Well it's funny because if you like look at the the reviews of the actual a bunch of ones don't do those like don't download like I fix my phone

Yeah Apple yeah I'm resetting my home imagine being imagine being somebody that like has no like just the bare minimum of getting it this far and it's like oh my God, what did I do I just I've recently had broken into the Pentagon or aka Russia Yeah,

yeah my grandma's out here download in this app like ah communist is coming to kill me.

Like why is the alpha fucking archive app on your phone woman

so much deeper that

it'd be amazing.

But so it's really funny how this whole thing kind of panned out like yes for it being like a couple months thing and then to just like resurface a couple of months. Since

it was only a couple of months, a couple of months in research, it resurfaced five fucking years after, like it was done almost five years. It's

it's not even at all either.

2013 was the last we heard something from it. So you know, I mean realistically

ads not old, but it is old in the terms of like what args are and have become.

But to be fair, 2016 was eight years.

So what kind of information did we get?

Six years long.

2009 though was that was fucking 12 years. Yeah, it was 2018 years?

What kind of information do we get from this giant info dump?

From the Alpha archive? Yes. Well, yeah. So I don't want to like deep dive into those because there's a lot of it. And there's a lot of it that we can't actually access. And we can't verify any of it, which sucks. And we're not about to sit there and spend hours upon hours looking through the Wayback Machine to try and see these like, you know, clippings from

what I mean, like plot progression?

Do we get that? Yeah, you do get a ton. But I think the main points are going to lead us into the end of this whole thing. Yes. One of those main points being that alpha center, we get a much bigger and broader outcome of like what they're actually trying to do, which is weaponizing, the Gen suite. We are trying to, you know, basically determine why they're

Are you they're making, you're talking about a Marvel movie, right? Is that they're making black widows. That's what they want. Yeah,

but it's funny you guys fucking say that.

Because this is where we learned about school three, where Raya and Vera are a part of and all the other drones, we that are, you know, currently learning training, but we find out that they are being trained as spies for the Russian government. And this is where we learn a little bit more.

Yeah, so this is where one of our gin sui main characters I guess, Raya is going to discover the internet.

And we get all this from her journal. This is like a journal entry that we are technically reading, but that's the TLDR of that journal.

Yeah. And that's, you're gonna find throughout this entire experience, you're gonna find a lot of journal entries from different people, mainly the gym suite. But this specific one led to a discovery, which blew up this whole fucking story. And it's when Raya discovered an iPad that had internet connection. Now, we can kind of assume that before this point. Anybody that was a part of this group has been very heavily sheltered.

Yeah. The Russians definitely when they're,

I just made a connection. Yes. I didn't even realize before it's up in the video, because we're getting the weight room video. When she's yakking up everything. I don't think we actually kind of covered that talked

about the throng of video now, so it makes sense now, doesn't it?

She had morning sickness. Yes. Because Because Because yes, she's pregnant. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, we're getting into that in

a second here. Yeah, we are. Absolutely. I'm so happy that happened.

I am the rabbit or the dog

I'm incredibly happy that you put that I

just made that connection. Right.

So I'm gonna bird scooter you perfectly please. How did she discover the iPad? So we're

gonna go ahead and talk about a an item that is not normally allowed within the confines of the John sway? Yes. And not a Yo yo, no.

Chinese finger trap?

Close. Oh, it runs on the same algorithm?

I'm not sure that would that makes a lot of sense.

No, so Raya, just give you a bit of background Raya was the gin squeeze top operative, and I say operative, because we're gonna go ahead and equate these two. I'm sure most of you have seen if not are knowledgeable about the character known as Black Widow in Marvel.

Yeah, remember how there was a whole bunch of black widows? This is that this is

so this is actually the the organization that Black Widow from Marvel is based on. And it's about these these women that are just fucking kick ass

super. They're genetically modified to be able to read like micro behaviors. Yes, yeah. If you switch a certain way, they're like, Oh, I know he's upset. I gotta cheer him up, to coerce them and basically just seduce you and make you do what they want. Talk to your prostitutes, or agents,

you have to smell copyright infringement all over this marvel side. Disney came out first, I think Marvel came out with this beforehand.

So a little bird told me a great adjective for this. They're, they're empaths

Yeah, for sure. And empaths impasse for sure, empathy, empathy, sympathy. Yeah, they definitely are empathic, where they can kind of, if they're talking to you, they can read what like you're feeling so Raya was ranked the top of her fucking class in regards to this whole, like espionage thing that are part of and regularly these, these women will get put on assignments, and the assignments are not exactly

seduction.

They're good at doing the sex and they go and

do both that's relevant to sex thing to this is this for years.

So they use their sex appeal to get information more or less from unsuspecting clients. Go ahead, Mike. Thanks.

Again, keep in mind that they're trying they're using these agents for the betterment of Russia so these clients are usually like political figures Yeah, other countries and people of importance that they need like blackmail on

right and so so Raya top operative best in her class, especially when it comes to seduction and coercion persuasion, getting people to tell them what they're not supposed to tell them she is fucking fantastic at it so she does this and she is on assignment and she's sleeping with whoever the fuck it is. I can't

they don't tell you that it's just some some pod name

and politician Yeah, they

said there is actually an excerpt it says mentions and it is and I forget what it is off the top of my head mentioned

one time I'm gonna see it doesn't

matter where Yeah, it's the content is what matters here. So she is she's basically occupying this client. She

goes on like a three day bender.

It's a three day work. It's a three day Fun Fest for being 100% honest about it. Ever sex occasion, on this three day, sexual conquest of hers. She comes to find ownership of her clients iPad. Now

she she mentioned sorry, I don't want to cut you off. I like how she finds it.

The common thing

I don't want to cut you off, but I'm gonna

but my inner voice tells me I have

whether she finds it is she mentioned that in her journal entries that you find through like the Ark apps and everything how? After he left she was sitting in the bed and she heard the vibrations coming from the bedroom. And she found this she called it when she caught wind of the electric wall and she's so smart are we with so the Russians that are keeping her the Jin sui in general they deprived deprive them of the modern, they have no no

Yeah, so she finds this fucking thing. And now after she looks like she fucking she fucks with it for a little bit to just figure out what the fuck it is. And eventually she understands that she now has access to the fucking internet,

the World Wide Web and that's

that is that's not and she thinks she

makes the Warrens Yeah, she she mentions that it like it's glowing, but it's not warm.

Yeah, it's very it's very Yeah, it's very stone it and then

she mentioned that she likes smuggles it back to the school with her friends. She made

that's the most important part sisters. So she brings his iPad home and she now has connection to the internet. Okay. Her and her I guess sister sisters because they're a sisterhood without worrying what the internet has to offer and they were rightly confused with the fuck they received because again, lead very, very, very, very sheltered lives. Yes. They

mentioned how quick Do you think they have Traveling Pants?

The Sisterhood of the Traveling

he's saying they have matching outfits. They have a traveling I hope

they have tracksuit Russia so I'm imagining

like Japanese girl outfits but that's that's just me. I would be very

sad and disappointed if they all didn't have Adidas track suits and the sneakers

traveling kimono.

Would you prefer like Japanese schoolgirl outfits or like four Looking Russia, they have to have tracks they have to have a track suit. Okay, so Game Change.

They're not mentioned, they were still partnered back to thing and they're exploring the internet. And she's they're like, oh, people are so mean on here. People will. Yeah. They're like, tutorials and stuff and that

yes, they get exposed to just the fucking raw. Yeah, like they mentioned it's a very mean place. Yeah, they mentioned, they're watching

a video of a woman with like a muted background like and she's just talking to the camera. And then like they're like, oh, yeah, people are just negative in the comments. And it's like, oh, oh, yeah, that is the internet.

That's absolutely the internet. But the important part to take away from here is this is how they fucking find. Fuck, what's it called Nippon Shin OSI. Yeah, this is how they find the company that is basically advertising them. And well,

this is one of them. Right?

They have a figurehead. And we all know that person as being the woman trapped in the white fucking room. And this is where they find out about this. This is where they find out about how they are part of this elite group of people, elite group of humans who have like the perfect alleles to maintain the perfect race. And I understand I'm going to be quoting Hitler a lot when it comes to this. And I apologize. It's very hard not to

they also noticed that at this point that the people that are running the school number three have been definitely like, in in essence, not kidnapping them, but holding them up prisoners.

And they didn't know this beforehand. No. Normal was just how this life is. Yep. So this is again, you've heard the name Vera. Again, this is the original like this, the account owner of Junko gym suite on Facebook, that blonde lady that you see that's, that's not her. But this is the account that she owns her name is Vera, she decides that she is going to start a rebellion from within to take over the Alpha Order. Oh, yeah. And this is kind of how the Alpha

Order Yeah, we have not the Alpha Order is pretty much the company that owns Alpha. Yes. So that's about it.

So when when the enemy the website was bought, yeah, when the website was bought, so during this whole experience, you're gonna be able to see the website, see the website, see the website, and all of a sudden, you will not fucking be able to see the website anymore. And that is when this Russian company to kind of takes over ownership of everything, because they understand exactly how valuable these people are. Because you know, God, I hate Nanci territory. Yeah, so well.

you get a lot of information on this rebellion that takes place.

And yeah, I don't wanna go too far ahead, like too far ahead, though. The just a heads. Yes. The gist of this whole point though, is this iPad. That was the property of a high, high profile client of the Jin sway, which again, we've already outlined, they escort these people keep them occupied, yada, yada, yada. After finding this iPad, though, this is where Vera kind of finds out role and the Jin Sui, find out about the

AKA smoke in the meats

not what I was expecting but I love it.

Mark Zuckerberg when he was smoking as me

yes is

for you not that it makes sense? No.

I'm just gonna see my cell phone sorry. Stupid well you did this to me all of you told me that this was a stupid zone. Some guys, this is the stupid sound beautiful. All right, so

now that we've hit Facebook Yep. And we might have gone full circle Mike, what

do you got for us

so they're essentially essentially if you dig deep enough, you get these documents and journal entries that you can find from Raya and her sisters as well. If you start to read them, you start to figure out the timeline, essentially, Raya was just taken away from her sisters. Because she was feeling unwell. This is kind of where that video the those videos we get of that woman in that like white room 15 minute little 15 minutes yes is where those kind

Yes, she is pregnant,

pregnant pregnant

art, which, from what we established earlier, the June suite are not supposed to be able to get pregnant. They are not they are they are able to Yes, so this is a mystery of its own. So Alpha Centauri wants to know what the fuck is going on here. So they kind of just take her way off his tours also, like super confused and how they got access to the internet, which I mean, how are you that confused when you're sending them out

products don't last Yeah, the old one that makes no

fucking sense. But the jinzhou sisters they end up basically like Jason mentioned before starting a rebellion against the office and tour and they take over School Number three they kill a lot of do a lot of people a lot of guys Yeah.

You can see a whole time wise died. Guys in general. A lot of dudes are dead. A lot of people just died in general but there's actually a very well written out timeline exactly what happens when they go to school three by four. Wow. Which

is a lot of a lot of casualties.

You basically hear wolverines and then they just go in some Red October shit

now I'm picturing Wolverine coming in with his I know you meant the animal but um, no,

I meant from that's the mascot movie Red October.

Oh,

you're right. Oh, man. Now I'm picturing them morph together. This is terrible.

Wolverine and Wolverine.

So this also does anyone want to take over from here? Okay, so this kind of just goes into the general like, discovery that a lot of the gin Suey have been killed as well. Whether it be from this rebellion or from overall just experimentation. And that includes Vera herself. Yo, she is now dead. And her sisters want them some fucking revenge. There were some of the Jin Soo that reported missing.

of missing ones is kind of what they allude to. Yeah,

which the sisterhood is basically what's the best way of putting it? I wouldn't say a terrorist organization. They're labeled as they are an

extremist organization.

They're labeled as a terrorist organization only because they're in the real world anyway, because of people thought this was such a real fucking thing. But in the ARG world they label themselves as a sisterhood these like group of these Jin Soo they're getting revenge on this office and tweet tour company Yep. So they're not a real terrorist organization but they have been labeled as one they've

actually been hosted on a reel to

reel this arg got at a certain

Yeah, well, we'll go over that. Like after we're done going over the fact Yes,

we yeah, we see things with the like you get to the point where we see things with like a Chilean hackers and like other groups causing, like, like destroyed shin and yeah, like destruction havoc in the name of the sisterhood just to take down the Alpha Centauri.

So real quick, there's one point I want to make. Yeah, that is just, it's a very small detail, but it's kind of a big detail. The Sisterhood is led by this third sister that we're now just kind of hearing about whose name is Oksana? She's the one that's kind of building this. She's like, the main missing

leg for this whole fucking story. Yeah,

pretty much just find out about her in this.

Yeah, exactly. Fucking Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny too, because this whole thing with the Chilean hackers and people causing havoc in the name of the sisterhood. We will go over this. But like, this was actually something that the main creators of this didn't actually have any thing to do. So that's just a fun tidbit for

you. Like that's the danger you run when you do an ARG? Well, especially, like this

just starts going. So

let's look closely

knit to like real world events. So

here's the thing that we're gonna get into this in like 30 seconds. Okay, so I'm about to wrap this up my take home, we end on basically this bit with the sisterhood up until it takes like, I think a couple months until we get a little bit more information given to us, we get pictures of like, what look like spy shots of Raya. And she is getting, like, into a car with what looks like, you know, her baby. So and she is surrounded by these alphas and tour like, security guards.

detail of some

Exactly, yeah, and that's kind of where this ends. Fuck, unfortunately, yeah, this it's such a weird fucking story. It's

such a cliffhanger of just yeah, no more information after it's just done.

So now we're gonna get into some fun bits here. Um, first and foremost, I know we've been calling in or arg this whole time to our classic, real or fake. Louis, are you ready? Oh, yeah. Three, he's familiar on the count of three, say if you think it's real or so

okay, here's the criteria. It's looking at the information given do not pay attention to the internet as a whole. Given the information that you have received, Is it real or fake? Ready on

the count? 3123? Fail? Just a fail?

That's it real? Oh

wait, hold on. Okay. How about this? This will probably be

around Asami what was the know? What was the first one you said real? And I was like, no.

Okay, so how about this? Um, you and Doug Mike both said fail. And I also said fail to Jason said truth. But I'm also fails on a truth. I feel that I'm on the teeter totter of fail in truth, because part of this takes in truth, and part of it is.

Here's the there's a lot of truth

there. There's a reason for that. But there's also a lot of falseness to Well, here's a fun thing.

You say you can teeter and it might be true. Especially Jason, you say it's true,

you will get the criteria that I gave right beforehand.

It's true. You're right. If you're walking into this are

some fun bonus criteria. We have interviews from the Creator. Yeah.

So this is most absolutely not not real.

You're lying. You're lying. We have

been approved. But Mr. Flip Flop if you were to look at everything except this interview, it, it gives is it's literally you can eat it's indistinguishable from something real because they use real world organizations. They use real world events and they tie themselves to all of these things. So there's no way you can say it's fake from that but

Doug, you had some good information on the interview. Yeah,

I do actually there so I appreciate your your true

truthiness

to your true truth. So I get it because there was a point where like, even do even even do even do even do. Even though I know what I know. There's a point where like, you get into this mythology And this like, very deep rooted like, timeline of like real world events that

and they start stacking up, and they just keep fucking stacking up.

It's it's awesome to read about these different peoples and like where they come from and like how this has all been crafted. But unfortunately as most args tend to go, we have a 2014 interview with the creators, Oslo.

So we know for

a fact, He didn't hide himself well.

We know for a fact that this is not actually real. The reason I said that I think it is real is because I think a lot of the events that happened are absolutely fucking real, right? I think this is just a dramatization of set of events

are the things that he

bought me. Sorry, sorry, the the interview with the Creator is just kind of fun in general. If you look at inside the minds of the Yeah, he actually has an interview himself as well, which he does. But it's it's wild the things that they're like, oh, yeah, we did not playing on that happening. Right. Like there was a moment that they actually docked a doxxed a North Korean politicians phone numbers, and they're like, that happened. Yeah, they're like this might cause an international incident.

creators didn't give two fucks. That's true. But

well, it got to the point where they're like, had to response someone Someone commented like, don't don't call this

because we're doing it. Hmm. Very involved in like, diplomatic relations, like international relations, etc. And they're like, hey, like, this is a real North Korea number. And the creators were like, yeah, yeah, we know. They straight up invited us to North Korea, because they thought our website was a actual military function security. We can hire so they kind of just played along and they were like, yeah, like, we do this stuff like you. Yeah. What are you willing to

guy that knowingly, they just know, they do know. I mean, like, when you're with what they were trying to do, they weren't necessarily being like, hey, you know, we want this to happen. They were just right

there like this. This is a good story. We don't want our players to get hurt or like maliciously do anything wrong. Yeah. Basically, to give you a little background on the two creators of this, we've have Patrick, Marcus Sano and Rob out and who are these guys now? So Patrick Marzano. I don't have a good background on him. But I do know that Rob Loughton wasn't former Disney, of course, he would have oh, he has now. At the time, he is a video game writer.

I think he worked for 20 Century Fox at 1.2. If I'm not mistaken, it's very probably

Yeah, I

didn't actually go too deep into who these people were. But as soon as

you hear those, he has a resume for fucking share.

But it's funny because he basically explains how he wants to make the software to get the energy actually off the ground and give like people an interactive experience. Basically what this routing guy was doing was he was making written experiences for people and they didn't really want a monetary thing out of it, because they already you know, had full time jobs doing that. It was more of just, it's the mind. It's the brainchild of Patrick mostly. Yeah. And basically Rob just kind of

made it happen. Yeah, he made a sorry. I'm picturing Imagineer Hatcher.

No, I watched I watched this interview as well. And like it's, they are the creators were so fucking thrown when, like, they saw the kind of traction they were getting. Yes. Especially on the global fucking scale, when they're sending like when your clues are being fucking translated into 12 different languages, so other people can also share along with it. Your fuck you're doing something correctly, but you're also doing something wrong.

wanted the publicity is what it was. They definitely got out.

Yeah, they did mention. In one of the interviews, he did mention how season two was supposed to go into promoting their software that he was developing. So this was leading as all args due to some selling point I think well you know

who won? That one? You know who killed it right? Who was fucking 4chan?

Oh yeah. And once 4chan comes into play, everything's dead

4chan took it to another level and basically killed off the whole ARG. With all the allegations that were happening with all the scares that were happening. We have people in actual Chile fucking starting to do their own thing and

books and stuff,

basically that's right yeah

basically what what had happened at the time was that Chile was way far advanced with internet connectivity than most of like South America was. Yep. And they were, you know, really interested in this whole thing. They actually went out to Chile and like, fucking film some stuff for the whole ARG. But people just took it too far. They were making their own videos like where they're running up on cops and doing all the shit and like, just getting real crazy with things.

This This was what to the 2014 again that this

all from 2014 Yeah, this

isn't old. This isn't old at all. So to hear this. Yeah. So

I would also like to mention a couple of things with this ARG. No, that's okay with you boys. Because I'm gonna go on. I'm gonna say like a two minute rant. Go. I'm here. First and foremost, take

a shot at

this. This is awful. I hated this.

Turn turn the mics off. Mike's got a rant.

So here's why. No, don't do it.

I'm gonna talk to keep his mic on

keep Okay, great. So here's kind of why I didn't like it too much. Their alternate also they can drink because I make them drink more.

Is mine Ceylon, apparently.

So you're gonna have this with me. So, this arg was probably the most convoluted one I think I've ever been a part of. And the reason being was, I think, because they planned on doing a lot more in the future and never got to it. They're leading up to a bunch of stuff and we're never able to fully finish it. Like for example, the whole Google Maps the coordinates leading just a straight line, that's fucking nothing do with nothing. It's

aliens with the whole genesis center actually, like a legit paramilitary operational. Here's the face no exact location. They said they were

no, that's fake. Um, there is a company called center alpha in Russia, which is just a trucking company. It's a company that came into existence four years after the ARG Okay, so they came up with the name just out of nowhere Damn. Which I'm assuming the name came from Alpha Centauri they just made in a Russian

is sound a fancy name for

those Alpha center? Yeah, but for sounded like Centaur

No, but Alpha Centauri as I get the connection could be made because we have the Jin sui who are like these malevolent kind of alien esque creatures, you know? Because they're

$5 one off human. Yeah,

they're their own branch of human they're human and our sense there.

I bet you five if you were to say Jen Suey to somebody they would think that it was like Japanese Yeah, like no no, I know it is but they wouldn't tie it into junk Yeah, yeah.

All in all this thing left me with a bad taste in my mouth for how it was like the way you had to go about finding the information and everything. I liked the concept of them creating this fake website this fake Google is thorough. Do you have these cool yeah, the live stream of the woman's box but the way they went about it I just did not care for it just

it did not work. So that it's funny you say that because it rubbed so many fucking people the wrong

way which I guess was their point they're trying because they didn't have a point well, they had no idea what the fuck they were doing so I could be wrong but I vaguely recall seeing in one of the interviews that their point was to show that it is super easy for your information to go online and for anyone to get it and and that's where them taking people's socials as social names and putting them into the he came into play but yeah, I don't know this this whole thing that's the

To me the interactions is what like the interactivity between players and Game Masters which again, didn't know what they were doing. They've in their in Interview they even stated, we didn't we don't know what energies are. And we didn't know

what the fuck that was there was a pervert, the dude was like, Yeah, I used to sleep next to like our station. Yeah. And, like, kind of watch how things were going and then I just hop on the station and like make up some new shit real quick. Yeah,

they just wanted to keep people entertained, but they had no story to go about.

There was no template there was no, there was no like nothing to follow for them. And that's honestly why I enjoyed this so much because it was just raw

me out. I'm not gonna say that they weren't also trying to do this to just make a little money on the side. But the way he literally said when he was like, yeah, so if you dig deep enough, and everything you get to the point where it's like, well, if you want more information, again, no, give me a little money here. And he made it seem like, you know, you give

biggest issue people had. And I say again, being around even happened,

you mentioned that season two was basically going to be a marketing ploy for his software. Yep. So he does mention that this whole thing was going to wrap it up software besides Disney and then would you say who? I think he worked for? 20 Fox, he

I know. I remember this. He worked on one of the Metal Gear Solid games, too.

I also I remember seeing that. Yeah,

yeah. Yeah. And honestly, at this point, we have like, we have this dude who's a very, like, you know, obviously he's writing for video games. He's been working for high profile companies. He just like, I don't know, he, he just kind of ended it. And to be honest, no

choice. I mean, they literally just went out of their hands. And it's like, Okay, we have to I mean, not

to be fair, once North Korea gets involved and personally, that's when you stop. Yeah, that's when you just don't go creative. Yeah.

Rena Zack creative color green. Remember that always difficult. Like you

guys said 4chan Just was the fuck. This is Fortran.

This is our baby. Now.

You're at this point. Do we want to say something to the people? Yeah,

I think it's about that time

we've pretty much covered this has been a ride guys.

So do you enjoy yourself? Oh,

Jason, do you have anything you want to say to the people?

I mean, fucking always, um, when? When going on to ancestry.com and spitting in that little cup. Be prepared to realize that your family line is not where you thought it was from. And you should get very, very, very incredibly paranoid about that.

Especially if Russia is involved. Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Just be paranoid. paranoid. One of the things I want you all to do for me, is I want you to go to your local dentist. First off, write them five stars. And then ask them if they have any loose teeth.

molars. I know someone

who wouldn't write their dentist five stars.

Yeah, same. Sorry. No. No wisdom. If they have any loose you can take if they say no, take their teeth out of their mouths. Also because Orthon is getting hungry. And can you feel them again? I can't see you.

Can you are you like in tune with him

again? Starting to was

the connection last time it's

it's it's Yeah, I feel like butter spread across too much bread. It's very, I feel thin. So we're gonna see how this plays out. I'm

very in some KY jelly as you can dump into that bitch. I

do. Doug, do you have anything you want to say? Yeah, so

as per usual, I need you to pull out your your fattest pain. And I'm not talking about I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about anyone elses. But I'm talking about your fattest pain. And you're going to take that pain. Alright, and you're gonna spread it. You're gonna separate it like a butter. You're gonna you're gonna spread it like you want to see every vein like any condom and you want to stretch it out. Okay, let's see everything. When you stretch it, you're gonna see that

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