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Why I’ll Always Keep My Scribe (Even With AI)

Aug 18, 202519 min
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Episode description

This episode of Podiatry Practice Mastery explores the role of a medical scribe in my clinic, the fears AI is creating in the workplace, and why I see scribes as one of the best investments in efficiency and patient care.


You’ll learn:

• Why a scribe is more than just a note-taker.

• How buying back your time can transform your practice and life.

• The hidden risks of replacing people with AI too quickly.

• A behind-the-scenes look at what a 50-patient Friday actually looks like in practice.


👉 Tune in to see how outsourcing and smart delegation can help you grow your practice while giving you more time for what matters most.

Transcript

Today I received a curious WhatsApp from my scribe and I didn't know why. It was a Friday afternoon. He sent me a message at home he wanted to talk to me, not at the office and I and I really couldn't figure out why. And the reason he was calling is he was concerned because in his company, AI seemed to be like taking the place of all the scribes. Hello, my name is Don Pelto. This is Podacha Practice Mastery. We're helping you bring a practice to the $1,000,000 mark

and beyond. Today I'm going to start out talking about my the fears of my scribe and why I reassured him that I'm going to keep him in my in my practice helping me for those that don't have a scribe, I was kind of a a late adopter to getting a scribe, but I think it is pretty much the most beneficial aspect of my practice that has helped me to be more present with my patients and do all the other things during the day and all the other things that I have to do in life during

my work day so I can kind of buy my time back. So I think of my scribe more so of buying my time back than I do anything else. There's a good book, I think it's by Dan Martell that says it's called buy your time back and it is expensive expense, expensive expense. It is expensive. So if I look at my, my sheet like we get our expenses for the practice, it ends up being about $30,000 a year. And you might think, Oh my goodness, 30,000. Well it is pre tax.

So I, I actually save 30% because it comes directly out. So I save 30%. But more importantly, I want to talk a little bit about what a scribe does for me in the office. He, he, first of all, it took me

3 months. So he's now up and running with Mod Med. We recently switched from Athena to Mod Med. We're three to four months in now and he does all, all my notes, He does all of my prescriptions, he does all of my physical therapy orders, MRI orders, pathology orders, he does all that stuff. He sends messages to my staff to schedule surgery. He has like a little templates I've given him in Google Docs where he can know the types of surgeries that I do.

He also reminds me of things. So when we're in, in the treatment room, he'll remind me that, you know, this patient needs to do an ABI, This patient needs to do a diabetic foot exam. And he's getting to kind of almost be an extension of, of, of myself in the practice for, for doing things. So it makes it a lot easier. And I know the concern what's happening in his work situation is like, I'm the only one that uses a scribe, I guess in his

whole building five days a week. So he must be working. I think he's working 40 to 50 hours with me and the other scribes. They might be working 2 days, might be working 3 days. And he, he's kind of scared for his job. But I'm not sure if AI can do all of that. I know I've worked with some doctors and they use AI and they, they like listen to the conversation and then maybe do some notes and things like that. But then I, I'm, I'm assuming, but I, I really don't know.

So I'd like to know if any of you do use AI. Like when I do a note, I just go in, login and I sign the note. I don't really have to do any edits. I'm thinking with AI you might have to edit things. You might have to edit the, I don't know if you can do ADMB prescriptions and all these other types of orders that, that he does for me. So I, I still think having a, a live scribe can be beneficial. Yes, it's an investment, but it's a way of buying your time back.

And, and while I'm talking about buying time back, many, many docs that I, that I talk with, they want to be more efficient and they're not, they're not really willing to invest in themselves. And this is something that I've learned, I learned this a long time ago. I'm not exactly sure from who, but I try to buy my time back in multiple ways in the office. Other ways you can buy your time back is with technology. So I'm a big advocate of virtual

assistants. So I do also have virtual assistants for example that answer our phones that buys our regular staff back. I have virtual assistants that help editing my videos. So I upload my videos. When I do my I try to do 1 YouTube short a day. I mean, maybe I'll like stack them like do multiple in a day and then my virtual assistant will do that. And then I use a technology called repurpose dot IO that sends it to all my social media. So I kind of use technology that

way. And I and I think it would be different if I didn't have other things to do during the day. So for example, I'm real involved in my church and I have other types of activities I do during the day in between patients. And I think that the main difference is my other colleagues, they're just doing notes the whole time and I'm able to do these other things. So I, and I value that because otherwise I'd have to do that at

night or weekend. A couple of other things, I don't know if you guys have thought about this, but like once you get to a certain amount of income, it's, it's, I think it's better to outsource things that you don't like to do. So I, I outsource a lot of things in my house. For example, I have someone that cuts my lawn. I have someone that cleans my pool. I have someone that cleans my Jacuzzi. I have someone that these, so you know, these things I didn't

put in my house. I, they were in my house when I, when I got it, I had a handyman. I have a handyman that came and he did about almost $2500 worth of work, but just stuff I, I'm not very good at, like hanging up things, changing faucets, putting caulk in, in, in, in our kitchen. So he just got done doing a lot of these things and I think of this like really frees me up and I'm not too good at those things

either. So I think, you know, both my scribe and these other things, I think they give you more time back to do what you want. And specifically in the practice, it helps me to be more present. So my typical workflow with Murali is I'll review the X-rays before with him and then sometimes I'll review them with patients, not always and but I'll just be present with the patients doing my treatment sheets, really being really

involved. And I find that I'm able to offer more things to patients in terms of treatments because I don't have to document it. I know it sounds funny, but a lot of times it takes more time to document something that you're going to recommend than it is to actually recommend it. And I find there's no excuses for me now that he's listening. And so it's a real easy process. I just have a second phone.

So I have another Samsung phone with a phone number that we call in. It's a Microsoft Teams phone number. And I could, when I was training him, I had him on the computer on Teams and I was sharing him with my screen. But now we just do it over the phone and then he just listens all day and I have to make sure I mute him. Sometimes I forget to mute him when I go to the bathroom, but that's kind of beyond the scope

of this podcast. But so that is I wanted to just talk a little bit about how I use my scribe and it kind of how that makes things more efficient. So I would encourage you to do that if if you are at a certain level where you're not having enough time in your life, you're not have you're just too busy. Take some of these things that that you don't like to do. Now, I would love to have someone coming in, for example, do our laundry.

We already have a house, you know, person that comes in and cleans every couple weeks. But someone do the laundry for my wife, but she's not interested in that. So I can't buy her time back if she doesn't want to. And so there are other things that, and I'd like to do, but that's part of the benefit of like having a partner at my work or a wife here at home. Because I otherwise I would probably spend everything buying all my time back and then I wouldn't, I don't know what I would do.

I, I try to do more of the things that I like to do, which is like these things. OK, let's go into the day. This was a Friday that I am recording my my treatments here, the first half of it. So this was a kind of a different Friday was a pretty successful one. But I'm going to say the pros and the cons. So this day, and I'm not, I'm not, how do you say bragging about this? And I don't normally see this many patients, but we saw 50 patients.

No, I'm not a person. If you look at my numbers, normally it's 20/22/23 patients when I'm in a normal day. Friday is my routine day and I and I have been having Marjorie. So she's my nail tech. So we together, I think we probably saw probably 40 or 35 in the morning. And then in the afternoon I just saw my normal 10 or 12. OK, that, that's how it was. But the morning was pretty busy. Thankfully we stayed on time, but there was some drawbacks and

let me explain. So first of all, Marjorie, she forgot her, she has these little glasses that she use like almost like loops, surgical loops, but they're for nail tech. She forgot them. She had to leave, but that was no big deal. I, I was able to do the, do the, the treatments. So I, I do all the treatments and so usually it's nails and calluses for the patients. And the, the challenge with seeing that many is Murali gets bogged down and he is just basically just working on the

notes. And so I'll, I'll type little notes in into, there's a little like a little note section in my EMR if it's something different. So if it's the same, he knows it's the same. So trim nails and calluses the same thing. The, the challenge is when I'm seeing that many, I think we're losing money for in two specific aspects. 1 is that I, I was doing AB is once a year and there was no recall system because Murali is too far behind

to remind me and I don't look. And the second thing is I wasn't doing diabetic foot exams once again, because I'm, I'm not like logging into every single patient to, to do that. And so I think it to do it better, I may have to log in every single time, especially if Morali was behind trying to work on all these notes because I'm doing the joke is it takes me less time to do the nails and calluses than it does for him to

do the notes. So I think if I didn't have a scribe, it would be a lot harder. So I think those are two drawbacks. And I guess, yeah. So I'm not doing as many Abis, not doing so many diabetic foot exams. And so I think and also I'm not looking as much for other type of pathology when I'm that busy, when I'm that busy. So I just want to go through the kind of the pros and the cons of having described the benefit is certainly we're seeing more patients. Marjorie is getting very good at

nails and helping me out. And so I it was a good choice. And I guess the other drawback, because we have a second provider, another doc in the office that day and we only have six treatment rooms. So basically I'm commanding 4, he's only getting 2. So it kind of potentially could slow him down. And then last week, for example, we just got I, I, I delete, I tend to get a little distracted once in a while, as you can imagine, by these podcasts by

doing things. And so I was like running 20 minutes late and just threw the whole day off. And there was like standing room only in the waiting room because you're pushing that many patients and we don't have a ton of chairs in our waiting room. And so it just what it was my fault when I, you know, when I, when I got behind. OK, let's go into the day after that, the afternoon. The first patient was a 91 year old male. He had a, a laceration on the anterior aspect of the leg.

He was there for routine care, had a little laceration due to his swelling. He was kind of slow to heal and draining because of the venous stasis he has. So we did a UNU boot on him. A lot of the times in the past, I was very, I kind of still, I'm needy. That's what my staff tell me. But I was more needy. And now I've realized it's just easier for me to do the una boot than have my staff, especially on Fridays or you know, the days

when they're really busy. I do train my staff to do that. But it was just, it was just easier for me to do the, the una boot. Usually they do una boots for me. Next was a 59 year old man. He had an orthotic adjustment. This was kind of a struggle because he was dissatisfied with the orthotics. He he he had more of like a cave his foot, so he needed more of like a lateral, A lateral wedge on on the device because he was leaning over too much to the like the lateral aspect of his

foot. That the challenge was is when he picked up his orthotic, he didn't make the six week follow up, which which I don't know if the staff are saying. So I have to check with my staff. I don't know if they're saying it's optional, but he didn't make it. And so he was upset he had to come back. But I just kind of explained, you know, it's normal to have adjustments. I made the adjustment. I, I re took pictures of his foot and they're going to send a new, new device with some built

up laterally. And he might be better off actually, because when they send us a new pair, they don't take back the old pair And I, I kind of Jerry rake them with some lateral posting and it felt better for him. So that was that was that patient. Next was a 78 year old female status post fracture of the 2nd digit. She is, she had routine care as well. So some of these routines, I don't know why they're showing up on my afternoon. They usually don't. I think it's because they had

additional things. This was like status post fracture and they're just showing up and I'm doing the routine as well. I think sometimes my staff just don't know where to put them, especially when we have a virtual assistant scheduling. I think he just puts them wherever 85 year old female, new patient routine. So routines, new patients that are routine. I don't make them see me on Friday mornings.

They can see me any day, but then I have to follow up on the on the Friday with me or one of the other doctors. Next was a 86 year old male that that had a right had right ankle pain. Now this is interesting. This gentleman, he came in, he had right ankle pain and he saw my blog on ultrasound. He came in, he said, you know, I don't want X-ray. I, I think I had an X-ray before I want an ultrasound because I saw your blog.

So we sent out a blog, we sent out a newsletter once a week and this newsletter was about ultrasounds and that's why he came in for that. So we did an ultrasound. He had a little swelling around the tib bands in that area and a fusion. And so I did a little, little cortisone injection, but one CC in there. Next was a 50 year old female. She had left plantar fasciitis. She's #5 out of 6 of of Shockwave next was a 38 year old

female. She had a right foot Aquinas and this one here she had a lot of tightness that was causing some some arch pain. So not really plantar fascial pain, but more on the arch and I think it was all due to the Aquinas. So I did my dynamic demonstration that I told you about where I take like this orba ball or B and and I rolled out the back of the calf and and then her arch pain kind of like went away magically.

So she got night splint foam rolling with that or ball and then in the morning stretch for her and I'm going to see her back as needed. Next was a 85 year old female that had left foot Cellulitis. I gave her an antibiotic and put her in a surgical shoe. Next was a 35 year old female. She had a left 5th met fracture. Now this was an interesting one. She was in a surgical shoe and it's been about 3 months actually. Sorry this is not the fifth met.

This is a 5th digit. This is interesting because she had a fracture right at the DIPJ and I looked at her previous X-rays and it was originally was a fused 5th toe at the DIPJ which is pretty common and she fractured right through it and she was in a Cam boot for three months, wasn't getting better. I'm sorry she was in a surgical shoe wasn't immobilizing it enough. So we put her in a Cam boot.

I'm going to try one more month and if not I told her about doing shockwave focused only or non radial only. I'm starting to call things in the office either radial or non radial. Just the reason for that is because we have two focused device, but they don't they're not OK. We have we have the, the, the, the storage device which is really focused and then the, the software which they call unfocused. So to not 'cause confusion and they do very similar things.

We when we, when we build things and when we schedule things, we say we're going to do radial and non radial versus focused or unfocused to not to not confuse things. And then the the last one's a 49 year old female for left fourth met base fracture. So this was a patient. She is a diabetic neuropathic fracture to 4th met base. She's a teacher. She's really not getting better with this. And she had been in a Cam boot

and it's been about four months. And I'm, I'm, I'm concerned that these ones delay, tend to delay and due to her neuropathy, I'm concerned it could, you know, turn into like a shark go foot or something else if she just keeps walking on the darn thing. So I recommended number one out of four for focused only shockwave. So she did number one out of four. I'm, I'm for, for, for the OR non radial. So for the non radial one, I'm, I'm still doing 4 for the bone fractures.

And I've started to offer patients if they want quicker treatments or to get not, not really better faster, but if they just want to get the treatments better, they can do treatments every three to seven days. Majority do every seven days for the finances, but some want to get things done faster, so they do it every three days. So this is something that I've been offering to patients more frequently and some of them are taking up on it only because they want to get things done faster.

I think there is always a desire with patients for speed and I think that's the benefit of Shockwave to begin with is they want a speedier recovery then they would normally just waiting. So I think a lot of things you can, so you can both speed it up with Shockwave, but then offer them, hey, you can come in every three days. It might be logistically a little bit of a challenge for the practice if you're if you're too busy with patients.

Like certainly as you can see, like shock waves really glut my glut, my schedule, but there's not enough patients for me to offload the shockwave yet. I've thought about like if I took a day off, that would be nice. I could take a day off, have someone else do the shock waves and then I would be at about the same demand for patients.

But right now there's not that much demand because if I didn't have all these shock waves in my schedule, it may be a lighter schedule for me. That's that's where I feel that's kind of the fear of where I'm at right now. OK, once again, I hope you guys enjoyed this. I am putting together a challenge, a six month challenge for a few select podiatrist if you want to be part of it. It'll be helping to get your practice to the $1,000,000 mark

and beyond. If you've heard these things we've talked about here, if I'm the beneficial, we'll kind of work with them in a small group we're going to be meeting once a month and they're going to have like small group like conversations via WhatsApp. OK. If you're interested, shoot me an e-mail don@podiatrypracticemastery.com or you can go to that website and learn more about it. OK, Talk to you tomorrow.

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