Waking Up to a Nightmare: Double Murder on Live TV with Javier Leiva

Journalist /podcast host Javier Leiva (Pretend Radio and Criminal Conduct) worked alongside future murderer Vester Lee Flanagan II (aka Bryce Williams) at CBS affiliate WDBJ in Roanoke, Virginia. They lost contact, but Javier vividly remembers the morning Vester opened fire on two colleagues (Alison Parker and Adam Ward) on live television, August 26, 2015. This explicit, public tragedy even caught the attention of President Obama. Javier looks back on the hours spent with Vester and wonders what could have prevented the ambush, what signs were missed, and how this tragedy reinforced Javier's awareness that life is fragile.

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