If you listen to episode four forty one, you heard where a wolf might come on and talk about the various dog Man clans he's been interacting with over in England. Well, since that episode, Ere and I decided to collect listeners submitted questions from Mike and that's what he's come back on tonight to do, is to answer those questions and share more experiences with us. Mike, thanks so much for coming back. Yeah, I know the problem. Thanks
for having me. Oh, you know, you're welcome. It's good having you. Mike. You're featured on episode four forty one. On that show, you talked about several encounters you had while interacting with dog me and clans in your area. For anyone listening who missed that show, please tell them about yourself. Well, fifty eight I work in corporate security. Before that, I was in the Army right now half years and before that left overseas for about two and half years. But I was born in Rainy, raised
an accounty of Cheshire. Wow, you've done a lot in fifty eight years. Yeah. Yeah, I was ating half years in the Army. I've been jaying corporate security about twenty five years now. Yeah, i'd say you have done a lot in your fifty eight years. If you've had a dog mean encounter, I would like to speak with me about it, whether I'm private run the show. Please go to dog Mean Encounters dot com and submit
a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest on one of my two big foot shows, please to my Bigfoot Saving dot com and let me know mic Er. They're any other experiences that you've had that you didn't share an episode four forty one that you wouldn't mind sharing with us tonight. Yeah, I believe I didn't go into much detail about Gloucestershire. There's a district bad glasshouse, it's face included, heavily wooded.
It's a beautiful rural site, some nice small villages. You drive off the main road about two miles down a single country lane and you're you're just like in a different part of the world. But the place it's just silence, you know, except the biggle. I'm sort of going about the daily business. But you know, hardly the birds ever seeing. I say, I mean, I think I said before, like the squirrels kind of tipto woods.
But yeah, it's in the Forest of Dean on the right side of the River seven and then on the obviously side Wales, and I'm not sure if it's the same pack or two different packs, but on the English side around glass House Forests Dean is about ten miles southwest, which is near the forested Dean. But glass House is a wonderful rural areas but it's beautiful,
some really nice villages. Anyway, how I came to find glass House, I was just looking at Google Maps one day on a phone and I just sort of got a feeling that, you know, there might be something there. So I drove up there one day looking around. I mean actually at the time, this is with me, and there was a beautiful rural pub that I seemed to open like four days a week. And then we started walking around some of the planes and we kind of noticed that there was no
bird thing. You could see the bird, but there was just an all the birds were singing were sort of deer, and we didn't stay too long. I just wanted to see what lay the land was like. And then a couple of weeks later went back, and this time we went for a walk around the woods and it was sort of like a community living in yets or tent, you know, the Mongol yets. I wouldn't describe it as
a hash round, but yeah, the huge generator going. And as we were walking around the single track plane in the middle of the wood, I noticed over to my left there was one sat there on all fours and I sort of looked at it, and it quickly moved from left or right right behind it and it got in behind my missus, and you know, I said to her, so turning the spade, look at me, and I took a picture rather and the thing was right behind her, and I would
say it was stood about sort of head height shoulder level on all fours behind her, and it was sort of chucked in between some bushes and a fence line. Anyway, she turned around, she never saw it, and we just carried on walking. I've been back there a couple of times myself individually. But you really on one side of the woods, you really have to go up maybe about half an hour mile of the country lane, and then
it kind of splits into two left and right. Now. I sort of got the left side and you get some sort of bogging marshy land, which is pretty hard to get around, but this sort of crosses smoking terrain and then the tree line starts again up the top of the ridge and you can sort of sometimes took her head up and just d the peak. But there was another time when we went back the message, and this time we plucked on the reverse side of the woodlands round glasshouse and there was a missing person
poster for a builder. But you know, I didn't do any follow adn't s see he'd ever been found. But it's a beautiful spot. There's cannot chase. Been up there with a couple of meetings back in the day. I've been up there by myself a couple of times. I mean this was
going back when I first started out. There's a location up there called the German Cemetery and it has a German military buried in there from the First War and the Second World War, and there's a world documentary account I think one of the grounds and come in early one morning and seeing a large black eye.
People came in walking around the cemetery. And the first time I went up there, there was actually a structure felt actually on the side of the road, just like in plain site wasn't hidden and he certainly didn't look human. You know, it was made by him in hands. There's a lot, an awful lot of interesting stuff. But as I got back in the car to have my lunch, I just noticed so so left this like this little warf like head just pop up. So I actually got out to see
and get close the fingered right away. And another time I was up there, I went to another part of the wood where there's a quarry. I think it's still being worked, but I don't know if it's the same in America, but I seem to have a bit of a fascination with quarries used and unused, and walking down the road, down the step track in the
middle of the wood that led to the coin. As I started going Maruna to the rights, feeling, I'm just like, now go away, now turn around and walk away, which I did, but I got because I'm going up to the main road. I stopped pathway and I turned around. I took the picture and there was one just hiding in between some trees, and I just carried on my way back. They've been up to kind of
Chase twice individually and twice for group meetings with an organization. But we had a couple of meetings there and didn't see anything, but we just thought, you know, just always had this feeling of being watched. And after one meeting, a couple of the guys stayed behind to camp and something was growling at the guys under the canopy, and they thought it was a couple of
members that had stayed behind to play pranks on them. But you know, these guys were told, well, no, no one stayed behind, no one played any pranks. So I think they probably had a genuine both circling and then sort of growling up and then just didn't want them there. So canic chases spot. There's all kinds of weird and wonderful stuff that goes up there. I had a one in another one in Cheshire about a year ago when I was no. Two years ago, when I was visiting home.
The back window of where my folks there, that it crosses an open field right undt the moors and there's an old sort of boy Scout camp and there's some trees there now, but back in the date used to along to the sort of Girl Guide Boy Scouts Association, and there's trees in there now and I've got a couple of pictures from where they're just sort of stinging to head out of the tree line above the stung war looking directly into the house from
the back. From where I live here, it crosses arms to the moors Sterndale or more, and that goes into Derbyshire and there's a place called le Dale whaley Bridge, and they've been reported around there, and there's one walking across the tops behind Whaley Bridge a broad daylight, not a care in the world. And this is what really fascinates you know here Sometimes you get people saying, oh, it was really aggressive, or it was just growing,
it was showing all his teeth. Couldn't care less if they've seen in broad daylight. It's almost like a nonchalance or a certain arrogance. It's like nothing can be done to them. And if you could do something, what you're going to do because they say they can get away quite easily. But they seemed to have a rather lars a fair about, you know, being seen
or getting close to somebody. I mean one of the first ones I ever had, I would say it was parked up going down the pathway in the woods at Noony and there was one just sat there and again well, it back to me. I was no closer, probably about three five feet he sang its launches. It's four foot and the cup was immaculate, and it didn't even turn around to look at me, but you know I was looking at I was. I was really transfixed looking at the at its back and
the hair or the fur, the coat. It was just immaculate. But December twenty eighteen in Noony Woods, it was a mesty day. It was one to my front, and I mean it was making no bones about hiding, and it was definitely sort of like you can see me and I can
see you. And then I just started getting a feeling that was one on my left and there was on my right, and you know, I was surrounded, and being an ex soldier, you can either take that as a defensive stance that can be easily turned into an offensive situation, but it's it's the guy at the front that's kind of got your attention, and it's either going to be one from the left of the right. It's going to bite on the back of the neck, breaking your neck because you know the other
two were concealed. But it's just you suddenly realize that something's not right. Here, and then you started getting a feeling. There was one on my left, and then there was one on my right. But I think that was more for their I suppose it would be strange to say for their own safety. They were sort of trying to get a size because they always seem to know if you're looking for them. And I say, but there was one that was just clearly sort of like I'm over here, and obviously it
got my attention. Obviously, you know, this is the second year I was into the subject, and obviously you know it's quite exciting. And then you suddenly realize, you know, a certain point, you get it's creeping feeling. You know, there's one to my left, there's one to my right. So you know, I just kind of stopped. After a couple of minutes, this thing disappeared, and you know, I kind of eased back a bit because that sort of feeling on my left and right had gone.
But I would say, I mean, even when I walked in on them hunting, they just carry on. But the first time I actually walked in on them again there was three of them, I just froze and I was just absolutely petrified because this thing just came out of the undergrowth from nowhere. I didn't even see it, and it just it was low to the ground. It just seems like it was gliding, but it was moving. And then it turned left into the tree line and then came back around on
the right another time. I think I said in the first interview with Vic, I was finding some tracks and I suddenly just got I was really petrified. It's got this real sensation that whatever it was like two hundred meters in front of me, and it was like whatever it was, it was really really hungry, and he just didn't care what he was going to eat. I just got out of there. And that's even on my own patch, and I've only had twice that that's a fear, you know, I mean,
being really petrified, absolutely scared witless. But normally I just walk around there. I mean, I mean earlier this year, it was just the weather was just absolutely horrible and I was up in the woods and there it was just absolutely chucking it down with rain. I'm just stood under a tree trying to do my best, and no more than maybe about ten meters there's one next to a tree there trying to do the same thing. Get out of the rain, But yeah, that one into Sumber twenty eighteen, there
was you know, it was just like boulders Brass. So I think maybe that was an exercising sort of way up me or just maybe sizing me up. Really, yeah, it sounds like that just might be what was going on, Mike. I've collected several questions from people who listened to episode four forty one you've agreed the answering to night Chill. The first one's from Monroe Divine. She actually sent in quite a few questions. Her first question reads,
do you think they can talk or communicate? Yeah, I'm certainly belong in that category that they can communicate using mind speak or certainly some sort of visual connection. I mean for me, it's it's definitely like with dreams. I mean they're in my dreams. I mean a couple of them have been absolutely vivid, like it was a real time event. But yeah, certainly they can communicate. I think some more people more developing themselves and certainly get
the mind speak. You know, there is that sort of level of communication which I think is the same with Sasquatch or save people. But yeah, sure, yeah, absolutely. She's got several other questions that she's sent in as well. The next one reads, was there one in your house? Or when it was in your house, you didn't see the dog man. Why do you think that was? Because they have a cloaking mechanism that they can sort of like one minute you see them, one minute the next.
I mean, certainly, you know that time when I was in bed and it was tapping me on the shoulder, I heard it moved down to the end of the bed, but when I worked up there was nothing there. And certainly, I mean, I've had a situation moment missus. You know, she rang out, I'm out there. Just smell that smaller dog again in the house. I'll repeat, we do not have a dog. We don't own patch, we don't even know the own a goldfish. But she said there was a heavy, smaller dog in the house and she was out.
She went for a couple of hours. Personally, I think they have the same ability like sasquatch or the subway people, that they can somehow manifest like a portal or a device where they can sort of move in and out different areas. But certainly, that time when it was at the house tapping on my shoulder, it's just when it was breathingt on me. You just
don't forget stuff like that. And then when it was tapping me on my shoulder and you know, it moves to the end of the bed, I thought, right, I'm going to count tend that I want to scream like a big girl because I was expecting something there and it wasn't. So that kind of sort of deflected the balloon of excitement. But yeah, I think they have the ability to cloak. You know, certainly in the natural woodland,
they cloak a lot, or I used to call it ghosting. It kind of seemed like that because I got pictures where they're half invisible and half physically seen. But I think they have a natural mechanism on how they can do that. I don't there's anything magical in that aspect. I think they have a natural biological function that can make them sort of do or what it may appear to be like magic, is to sort of like momentut you see
them, momentute you don't, because it's the same like with sasquatch. You know, there's lots of accounts where suddenly you see them the w minute they're just you know, they're gone, like they're just appeared, but they're still physically there. But I believe they have a natural biological mechanism that can actually make them sort of be there one minute and gone the next. If that's the keys, just imagine how many times people walk right past the dog.
Mean, that's cloakeding. They don't even know it. Oh, I mean there's I mean, I think there is a video on YouTube like twenty Strange Things Caught on video, and there's like a barber shop in Brazil and it's
an internal close circuit television camera overlooking the street and it's at nighttime. You see this natural dog walking down the street, and then right behind it, you can you can make the outline of what you would call a classic dog man just tick tone behind it. But the guys in the barbershop don't see it, but you can see the outline on camera, almost like it's a ghost. So I mean they come into town. I mean, and this this image is actually caught inside it harbor shop. I don't know what town
in Brazil it was, but he said, you know it was. It was caught on a CCTV in Brazil. So yeah, they certainly have this ability. Sure, Yeah, that's a pretty unnerving thought. Her next question reads, what do you think the reason is for the clothing and other items you found in the woods? Are they some kind of trophy or do you think these beings can cheap shift? And are they predominantly items from children or
adults too? Both? But the items are predominantly both children adults. But it's just stuff that you find for children that you know, just really kind of throws you because you think, well, you know, what kind of negligent parent would leave a Charles Wellington's in the middle of puppy. You know, you're thinking, well, they make the child walk all the way back to the car and cold wet mud, or Jackie's just hung up. Sometimes, you know, I kind of think maybe they steal stuff from clothing lines
or washing that's to shape shifters. This way, I don't discount that there might be something or you know, that something like that might exist. You know, a person that may come across as normal as an ability to maybe do something extraordinary. I mean it was at the Navajo culing skin walkers, where they actually wear the skin of an animal and then become the animal or somehow shift into that animal. I certainly believe that maybe something like that might
exist. I've never experienced it. I've never seen it. I've heard one or two accounts from people who said they saw something, But you know, it's like, I don't discount it. I'm sort of like, if I see it, then I believe it. But when you hear this from people and you can tell him the voice, you know they're quite shaken. It's not like where you're down at the bar and you're telling at all tale from when like you were twenty years old or something like that. But you know
you can tell that in the voice that they're not pulling your leg. But as for clothing in the wood and all that hates odd, I can only assume that they do it for kicks or they just got this fascination we're taking clothing. I can't give a definitive answer on that, to be honest, I can just give you know, what I think might be happening, or just a working theory, you know, until I come across something else that where I can go that's why they do what they do. But to be
honest, really it's just a couple of ideas. Really. Her next question reads, do you believe dogment are responsible for slaughtered animals in the area. Yes, yeah, I mean maybe some of the survey people or sasquatch they take sheep, but certainly where sheep are concerned. I mean, I mean there are dog attacks, you know, domestic canines and their owners, you know, them in the fields and you know the dog just bolts and goes
for the sheet. But certainly at night where we've had multiple sheep kills, you know, especially well, I mean I think twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen a farm to start suddenly Henley on Thames, one hundred and twenty sheet killed in one night twenty eight one hundred were literally run to the point where they all died from heart attack, which to be fair, is quite common.
I mean, we have over thirty four million sheep in this country and I think that the last reported total for sheep deaths I think was maybe five years ago. Well we had fifteen thousand, just over fifteen thousand reported due to K nine attacks, that was the term reference. But ever since then they stopped reporting them. I don't know why. Let's say we've got big cats
here. They take the sheep, they go for the deer, and so we got a lot of rabbits and what have you, but certainly in particular for sheep because basically the insurance claims on the livestock, you know, because the costs are going up. And twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, I think
they stopped reporting sheet deaths for whatever reason. But certainly, like I said, I had a relative contact me about an incident outside michaels Field, which is a town in the northwest of this country, near a place called Sutton Forest, where there was ten sheep killed and three were physically ripped apart, and you said the bike marks on the rump of one. It was jews
from a single creature. It wasn't like multiple canines biting. This was a full grown sheet and the jews were big enough for the rump of the sheet to fit in the mouth. And then this thing proceeded to rip the legs out physically while this thing was still alive. So that wasn't fired out the Labrador that they did that, that's for sure. But yeah, I mean it's certainly twenty twenty eighteen. I think that was the last set of official
figures and then for some reason they stopped reporting them. I mean, I'll be honest, I've not checked lately, but it was certainly, and the execuse was because the insurance costs kept going up. They just didn't want people finding out the figures for whatever reason. Yeah, that's a lot of sheep. Her next one reads, do you think or believe that the government there is actively trying to scare you away from the dog man? Or do you
think that locals are and they're doing it for other reasons? But the locals, it's just quite you know, simply, I've never seen anything, never heard anything, and if I did, you know, I wouldn't tell you. Or you know, you're being silly, go away sort of thing. I certainly think. I mean, the first time I started getting the run around from what I believe to be an authority, it was awkward. So
I got the feeling that, you know, it's awkward. But the same time around, it was just like, oh, you've got to take care of this guy for the next two weeks before we move on to the next guy. It didn't seem as many singers the first time around. I'm pretty sure they'd do it too. A lot of people. I certainly know, some of the people I run with. This hap to about two others three
others for sure, but you know, nothing ever drastic. I know, the first time around, I was saying my father was getting a phone call saying I was in hospital when it wasn't a female relative, sort of saying that you know, you're better tell him to stop or something will happen to him, and all this sort of malarkey. But the second time around, nothing as sinister as that. And I mean the one time when they were actually I was funning up my carrecter gauge and there was the four court.
There's two guys in a sort of a BMW. As soon as I walked out after painting, Yeah, I looked at these guys. I was like, come on, you know, you're so obvious, and they kind of looked at each other and they just drove off. But yeah, I've been followed a few times, not so much this year because it kind of sort of starts in February and you know, about two three weeks and then it just kind of stops. Actually this year they were quite lazy about the whole
thing. But when he first started out, yeah, it was it was certainly more visible, for sure, But this year around, it was just like to put the house to get the pig. You know, well, I'm sure you've definitely got their attention. Her last question reads, do you think the clothing you found is being taken by a small dog men like a normal dog would take and play with the shoe? Yeah, it could well be, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's entirely possible.
Yeah. Yeah, I would not just count that at all. I mean, I mean, actually the younger ones. I say, I mean a couple of times when I've been sat, you know, the young ones, A couple of young ones are just running right up to me and then run off, Whereas the adults, you know, they kind of stay or a certain keyboard distance. By the young ones just showed no fear at all. So I wouldn't surprise me if the young ones would get into someone's backyard
and just run off with something to play with. The Yeah, entirely possible. Yeah. I can only imagine how intense it must be to see a baby dog and coming at you, Mike. It doesn't get much more intense than that. Well, I mean that time I fed one smoky bacon when it was in the den. You know, there was one right behind me, and you know, it was kind of a bit of annoyed that I was feeding it. Yeah, I didn't do anything. I mean there was one in front of me, there was one behind me, but I was
just totally annoy of finding actually a cup in their den. You know, I felt it bacon. And then I came back the next day and I gave it dog food. And again when I tried to take a picture, like I say, it's sort of got its left armor and just like dipped it his head and pretending like it was hiding, I was just like, oh my god, it was that the cutes together. I just can't you know, I just forgot to take any more pictures or make a video.
So I was just so lost him this simple little action that he did. But certainly when I was the thing that the day before, it was about twelve or the eleventh of October twenty eighteen, you know, I was feeling bacon. I kind of got I got the feeling that the mother was behind me, and you know when I started throwing it bacon, you know, I got like this snort of disgust, this nasal snort disgust. So the
feeling I got was like, that's my job, not yours. But you know they did They didn't do anything, but certainly you know it was it was I know she was right behind me because it was loud enough. I didn't turn around, by the way, I just I just kept looking at the couple. I can only imagine how tense I must have been. Yeah, it was all been. It was. Yeah, I don't doubt that. The next question is from Bishop Martin, and his question reads, do
you think there's any way to deter them from coming around our homes? I have no idea. I really don't. I would have a clue. I mean, I know some people are a bit apprehensive about having them come around me. I don't care, you know, I mean, I go to that home, so why can't they come to mind. You can say like this, I don't mind what you do to me in the woods, but please don't come around to my home and sgather Jesus out of me, and
that kind of seems to work. But I think if you were to sort of communicate something like that to the woods, you know, make sure that's like you're talking to the trees or that they I said, if you communicate something like that, they seem to pick up on it. But for me, I have no problems coming around to the house inside or out or you know, by garden. I mean the message just she doesn't like it, but for me, I think it's awesome. But yeah, I think that
might be the only way if you wished to deter. I would certainly not advise unarmed response, especially when there's been no confrontation, there's been no sort of aggressive interaction. But you know, if there's just been like a like a Mexican standoff type situation and he doesn't go any further, you know, then you know, I would just sort of sort of say, well, you know, don't come round in mine. I won't come round to yours.
And I would suspect that they would just leave you alone. Well, like you said, if you go into their home, it's only fear if they return the favors. So how could you blame him? Absolutely? Next questions from win Crush. Actually she has three questions, no, four questions, I stand corrected. The first one is why are they here? Oh, that is a good question. I mean that's it's like saying, why are we here? Yeah, I really don't know. I can't answer that
one. I'm a friend, Yeah, I don't see how you could answer that one. That's a tough one. Her next question is how long have they been here? Ah, now, that one, I'm pretty sure you are aware. There are some samples of DNA out there that are on record or have been examined, and it's the same like with the big Foot samples. They kind of go back twenty thirty thousand years, thirty thousand years the oldest, So I think they've been around. I'm going to go for twenty
five to thirty thousand years. That's a long time. Her next question reads, how did they get here? Oh? This is um, this is like the first question. It is. I don't see how you can answer that. I would say, whether you believe in some form of divine intervention or some sort of you go along with the sort of evolutionary process, I really couldn't tell you, but I believe there is a DNA study being done right now and some samples of dogman well wolf, So I think once they're
done, I think maybe that would give some very definitive answers. But if I was to say personally, I would say probably the same result as the way as the big Foot stay people. Somehow they there's been a genetic mixed match. A specie is buying outside third party. That's what I believe personally. I'm not saying that's the definitive answer. I'm not saying that at all. That is what I personally believe. The next question is from Sherry clean
In it reads, do you think dogmen wear clothes? I know it may sound crazy, but is it a possibility? Actually we have we have a very famous well, certainly in a cryptic circles here in this country. She was a teenage girl at the time it happened, but she had a seven foot whirl Wolf confront he who was like wearing a ripped shirt. It probably
stolen from a clothesline. And the strangest one I've heard was from a place called a whirl which is on the River Mersey Estuary, so it's a part of the greater part of Liverpool. And account of one wearing a wig, believe it or not, so, yeah, yeah, I think they do. Wearing must like some form of trophy. Imagine what that must be like to see a dog man wearing a wig? I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the guy actually when it was this account relates to me.
They said the guy stabbed it with a hand fork in the forearm, kind of run off. We said, it was wearing a blonde wig. You don't think that's a site you could ever get used to seeing. No, no, no, that Yeah, that would kind of stay with you for a long time. Yeah. The teenage girl when it happened to her, I mean, she's a grown woman now with kids. But certainly it was growing like a ship. But I mean because the thing I tried to put it on, it ripped it, but it was still wearing a shirt,
you know, when it confronted her and then run off. Yeah, I don't think that's a site you would ever get used to do. And that's for sure. The next two questions came in from Evie Swamp. Her first question reads, in recent years, I feel that the forests have become silent, regardless of the season, time or day, and even the night.
I mean, I don't hear the birds anymore except in May and early June outside of dating as Mike noticed that, or does he notice sudden changes in the environment before he encounters Yeah, yeah, I mean sometimes I mean like you can be in the woods and one side of the pathway the birds are singing, and then on the left side they'll be like nada, it's just still still as a graveyard. And then you know, the birds on the other side will stop, and then the birds on the left will stop
kicking up. I mean, actually, I mean the strange thing is seen. Sometimes. I've even encounters when the birds are still singing, you know, because normally, you know, you have a lot of accounts whether they just say suddenly everything just stopped, you know, it's just like total silence and then it appeared. But I mean, you can get places where the birds are still seen and you know, you can still have something happened.
So I kind of get the feeling that maybe, you know, the birds think, well, it's not hungry, it's not going to hurt us, so we'll just carry on. But yeah, absolutely, yeah. So actually, May, as I said before, that's when the first brood of young ones start running around like spring lambs. So yeah, there's certainly a change in the atmosphere in the woods and the second batch of young ones start sort of October time. But yeah, yeah, definitely a change in the woodlands.
Yeah, May Jing. This next question is kind of related to that from ev. This one reads do meetings take place at specific times more than others. Well for me, I mean I got a routine and they're used to that. So that certainly where I go to most of my meetups afternoon, so you know, I have a routine early hours Thursday morning, Sunday afternoon, and maybe mid Saturday afternoon at another location. Because for me, I think repetition is key. The more you go, the more they're used
to you, and the more easy things are. You know, if one just just like to sort of like literally come up to you, shake your hand or give you a hug or something like that. But yeah, definitely, once they get to know and spell and see what you're about and what
you are, yeah, you know that they'll be there before. Like I say, I mean once time they were there before I even turned up, which kind of really shook me. But yeah, give you five ten minutes and they're there, and yeah, just just walk around and they'll make a fuss, they'll make a noise, or they'll just go on the marry away leave you alone. I mean, sometimes they don't turn up at all,
but more often than not it's the younger ones. But yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, I think the more you put into a routine, and the more they get used to, you know, a lot more things happen. I mean, you know, even to the point where actually, you know, sometimes it's like, is this someone else I can go because now and again it's just it does become too repetition. It becomes a little boring. But you know, it's it's that next trip where something happens that suddenly
you're like, oh, that was great. Here's a really interesting question for you. He was submitted by Scott Matthews and reads due to go in public with details of regular encounters that you've had locally. Do you have any concerns about the government or local authorities locating and capturing any of the dogman you visit?
No, not really. The only time that I've known when I was told about this of guys from the Department of Agriculture going into or woodland to conduct a hunt actually came back out and pastic buckets and they were found by the authorities, by the police. So I've got no put it this way, I think there's only one side that's going to win. If somebody was certainly here, I don't know about the state or level of equipment or activities
in the States. But certainly, yeah, I know of the one occasion where somebody or two guys went in to do something that they came out in small chunks. And also in seven years that I've been doing this, on two occasions, I have seen guys who I know aren't your average ramblers, aren't your average walkers. The way they carried themselves there were definitely something to do with some official body. And the first guy I ever saw, I just knew the guy was ex military. He was definitely in a pay grade
above me when I was in the army. So it's just it's just the way the guy carried himself, and you just know, right, just give this guy a lot of breathing space. I'll just pretend to be a dumb ediot. But yeah, on two occasions, I've seen guys two separate individuals, sort of the way they'll walking, the way they're looking at the ground, the way they're looking at the trees, the foliage. You know they're looking for him. But in that situation, there's only going to be one
winner. If you want to go about it in the conventional way. It were the rifle and good old tracking and hunting skills. But if you go up some specialized equipment, maybe, but I've never seen that, but it would certainly seem if you want to do it the old fashioned way, you're a dead man. I mean, I was listening to that guy you did two episodes, but he went to was it Oklahoma or Ohio? To kill one with a group of friends Oklahoma? That was Brad. Yeah. I
was like, what on earth was that man thinking. I mean, if he'd gone with high rose motion camera and was thinking about taking pictures of him half a mile away, I'd give that guy the Congressional Medal of Valor, you know, but to actually physically go in there and so, yeah, well this is what we're going to do. I say, dude, you need to see a white coat doctor right away, because I don't care how or what service you've done for your country or whether you're a black belt in
karate or whatever. I mean, it's just like, no, I just thought what that guy thinking. I mean, if if he got some real fantastic photographs, you say, right, we'll stick it. We'll go for a weekend and we'll stay in a hide and you know, we'll observe from X amount of hundreds of meters away. We'll try and record footage or a video or take pictures. I mean that alone, you know, I would
say that was very brave of you. But to actually go out physically hump on, It's just you would have to plan it down to the last detO, really would. I know one of your early episodes there was a guy from Louisiana had three uncles that used to do it for the farmers full time, you know, years ago. But just to do it on the whim on a weekend. No, no, no, no, no no no,
I agree, Yeah, there's no future in that. Scott had another question, and this one reads, how about you're becoming a possible target for trophy hunters wanting to prove their existence with the dogny and carcass. No, certainly not around here. No, I mean certainly maybe stateside or Canada, Mexico. Yeah, I mean, like let's say the guy in Oklahoma. But here, No, it's just you say, we've got very strict firearm laws here, and I mean even guys going out we call it poaching.
You know, even going out with a like a two two or an air rifle. You know, there's very strict laws. I mean not unless you're actually a game warden on a private state. I know in Scotland they carry out limited culls on deer hoods. But even then, I'm not sure about the standard caliber of round. I think, certainly untill about twenty twenty, a lot of game wardens are allowed to carry. I think you call it at three oh six. We would call it at seven six two three three
eight. Yeah, so that's about seven I think seven six two or seven nine two caliber. But I'm not sure on the grain. Yeah, certainly the weight of patder and the bullet you're allowed to carry here, because I know you guys stay side. You know you can have multiple sort of packages and you know in terms of weight and sides of the round, But here I wouldn't know what sort of grain you're allowed to carry. But certainly to kill a full size buck, yeah, idea somethingthing you need above one fifty
grain for sem six two or maybe three or eight. But yeah, we've got very strict laws here, so I really can't sort of say, um, guys running around English squidloads with elephant guns or the Dietro cartridge trying to kill one of these things. Yeah, that is a tall order. This next question came in from Chris Atkinson, and his question reads, you mentioned Barrassa Common Woods in Surrey. My wife walks the dog there every morning,
so I'd love to hear more on what you've experienced there. Yeah. Actually it's this is favorite spots to walk. But we've had, like I said, one Sunday, we had three howls. And this is during the height of the Chinese Luke, and you know, there was a certain amount of interaction allowed in public parks and there was three hours and you know, missus and I are looking at each other and everyone's just carrying on like like there's
nothing doing. I just thought this is weird. I mean, most has had the cold snorts, you know, the names all snorts in her ear, let's get Jesus out of her and that that kind of put her off a bit. But yeah, they're around there. I mean one of the girls I used to work with, because I think it's long More Common, which is adjacent to Barossa Common, she saw one there in twenty ten. She's from South Africa and you know, you know, she knows her wildlife,
and she said she'd never seen anything like it before. But she said she knew it was canine from the shape, but it was like a cane nine she had never seen before. So one hundred percent they're around there. I mean there's I mean, like I said one of the army wives on a Facebook page, you know, she said, sometimes you can heal them at how there at night going at it. So yeah, they're definitely that
Yea. Sounds like it must be a hotspot for him. If you'd like to be able to listen to the show without ads and have full access to bonus content, that's an option. To find out how, please go to dog Me and Encounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Well, that's it for all the questions, Mike, though, I guess we can get ready to get out of here, but before we do, do you have any closing
comments you'd like to share? All I would say is if anyone over there in the UK is thinking about it, and these things don't and I can't really give any advice to anyone thinking the same state side, all I can say is wushally the best of luck. But I wouldn't do it because they seem certainly to understand if your intentions are good or bad. And let's say if you go good intentions, your warcime. So yeah, that's about it.
Really, that's really good advice because there's no future in trying to hunt these things at all. But having said that, I want to thank you so much for coming back on and telling us more experiences and answering those questions. I really appreciate it. Mike another problem, thanks very much, having mane. Oh you know you're welcome. Thanks again so much, Have a great night.