Tonight's guest is dog Men researcher based out of Kentucky, and he was featured on episodes three fifty four and four fifty six. Since episode four fifty six Yer last April, he's taken more pictures of dog men and had other experiences. When I found out about that, I asked him if you'd come back on the show and update this on what he's been up to. Luckily, he said yes, So here we are, of course, I'm talking about Paul Chaffin from the Kentucky dog Men Project. Paul, thanks so much for
coming back. Good to be here, Vic, Well, that's greed is always to have you. I appreciate your time. Paul. You're featured on episodes three fifty four and four fifty six, actually episode four fifty six here this past April. What have you been up to you since then? I do this, I guess research, you can call it any chance I get. I'm always hiking, I'm always in the woods. I'd rather be doing
that than be president. For anyone who's never listened to those episodes, in the dictionary, next to the phrase go getter, you're gonna find a picture of Paul, this guy gets after it. But for any of the listeners who missed those shows, please give them a brief bio on yourself. Well, I had a encounter when I was fifteen years old. Was back in nineteen ninety seven. First of all, I'm from Pike County, eastern Kentucky. I've been in the mining industry most of my life. I've done this
about any kind of job you can think of, and construction. I'm stealing heavy equipment, you know, even now. So I had an encounter when I was fifteen, and it changed my life. I'm back and forth whether it was for the best or for the worst, but at the time it was for the worst because it was pretty wild. Isn't it funny how one thing can change your life the way that encounter did for you. Yeah, it is because there ain't been probably hasn't been two hours of my life went
by where I haven't thought about it at least once. So it's lives in my head for sure. I don't know if it was just the encounter that was so traumatic, were the just the knowledge of knowing that something like that's out there, you know, that was really hard to go ask him deal with. Yeah, after having that one experience, your life would never be the same. I believe it. I'll bet you do think about them that often. I'm wondering, though, was that first encounter the most traumatic experience
you've had with dog men? And if not, please tell us all about the experience. I mean, yeah, that one was pretty traumatic, just because I had feel asleep. Yeah, I knew I wasn't gonna be able to get home in time, so I knew it was gonna get dark because I had feel asleep up there while deer hunting, and when I got up, nothing was on my mind. Really. I took you know, fifteen twenty steps and I don't know how they do it, but it just fear.
And then immediately after I felt that dear like I noticed everything look dead silent. So yeah, it was a reality shaking experience, for sure. It was. It was life altering, you know. And ever since I come off the hill that day, my life never been the same. So and you know, I've been bluff charged, I've been growled at on video like I've got. I mean, I just really put my life on the line quite a few times doing this, and I continue to do it.
You know, I go into these areas because I could go along. I'll go along, you know in the Appalachian Mountains when I go Dick Jensening, I mean, I go, so I'll stay gone all day. And this last time I was in, he was just dead silent, and I had only experienced that one other time. So yeah, I recorded it was dead silent, and I don't know what causes I don't know. Maybe we're the predator that sometimes causes it. I don't know, but yeah, it was
very eerie. But yeah, I've had a few encounters Vic just I don't know how to explain having an encounter was one of these things, and then it's it definitely a primal. There is no other fear that I can think of that you get, you know, other than dealing with these creatures when we're around. One thing I understand is, if you do have a fear of these guys, why do you continue to head back into the woods and
try to seek them out. Well, just like you had Kyle on, just like he said, you know, if you're gonna do the things that you say you love to do, you know, you're just gonna deal with the fact there's things out there that you can't explain. So that's just a way I live. I'm not gonna quit going in the woods. And I do a lot of research and stuff and I go out, but I also go to places where I don't do research. I just go hiking with my kids. And you know, I try not to make it my every day
like all day. So yeah, I try to I try to do other things, but yeah, it's a big part of my life. It definitely is. And I know there's a lot of people out there too. It's the same as me, Like, yeah, it just does something to you. I guess, Oh, I'm sure it does. Yeah, I don't doubt that at all. And you just admitted to being fearful of them. But I think it's a given you don't frighten easily. The fact that you keep on going back and back and back looking for them, that's all the
proof that we need to know that you don't frighten easily. From what I understand, Paul, your views have changed quite a bit since you came on the show for the first time. Please expand on that for us. Well, I had went down to this boat ramp with my girlfriend and my kids because people are gonnarn swim, you know, and we're swing and stuff swing
on. Yeah, it's a good place to swim. So we went down there and I just had a weird feeling out there because I had walked down the beast a little bit and I had found some really big talk tracks. You know, of course I would. I walked down the beach a little bit fund a big dog track, so you know it naturally. I just pulled my phone out and recorded a couple of minutes of video there, and
when I watched it back, I started seeing orbs. And when I say orbs, I'm like, people think, oh, I was probably a bug or something. But these were lighting the leaves up as they went by. You know. It was very strange. And I do believe that if anybody does any amount of research like I'm doing and reviewing footage and going out and anybody that does this, you're gonna start to see the same things I'm talking
about in the footage, and you're gonna come to the same conclusions. Now, whether you ignore it or choose to go with it, like I just went with the evidence. I'm not gonna It may sound crazy, you know, I think it does too. I know I'm not unaware of how wild some of the sounds, but it's absolutely the truth these things. There's other I don't like if you wanna caught cloaking, realms, dimensions, whatever you
wanna call it. But yeah, these things are able to interact and see us, but we can't see them and interact with them, you know. And every time I get a picture or a video of one of these things, I don't care how far away it is, it's always staring right at it. And then I've got a lot of things on camera that are not dogling too, so you know, it's really clear faces. So yeah,
there's there's definitely another side to it. But you know, at the same time, I also believe that they're flesh and blood that can't do all that stuff. I think the national parts with them did come into the conclusion that they're not just animals out there doing their thing trying to make a living. Make you more fearful of them or decrease that fear, well, I believe vic that I'll give you a warning, you know, and if you don't
pay attention, you'll be getting talked about on someone else's podcast. So I believe they'll give you a warning. I've pushed the envelope with a For instance, when I won't crowded at me. You know, the guy that was with me, it scared him really bad, a lot worse than it than me. But to me, I was just shocked, like in my mind, and my love stood up and waved at me because when it growled, it scared him. To me, it shocked me because it gave away its
position and pretty much verified that, ay, we're here back up. So you know, it was pretty exciting in that manner. But no, I didn't. I don't frighten easy. No, I became I wouldn't say comfortable, but at peace with death. Like I worked in the cold months for a while, so I'm able to push shot back. In my mind. I'm not worried about it. If it happens, it happens is my time, I'll go, yeah, this is not But you can do to delive that. So that's a good point. Interacting with these guys as many times
as you have. How intelligent do you think they are? I think they are extremely intelligent. I think they're diverse. I don't think they're just dumb creatures, you know. I think they have an intelligence and understand what people are going out. They know what it is, they know probably what an ape is, they know what all this stuff is. And you just love kitch one in a bad mood, you know. So I think they're probably just like us. They don't all look the same, that's for sure.
Some of them don't look too smart, I'll tell you that. Yeah, it does make you wonder exactly how smart they are. If you've had a dog me an encounter would like to speak with me about it, whether I'm private or on the show, please go to dog Meet Encounters dot com and submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest on one of my two bigfoot shows, please go to my Bigfoot
Sighting dot com. Since you came on in April all and told us about your experiences and what she'd been up to to that point, you've had more experiences, please tell us about those. Now. Well, we uh went down here too the river, and I was another researcher who came up and
went down and we went out. We were out there about thirty forty five minutes, and we went to go to the because it's a big parking lot, you know, So we went to go to the other side, and when we got over, there was a truck parked there and there was a I didn't see it at first when he started talking to us, but I walked over to the truck and he had a game more uniform he was in, like a Silverado or something. They didn't even look like it looked like
a regular truck. Yeah, he was sitting there and he hollered at us. So we walked over there, and he said we couldn't be back in there, that it was private land, which I knew he was lyne It's not private land, it was public land. So I didn't challenge him on it or anything. I was just like, oh, yeah, well, I said sometime him, I was like, there's some crazy things going on out here, he said, or I said there's some crazy things here. He said, you're right, he said there is some crazy things here.
I mean, just pretty much verified, you know, agreeing with me. I was like. But then I even was like, nah, I mean, I don't think you inter so I'm talking about he's Noah, yeah I do. But yeah, after we you know, said those a few little words, I just walked off back towards my car. Since we got there, another game warding truck pulled in. This was the real deal. These guys were in a truck. They looked like military guys, you know,
but they were wearing uniforms, game ward uniforms. They just backed in and said over their sunglasses, gonna. Stared at me for probably two or three minutes before I got in my car and we decided to leave it. But wise we was leaving, I turned a look and they were still staring at me. So, I don't know what was going on in here, but I've never seen him before, and I've been around here fifteen years. I've
never seen him before, and I've never seen him since. So yeah, it was definitely something strange going on or something happened in or I don't know what it was, because people will go down there in camp and it I don't know how they do it. I just don't know how the average person that don't know anything about this can go down and camp and not have me think that had happened to him. But I mean, there's just little things
like that that happen all the time. We just some of the feelings that we get when we're out there, the screams we'll hear screams and howls that are weird and they sound close, and I just can't in my mind picture that being a dog man screaming, you know, because it sounds it don't sound like a dog. So I don't know. I guess bigfoot or whatever else is out there, I don't know. I can't tell. It just
be speculations for me. But I just know that a lot of these things that I'm seeing in these pictures and that I'm sharing have human faces or human ish looking faces. So it's just my phone from one. I believe that these phones are able to see things that our eyes aren't meant to see or can't see. So that's the only way I can describe VIC. I don't
know. We've just had so many different small encounters here and there that, you know, like when I took my daughter out, for instance, even my daughter will stop and she's like, I just don't feel good about this place, you know. I was like, what do you mean. She's like, I don't know, I don't know what it is. She said, I don't like this place. My dad and I never said that she
loves one out, you know. So I started the words because writing for she said that we found a set of headphones, like the wire ones for an iPhone that plug into your phone, laying after on a flat Rocket's kind of like a little creep baby, and they were just laying there. I was like, that's odd, she said, at least on how I attached nobody's head. So yeah, I mean it, sometimes it gets really scary out there. Just you hear strange birds that you've never heard before. Like,
I've never heard some of these birds sound off. The average person would never think anything of it, but I heard it, and I was like, you know, I'm forty one. Here's Oh, I've never heard a bird like that. And I've spent a lot of hours and all kinds of wooded areas. Yeah, I bet you do. Your Some streams sounds out
there. Yeah, some of them I can't even describe or tell you, Like, I've never what you would even imagine in your mind that it is making that sound, Like all I can picture it would just have to be big foot or something, you know, Yeah, it just might be a sasquatch, her a dog man. Considering the fact your daughter likes to go out researching with you the way she does, what are you gonna do if some day, when she gets older she decides to become a dog Men researcher
herself. Well, I try not to take her and do research. I'll take her hiking and stuff. But she does know about the encounter I had, and she does know. You know, I do make girl aware that my teacher the same things my dad taught me, as far as you know, being in the woods, never go without a gun. I just teach her the same things. So hopefully if she does, she'll have the intelligence, you know, the just being educated on the woods and stuff and what
to do and what not to do. Well, as you know, apples don't fall far from the tree, so considering you and how you are, I'm sure she's going to do just fine. If you'd like to be able to listen to the show without ads and have full access to bonus content, that's an option. To find out how, please go to dog Men Encounters
dot com Forward Slash podcast. On episodes three fifty four and four fifty six, he shared some of the pictures you've taken of dog men over the years, but since that episode here in April, you've taken even more pictures of them. Why do you think it is you have such good luck catching them
on film when most researchers get skunked time after time. I think it's just having patience, and I think it's knowing how to review the footage that you get while you're out there, what to do while you're out there when I go out, like a lot of times, while I'm out there, yeah, I'm doing research, I'm looking for stuff, tracks and all that, but I'll make it a point to spend twenty thirty minutes an hour or whatever just doing normal things like you know, with me and my daughter walking and
stuff, talking about I'm recording at the same time behind me. And it's just having the patience to sit down, like I said, without having an iPhone where you can go through the video, you know, frame by frame slower and the quality you can set. It's four K and stuff, so the quality is a lot better. So yeah, you can. You'll start noticing things if you will set and take time and be patient and look at
the footage. And I'm not talking about this flesh and blood I'm talking about You'll just start to see I don't know, like it'll be undeniable to you. You you know what I'm saying it'll be it'll change you. Whether you tell anybody about it or not, you know it'll it'll change you for sure. It'll it'll make you start looking at everything different, start looking for looking at you know, researching other areas to find out things for you. Since
it comes naturally to you, it probably does seem simple. But if most people try to go out there and get the results that you get, I think they'd feel miserably. There's just something to the way you do things that bring so much success. I'm impressed. I'm just crazy. People think I'm crazy. I got you know, I go into these areas. Most people won't go you know, like the people that went with me, four or
five pers win or at least three of them won't go back. Now, I believe it taking people into really spooky places like that, it's gonna tend to have that effect on them. Well, like I said, just a moment ago, you've taken more picks since you came on last time. Paul, Please tell us what we're looking at as I show those pictures one by one for the listeners. All right now, this is a picture that I got. I would say about a week and a half ago, I can't
remember the name of the area down here. We've only been through it a couple of times. But this is the same area that my daughter was saying that she was uneasy in. So yeah, but anyway, this here's a lot. I'm a really clear picture. It's here lately. It's probably one of the better ones that I've got. But it's uh, I've got a red circle around it, and you can see its head. It's got its head up over some brush and it's just laying there staring at us are sitting
there, and yeah, it's it's a really good picture. Now it's the next one. Like I said, some of them are some of them are really strange. They're not necessarily dog man I or you know, I don't know, maybe they are. I don't know what they are. But I'm no longer a name on delivery driver. I was for a few months there, and I would get to go into some areas and naturally, why I'm on lunch and stuff, you know, me, I'm out there looking around in the woods and stuff. So you know, I got some video on
some pictures. But this one here I got one day while I was out on my route, and it's a face. I don't know how to explain it, maybe like a clown. It's to me looks evil, but you'll see it's got a white circle on it. You know, it's kind of in the center of the screen, but you'll see it. You want, no problem. This next one. I've had a lot of people tell me that this is probably the best picture that I've ever gotten or that they've ever
seen. So this one here is the same. I was on my route out in the middle of nowhere, you know, delivering packages, and every time I get an uneasy feeling or something happens, I will record the area, the tree line or whatever. And I got this one. It's standing up. You can see its shoulders, arms, hands, you can see its head, it's looking right at me. It's ears. Yeah, it's a really good picture. It's in black and white. That one is, and I've got it also in the regular pictures. So the next one I
have is it's up in a tree. I don't know. It's like I would say, probably ten fifteen feet up in a tree, and all you can see is it's head sticking out on eyes, my snout, I mean, I hair on top of its head. Everything. Yeah, it's looking down at us or me, of course, but to the left of it, there's other ones that I've got one here that it's from a distance, but you can still see it really good. It's poking its head up through some miles brush. It stands out like a source on you bill to see
it real good too. And then I've got one from the same area that I was talking about earlier when my daughter had gotten scared. This one is another face big foot. I'm gonna guess is what it looks like. But you know, when you see this one, it'll be a pretty self explained authority. You know, it's got a black arrow over its head. That one picture that you mentioned were it's a face. It doesn't have a muzzle.
It's just a freaky looking fees. If that doesn't make the hearing your buttst end up looking at that, I don't know what will for sure. Yeah it did, I swear it that. Thankfully I didn't see that while I was there. Now, there is a lot of times that I've learned that even though I don't think we can see what's going on with our human
eyes, I think the camera lens can pick it up. So if you look at your phone while you're recording it, sometimes you will catch some of these things that you normally wouldn't, So I mean, thankfully I didn't see that one because I didn't review the footage until later. So yeah, I'm glad. There's a lot of things I'm glad about when it comes to this.
And it's strange because I learned everything that I've pinted the conclusion who has been through reviewing footage, So I just keep learning things figuring things out. So I mean, it's working. So I continue to go out and I've got a few other people here that will go out with me, so we roll out there like a team and we have a good time doing it. But yeah, this next picture that I'm gonna show you is from a video that my girlfriend had taken while we were on a new hiking trail. And
that's something else. When I go into an area for the first time, I've never been there, Oh you'll find tracks, You'll get really good footage and pictures and evidence. But then next time you go into the area, there won't be anything. Like if I cast a track or anything there, they won't be any more tracks. I think they get wise to why I'm there. And what I'm doing, so the evidence kind of goes away. But I've noticed that when I go into a new area, you know,
I'll see it all. So yeah, this next pictures over her shoulder, and it is a I don't know, it's a dog man, I guess, and it's got big black eyes and a snout and it's because there's a field behind us, really large, probably two or three hundred acres field is but the grass I think is about five foot tall. But this is down low about halfway because she's squatted down. So yeah, you'll be able to
see it really good too. This one big is I mean, I guess there's room for debate on all of them, but this one is the day that my daughter said she was scared. Okay, as I took this video, she was telling me that she was scared and stuff. So I started recording, and what I found in the videos probably the scariest thing that I've personally gotten to me, just because of the almost feeling that was in the
area at the time. And but it's a highball. You can see the forehead, you can see, but it's there's two trees, a skinny one in a big one. But there's probably only a two inch gap in between them, but about ten feet in the air behind those trees you can see something looking through you can see the eyeball the four had the hairline you'll see. But it's just a scary picture to me. I don't really care to look at it. Let's see. Yeah, I don't think people are ready
this. But this is the only one that I've gotten that's on two legs. This is this is my personal favorite picture that I've got. This is why I'm out there doing what i'm doing. I'm naming the four, but I've got this as two pictures, but it's split and it's one picture, but it's two. It's the same picture, but on one side I just kind of outlined it, you know. On the other side, you know,
you can see the original picture. But as you were talking earlier about the intelligence, I mean this one right and this picture is holding a stick in its right hand. It's about sixty yards from it if it's a little ways away, but it's being over like a kangaroo. You know, it's been over at its waist, you know, standing up, it's been over. So it's holding the stick and it's right hand and it's got another stick in its left hand. It's kind of coming up toward its face, and
you can see it in the video. When the wind blows and the sticks around my face moved, it starts shaking that branch up and down, so you can tell that it's the camouflage. That's something else. It's charted a really good picture to me. You can see it's toes, the haunches, you can see its knee and thigh. I mean, you can go. It's just a big, strong preacher. I believe that'll almost do it.
Vic. I've said it before and I'll see it again. I just don't know how you muster the courage to put yourself in the presence of these things time after time getting the results you do. Though, Paul, do you
have any concerns about your research putting your safety at risk? I mean, yeah, of course, I'll belind if I said it didn't cross my mind, you know, you know every time I'm out there, So yeah, I mean it's a I have definitely questioned what am I doing, you know, because there's not a lot of people that, for whatever reason, I want to go out there and do this, So yeah, a lot of times I end up having to do it alone, which ain't a good idea.
But I do go armed all the time. Whether they'll do any good or not, I don't know, but I've got it, so I do. I worry about it sometimes, but it's not going to stop me. So I don't know, but I guess I'm more probably more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the woods than I am in the woods, is the way I see it. It's probably accurate. Have you noticed a difference in the results you get when you take people out with you
compared to when you go alone. Oh? Absolutely, especially if like Chris, if she goes with me, she'll get some really good footage two or three days ago buy and I'm like, have you ever looked at that footage? She's like I looked at it a little bit, and you know, she was like, well, you seen it to me, so she'll see it over me and I'm looking at like, oh my god, I'm sitting here, sitting on gold you know, not even I don't even realize it, but yeah, some of the things that come out of the video,
she gets pretty extraordinary. You know. I've got pictures on here of a sphere. You can see a sphere like it's distorted. It stands out really good from the background, and it's just a perfectly round sphere about the size of a beach ball. And what it is, I have no idea. Some people say they you can see things in it. I don't know, but it's probably one of the stranger pictures that I've ever gotten. I don't
know what it is. A portal, it's just a sphere. It sure sounds to me like she might have a nat for finding these things as well. She believes, you know, she knows what I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing it if it was fake. I'm putting a lot of every in it's fake, but yeah, she knows, and she knows it's a big part of my life too. So I don't know. I guess you just have to have the experience to understand the toll. I guess, And I
guess maybe not everybody is driven for answers like I am too. So there's just some things I can't let it slide. And I feel like they come and look in our windows and come around our homes and stuff. So I'm gonna go out, you know, I guess figured if we look in their windows, you know, well, in some cases they don't seem to respond as well to that is we do. Although when we look in our windows, it's not that much we can do for retribution, But when the shoes
on the other foot, they most definitely can. Have you heard of the dicing glasses that was used in the Vietnam War? No, no, I haven't. Well, there was a pair of glasses that they gave the soldiers. They were called dicing glasses. They were for night vision, but instead of being the greenish having a greenishue too as we know it now, they had a red hue to it. Okay, well, they had the helicopter. The guys that set with the gun out the door. I can't think
they just slipped my mind. What they are, the doorgunner or whatever, they were responsible for wearing these goggles. And you know, they would be
a flowtilla of helicopters. And the guy said that for no reason, the guy in the back just started emptying out his fifty cow you know, the other helicopters was swaying out of the way and stuff, and he went back there, you know, because at that time there was a I guess probably a really bad drug epidemic and and the armed forces being the war and stuff, and he went back there thinking that's what it was, but he realized
that wasn't the case. The guy was just pouring the sweat. He said that he was seeing demons or monsters or whatever they were, and they were flying, they had wings and just looked medieval, you know, and they were looking at each other and pointing at him and talking like, you know, they could tell that he could see them, and he was shooting at him and stuff, and I guess it was doing no good. So I guess eventually the captain, the guy that was telling the story, because this
happened a bunch to a bunch of people and it ruined their lives. They went crazy after having them glasses on them. But he had said before all that happened shortly after the first time, like he had put the glasses on the sea, and he said, as they were flying over the canopy, the tree canopy that was fogging stuff. When he put them glasses on, he said, he could see these things coming off the top of the trees and just shaking. You could see the like the mist and fog with their
wings and stuff. He said, it was just real. They were there, but when you pulled them glasses off, the fog hadn't even been disturbed. So yeah, they ended up changing the filter or whatever it is that was on them from red or which I'm not sure you know what they really used, but they changed it to what we know now the colors. You know they used to watch that vision. Seeing something like that sure wood change you for life. Wow. Does researcher ever feel like work to you,
Paul? Or is it always fun? Just being in the woods is fun to me? Like I said, I just I can lead all my problems outside of the tree line. You know, when I go in there, I'm I feel more home there than I do at the house. Sometimes. I don't know, I just always have I felt like that. I just like being outdoors. No, I totally understand. Yeah, bad day in the woods beats a day at work any day. Oh, absolutely definitely. What would you say is the worst thing that comes along with doing what you
do? Though? I mean, like I said before, I do put myself in some you know, my worst case scenario is something south like it has happened, like me getting bluff charged that time. But you ask, you know earlier, what that was one that shaped the way I do things. And because I got a really good look at myself and that bluff charge happened. You know, you go through your life thinking, you know what's gonna happen. But like you said, you know, everybody got that plane
until you get punched. So yeah, I got a good look at myself out there, and that was scary on its own, you know, like I painted when I didn't think I would. So yeah, and I'm scared of something like that happened. And why I've got my daughter with me or something, because yeah, I don't want it to ruin her experience out in the woods. Yeah, that would be horrible. Hope that never happens. Yeah, I try to avoid that. Yeah. We can only do so much. And at the same time, you have to live life and she
has to live hers. I mean, it would be a shame if she couldn't enjoy the woods the way that she does with you. So yeah, I hope you never stop. No, she loved outdoors just like I did. Well that's great. Yeah, that's how it should be. If any other witnesses out there in Kentucky where you're based, there, Paul want to contact you and sure they're encounters with you. How can they do that?
I've got a group on Facebook Kentucky Document Project, and I've also got a YouTube channel, the Kentucky Document Project who you can look them up, and I've got quite a few videos on the YouTube. And the group, I forget, it's got like sixteen seventeen hundred members. Maybe I can't remember now, but yeah, it's a really good group. You know, there's not all that stuff that goes on any other groups. There ain't nobody laughing and
nobody. There ain't no laughing emojis and the arguing and all that stuff. There is none of that. Like I said before, if I had proved just anybody into the group, I'd probably have over ten thousand members. But you know, if they can't answer the questions, that's just been my motto. If they can't take time to answer three questions, you know, they're not gonna take time to really look at any pictures. They're just gonna want
to see a pictures of werewolves or something quality of a quantity. Right, what's about time for us to get out of here. But before we do, do you have any clothes and comments you'd like to share. I'll try to explain this, like, I know how strange it sounds, but anybody can do it. When I record footage, I started to notice and when I go frame by frame, when I would start painting the camera around, the picture would get blurry. But when it did all of a sudden,
these things would stand out. These whatever they are, would stand out. Their face would stand out in some of them and be really clear when everything else in the picture is blurry. And then when the picture comes back into focus, their face is blurry and the pictures clear. So as strange as that sounds, that is the absolute I mean, anybody can do this. If you're willing to go into the area and do the research, you will get to evidence. If you put into work, you will get it.
And I'm willing to share everything I got. I'm willing to help anybody needs help. Whatever I can do. I like spreading a wearing of it. Well, it's obvious you definitely know what you're talking about. You definitely get the results time after time. So who better to get that advice from. But having said that, I want to thank you so much for coming on and updating us on what's been going on with you, Paul, I really appreciate it. Yes, servy, it's been a pleasure talking to you,
buddy. Well, it's been great talking with you as well. Thanks again so much of your time and half a great night.