At at. Tonight's special Christmas episode is a continuation from last week's show where Keith came on and told us about several of us dog unrelated experiences, but unfortunately we ran out of time, so on tonight's show he's going to finish sharing his experiences with us. Thanks so much for coming back to listen to him do that, and Merry Christmas. This is on a side note,
koodles do I think her name was Kim. She was talking about Ember having more of a childish or adolescent style dog man or dog woman at this point, and that's what I'm gonna say. This probably was. This thing was small, and this was a little braver than the other ones. This one came up closer and it was again behind a pine tree, and I couldn't quite see it. I could make out the ciluette full body, but it
had squatted down. I'm gonna say she because I'll get to it, but I'm gonna say it was a she because of what I'll tell you here in a minute. I got probably within maybe eight feet six to eight feet of this thing, and it was scrouched down. It probably wasn't any taller than maybe four and a half feet four to four and a half feet tall. Was small, wasn't big or stocky or anything like that. It's just small. And this is one of the few times where I really got like,
oh, heck no, I gotta back away from this thing. This thing did like you would see in a horror movie. And we'll bring up horror movies again. It was one hand came out to the side, another hand came out to the same side, just below it, and then it peaked its head out and again low light. I couldn't tell you the color, no eyeshine, nothing like that. This thing, man, I I'm ninety percent certain it wasn't mind speak, was not mine speak. I'm ninety percent
certain. But this girl, female sounding critter said, I don't remember if it said come closer or come here. Yeah, no, either way, I'll take c none of the above. And I backed out at that place. I actually had I had left at that point afterwards. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't want to play those games. And again that was that was of four January of I'm sorry, July of four didn't really hear too
much anymore. Obviously, I'm not going to go back out there and hang out in that area where that cabin is, because you never know there could be someone else down there. I don't want up, you know, intrude on anybody. December of four was the next time that ran across something but didn't see it. That's that's a good way to put it dead. It's where I saw tracks and I'll get to it. Same road. There's like
s Turns third Road. On the north side of the road, it's like up in the embankment pith two and a half three feet and then it's the taller grass, some trails going through it. I think that's where hunters go. And then it goes into the thick pines again south side of the road, I say north side anyway, south side of the road it's a swamp,
so you kind of s turned through it or whatever. And again the girl that was with at that time, she had gotten a phone call from one of her friends and she was on that road and scared would be an understatement, a very gross understatement. There was terror in this girl's voice. I'm on one side of the room and she's on the other talking to her, and I can hear her. She's screaming and she's saying stuff. There are some adult words, so we'll leave those out. But oh my god,
leave, just leave, just leave, leave me alone. And she's saying this, but you could hear the horn on her car, and her horn was dying. But she told us where she was at. And she's saying, my car is dying, is dead or whatever, and I have there's something black in front of me, laying in the middle of the road and it won't leave. And uh oh, so we took off. I already know the kind of what we're running into. We took off down there, and she was facing westbound, and so I pulled up in front of
her. So I'm facing eastbound and I get out of the vehicle. I'm looking around. I don't see anything, you know. Unfortunately I didn't have a flashlight. But this is wintertime. It's bright outside at night, you know, a folder tight moon, so everything's basically glowing except the woods, and I don't see anything. I'm looking around, I don't see anything. She's saying it was laying right here. I didn't see anything, So I'm just going by what she said. But anyway, we're checking. Didn't see
anything. I ended up getting her or her car jumped. It just took a couple of minutes. It wasn't a long time, and everything was good. Got her up and going again, and I went back to my trunk to throw the jumper cables in, and I noticed something. They were almost like on the embankment, which there wasn't before I started this issue with getting out of the vehicle and checking there wasn't anything there. At that time,
something had slid down the embankment just behind my car. I didn't see anything, didn't hear anything. Big thing that you get with people talking about sasquatch and the critters are smell nothing. And when I'm looking for this, I'm looking even as much as even detail of something breathing where it's you know, it would cast a fog type out of its mouth or something from hitting a colder. I didn't see anything, however, in the road. Now this
was roughly a fresh snow. It wasn't plowed or tore up by car, so there was actually untouched snow in the road. There were just a couple of footprints or paw prints, if you will, that weren't there when I started this whole situation, and I looked at them and they were clearly large canine prints, and you know, it didn't have like a heel or anything like that. You know it's you know, half man half wolf type nonsense or anything like that. It didn't have that. It had very large dog
paw prints and it was just a couple front back. To me, it looked like it was it was the fronts, but that was it, and in a direction that was going. It was going down into that swamp. And at that point we just kind of got out of there and we're like, whoa crazy? You know, that was close, I mean, especially for something like that, And I think that was pretty much it for that time. And again a couple of years had passed. Now, oh,
I'm sorry, I did have one issue. And this was again back around that same time, in December of four my girl and I she had had a friend that had passed away whatever circumstances, it's irrelevant to this, but you know, as a younger girl had passed away and she was buried in the town south of where we're seeing all this stuff, and where she lived was where my one buddy did there, just across the street of the main night I spoke about earlier, we had gone to the graveyard and it's it's
one of them things cruising around at night. She wanted to go say hi. So we found her grave site and brushed it off, clean it up, and you know, she did a little talking and everything like that. No big deal, you know, it is what it is. Out of nowhere, I get that feeling again, I'd mentioned with the inside, almost like that freeze motion with the cats or the sasquatch. That frequency, the
weird frequency, if anything. We get that again. And and this is where a little bit of the almost a paranormal kind of gets intertwined with some of this stuff. And behind me there was a girl's voice, a teenage girl's voice, and yes, this unfortunately this was a teenage female that had passed a teenage girl's voice said run, they're coming, and it was that clear, but it was panicked and the girl I was and we looked each other like did you just hear that? And both of us I could tell
I turned pale. I know she did. She did as well. And just a couple of seconds later we heard something to start howling, and it was further south of us, and it startled us and we're like, oh, heck, no, we're not sticking around for this and it was just one sound. But as we were going from the grave site to the vehicle, more and more started and we took off. We got back to our house and you're talking travel wise, probably seven seven to ten minutes if that.
We're out on the front portion. We're talking about what we just went through. Then all of a sudden you started hearing them more. And then in this park area where that ranger station is at, that's where I could guess where the stuff was coming at. You could hear them starting to pipe up. Now, if it was anything, it wasn't dog man. I mean, those sounds a little different. This is These I think were Kyos, and I think what they In fact, I'm sure these were Kyles,
and I think what they were doing. They were either the ones from the south were either north tracking a deer or you know, game, we'll say game of some sort. But they were converging on the spot that's inside that park and you heard them. You heard the yiping and the hollering and everything else that the Kyots do. And then like, oh wow, that was a Kyle's man, they must be tearing something up, and yeah, like they're frenzy, like they're they're they're frenzy feeding frenzy, if you will,
now they get kind of crazy. And then came another howl that was not them, and distance from just to give you a distance perspective, if it was a quarter mile, that would probably be a long shot. Distance between the house and this park is not far at all. And anyway, there was this howl and it only happened twice, and the only way I can explain it, I'm a fan of different music, We'll say that. And
the initial beginning to the howl was very basy and guttural. If you people listen to like the hardcore death metal where they got that, it was like that, and it was almost even at that distance you could feel it. It was really strange. It was I don't know if it was kicking out that frequency again or what. I don't know. And then it went more into a still a higher pitch, but it was still had that death metal sound, very loud and way too long for it to be a human.
And you heard the coyotes. They were piping up and doing everything and doing what they do. And then one last howl, the second howl of this basic death metal beast, I'll call it you heard it, but it was more how'd you put it, authoritative that, Yeah, it was. It was commanding. It was very like, Hey, I'm ruling this joint and this is the way it's going to be. And after it stopped, the
coyotes went quiet. It was almost instant. I mean, it's like you hear the things of people being out in the woods, there's all the noise of the wildlife. Than when these one of these critives come around, when the cryptids come around, everything gets quiet. Yeah, it was like that, and then that was it. I didn't go out to look even the next day, didn't go out to look, didn't really do anything else after that. And then for a couple of years things were fairly quiet. I
mean, nothing really crazy happened. And now that family that I had mentioned, they had moved and it was just basically further down the street but closer to that part. Nothing crazy. You'd still hear stuff in the woods walking through two feet silhouettes maybe of something, and then you had those on occasion you would look out the front window and you'd have those sky blue topa's eyes again kind of looking and you know, it wasn't anything stationary because it would
blink and it's kind of move side the side. I duck a little bit and then they'll just walk away. We didn't mess with them. They didn't mess with us. They didn't come into the yard or anything like that. Yeah, that was it. And that went on from say, i'd say about two thousand and six, and I think they had left. I think they had moved again. I mean it's like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, haven't been back since. Another issue that I had. I don't want to
sound too freaky, but you know another girl that I had. It was a second wife. This was in twenty thirteen and only one incident. And there's a metro park out by where I'm at, one that I'd mentioned first earlier with the fire department. And then this one is another park. It's a metro park system that we have here in Michigan. And again this was a small one. I think it was fall of twenty thirteen. My wife and I were just walking down one of these back trails won that's a little
traveled. The park. I think it divides Oakland and Livingston County. I think the south end of it. But anyway, we're walking through this trail and out of the corner of mine, it's about fifty yards. It's daytime still, it's I don't even know if it was like four o'clock or so in the afternoon. I caught something running and I thought it was a person to begin with, because again this was small, and it kind of started me like, what in the world are you doing? Is running through the
woods like that? But as I noticed it a little more, and before it got to this largest tree, I don't know if it was like an oak or maple. I suck at trees, but it had ran to this tree and it's about fifty yards away, like that had hair. And I went over to this thing. I'm like, hold on, sit tight for a second. And I walked up to it. The only way that could say it. I walked up to this and this was hiding behind this tree and all this tree easy three feet in diameter. I mean, it's it's
an old tree. And the only thing that I saw its shoulders. I saw its right shoulder and its right arm, right hand, and claws that were they were dark claws. They were proportionate to the body to you know, to the fingers or whatever. But they weren't long like how you see some people get crazy with their long fingernails. It wasn't like that long, but they were proportionate. It had a darker almost like an auburn, like a dark auburn color, maybe a couple shades darker than a what's that dog?
Like an Irish center. And I got probably if I would have taken another step, I probably could have reached out and touched it. I mean, so you're talking probably within five or six feet of this thing, and it was short, you know this, This was under five feet and underbuild. I didn't see any muscle build or anything like that, but I could hear it. And this thing it had a fast pint to it. But
I got that again. There's like a deep I don't know if you want to call it spiritual or not, but there is almost like a empathy. I think that is where you can feel something a person's emotions or something like that. I just had that feeling that this thing was it was scared. I mean the way that it was it had us back to the tree. I didn't see ahead. Its head was turned to the left, and the way it was pugging the tree for the most part fast paced breathing, and
it was scared. And at that point, I'm like, man, I felt like I felt like a button. You know, it's you know, for being listener friendly. Yeah, that's that's how I felt. I felt bad. I really did. I felt compassion and I had a four five on my side. I could have handled it if I, you know, needed to, But why stupid. I just I felt this compassion and I just said, hey, I'm sorry, I'm not going to hurt you. You're okay. And I was really calm with it. It's like you're trying
to talk somebody down. And as I was doing it, it's breathing kind of went down. But I'm like, I'm going to leave now, you're okay, You're all right. And I just said that as I backed up a little bit a few steps, I turned around and got back on the trail to the wife, and uh, that was it. I left it alone. And no, did I keep an eye on it. No, No, I just I made a conscious effort to not look at it,
just in case this thing was looking at me. Leaving, I just I didn't want it to be any more afraid and to some of the other people that put on there. I think it was. I think it was Kai. Maybe it's talked about or was it Kim. I don't I'm sorry for both of that, But I never once thought of mom and Dad were around, never once crossed my train of thought there, And nor did I ever even consider getting a picture or taking a video or anything like that in that
moment. I don't think, really you think about that type of stuff. I mean, there's a couple of things that would maybe go through my head. Is how to put it if you had the time. You got to pay attention to what you're dealing with. And this is kind of a side note commentary here. It's almost like you have to pay attention and be involved with what you're dealing with right now, not oh, I need to get my phone and take a picture. No, no, that's not how this
works. And you know, and unfortunately, and I don't want to bad talk people that hurry up and get their phone out or anything like that and take the videos or pictures of either dogmen or sasquat or whatever. But one, if you're out there walking around in the woods and you got your video camera going or something like that, you're expecting to see something or you're out there with your camera running and you're expecting to film something that's not quite authentic.
That's a good way to put it. So that's how I feel about that stuff now. Further on, and I don't know if I put a date to that, I think that was like twenty thirteen. Sorry, later on personal second marriage didn't work, but I'm now with a good girl side note beautiful wife now. Now was both of our turns, and again this is on them same backside roads that I've run across a lot of these things with. We're just driving back road, and this was twenty eighteen. I
believe this was either late fall or early early winter twenty eighteen. Crazy enough, in the same spot where the girl had the issue with the car breaking down and going out to the same exact spot, and we're just driving around bs and we're talking, our talking our things that you know, husband and wife do or whatever, and out of the corner of her eye up on that embankment, so it had been westbound. This is on the north side
of this street, up on the embankment. We're doing probably thirty and for a couple hundred feet or so, there was something just on top of the embankment that this was black. I know that this was black because I kind of looked to and saw it. It was running with us, didn't attack, didn't jump in front of us, didn't yell and scream again, didn't smell anything. And after it got to a point where it started getting out of the s turns, it just started back off into the taller pines and
that was it. Now one other time that I had had and this is back by that Ranger station in twenty nineteen. I think this was getting into summertime, so I'm going to say it was probably late June, early July, so it wasn't crazy hot yet. I'm out there by this Ranger station, and this is where that Red Dawn movie is going to tie back into as well. And it just gives you kind of a visual with what I'm
dealing with. I walk out there and it's just myself. I go out there and at that Ranger station to the west of it, they have like a little pavilion area. I had to use the bathroom or whatever, and I come out of the bathroom and I'm looking and out of it would be a little further west, a little further south. It's all mode and then it goes down a significant size hill down into like a side trail in a swamp. This was weird. I saw. I don't know if I saw
at top of the head or not. I don't think I did. I know I saw from the elbows up and this headlong hair. Again, you can refer back to the ozy Osbourne Park at the moon thing, but this was blonde. And now I say blonde, imagine the hair of like a golden retriever. It was about that color. I could see long enough claws, big enough hands, whatever this was. It was pretty huge. Being
at the drop off. Again, this was probably if this thing six and a half feet tall maybe, But what it was doing, it was flailing its hands around and I'm like, what in the world is this thing doing? And it was running back side to side from how I was positioned. And I had walked along just on the outskirts of this woodline off to my left, and I got to a spot that was kind of a clearing going
down in these woods. Keep in mind, these are the pine trees where they they're kind of they must have been planted that are kind of rows. And I kind of got to this clearing and almost instinct went into my head. It was like, wait a minute, this is a distraction, and sure enough it was. I turned my head quick and as I did that, there was a black dog man. Now what did I see that? It ducked fairly quick. Now this is probably one hundred feet back in the
woods or so. I wouldn't say any further than that. I saw shoulders at one point, arms and hands at one point, but for the most part its head, its head. It was like a round, fat head. I mean, it wasn't the it was that German shepherd's style or whatever. This is more roundish, like it'd be like a rottweiler or whatever. This was. It was all black and I saw most of its head and it was kind of ducking down behind a log. I'm sorry, not a log, a tree stump. It wasn't as big as a tree stump.
It was just kind of squatting down behind it. And for reference, we're gonna go back real quick to that movie The Red Dawn. If you watch the cabin scene where the two dads are talking with the bad guys on the PA system and there's the kids are they're kind of hunkered down behind a log, yeah, go about seventy five eighty feet behind them, one hundred at max. And it was right there when they shot that movie. They're in
a hotspot for that and them people didn't even realize it. But I'm looking at this thing and me being me, I'm like, hey, it's kind of way. I'm like, yeah, I see, you're good. Don't worry about it. Nothing big. And it's kind of you know, like a dog. Would you know, you speak goofy to a dog, it kind of turns its head. It did that, and I sat there for a couple of minutes and watched it like all right, I'm out that is kind of waved at it and turned around and walked away, turned my back
to it. I mean, so that's how much of a you know, I must be an anomaly with this stuff, because a lot of times I don't get anything. It's threatening, e worked. But other than that, there hasn't been anything. Until talking to the wife. She had seen something here at where we live now, the center of Oakland County, A good way to say it, And this was back in was it last year? No, that's pre COVID, I don't remember. No, it's is twenty
I don't remember. I'm sorry, I don't remember. It's been within a couple of years ago, I think, but it was no, it was last year. My bad, sorry about that. This was last year. All time, leaves have fallen. The wife is getting ready to go to work and she leaves quarter after eight, eight thirty in the morning or cell and she's walking out through her vehicle and between our driveway and the side road that goes along and says, it's heave, it's populated. There was a
wolf. This was on all fours and she had made mention it to me. Between my driveway and the street that I'm on is maybe I think our property is thirty feet that part is like thirty feet, yeah, I think so. But anyway, she said to hers a very large black dog. Didn't really get into specifics other than it was very long and tall, and my wife's she's like five to seven and this thing's head came up to her shoulders not too far away from it. I mean, she was with it
herself, probably twenty feet away from it. And this is I think this is part of that spiritual things because what she said, it did it looked at her and there was a sense of calm that came over her like it was almost like a calm of your being protected. And it just took a few steps and just faded away. That's the only thing that it did. Now as far as the dog Man stuff, that's pretty much it. But I do want to go back a little bit to that Ranger station. And
this is kind of a side note. This is I think where the Dogmen and the paranormal cross pass. Now this area is heavyly line area. I've seen a lot of stuff that would be more for the My Paranormal Experience podcast. But anyway, I had gotten into some issues. I had to do some forced to volunteering, if you want to call it that. And this was back in two thousand and four. Coming back to this, I was
doing my community service. Everything was all hunky dory, and I was talking to the lady that was overseeing me, and she's asking where I was living and what I was doing and everything like that, and I told her and I had made mention of something I think I had mentioned actually that Ranger station. Didn't say anything about the critters, didn't say anything strange, but she's like, oh yeah, She's like, I know that place very well and this lady. For the record, she was a wicked pagan, so that's
the faith that she has. By myself Christian. But she brought up this thing, and my buddy had mentioned it too, the one I had went slanting with, and neither one of these people know each other, but she had said, oh, yeah, there's a something went on in that that ranger station and it man trying to be listener friendly. Some people did some bad stuff to animals and it involved a board. That's a yeah, that's
a way to put it. Sorry, almost got choked up. But they did some bad stuff and opened something up in that house and whatever it is that it was, I don't know if it's still there or not, I don't know. But these kids, she actually knew who the kids were, so late nineties that's when this happened, early two thousand and whatever it is they opened up, they let this thing out, and again she knew these
people and what they experienced was on a bad side. But anyway, getting back to where I see some connection here the dog men, this is how I believe it. My buddy believes it the same way, is that the dog men surround that area and they do not let whatever it is in that house out they're protectors. At that point. It was kind of the same thing here with the wife with this big, this large black wolf thing, and yes it looked like a wolf, not a dog man. But I
think they look out for us when we go out there. Of course, you know, when we go we go out there, everything is respectful, go back to the Native American roots or whatever. That's how it was treated. But I am fully convinced that these things protect us from whatever is in that house. They keep people away from it. I mean, of course, you know, you're going to have your typical village idiot that wants to go mess around and trespass, but well it's a Darwin thing. We'll leave
it at that. But you know, to me, with a lot of the bad experiences, I haven't had any, and they are with what's going on at that house, I can't get over. It's something that you don't normally hear of, at least I haven't. And you know, I've only been watching these podcasts for probably a year or so, so there could be tons of other stories. I don't know, But other than that, it's
I've had no bad experiences, thank god. You know, maybe I'm blessed by God, or I got you know, archangel Michael standing behind me. When these things come out and play, I don't know, but I've had decent experiences with them. My buddy, he one it got thumped a little bit. He wasn't Native American. He was the here. I'm gonna go out there with a knife and an axe and see what I can stir up. But other than that, that's pretty much it with my experiences going from
childhood to now now. Last week, unfortunately, I had a I don't know what that was, maybe a skinwalker thing in a yard. I sent the pictures of the height of where this thing was. But other than that, that's pretty much it. One last thing regards to the different styles I have seen, I know there's different types. I don't get into that too much. I don't. I don't really follow that. You know, a lot of it is your typical dog rear end, human ish type front end
for the most part. Yes, For the one that was standing by the tree, I had a couple instances. One I didn't mention, but but it is what it is. The one that was standing by the tree that had human type legs. But other than that, the rest of them were your human business end and dog like reer end. So yeah, Vic, that's about what I got there for you. Nothing too crazy, like I said, the either one to go or a skin walker thing that I had to deal with here. That was I think I dated that. I had
talked to my aunt on that. That was either on the fourteenth or the fifteenth of this month. But the typical long, lenky body. It had fur on it. It was gray. Give an idea, check out a deer's antlers when they got the velvet on it. That's what kind of what it looked like. The only thing that was weird shoulders. I have a
spot or a light up in the tree. I measured it yesterday. I think it was its eighty three inches under sevent feet that was at its shoulders, tall, lanky, skinny, didn't look emciated whatever that word is, you know, hungry. It didn't look like that. It was Actually it had the body of it was muscular picture Bruce Lee when he would flex. It was like that very defined its head. It was a larger deer head, but its eye location was more predatory. They were more forward facing.
I didn't have eyes and when I mean that I didn't see any It was like the fur skin or whatever was covering its actual eye sockets. And the only other thing that was kind of odd about it was its antlers. I guess that's what you would call them. They didn't go out wide and then go up. They kind of almost went straight up on its head, kind of came forward just a little bit, and then arcd up hard on a ninety angle, and they were thicked. They almost looked like a bunch of
thorns, which was kind of weird. They weren't like a normal deer. It was like thorns. And the thing took a couple of steps. Distance from our tree to the other tree light was maybe twenty to twenty five feet. It took a couple of steps, didn't look at me, and then it just kind of faded out. It faded out like the movie Predator, how it kind of gives you that mirage look. It did that and faded out, and for me, I was it was on one side of my
driveway and I was on the other side. I was kind of looked down, went well, said some choice words, and went back inside and proceeded to tell the wife about it. And thank god, that's about it. I'm in one piece. I haven't become any dog man's ball movement. So I am happy and that's it. That's it for me. You're talking from early eighties to last week, and I appreciate your time. Vic. Wow, Keith, that is a lot of dog men encounters. I don't know
how you've been able to keep your sanity after having so many. Yeah, like I said, it's one of those things. Is I think it really depends on the people. You don't have to be Native American or anything to deal with this stuff. But I think they pick up and I've heard other people say this, they pick up on your emotions, your energy. I mean I really think they do. They know I carry I'm a CPL carrier,
which in Michigan is a concealed pistol license. I carry anything from nine milimeter in pistol form up to we'll say seven point six to two in pistol form. So depending on where I'm at, it's what I'm carrying. Even if I'm armed these things. No, I'm not going to do anything to it. Why, there's no sense in it. Like Kai said, they just want to live. Well, Thank goodness for that that they don't give you any problems. Well, Keith, I'm sure the listeners have tons of
questions they'd love to ask you. When I was thinking about airing a live stream this Friday night, would you be okay with coming back to answer their questions if I did that? Yes? Absolutely great, Well that makes it easy. If that's the case, then yeah, this Friday at nine pm Eastern time, will air that live stream so the listeners can do that. Hopefully they'll have plenty of questions for you, which I'm pretty sure they will. But having said that, thanks again so much for your time and for
coming on sharing these experiences with us. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you. Oh you know you're welcome. Thanks again so much, and have a great night. Dan's year as English