DLUTI 013 - Dyatlov Pass

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But I have something to do with the episode.

What is the episode?

You know? We're talking about a little thing called the Dyatlov Pass. Dyatlov

Beth Dyatlov Conrad

the the

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we're covering the guide my deal a tough pass. I can't even pronounce it. So heads up to everybody. I'm going to give this heads up everybody know you stop

all the anger in this man.

I am going to butcher these names. I'm going to butcher all this. And I'm so sorry.

We are going to sit here right now. And we are going to you are going to keep saying this word until you get it right. Dyatlov No,

De evolve.

Very close.

Well, that if that's if you say well, you

Rob Dyatlov de la. de la de Oh, no, you're saying it wrong.

Nicholas, you

know, yeah, you got it. Okay, cool.

Well, tell us a little bit about the Dyatlov Pass.

dlo pass is it's a very old mystery. It's pretty well known. Which is funny because I knew fucking nothing about this before I actually started researching it for the name tossed around I know last podcast does one of their episodes on it, which I we all fucking love those guys. The fact that I haven't listened to it is a travesty. And I'm sorry, but shame on this. This goes all the way back to 1959 a

good year.

Very good year. Great wine real solid year. Yeah,

things were coming out the microwave.

tootsie rolls,

rolls probably people were doing things and stuff. Yeah,

I'm gonna keep guessing when Tootsie Rolls came out. You'll

be right and

I'll be right. But no, so back in 1959 there was a

group.

I don't even know what to call like hikers, campers, hikers. Travelers, hikers. Yeah. hikers he was like a ski

ugly word sounds

like a racial slur.

As soon as I left my mouth I was like, I hope I'm not offending anyone.

I don't I don't I don't know if we should use that but

s on skaters.

Nevermind,

no. So this group got formed. It was a skiing expedition that was supposed to go across the northern Urals which is a mountain range in Russia. For those who don't know who those are for those that are not caught up on the Russian geography it's a it's a mountain range.

Listeners podcast you should know all about Russian geography at this point. You should catch up people come on can we

do seem to touch on like the same things like fucking Portland, Oregon, Russia, Russia.

We're very

creatures of habit. Yes. Yeah,

we keep coming back to our safety nets, which is apparently Oregon and Russia.

We're gonna make our way back to Oh my God, I forgot where it was the KFC place

Joe Corbin. We're gonna make our way back to Korea. We haven't talked shit about Korea on them in a while right? Fuck you. Corbin

Kentucky.

There's the

fat bastards. I'm kidding. I love you all.

We met our quota. Corbin Kentucky shitting the episode so know this. So 1959 a group of ski hikers or as Doug has lovingly referred to them as strikers they started an expedition across the northern Urals and that is by Okay, I'm gonna apologize right now for how badly I butcher all of these Russia already made the disclaimer that we're gonna destroy these names. Oh, we're okay. I would like to double down on that because it's not good. I think how you pronounce it is spurred

You got it.

Sverdlovsk. Sverdlovsk Oblast. The closest thing in the Soviet Union now it's a town it's no longer called that. I have what it's called somewhere down the line. It's 15 syllable words.

Russia just name their shit like this is a

and just call it a day. What do you do?

What do you just call it again? Sverdlovsk Oblast.

Why? Just that's mountain a fucking Cyrillic local, their

mouth just can do those things.

Yes. Yeah.

They're used to the, the other letters that they have.

Well, you know when your V SK is just all over there. You know, when you're cold and you're like shivering like your teeth are chattering. Maybe they use that moment. went on to just make their language.

That's a, you might be able to something

that any of our Russian listeners get back to me on that duty pod at gmail or your

ancestors just cold. And that's why you sound like you do.

What is the sun? I don't know.

So, talking getting back on topic. This, this was an expedition, mainly to give this entire group of people a certain

Actually, I have a very good idea what happened at the end here, say, so I will go over that at the end. But I do think I found out what happened to them.

Cool. Thanks for interrupting. Cool,

now I'm not gonna tell you about these things. But I'm gonna just throw it in there that I

need people to know I'm better than all of

this podcast to a grinding halt

that go chasing that just

so after the fact, there have been many instances of researchers of trials of people trying to figure out what the fuck happened. One of these people. He was a prosecutor named temple off. He documents that there were certain documents found in the tent of the expedition that suggests that it was named for the 21st Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and was possibly dispatched by the local Komsomol organization. Now, I know all of you probably know what comsol means.

They found like papers with them like a jury. Yeah,

like different documents in their tent. Oh, cool. Cool. Basically tying them to this like, I think I hate to make this reference but think Hitler's youth but for Soviet Russia.

Oh,

yeah. It's it's literally a youth organ. It was the who was

the very bad Russian man back in the day. Stalin, Stalin, Stalin's youth. There

we go. There you go. Yeah, Stalin's youth. But yeah, no, it's a youth organization within the Soviet Union, that's very big on, you know, nationalism, and, you know, the party. And they, they found these documents that tie them to this. So they kind of think that this is where they came from, which I mean, to me, it makes sense, because everybody in the party that left for this expedition was under 30 years of age, with the exception of one person, and we'll get into him a

like four

no more, I can only count to four, so please God, no more,

that's where they stopped. They were like we can't either.

So in order to reach that level three certification, just give you an insight as to what that might entail for anyone else that might want to be getting aid certification from the Soviet Union that grants them level three Skyping access,

I guess Kiker?

My level three Skycar

sounds like my you got to Warcraft fucking.

That's a level three, you have to beat up a Yeti. Right?

Exactly.

They just have one cage to that they let's let you go.

So basically, what you have to do is traverse 300 kilometers or 190 miles. That's not a short distance. It's fucking tough to get this but that's kind of what they had to do. And this is the expedition that would grant them that. But that wasn't the actual, like, the goal of it like Yes, that was an added bonus, but the actual goal of them doing this was to reach a goal. Mountain named tortoise. I also have the Cyrillic here in my notes, and I

don't just know what I don't even try.

Yeah, this mountains about 10 kilometers north of the site where this incident actually occurred. So, for the Americans listening, it's about 6.2 miles. 10 kilometers.

Thank you.

No one knows what a kilometer is here.

1000 meters.

And you know, in reference to miles How?

Well a meters three feet.

I'm so I'm so proud of him.

So you can. Lyle is like, what? 1500 feet? No,

it's not like one point. isn't a kilometer like 1.4 miles or something? Or like roughly,

it's like it's almost it's Yeah, it's like 1.4 1.8 Yeah, yeah,

I used to deal with that shit in fucking Canada.

Oh, that's right. I forgot. Yeah, you have to use metric for that shit. Now

these cars go kilometers per hour. I don't that's not Canadian at all. I don't know what that is Swedish.

The cool thing about Canada is that all of their dealerships that I work on, they're just selling mooses registration for know. You could be like four years old and write the most.

Okay, I know this is the start of a tangent but I need to share this. I found out not too long ago. That one of the natural predators of the moose Orca whale. Yeah, killer whale. Which when I first fucking heard that, I'm like, Okay, wait, who goes to who?

Whose environment here?

Is the the whale coming into the

forest or when the moose is the moose the moose as they migrate North? Or no, they migrate south for the winter the winter. Now they have to swim.

Moose don't know moose don't know where to start migrate

now. They actually migrate

East Bay dollar dingus.

No, all they do is they go to these deep water areas for food. They go down to get the seaweed. And that's when they get eaten. But

that's where I found that out. I didn't know mooses could fucking dive 30 underwater.

They're basically submarine.

Okay, can you imagine going scuba diving? a moose comes out of nowhere scares the shit out of you. And then killer whale swims by you and eats the fucking moose.

What a trip.

I'd be I would literally walk to shore throw my scuba gear. Never again.

I've seen it all done in a retire

when I was speaking of what I was just fucking talking about. So they made this this expedition to Taunton, Mount or Taunton. Let's call it that. Horton Hears a Who Horton Hears no toward. So they started on this journey in February, and it was estimated as a category three, the most difficult type of hike to undertake,

like a black diamond, almost like ski hill.

Yeah, absolutely. But like if you were not going downhill if you're just kind of walking with your skis,

which sounds super fun.

Someone explained that to me, like I'm five later because I don't get it. But um, so there's a lot. So like I said, it was Igor do it love. It was eight or nine other people. The 11th person was added kind of last minute. And he was listed as Semyon zolo tario who was previously certified to go with another expedition of similar difficulty. If anyone cares. It was the sovrin expedition. I don't we don't we don't know all about that, right.

Yep.

So he was kind of like a last minute Add in to the whole thing. Now I know that doesn't seem weird now. But after you hear the rest of this, it's gonna seem a little weird why somebody was added last minute for this. The dlF group left Sverdlovsk City. Today, it's again, it's called Ekaterinburg. On the same day they received their route book and your route book is basically like all the information you need to complete

try to do this. They live like he did he

they literally received their information. We're like, Alright, let's fucking go.

Let's do this. Let's

fucking go do this. But yeah, that's, that's about all I got for kind of background that's after that they kind of head out.

Yeah, the expedition itself is pretty like straightforward. So The group of travelers or Skycar is whatever you'd like

me to call them from here on out. They're just Skycar.

They made a few stops before heading out. On their hike, they first took a train to IV del, and then they took a truck to visit. Hi. This is just on the way to get to where they're going. We're not making it up.

No, but it sounds like we took them directly from a JRR Tolkien book. Promise These are real Russian names. Yes. The great trek of his high

Yeah, right. And I'm like, like they said, I'm probably butchering these names, but basically when they got to visit Hi, they purchase food and supplies to basically last them on their expedition and they bought the One Ring somehow they they did actually

have a merchant shop.

But then on January 27 of 1959 they started their travel tours,

Gora. Oh, Taunton, Gora?

Oh chorten is that Randy Orton's brother

Horton. Here's a Goro tour.

I think it's a mixture of Goro from Mortal Kombat thinking, I don't know. Anyways. But yeah, so they start their way towards Goro, Taunton. And the following day, Euro uden. One of the, you know, expedition people, he actually suffered from health issues prior to all of this, and he was having a bunch of knee pains. And I would say, if you're going out on, you know, 190 some odd mile hike, and you have knee pains, you probably get the fuck out of there. So he decides to up and leave

he just luckiest man.

Yeah, ever.

So there are diaries and cameras that were found that document the whole first part of the expedition, that's how we know where they went, how they got there, etc. And then on January 31, the group makes it to a Highland area. And they begin to cache a surplus of food and equipment that would be used for the return home. The the Highland area that they came up upon, they had planned to hike over, and actually set up a

sicker

cycle.

No one knows how to pronounce these.

I don't care. I'm sorry. So they Yeah, they get to this call it cycle place, which actually roughly translates into dead mountain. Hmm.

You should always go to dead mountain. Yeah.

You'll be fine. Nothing screams

don't hike me like.

I'm just saying.

And the funniest part is, so this is where everything is actually going to end up taking place. But they literally could have just like, moved. I think it was like a few miles away to a place that had like a wave like way more shelter and like just yeah, you know, but there's no shelter from the worsening weather. Well,

Doug wants to be boring and safe. And I don't know. I don't like dying.

Well, that's where that's why you'll never become a level four.

You got to fight a Yeti die. Yeah, come back to life level for spiker go through a fucking Russian sleep experiment. God, but yeah, this is what this is kind of where our story kind of takes place. This is where the start of all the bullshit kind of starts to come into play. And, you know, what a better place to do it then on dead mountain. That's kind of the conclusion that we have of knowing what went down after that. Really. I mean, oh, then like hiking up the mountain. Yeah. Like, we know,

So we'll get into it later. But like, we do kind of find out now that Igor told the euery that stay behind He's like, we'll send you a telegram after like 16 days or so that we're on our way back. And Igor is like, hey, it might take a couple days to get here because you know whether, but you are he never received a telegram from Igor

so he assumed they're fine right?

Oh, yeah, absolutely. That or they are d e. d. dead dead.

Yeah, they they all fucking they were killed with murder. They were murdered by death

like crazy. Yeah, all these all of them fucking

died. Oh, yeah, they're all fucking dead. And so I was just I was just telling these two that like I know that they died but I don't really like I'm not really privy to no one

knows about honestly, no one really is there's there's so much mystery in this that we're going to get into it where it's kind of left up to interpretation on how the fuck to these people. Now all nine of them die.

Well and well. That's Kind of where the investigation that takes place like immediately after kind of gives us a lot more of the the knowledge we have on the Watson the wise. Yeah.

So obviously because the URI that stayed behind because of his knee, he never received a telegram. He let the fucking police know what's going on. And that led to an investigation.

Yeah, so I know that led to actually multiple investigations over the between, you know, 1959 and 2021. Yeah. And I know that I know, there's like a museum like that shows all that, like the facts that we know versus all that other stuff.

That being said, that's what kind of makes the investigation pretty wild.

He has a lot of unknowns. There's

a lot of, quote unquote super hard air quoting knowns. But oh, yeah, it's all it's kind of all to speculate. Well, why

the fuck do you think we're so interested in this? Because there's so many

unknowns, because this topic sucks. And we hate it.

Yeah, we're talking. Yeah, we only talk about topics we hate. Everything is dumb. And

don't worry, I still love you. Oh, he's love you. 33%

of us loves you.

Alright, so let's get into the investigation, shall we?

Yes, that's

the excitement that I need.

To get my ass man.

All I can think of is a fucking fish from SpongeBob. Now where he's like, anyways, so the immediate legal investigation that took place was right after the first five bodies were found to were found like semi near the campsite. And then three were found like, you know, a few like 100 feet away. They were all pronounced dead due to hypothermia. Even though one of the hikers had a small crack in his skull. Once the four other bodies were found, which were found in a like running stream,

yeah, they're found they had like a makeshift den.

Yeah,

like built in the snow. What? Oh, like shelter? Yeah, they made like their own version of

what you were saying. They went feral and now

coyotes den full of Russians.

What's really really bizarre because like, there's there's so many like different intricacies that like kind of don't make sense, but do make sense. Like, I think the first bodies were found, like buried under 13 feet of snow or something like that. And like, it's really it's really weird, just the way that all the bodies end up, like coming to light. But

the fact that they had the dedication to dig through 13 feet of snow.

Well, when it's survival, oh, you're talking about the police and everything to go find them like yeah,

if I were a part of that search and rescue 145 Phoebe like, Well,

no, unfortunately, it took a little bit longer than like one day to find some of these. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

But yeah, I mean, like so the four other bodies that were found in May of that year, so like, what did I say? It was like, fucking January when this happened? Yeah, so this is quite a while afterwards.

I appreciate that. Wait for like the snow to melt for some of them.

Yeah, mistaken. They found four of them in a running stream. So obviously, there's not much snow going on the snow melt in Russia. I don't know. I think it's just perma snow.

I think it's melting now. So who the fuck found certified elmers glue? I think that's just what snow is in Russia.

sticky. Yeah, eat a horse knuckle.

God's upstairs just melting horses. Fuck you, Russia.

Here's a little bit of Ed the horse. Oh god, what

are you doing? Putting

on a fucking smelters pot? Making glue?

I don't know if one horse is enough for all of Russia. No, it's like all the horses. Every

ellmers glues mascot a cow. If it's made of horse,

because they don't want people to think

why is it a cow? If it's made of horse? All right, everybody,

I need you to stop what you're doing right now. And go find a reason for this. Oh,

find Mr. Elmer himself and kick his ass for me. That'd

be like your fucking stupid ass logo has the wrong animal on it.

Now things that we don't know we need to research prior to the episode.

At least to too many horns on this horse.

It's funny that you say that because I always whenever I'm prepping for an episode, I start thinking like okay, what could we possibly tangent to? And I'm always always surprised Are you know

what? I'm not surprised anymore at least.

Do you think Gargamel took out the knuckles from okay.

So, back to what I was talking about. They found four bodies in a running stream, which is probably now the 12th time.

Can't go forward.

They are dying of laughter

Oh, fuck. All right.

I think I'm okay. You guys ready you guys good Breathe in. That was a hiccup. Wrong on breathing up.

You know that your belly buttons your old mouth stop.

We have to go on with the show.

Alright, so I'm gonna backtrack just a smidge. So these four bodies were found in May. your fucking mouth. Shut your fucking mouth.

Yes, pod dad.

He's father.

pod father I am.

I will literally leave a fucking school. I like it. I'm gonna leave a fucking mannequin head in your bed.

Oh, God. He is like the dad of he keeps us on track. He lets us know when we're being assholes. And again,

I do it again. Doug, the pod father it to me maybe Barbara boobity.

Perfect.

Yeah, I know. I know, Diane, it's fine. Alright, so I'm gonna backtrack a little bit. These four bodies that we were talking about that were found in the stream was in May. Once they found these bodies, the ruling of hypothermia started to change the story up a bit. So one had major skull damage. And two others had, you know, major chest fractures. These wounds were said to be caused by something that was the force of what you could compare to like a car accident, basically. Okay. Which is kind

with like bruising.

Yeah, pretty much. So.

Okay, if I'm clear with this, let's say one of them had like a rib fracture, right. But there was no mark on like, the outside to indicate it.

Well, the thing that I keep thinking about is keep in mind, they were in the snow for a while, a couple months. So they were probably completely black at this point. Like from frostbite.

I go Yeah, I guess

so. It's hard to tell. But I have to assume that if you're, you know, a doctor of sorts, and you're doing like an autopsy on someone, you might be able to, like tell these things? Yes. So seeing the body you can.

Anyone who has blunt trauma to any part of their body, it's very fucking apparent because not only does it damage like the top layer of skin where you get the bruising and the blood pooling, it damages most of the layers all the way through to the bone. We're gonna

have some fun with that in a little bit too.

Well, one of the things they said is that it was almost like they were like, they they got like, subject to extreme pressure. Oh, like extreme pressures.

Like if they'd you know, taking the dive in the Mariana Trench? Sure.

You name it like I don't know. It's realistics go right net Marin Eric.

Let's start a petition to rename the Mariana Trench to the mozzarella stick trend, the

marinara marinera near itself that goes down there has to be legally called the mozzarella stick.

You have to leave one offering of one Jesus prays beyond him. So the bodies that were found in the stream initially had soft tissue damage, which I guess makes sense because the running water? I'm not sure I'm not a doctor. Fuck off. So one was missing an eye. Actually, a couple were missing an eye but one was missing an eye one was missing their like most of their tongue. Someone was missing their eyebrows. And then someone was like missing their eyes and their lips like parts of their

I wish I didn't know this. But the tongue, the eyes, the cheeks and the lips are the four most succulent

food groups. Parts

of the human the highest parts on the food chain. Hmm. And human tastes like animals. Yes, yeah. Animals probably came across these byes and said like those fuckers still have lips look.

I was literally just watching something about this that animals go for the fatty parts of the body. Yeah, and I forget what it also go for the testicles. That's what it was. fuckin I think it was last podcast that I was listening to. And they were talking about this dude who had like, a bunch of animals and he basically found out his wife was cheating on

Yeah,

I was like,

oh God, Tim crops. testicles.

But But anyways, human caviar. Yes, yes.

You're right. My balls is yes.

wants some of this caviar girl.

Yeah, somebody's eating well tonight.

But yeah, I mean, dammit, guys.

I'm sorry.

So yeah, most of the bodies were partially dressed as well. She's kind of weird because I mean for the weather, like why would they not be which actually can does have a small explanation which we'll get to. And then some of the hikers were even wrapped in small pieces of other hikers clothes. So the ones found in the stream, were actually wearing clothes from the other dead hikers, which is kind of bizarre as well. So

we it seems like they came across the other dead hikers first and stole their clothing stole their clothes,

wrapped up very, very short mall.

I haven't much more detail on, you know, who's doing all this as well, that we'll get to I

kind of want to know more about the why though. Like,

it's called negative 30 degree,

but didn't they have like shelter? Well, we're gonna get to that, aren't we? We will, we will get to some serious things.

Fair enough. Fair enough.

So yeah, like I said, some of the hikers were writing the other hikers close. But the official report sums up this is the most accepted of the information. Six of the group members died of hypothermia and three of fatal injuries. There was no indications of other people nearby apart from the nine travelers, the victims have died six to eight hours after their last meal, which, okay, now I get that traces from the camp show that all group members left the campsite of their own

Just the in the bones,

like fractured bones, but no soft tissue damage, which is really bizarre. That's fucking weird.

I hit you with a hammer right now.

Oh, yeah.

I probably shatter part of your shoulder. You'd have a bruise though.

Yeah, that shattered shoulders without bruises.

That's why they talk about the pressure thing because they like seems like it's like they're just like,

they're like popping. Yeah, and their bones, the first ones to be like, Alright, we can't hold

Yeah, pretty much. Um, and then released documents contain no information about the condition of this year's internal organs at all that was just left out of what like all the official reports. And there were no survivors. So once the final ruling would be put out into the public, they claimed that the deaths were due to a compelling natural force. That's what they call this a compelling natural force, which is weird to me. Like they're just like, some

the next day.

Some of the some of the film from one of the hikers cameras was found to be kept in an archive from one of the personal investigators that you know, did one of the original investigations. This was released to the Dyatlov Foundation.

I love your little,

the little Russian.

You've got the fucking Russian accent down.

I try. I really do.

Because I'm like diet lab. He's like dlo

tie, my favorite soda.

And yeah, so that that that footage was released to that foundation. And then fast forward a little bit later, in 2009. Some of the diaries that were found were actually included in Russia's public domain, which is kind of cool, because then they Yeah, more people got to kind of get a peek at what was going on. Even though they probably weren't like this thing is attacking it.

fucking long enough, though.

Yeah, right. Like, fuck, I don't know how long it takes for like, archive documents to go to a public domain like

50 years,

about tracks, then concerns?

Like the JFK files are just now starting to become,

you know, are you starting to like being on the lookout for things that are about to hit like public domain?

Right,

so we can just fucking steal them?

Let's do it. Forget. Yeah. I don't have any public domain. I'm stealing that trick. But yeah, so that hit the public domain. And then fast forward even more, we jumped to April of 2018. And the body of Zola Torres was zoomed. One of the the hikers. And of course, a bunch of contradictory evidence starts coming out, which kind of seemed to rule away from a quote unquote, natural force. But more of what looked like, you know, like we said, being hit by a fucking car,

right.

Which is really crazy. Because of, you know, none

of the it's looking a bit more supernatural, the

natural right, and that's where we're getting fucked and

spicy.

But in 2019, Russian authorities reopen the files and began to kind of investigate a little bit more on the matter. It was then ruled that there were only three possible explanations. And this is from a government standpoint, not a US standpoint.

So take it with a fucking grain of salt.

They said it could have been a hurricane. Nope. A avalanche or a slab avalanche. Which if you want to know what a slab avalanches it's just like a really condensed amount of snow going down like a mountain pass just like a really small area of like, and it's slower because it's

a huge chunk of snow. Think of like an ice shelf. Yeah, in like the Antarctic like glacier moving. Similar, but less ice more snowy, fluffy, white fun.

Yeah. And so basically, they totally ruled out the possibility of it being a crap. And that was like the, as far as I know, the up to date investigative rulings that have come out. But really quick, before I continue, I want to go over a few of the unusual things that they found out during the investigations because they're definitely there. Now. I won't go into any like theories yet or anything like that. But I will just say these are just bits and pieces that were talked about.

maybe someone turned into the Hulk, probably.

I think Russia is just radioactive. I mean,

Chernobyl.

I mean, Russia is huge. I. Yeah. Anyways, yeah. So the tent that they were sleeping in, was actually ripped open from the inside, not from the outside n.

See, that answers my fucking one of my questions like, why did they run away?

Oh, for sure needed to get out of where they were.

Yeah, they were definitely in a rush.

Plus, most tents have like a way to get out. Right.

Yeah. Like, using your knife, you know? Yeah. So that's, that's interesting. Yuri, the one who actually left early in the expedition actually had to come and identify bodies, as well as like some stuff from the campsite. He actually said that he did not recognize a lot of random things that they found at the campsite. He said they almost looked military in origin portraits. So that's kind of you know, do you think

to do with the fucking the documents relating to the Soviet Union youth group, hard quote,

oh, Stalin's youth?

Yeah, Stalin's you know, maybe who fuck knows?

Yeah, I mean, the. That's like, one of the worst parts about this whole thing is that we may actually never really know what happened, but we'll get there. So the lead investigator ivanoff, wrote about bright flying lights being seen in the sky, for like, weeks prior to this expedition. Not to mention, you know, the week that they were on the expedition, like people were reporting these bright ass lights in the sky. No one has a good explanation for them, at least documented that

like, you know, most cops in America like, Oh, 24 hours have gone by. Let's just close this shit. No, no, no, they

have a show called the 4040.

Right? But after that they give donkey. Okay, 48 hours. We have to solve it. Well, that was fucking Monday. It's Wednesday. Now come on, let's go.

That's all shit after. After they ended up closing this. They barred the public from being in the area for three years after the events. So they let no one in the area for three years after this. It perfectly normal super normal. You know, some hikers dive close the whole fucking country down three years. Let's go. Jesus. So that whole area that the and this

was like, this is just a regular ass. There's mountains. There's some small towns like it's not.

Yeah. And I mean, it's there's

a military base or something. Right. I mean, I guess we wouldn't know. But

yeah, I mean, the public wouldn't know for sure. But I mean, think about it. You have a group of hikers perish on a mountain pass. What normally happens, they exude the bodies. They take them away. They do the stuff life continues as it now we have the you know what's now named the Dyatlov Pass closed off for three years after what fucking sense does that make? I don't that does not sit right with me by any means

one of life's many mysteries.

My Hubei is tingling. More does

my bin where does the

from the dryer go? It goes to the dia de la pass Gargamel uses to learn the Smurfs with their knuckles,

right? Doug is crying into his computer right now.

No, but yeah, that's a freaky fucking shit.

Well, there's one last thing that I want to mention and that so when they reopen the case, a lot of investigators that started working on the new like the newly like reopen case version of this said that there was so much evidence missing from the original files that they basically barded as we will never truly know what happened here.

You know, if I were a friend or a loved one of one of the people a part of this expedition, that's exactly what I want to hear. Like, we have no fucking idea. No, none. We're not going to know either. So fuck right off.

Just say your goodbyes. continue on.

Yeah, yep. Jesus. But yeah, that's

that's kind of what I have for the investigation as far as that goes. And it doesn't seem like a lot. It doesn't. It really doesn't. But it spawns so many amazing, amazingly amazing conspiracies around that. Well, the

main the main reason there's so many conspiracies is because of the initial search party that went out and found all these bodies. The details in the bodies is what spawned a lot of the freaky theories and what not.

So what was found was Oh,

yeah, so we got like a nice overview of what happened. And like the initial like broad story, but if you look a little bit more into the details of the the search party from when URI never heard from Igor, he called the police and they sent a search party out to find and look for survivors obviously didn't find any. But what they found was kind of interesting. Like Doug touched on, they found their tent was ripped open from the inside. Why was it like that? Where are they running

can I? If I were to cut my tent open? There are two reasons I do that. One is if something is trying to get in from the other side, something I say that liberally because if it's a person, I don't fucking care. Like I've been camping. I know how that works.

But to cut your own tent open I am mad run out into the freezing fucking cold

I imagine was probably quicker like we you made the reference before that. Why did they just use the zipper or something? I imagine these are like extreme like temperature tents. I doubt they're just held together by zipper. It's probably a lot more. I'm not a professional in camping. But if it's meant to withstand cold, it probably takes a little bit more than a zipper.

Let's see I get that but well, I don't understand why you couldn't use that. Like, why didn't you have time to use the zipper? We might

figure out why. And there's some theories on why that might be. We might we might there's some theories on why they might. But they did find obviously they cut through the tent. A lot of the hikers were barely dressed and it was negative 30 degrees out there. You can find as Doug mentioned before, the footsteps from all nine hikers were found or strikers as we call them. Yes, they were found in a single file like their goddamn sand people who try to hide their numbers.

Sand people sounds worse than Skycar you're saying

first

Hey, may the fourth be with you guys.

Yeah, we are recording on the fourth so please May the fourth be with all of you. Lovely. You all have a happy Revenge of the fifth Yeah,

and and Revenge of the sixth and seventh and eighth and Star Wars. The seventh awakens.

Okay, you're throwing a lot of things to me right now. Like someone tried to rapidly give a tree It was a fire.

So there's a fire at the base of the tree. It's assumed that they're getting up on top of the tree to try to get a better look at their surroundings see if they find anything that's the assumption because why would if there's a fire already made obviously every time you make the fire you wouldn't be if something was chasing you you wouldn't have had the time to make the fire you know fairly assumption is they made the fire got warm, they climbed up to get a better look around.

Okay, it's fair.

So don't want to know that climber that in the first place. So yeah, so, climber, the climber that they found by they found two climbers, I believe by that tree. The first body that was found was Yuri d'Oro. shenko and again,

is Javon the pronunciation Oh, sorry, if I put her no

that was fucking But well, that's the easy one, the next one. But he was the first body found he had burns on his head and foot and he had gray fluid coming out of his mouth. Okay, that was also covered in scrapes and bruises from head to toe. Now it's suggested also that these injuries are were self inflicted. And his cause of death was labeled hypothermia. Now, now the gray fluid you're probably like, that's not normal.

Yeah. What is that?

Apparently and

I'm spinal fluid.

I believe so. Because the way the reason that happened is from a strong force to the chest camera strapped to the chest cavity rupturing your fucking dura

mater getting Yeah.

So they theorize they theorized that he fell out of the tree and that is what caused the blunt force trauma to his chest. Uh huh.

Okay.

The second body that was found. Next door was gencos. Is and I'm sorry, again. Yuri. cravenness. chenko. Cronus Cronus chenko. I and again, got it. Yeah, I'm so sorry. That he was found by door oceanco with heavy bruising, burns on his body as well. And a chunk of his own knuckle lodged in his mouth. What? a chunk of his own knuckle lodged in his mouth. Was he trying to make his own glue? They did. Well, they they're again, they're theorizing that

Oh, yeah. Like during the exam or stay awake.

I just keep in mind anger isn't mine. They're negative 30 degree weather. If you fall asleep, you're probably not waking up. Yeah. So he's probably doing this to give himself pain to keep himself up. At least that's what they're thinking.

I need to stay awake. Let me bite my moose knuckle off.

A few people who know a thing or two about staying away. weird thing is, well, the bodies were shown to have been moved after death. So someone found their bodies perhaps it was the others. And because we were mentioned that the others had their clothing. Yeah, they stumbled upon them. And they took their clothing from them and put their bodies in a more respectable manner.

Who's to say we're just took the clothes or just took the clothes? I mean, that's what I would do. Sorry, Mike. Sorry, Doug.

The third body that's you know, it's fine. I would expect you to do that. If my The only thing I would ask is like if you're going to take my pants just don't have my grundle just out and about please just close your legs back cut it off first. That works. Thank you.

The third body use my pain as a focus effigy.

I will make sure if I strip you guys, because you're dead from hypothermia, or whatever, that I will cut off Mike's grundle and Doug's been and display them in a ritualistic fashion.

You're such a generous man.

I you know, I love my friends.

We appreciate that.

The third body that was found was none other than our boy. Igor dealeth off gore did love and he had abrasions on his knuckles, cuts and bruises on his face. And he was missing an incisor poor poor bastard.

What's an incisor Mike is

for pitch. He'll never live another normal life.

No, please you get first claim to his teeth.

I do I already own them.

Oh shit. All right,

wick. The corn here stated that these injuries were similar to that of a person who was in a fistfight. So they're thinking he was scrapping with someone.

swear he was fighting either a moose or a fucking

whale. Oh, also guess you'll never guess how I'm sorry. I skipped over this. You never guessed so. euery crib bonus gencos cravenness chenko it's hard to pronounce. I'm sorry, but you'll never guess what their cause of death was. It was it was hypothermia. Yeah, I

don't I don't sound right after

thinking that Igor got into a fistfight. Guess what his cause of death also was was it Wales

hyperbolic time chamber.

bombyx Rive. Yes, fate.

lion tamer

I get one more to be done on purpose.

It was hypothermia. shocker.

Are all of these deaths just hypothermia? All? Yes, most of them.

The fourth. The fourth body that was found was Zenaida como korova. And again, I'm sorry.

I'm doing great.

I'm from i'm pronouncing these kind of how they're spelled. Because that's the best I'm going to get beside trying to butcher them with a shitty Russian accent or something. I

think at this point, they get it. Yeah,

I have. I have a proposition. You know that that deal you made with the shot? I'm not making another one like that. No, no, I'm saying replace it. Instead of the shots. You learn Cyrillic.

Yeah, brother take the shots. But cook called mobile rover was found better dressed than the others but had abrasions on her body and a long bruise on her body similar to being beaten with a baton. So it's all up her body

hits bears from the circus. They still like either the trapeze or that fuckin the baton the show mastery, or

was it because they found like military stuff? Was it a military baton?

Huh, they did. They did say that military stuff.

Guess what her cause of death was for 500. Alex, what would it be cholesterol

nose baton

just mentioned the Bataan

Death by over to Asia. I

could have guessed that it was hypo thermea.

hypo permies. Seeing

a fucking pattern here.

Well, one real quick I want to mention, the investigative stuff that I talked about is all stuff that the government put out. Like this wasn't like any off the dude was just writing state. These were official statements. Okay, you didn't hear about any of the bruising, the scrapes the like any of this shit in what I was trying to hide, okay. Just to kind of

hide it. You'll see. Okay, so one week goes by. And Rustom slow button was found face down covered in snow with internal bleeding and his temples and a fractured skull. So he ain't doing too good. No, whatever calls these injuries the professionals have said he survived them for over an hour before death. So he kind of lived through all that shit.

Can you imagine just a Yeti coming up? Like this. And you live and you're like, Well, that wasn't great.

I guess I guess I'll keep living. for about an hour.

I guess I'll die.

I'm over this now.

And then drumroll please guess what his guess was cause death was hypothermia.

I was gonna say he drowned

Yeti sandwich is diabeetus close.

He drowned him. diabeetus

months went by just like Doug said before months went by until a member of the was it Mansi

tribe? Muncie named Nancy met me.

told a member of the Mansi tribe found a den in the snow with all the other bodies the remaining I believe four were in there. It looks like they tried to like dig a little like, under ground like igloo esque thing okay to survive kind

of shelter against yeah

liudmyla Dubin, Nina. She was found draped over a ledge. Her lips were missing. 10 ribs were broken, and her eyes and tongue were gone. Blood found in her stomach show that she was alive when that happened to Whoa. Yep, she was alive and all that shit happened caused the deaths. Guess what it was? hypothermia. I'm kidding. It was hemorrhaging.

Oh shit. Yeah,

it was not hyperthermia. There's a few that were he was hemorrhaging of the heart. So she was one of the

only place to hemorrhage from

probably place that works all that

Simeon Simeon zolo Tory off. He was better dressed than all the others. Wait, wait,

why did you have to include that? He was

looking fucking dapper. Because it's theorized I'll get to in just a second. The

rest of these people look like jackasses now.

Oh, like he's dapper, like he's going to dress way better. He doesn't

like his clothing. As much as

an expedition combined even with all those clothes. He still had three broken ribs. Missing eyebrow tissue to wear his skull on his eyebrows showing any to D bass gash in the back of his head

a deep so he

was also missing his eyes. And yes, a deep SS. Guess his cause of death.

hypothermia. Oh, man.

Take it away Ajani. medical professionals also stated that the campers chest wounds that they all had could not have been caused by another human. I know Doug said that, but I just wanted to reinstate that as well. They were similar to a car crash, like Doug said, but the bodies had no bruising where any of the damage was. So what the fuck? Yeah. And then here's a name. I can't pronounce Alexander. COVID. tough. But it's Alexander which were announced but he spells it a l

hypothermia.

Yeah, this man has a snap neck.

neck. Yeah, that was the cold.

Yep. Oh, for sure. Sometimes it's just

nip and then we have the last one. Nikolai brugnolini. Nicola, it's Nicola Nicola, Nicola, Nicola, Nicola, he had bruising and his face and he was he, which bled internally. He had a shattered skull, yet no damage to the soft tissue. His death was blamed on a powerful force from a non human. The last four had taken clothes from the other bodies to stay warm, at

That's fucking weird. No

explanation has been given how. Real quick, I have an idea. Yes, it's just real quick.

Go ahead.

You gotta stay john human.

Yeah, what? A sci fi episode where I'm like any other entities aside from humans?

So let's get into that, shall we?

Yeah, please. Okay, so how do you fucking just say that?

To me, I would have said so well then interrupt us back. I said, Okay. Yeah, I'm doing that now. So that helps us the whole non human thing helps us get into some of the theories that are going on the most popular ones I have listed here. I'm not going to go over some of the fucking stupid ones. But for example, one of the older theories was the Mansi tribe killed the hikers.

Were they the Mansi? No, that was the name of the

people that they killed. Oh, the strikers they right if you get it, right. The strikers were on Death Mountain, which was home to the Mansi people. And there was even a sacrificial structure found near the campsite.

That's just a but Death Mountain is the home to people. Yes.

But here's the thing. It's not their home. It's their territory.

Oh, they

Yeah, they own it. But the this has kind of been ruled out the Mansi people have been they've already like, gone and public saying like we don't do human sacrifices. That's some fucked up shit. And the sacrificial structure that they found is more than likely for a moose that they killed and they just used its meat and everything. And that's pretty much confirmed because on that structure, you even find moose antlers inside the structure.

That's what people who do sacrifices what

they're trying to get you off the trail. No, we all do this shit. But that was kind of that theory was kind of thrown out way back in like the 70s. And it was kind of just this has been disputed forever now, but that's still one more common ones. Another is obviously the avalanche theory. The area isn't really known to have avalanches, but it's still possible because they're on the base of a

Yeah. Which doesn't make sense to because I found some of the bodies buried so deep 13

fucking feet,

the deepness I can understand from an avalanche that would have buried Oh, yeah,

that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but the fucking physical camp is just yeah.

Also there was there's no records or signs of an avalanche in the area that night. Also, that doesn't explain the fucking radiation.

Yeah, part of that gets me

Yeah. The other one which is the funniest one, but part of the less true one is the fucking Yeti. The campers did. On some of the one of the cameras they found there was a picture A figure in the distance of a forest and it does look like a large, like, darker figure. You can't make out what it is. People think that it's a Yeti and they're in Yeti territory. The only problem is there's no Yeti tracks. So if it's a Bigfoot, you would think you'd find tracks

or it has wings.

Or has wings like a Jersey Devil moth Yeti. Yeah, but that doesn't it again if yetis coming through killing you that doesn't just that doesn't explain the tissue damage without bruises or anything right that also again doesn't explain the radiation unless yetis exclude radiation we don't know we don't know anything about fucking yetis.

But hopefully we will soon maybe another episode maybe

another one is aliens. No, obviously this this one I feel holds up the most.

Especially because like so one thing that I did. Honestly, accidental research on this was all of the accounts kind of state they saw these orbs, these glow. Yeah,

so there was on one of the cameras that they picked up. The The camera was heavily water damaged because it was found buried in snow. So take these pictures with a grain of salt, you can find all these pictures online to have the Yeti and all the lights and everything, it could have been damaged from the camera from water. So who knows that these are actual lights or anything. But on the camera, there are multiple pictures of what looks like lights in the

what's because they're and the the engine, the engine z we'll get we'll get into that.

So that is that's, in my opinion, one of the top like three theories of stand up the most. Another theory is paradoxal on dressing,

where that is actually a fucking real thing. It

is essentially paradoxal and dressing is when you're getting hypothermia, your body freaks the fuck out. And instead of thinking you're cold thinks you're burning hot.

So you start stripping,

you start stripping because you're going crazy, you

think you're burning up when mon reality you're dying. Honestly, most victims of hypothermia, at least when it pertains to like being outdoors and in the elements not so much in like a controlled environment is hypothermia. You almost always find the victims in like their underwear or naked or something like

that. Now one of the only problems here with the paradox on dressing is if all these people were going crazy, and they're thinking they're burning up, why did they build that fire that we found?

And why were the clothing found on like other people? Like why are they paired actually undressed here, and then other people be like, Oh, I'm freezing, I'm gonna take

the only thing I could think of is some person was going crazy. That's why they cut out of the shelter, the crazy person cut out the shelter, they ran out like badass naked. And the other people were just like shit, we need to do what we can to survive this motherfuckers crazy. And that same theory of like maybe a couple of them went crazy and other states saying that's why those for Doug and Dan, while the other ones were fucking climbing trees and are in a river and half naked in a

pressure point I get Yeah,

it creates like a sound wave that we can't hear. It's like a sound. And it when it hits you, it causes you to freak the fuck out. It causes anxiety. It causes panic.

Attacks where mind kind of Yeah.

You're right, that would explain like some of them going crazy. And again, why they might have cut out of their tent. But again, that doesn't explain the radiation. And you're going to tell me that all nine of these people experience the exact same anxiety ridden issue. You know what I mean? It just why would all nine people have

coincidences? We say too much

the Exactly. Maybe the latter.

And I have a big ol orgy and then someone's like, and then like everyone started to

disappear. The last theory that I'll go over that I like love is the Soviet government cover up. The government did bury the report for like three years or so before letting it out to the public. And they were very shady on the details. Maybe the Soviets were testing weapons in the area. Or maybe they were covering up the Yeti or alien attacks. One member of the search party, and I believe it was the URI that stayed back. He even mentioned that he found military boot tracks in the

probably, especially in the 50s and 60s 60s. I do have

theories on the radiation and what happened, but let's kinda

Yeah. So before we kind of dive into what we all think there is some obviously, there's, with any mysterious, weird event like this, there's always going to be some Fallout, there's always going to be, you know, somebody's looking deeper, or somebody's trying to, like, get the story out. And that absolutely happens. I'll be it wasn't as much as I thought it was going to be. Because we seem like take what 911 for example, we get the explanation. And then most of us went, Go fuck

little boy but we're gonna get copyright struck because I'm not too

good

nice Kak.

Like Shadow the Hedgehog once said,

nice. Yeah, nice deck,

nice CAC gets control. So

some researchers actually criticized his work for its concentration on the specular theory of a Soviet secret weapon system. But its publication led to a public discussion and stimulated interest. For those who are interested in the paranormal. Basically, his book like, yes, it wasn't the most based in fact, it was kind of

It's in Russian, I don't understand it.

I've read a few excerpts from translated excerpts, obviously, but it seems like it might go over my fucking head. But the parts that did matter kind of resonated with a bunch of people in Russia, Ukraine, like Europe a lot, eventually over to the US because we have a whole bunch of people talking about this.

A lot of Russians here.

A lot of the people who remain silent for 30 years, actually surfaced and started reporting new facts in like the 80s and 90s. about the accident, one of them was the former was a foreign police officer, love ivanoff. Blood the official inquest in 1959. In 1998 31 years later, he published an article that included his admission, the investigation team had no rational explanation

It's like, um, what is it? The leatherface movies are based on true events, but they are just over over

our faces that

was a game that's based off of No,

take pieces from?

It's like,

yes. butthole Yeah,

that's based on a true story. It's based on a fabricated

story based on six True story. Yeah, pretty

sure it was a guy in Wisconsin that use the hammer. The Hammer like is what it's mainly taken from but besides That's point.

So other than these documentaries that spawn there was a book that came out that includes like these huge broad quotations for the whole case. Which sucks because this isn't something you should be brought about you should be fucking pretty fucking specific

now you're dealing with sun the sun

Yeah, there's no there's not a whole lot of facts here. So I think you should focus on those to try and like bring out the truth

that's quite literally what everyone wants. I'm tired of hearing the story. I want to hear the details right I want to know what happened I know what's going on.

I want to know the hard truth and book spawn that basically just you know, reaffirm the myths that are around this whole situation and there's just not a whole lot of like facts when it comes to this because it How would there be 1959 out in the middle of fucking nowhere No, no cell phones Soviet Russia, there's no

hugely misleading. Although I really wouldn't mind seeing like a blockbuster movie made about this like with either like a Yeti a tie in or a alien tie in like,

Oh, hell yeah, absolutely. I bought something. Yeah, like, Oh,

yeah. Just fucking sequel into the john carpenter. Do your work.

Yeah, please, please, please, please. I fucking love them. And you know, watch that again soon. Um, but anyway, moving on. The last thing that spawned from this whole incident was something called the DLL foundation. It was founded in 1999. And yeah, Ekaterinburg, which is the new name for

a place.

Yeah, it was a fun What was the name of the original? fucking place? scheduled risk of lost? Yep.

The one that we tried out rounds. Yeah, it changed the name. You probably could have said anything there and we would have been like, yep,

sir Comerford or I am agreeing with you. Because I don't know.

In 1999 is now called ye Ekaterinburg. So there's the dia de la Foundation was formed in 1989. With the help of the Ural State Technical University, led by Yuri conserve ish. The foundation's stated aim is to continue the investigation of the case and to maintain the Dyatlov museum to preserve the memory of the dead skaters. On July 1 2016, of America memorial plaque was inaugurated in silico monks what that's Yep,

So many words you just said

there's a lot of Russia. I know. But there's just there's not a whole lot of Aftermath that kind of think carried through for this. And I don't know for something that has so much mystery surrounding it. I kind of figured there'd be a little more but that's Russia. Now

you got to come up with your own conclusion I guess at this point Well speaking of Yeah, what do you got? What do you boys think happened the dog let's start with you because I'm looking right at you right now.

So the rational me definitely feels like this was like some government shit that happened I mean, from the things they found from the hard evidence that people have come forward with I I get a very strong government cover up happening here because you know, one way or another the government ordered it to be closed they ordered this and that they found so many things that kind of just like line up with the whole like government testing of weapons and or just being in the area kind of thing

Yeah, the so when you say government involvement in everything what specific Do you think it's like government weapons Do you think they're covering up for like aliens or something? What do you what what

could be both actually and that was actually something I was just about to get into? Is that the the, you know, the conspiracy me wants it to be alien so bad. Like, that's my fear of the day. It

doesn't make fucking sense. Like,

I think they could have either covered up weapons testing or they could have be covering up UFOs that may have fucked with these heights skaters.

Thank you.

Thank you for correcting yourself. So

like, I don't know the possibilities are really really, honestly limitless as far as what we can say is fact or fiction but Yeah, I guess you know, like I said rational me says government testing of weapons. But the you know, the excited conspiracy theorist of myself wants to say I was aliens.

Jason Oh,

I'm waiting to the end. I'm waiting till the end to well looks like well luyten

Well, cuz I have an excellent go.

I haven't done so well. I

mean, I have a like a real world explanation for radiation and everything. Oh, see, I would like the other. I would like you to go because of that. I think that one might blow your guys's lids off a little bit. All right,

well, so while I was doing research, I found it a few articles actually, that came out. I think it was January 28 of this year, saying there might be an actual scientific explanation for what happened. And what was it was the avalanche called it was a shelf avalanche slab avalanche lab avalanche they ran some simulations now that we've gotten you know, into that was in my ear. Yeah. Yeah. And it is very very possible that that's exactly what caused Yes, it was

The best part is Doug you might like this we can think frozen the movie.

Yep. For

there's there's a guy who worked for the like the Russian like, environmental department or whatever. And he watched frozen. He's like, well, it's some really good snow animation. We could probably use that in a simulation. Yeah, he got in touch with Pixar made the simulation that Jim Jason's talk about

why don't call you Jim. I'm not Jim

made the simulation. Jason's talking about Yeah,

yeah, that's they use the Pixar fucking frozen animation. That was

that was my that was my theory to I was about to I agree with you.

Yeah. And it's like, it makes sense. But the only thing it doesn't fucking explain is the radiation that's recommended play that like debit. avalanches are fine on that explains every other symptom, but the trace radiation found on their clothing and their bodies like that doesn't explain that. So

remember, high school is gonna blow your guys's minds. Yeah, it's probably not there's a very basic reason why there's radiation all around Australia. I am blue balling.

First and foremost shows just radiated in pretty much

no, everything is erased.

I feel pretty confident because that I saw that to where it was the snow simulations and everything kind of prove that it was an avalanche. Obviously, they can't say it for official because they you'll never know. They can't just be like, yep, confirm this avalanche happen, you know, 60 some odd years ago. Yeah. But the lanterns that they were all using. During the past were thorium. God didn't well there it is. Thorium is a radioactive material.

It's radioactive as

much would explain the trace amounts of radio irradiation on a lot of the clothing and in the surrounding area. Because anywhere you have that that thorium torch is going to have small amounts of radiation in the air and on things around it. If you fucking lame it is lame. I'm sorry, but

to pop culture reference. Remember in dark night when Batman radiate certain bills? Yeah, same shit or with people in clothing. Yep. And it's just fun. Yeah, it's radiation. Actually, the

Japanese government's using thorium radiation for a lot of the radioactive water that's left over from the Fukushima their Fukushima meltdown. Never Oh, shit. So they're trying to introduce that water back into nature by using thorium for some reason. I remember how but yeah, but yeah,

Oh, yeah. Um,

I would like to shout out to my references here real quick. Wikipedia for Wikipedia is always going to be a reference. But there's Wikipedia. There's the last pod guys, they go into it really good. I believe it's like Episode

153 something 50 something

but they go into it Really? Well. I also used Nick Crowley on uJs is a really good one who has a

little half hour video, fucking dip this whole thing just and then there's

a woman called Ask a mortician. And that's actually how I found the frozen Pixar simulation theory, which is what sparked my interest and she actually went into the thorian thing as well. So big props to her and her channel. Go look it up. It's really awesome.

I want to shout out my buddy Jake for being the guy who told me about this topic in the first place for my own research. He was the one that introduced me to the topic and then I watched a video or two of it and here we are.

You see I didn't until you guys brought it up. I'd heard the fucking name. I've never been wanting to do this one for a while. I

just, there's so many other topics. I'm glad you kind of brought it up, Doug, because this is kind of on my, like, bottom of the barrel things because it's such like a go to one for me like if I'm out of ideas it's Dyatlov Pascoe.

Well, I mean, the fucking go to ones are we going to be the best ones? Yeah, true. And honestly, I think this was a bit of fucking fantasy. Yeah, um, was Thoreau's fuck yeah,

we better Donner party.

Yeah, it's we literally just we took this age fucking old mystery. We dissected it, we took all the theories looked at what could possibly have been happening. The best part is though, once again we're going to be one of the first mediums to kind of give the full story because like I said, this there are a few others for sure that more so on but they're more so on like the like the article medium like written word not so much you know, video, audio, if I'm wrong, I'll cut off

sorry, going back to the like our thoughts and everything again that the avalanche sounds like the real thing that happened but the conspiracy theorists to me thinks it's a combination of the Soviet government cover up and the aliens it was actually aliens that did all this because the radio and everything, and then the Soviet government actually decided they were going to cover up the aliens because they don't want the people knowing about

Yeah, it was a Yeti. That was intense.

Yeah. And it's either assignment that's the lizard people it's the greys the greys ones the the men and black

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Find a Yeti rip his pain off throw it at Mike if you can find Mike in the real life just take a Yeti pain slot I

was faced with the Yeti plain tree comm slash Julie pod have sex with a lizard person. they'll like it you'll

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Well guys, thanks for coming out. We're gonna end it here. Now.

Mike's going off on this finish. I

don't know how many more of these we can handle. We love you guys. Have a great night.

You got anything to say? Mike? Are you just silent now? We were Miko.

He was just here.

The aliens did 911

Thank you so much.

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