At at Hey, everyone, thanks so much for joining us for this special night Monday Night episode of dog Mean Encounters for Tonight's show. I'm bringing on a Canadian dog mean Encounter researcher. Ever since I started daring episodes of dog mean Encounters years ago, back in twenty fifteen, almost from the start, people would ask me, what about Canadian dog mean encounters? Do you get
many coming in or is it a rarity? Well, I found the perfect person to bring on Tonight's show and answer questions like that and just talk about these encounters in Canada and general without anymore Ado. Let's bring him on here now. Of course, Tonight's guest is Dan Hammond. Dan, thanks so much for coming. Well, thank you so much for having me. This is cool. Well, that's great having you in. I don't know if I'm the perfect person, but I'll try my best. I love that trust
me. You are you are. I'll take your word for it. Dan, Please give us a brief bio on yourself. I am a been a paranormal investigator for seven or eight years. I'm a member of an actual paranormal investigation team called ship Ship, which is strange happenings investigators of the Paranormal and I'm also part of Ontario Sasquatch And for your American listeners or Internet listeners, Ontario is a province in Canada. Tons of Sasquatch signings up here, and
we're getting more and more dog man related stuff as it comes in. I think that, you know, and you might agree with me, you know, wherever you are in the US. Dog man is a touchy subject even for you know, people who believe encryptids and and sasquatch researchers, because it's not uh and we were talking about this earlier before we started to record, that it's a bit of a touchy subject and it's not. It's not like
a Sasquatch is a household name. You know. Like I said earlier, if if you stop someone on the street and, you know, say what do you think about Sasquatch or Bigfoot? They're gonna have an opinion and they're
gonna know what you're talking about. But if you say dog man, you know, you're gonna get a you know, nine times out of ten or more, you're going to get a funny look and people are going to go with the heck as a dog man, you know, or they might think it's like that a kid's book, that popular kids book called dog Man that's out there, or you know, or they're just gonna keep on walking.
So as for losing my camera here, pardon me. Yeah, I mean I love I love all things paranormal and all things crypted, and you know, I have an open mind for everything, and I know these things exist and you and I know that you know that they exist. So I started a Facebook page called Canadian dog Man Encounters and uh, don't get too much interaction from people, get the odd message, and I've had some really good ones. We're for sightings and interactions and we can get into that as we
go in. Well, it goes with that saying, Dan, your neck deep in all this cryptid stuff. I'm wondering though, how did you get to your start? What was the catalyst that got you into this for the cryptids or everything paranormal for the cryptid side. Well, I guess a lot of people will always start out saying that, you know, they saw the Patterson Kumlin film, the Sasquatch film taken in out in California, and it
probably I don't even know how old I was when it came out. It was just a little kid, but I probably saw that and you know, probably fascinated at the time. But I think mostly for me, it started with more paranormal things, Like I grew up in a haunted house as a kid. I went through a lot of crazy things, bad things when I was a kid, and I was asked to put all that stuff behind me until I became an adult, and I think it just it just grows from
there. Like if you're going to be interested in ghosts, then you're you're probably going to be interested in UFOs, cryptids, everything, paranormal. Everything is supernatural. So I can't I can't think of one specific defining moment, but I think it's all like an umbrella type thing. Yeah, it's kind
of like an onion. You get into one aspect of it, and as you get deeper and deeper, you find out about more and more things, and it spreads out and there are more layers and everything, and before you know it, you're just into so many different aspects of it. I definitely understand, Yeah, for sure, I do. Have you had any sightings of your own of a sasquatch or a dog man over the years? Dog men know I haven't had any physical sightings of a Sasquatch. I've had a
lot of interactions with them. I've had you know, we've had the rocks thrown at us. We've had the tree knocking conversations, the footstops, we've left gift you know, we've had gifting stations up north in an area that I go with some of the other Ontario Sasquat researchers and uh oh, and we've had the eye shine and of course seen the little orbs of light floating through the trees. You'll hear you hear a lot of people discuss that and
you know, relate them or in relation to big quod sightings. Uh So, a lot of it has been on the peripheral, like like I said, the tree knocking, the rocks being thrown. But as of yet, I haven't had a physical sighting yet. But there's always you know, there's always hope for the future. Well you never know just might happen, might
happen next week. It's really well, you know, I listened to quite a few Sasquatch podcasts and you know, some of the hosts will say, well, be careful what you wish for, because you know it could mess up your head or or you know, you might see one and you might never want to go back into the woods again. But I've gone, you know, I've I've had some crazy, crazy paranormal encounters with spirits and non
entities or non human entities. So I think I'm pretty good. I'm I've got a bit of an armor up, so I think I'm prepared to see a sasquatch. So bring it on. Well, if an experience does happen, we actually see one, I hope you're right about that. Well, you'll be the first to know. How about that. I appreciate it. You know me, I'm not going to go anywhere, and if it does happen, I'd love to hear about it. So absolutely yeah, thanks for
keeping me in mind. Well, Dan, if you don't mind, let's get down to the nuts and bolts of this, and we're going to have you share some of these dogman experiences that have been shared with you. When you're telling us about them, please be as descriptive as possible. Okay, absolutely so. Probably the first one that I that I ever got through the website or through the Facebook page was a gentleman out in British Columbia in an area called the Okanagan Valley. I've never been to BC, so I can't
really say where the Okanaka Valley is. I think it's it's in the interior part of the province. And this guy, I won't use his name, obviously, but he messaged me and all he wanted to know was how do I kill one of these things a dog man? And I said, well, I said, I don't know if you can kill them. I said, I think more often than that, you'll just piss the thing off, and you don't want to do that. He was at home with his family,
and he and his son at different times or from different advantages. He was he was looking at his patio doors and his son was looking at another window, and they saw this upright man sized what he described is looked just like a jackal. And I've heard people mentioned this before, the jackal the look to them. And he said, this thing paced around his porch and his property all night and he's still so he ran and got his crossbow and
knocked an arrow in it. And he said he sat up all night waiting to shoot this thing, and he could hear it outside after it stepped off the porch, going around his vehicles and and his his I guess his garage or whatever, and he stayed up all night. The sun comes up, he finally gets the uh, the courage to go outside and see if this
thing has gone or not. And footprints everywhere, and his truck, which was a little dirty at the time, because I think he was on a dirt road, had these huge paw prints all over the all over the truck, and the driver's side door was open and you could actually see where this paw had kind of slid down the truck and popped the door open. So yeah, that really rattled this guy. And this story has gone around a
bit to other people as well. I think I was the first one that he told, but it did get out there a little bit within the Big Foot in the dog Man cryptid world, and I haven't I haven't heard from him since I've tried to get a hold of him, but he's either doesn't bother checking his messages or who knows anything could have happened. I don't think anything happened to him dog Man related, but who knows. Maybe just got to read this Facebook page. But that was an interesting one because you know.
I have a lot of the photos and I can share them with you if you like, if you have a site to put them up. Of these these palmarks on the on the truck. I do have a site where I could put those up, but I'm kind of shying away from posting pictures anymore. There's so many haters and negative comments and all. I just try to steer away from that. But thanks for offering, though that's too bad. Well, I can share them with you personally if you if you want,
for your own interests. But but they are they are quite quite something to see. Oh no, I believe it. Do you have any other experiences you could share with this that have been shared with you? There's so there's a lady that emailed me. I don't know if any of your listeners are familiar with Toronto. Charles's a big city. I think it's the fourth or fifth biggest city in North America, biggest sitting in Canada. And we have a federal or a national park called Rouge Park, and it kind of
borders so Scarborough's or Chorno's made up bureaus just like New York City. You know, you're Manhattan and you're Brooklyn. So, Toronto has an area called Scarborough, which is on the far east end of the city and it boarders up to another city called Pickering. And this Rouge Park is about thirty miles thirty square miles and it's accessible three hundred and sixty five days a year.
And this woman lots of hiking trails, ponds and everything else. And this girl emails me and she says she saw this dog man on one of the trails. And this really kind of floored me a bit, because that's almost like saying like someone's saying that they saw a dog man or bigfoot in Central Park in New York City. And she described this thing as humanoid, tall, all black like the Doberman features, and he was at the bottom of
a hill on this trail and it just looked up at her. And the funny thing is, she said it just kind of disappeared, like it didn't run away, didn't you know, didn't jump into the bush or anything, but it just kind of like dematerialized in front of her. And that really rattled her. And she's another one though, that I've I've tried to get a hold of since just to see if anything else has happened and I can't get can't get a hold of her. But yeah, something in a big
city is certainly interesting as well. And you know that that almost ties into a lot of where they're more paranormal than physical. Well, as you know, these guys, they do display some pretty paranormal quality. It's not all of them, of course, but it's not rare for credible eyewitness to come forward. And when they're laying out the details of their experiences, here's some strange things and all. And these people, I mean, they sound credible
as the day is long. So yeah, sure does make you think and wonder if these guys don't almost all have paranormal abilities and quality still. Well, I mean I haven't sorry, you know, I haven't listened to your show, but I think I'm going to now. But you know, I listened to the Confessionals Sasquatch chronicles, and I think people like that. You know, you've got those two camps with the Bigfoot people, and you know, some people are so adamant that it's nothing but a giant hominid, you
know, bipedal quote unquote monkey or gorilla that we haven't really discovered. And then there's other people that say, well, I think it's more paranormal.
They're they're interdimensional. They can use control the vibrational rate so they can disappear, and you know, you hear people talk about encounters where like in the movie Predator, where when he does his cloaking technology, people have seen something like that moving through the trees, and I think, I think dog Man, I mean, just from what I've heard, has some of the same traits or qualities or abilities. So it is uh, I mean, it's
it's even for someone who's very open minded like me. Uh, it's hard. It's hard to believe. I believe it, but but it's it's hard to believe, and it's it's really hard to convince somebody else that that there might be something more to these beings than just flesh and blood. Oh, no doubt. Yeah, we haven't even proven that they're extant yet. If you have a quote unquote creature out there that hasn't been proven to be in existence, it's a big leap to try and get people to wrap their minds
around them having paranormal abilities. But yeah, to touch on what I said earlier, there have been way too many cases of credible eyewitnesses telling me about being in Maine on vacation. One day they have a dog man encounter in the morning, they freak out, they fly home that afternoon, they go to bed after they make it in, and the next morning in Florida where they live, they go out back and bam, the same dog mans out there. So how can you explain that a way as being a flesh and
blood creature. I mean, that's that's something that you hear time and time again when you do what I do. One thing you'll like. One thing you hear about the dog main phenomena is that they're quite vengeful or vindictive. You know, you've heard reports about police officers shooting at them on the side of the road, you know, like your state troopers or our provincial police.
And uh, they'll go home, like you said, and then the next night they'll you know, they're off duty, and they look outside and there's this this huge thing standing in their backyard. It's like, well, how the how the heck did this thing find out where I live? And you know, and what's it doing here? And like and I guess, uh, the shots that I put into it didn't do a darn thing. Anyway, So what's the point? Yeah, that old question, what does
it want? That's probably the most important question right there, if it follows you that far. But yeah, no kidding, Yeah, that's just on a list of questions. Do you have any other experiences you'd like to share with this that have been shared with you? Uh, there's a lady who lives in Alabama. She's been on my my old podcast that I that I used to have, and I know that she has a YouTube channel. I should have talked to her earlier today, but she has uh ask her permission
to give out the name of her show. But she has tons of dog manppearances and I think I think she lived said she lived about twenty thirty minutes away from Mobile, Alabama, and the dog man sightings that she had was on her parents' property, and I guess it was you know, when she still lived there when she was a kid. You know, her property as well. And she's she's even seventy pictures that she's taken. And this dog man looks like the Doberman, you know, with the the ears straight up
and you know, it looks just like a huge Doberman pincer. It would never come out of the bush and step foot onto their property, like the mode long part of the property. But she would see this thing or things, because I think there was more than one, but they seem to be drawn to her and her parents' property for some reason. And getting into the paranormal part of it, she would say that she'd be on the porch or their their back patio and she would hear in her her ear the breathing of
this of a dog and she'd look and there's nothing there. So that we go back into the you know, the cloaking part of things, and like like what's you know, what's that all about? Why why will they allow her to see them just pass the property line? But they'll come, you know, in their quote unquote cloak form and breathe ready in her ear. But they're not doing any harm to her like she's and I don't even think that she's afraid of these things because she's been having experiences for so long.
But yeah, it's interesting to know that there are different looking dog men out there as well. You know, you have the the doberman look, the hyena, like I mentioned before, I've also heard the ones that look like uh, timberwolves and that may be where the lore you know, from Eastern Europe, where the werewolf fable or superstitions came in. Now, I couldn't agree more. I think that's where they did come from as well. I mean, if you think about it, back then, they didn't have a
very impressive understanding exactly of how the world worked around them. So if they're in the forest and they see a dog man, they see it's walking by peal ly Well, dark arts black magic was a big thing back then, so I guess it's a pretty expected thing for them to think, Okay, well here's a person obviously in front of me who via the dark arts, they transformed themselves from the state of a human into that of a beast. So yeah, I'll bet you're right. I bet you that's worth these where
wolf legends came from. Yeah perhaps what like so, like I said, and listen to your show, unfortunately, but what are your thoughts, like
just on like, what do you think that they are? Do you think they're physical or do you think they're more paranormal or well, if you do what I do for any period of time, it's only natural that you're going to bounce back and forth from at one moment being convinced that they have to be ethereal beings from the ether, and then the next moment after you talk with so many credible eyewitnesses who report seeing offspring that are two feet tall walking
next to a larger one, or seeing one drinking stagnant water out of a moss covered pond in the middle of the night, or eating fetid roadkill. Well, that points towards them being flesh and blood creatures, because why wouldn't ethereal being need to do that, and why wouldn't ethereal being have offspring? So it's only natural that you bounce back and forth. I can't really tell you what I think they definitely are because I don't hell I changed my opinion
on that so often. The one, the one thing that really sealed it for me is leaning more towards the paranormal is if you ever read the book Hunt for the Skinwalker by George Knapp, and I can't I can't remember the other gentleman's name, but it was one of the scientists out there on the Skinwalker Ranch in Utah, And there's a park in the book where these two scientists are up on one of the ridges at night and they've got all their
equipment set up, and you know, they're watching the sky looking for UFOs and other strange phenomena, and across this small valley from them, but still up on the on the ridge, they reported that it looked like a tear opening up in the in the sky or in the air, like a blue
tear, and this wolfman type creature crawls out of it. The tear seals itself up and disappears, and this wolflike you know, wolfman creature runs up up the hill the escarpment, and you know that these two guys look at each other like, I think it's time to go, Like we should really get to get the heck out of here. And I think, you know, I think that when I read that, I was like, yeah, that for me, for the dog man portion of it, I think that
that sealed the deal. Because those guys, you know, especially for scientists, they ridicule each other all the time. And you always heard like, you know, bigfoot researchers, you know, approaching universities and biological labs and DNA labs, and you know, they kind of get run out the door, whether they believe it or not, you know, because that reputation can haunt them, Like if they say, oh, yeah, I've you know,
firmly believe in in this creature. But yeah, when I saw that and they were they were willing report on it, is like, yeah, I think, I think that's really sealed it for me, especially from the Skinwalker ranch. It's not like it's bad enough when you consider how big they are, how fast they are, how frightening they look in a lot of cases, but that on top of the fact that apparently at least some of these guys can cloak and some of these guys can do things that are taking
this whole fright thing above that. Even so, it's just like adding insult to injury. It really is speaking of fright there though, Dan, that brings a really good question to mine for you. When you do what the two of us do, I think it's almost inevitable that you have this encounter over here that an eyewitness shares with you that sticks with you. I don't have dog Me and nightmares. People ask that, and I think they wonder
that all the time. When you consider the volume of dog Man witnesses I speak with about their encounters, Well, VIC must have dog Me and related nightmares because he speaks with so many people about dog men as dog men dog me and dog men. Well, I don't. I don't have dogmen related nightmares. But from time to time I will speak with this eyewitness or that eyewitness who shares an encounter or encounters with me that it's a case where their
encounter or their encounters stick with me. And I'm doing whatever, I might be prepping a show or doing this or whatever, walking in the woods, and I think back to what they told me about what they had been through, and I'm thinking, oh, man, that's just horrible, and it just kind of it almost gets me down. Do you have any encounters that
come to mind that have affected you that way? You were affected so strongly when the eyewitness shared that encounter or their encounters with you, that their story stuck with you, and it was almost depressing to think about because you felt so bad for them and what they unfortunately were made to beer and go through.
I don't really, you know, feel bad myself per se. I mean for me, it's more like, oh, I want to go to this location where they had this experience because I want to experience it myself. I just chalk it up like, if they're believers and they can calm themselves down enough, you know, after their account encounters to kind of accept that there are things that go bump in the night and things that we can't explain, then that's good, you know, because that kind of kind of grounds
them a little bit. But no, I mean, like if someone local said, oh, I saw what I thought was a bigfoot or a dog man or something else, the first thing out of my mouth is, well, kind of come out there and investigate, and you know, if they're still worked up and frightened, I'll try my best to, you know, to alleviate some of their fears and say, oh, you know, you'll be fine and and don't worry about it. It's it's just it is what it is. But no, I don't really, I don't. I don't
get bummed out about it. I kind of get excited about it. So well, that's good. I'm glad it's all positive. Yeah, that's a good thing. But there is uh this is a sasquatch related story, and I don't know if you if you want to hear about it, but I do have one where I've one that I've thought about quite a lot, just because of what this poor guy went through if you want to hear about it, well, we try to focus on dog men around here, but why
not. Why not? So we have a huge cottage country about a couple hours two to three hours north of Toronto. We have an area called Georgian Bay, a town called Perry Sound, there's the Muskocas. I'm sure a lot of the listeners have probably heard about these areas. And me and one of the other Ontario sasquatch researchers got called by this gentleman I'll call him Jeff for the sake of the story. Here and his father, who lives in
England, has a cottage. It's on the mainland, but the only way you can get there is by boat because there's no roads going around this part of the mainland. It's a beautiful little cottage. They only use it like maybe once a year. Like Dad will fly over from England and spend a week or two and then he's gone. But during COVID, this guy, Jeff and his wife were looking for a place to hang out where you know, they didn't have to interact with a lot of people, didn't have to
worry about, you know, social distancing. And masking and all that other nonsense. And so they went to the cottage full time, and they were there for months and months and months, and they started having crazy things happen at this cottage. And the one thing that really was really profound is it's the cottage is on like an inlet and like surrounded by like two bays, and the land kind of jots out into the lake. And he would fish
every day in a certain inlet, in a certain bay. Sorry, and a tree came down, like he's looking up, maybe a thirty forty foot high cliff on the one side, and a healthy tree got pushed down just out of the blue, beautiful sunny day. There's no wind, there's no storm, nothing, And he was kind of like, and he's a believer, like he's never he's never had any interactions, but he does believe that there's something out there Sasquatch related. And I'm sure you've heard of the infrasound
that they say the sasquatchin control. And this guy was in his boat fishing, having a great time, and this tree came down, and then a few minutes later he just was overcome with this terror. Like this guy, he's a bit of a tough guy. He backpacks through Mexico. He sleeps in the jungle with jaguars and scorpions, all sorts of things. Like he's not a wous And he was so overcome with terror, like just washed over him that he peeled all the skin off the palm of his hand trying to
get the boat started. Like he literally ripped like a layer to her skin off his hand. He was like bleeding like crazy and trying to get this boat started so he could get back to the cottage. And that was That's probably one of the one of the worst things I've heard, like ormost profound, like where someone has been injured from an encounter, like he didn't see the creature, but even he knew what the infrasound was because I guess he'd
done some research. And yeah, I can booting around in the bay and the boat and like like for gone all like water safety beach, the beach, the boat and jumped out and ran up the hill to the cottage. And yeah, and they had tons of incidents from there on in so much that this other researcher and I had to go up there and spend some time and do some investigations and alleviate their fears a little bit. When you're motivated, it's hard to say what you wouldn't do. So yeah, I believe
that guy did do a number on his palm like that. Yeah it was. Yeah, it was like you said, you said, Dan, you know, I'm a fairly tough person. You know, things don't scare me. But he just was overwhelmed with this debilitating terror and couldn't get out of there quick enough. Yeah. I don't know what it is about the vibrations and the ultrasound or I guess the infrasound, but somehow they can, at least apparently, it seems like they can affect you that way where they can
just overwhelm you with fear. Have you ever heard of dog man doing that as well? Because I've only ever heard of sasquatch they quit being able to do that. I've definitely heard of people being in their presence feeling this overwhelming sense of fear without even realizing that it was a dog man that was there. They were in the forest and all of a sudden they just felt this overwhelming sense of fear, and then later on after the fact they realized that
there was a dog men there. I don't know if that was caused by infrasound or something else, but people definitely on a pretty regular basis report that. So yeah, there must be something to that. Yeah, and it is a real, real thing, Like I know, certain animals can do it. Giraffes can do it, tigers and I think elephants, wolves, So why not? Why not other animals? Even encryptis right? That's true. Seems like the largest example from a certain animal species. They normally tend
to have that ability. It would appear not always, but in a lot of cases that seems to be how it is. I'm wondering to kind of set this next question up. I need to ask you another question, and that question, Dan, is when it comes to the boreal forest, the Great Boreal Forest in Canada, does that would run? That's what I'm wondering about. At one point in time in the States. What's the name of
that forest that is in Texas? Most of it's considered to be in Texas now, they used to run all the way up north to the Canada, the Canadian border. I forgot the name of that forest. But there's a forest in the United States where a lot of sasquatch researchers go in Texas,
especially looking for sasquatching counters well with the Great Boreal Forest. I wasn't sure if that's the same way where the Boreal forest is considered to run coast to coast, east to west coast, all the way across the breadth of Canada. But I know it's broken up now. Of course, over the years, it's been cut into and broken up. But I wasn't sure phil is considered to be one forest still or if it's considered to be broken up.
I don't know. Might have to do a Google search on that. But I mean, I guess if these things are connected, and I'm sure they use travel travel ways, just like I guess migrating animals to right, they take the path of least resistance, or they try to, and they would try to avoid humans and built up areas, I would imagine, but I guess from time to time they they get hungry, or they get curious or lost, who knows, and they end up branching out and ending up in
areas that they're not supposed to be. But I don't know. That's that's uh, that's something to think about as well. Ah the big Thicket. That's what I was thinking of, the big thicket, The Big Thicket. That's right, Teresa address in the live chat. I just looked over and I saw that she she named it for me. My point of time, Dan, that actually ran from Mexico all the way up to the northern border.
But as progress quote unquote progress has come into the picture, it's been broken up and there are still parts of it all the way up to the border. But yeah, it's not continuous the way it used to be.
That's basically what I was wondering about. If the boreal forest in certain areas did run still from the east coast of Canada to the west coast, and if it did, I was going to ask the question if, since it would still be considered to be one forest, I was going to ask you if there was a particular part of the boreal forest, the Great Boreal Forest, that is that seems to be the hottest spot for dog meeting encounters. H I did have a lady from New Brunswick, which is the east coast
of Canada. She was having sightings of dog man like almost every day, like they were coming up to her her windows. She was getting pictures of them, and uh and you know, of course you know, and you know hopefully you're the people that listen to your show are open minded, but h and will accept my my explanation as to why pictures come out blurry. It's because of that vibrational rate that they can control as well and that infra
sound. You know, people say, als, why why do pictures always always blurry when it comes to sasquatch or dog man, you know, And I think it's that vibrational rate they can can control their how they appear. And me see if I can find uh as we're chatting here and find her story, because she was having so many encounters like pictures taking taken every day and she doesn't and she has accepted them, and she doesn't want anybody to them, you know, to her property and do anything, you know,
untowards towards the cryptis that she has there. But you know, and she even talks about, yeah, you know, they're blurry, but but if you, if you have a good eye, you can see the outlines of them, and some of them come right up to her her window, like enough to just pruss their palms on it. So but that might be part of that forest that line across the continent, I think a lot of times
too. And this is another rabbit hole that you could go down, is the tunnel systems or the caves and the cave systems that we have, especially in the US, like in the Appalachians and in the Rocky Mountains and the Ozarks, like because you look at like if you listen to uh missing for one, David Plaidi's he's got this map of the national forests and missing people, and then you overlap them or overlay them with the cave systems that have
been discovered that we actually know about. And who knows that these things aren't traveling underground either and maybe picking people off as they go. Yeah, that's a pretty disconcerting thought as far as Canada goes, though, I thought you didn't only have much at all in the way of caves. I know there's a very large portion of Canada that people just basically have never developed because the
soil level there is so thin. I forgot the name of that rock that's right under the surface, that rock layer, but it's literally just right there, just barely under the surface. So there's no way to farm that particular area and If that's the case, it's just a solid chunk of rock that goes all the way down into the several as of the Earth, precluding the
chance of a cave system. That's not to say that maybe out west there aren't areas where they actually do farm that have an extensive cave system or something like that. But I thought that was the cave in most of Canada, is it, Well, you're thinking about in Ontario where it's called the Canadian Shield, where it's all it's all rock. Yeah, And like you said
that the soil is very thin. It's usually up north there's a craters from meteorites up there, and that's where when the astronauts that were first going to the Moon, when when they you know, were driving around the little dune Buckie on the Moon, they did their training in northern Ontario because these rocks were the closest thing that they had to the surface of the Moon. So, but I have been told by people in the know that there are tunnel
systems under some of our parks as well. We have a huge national or provincial park in Ontario called Algonquin Park and it's massive and apparently there's tons of tunnels underneath there, and I'm sure there are people that know about them, maybe you know, in the government or geologists or whoever. But I think I think that they go on for miles and miles too, so and we get a lot of big foot sightings from Algonquin Park as well. Key systems
like that would be a great way for cryptids to move around. So that's right, And gentlemen in the chat there the truth he says they did their filming there as well. I think he's alluding to them hoaxing the moon landing another rabbit hole to go down. Oh yeah, some of your rabbit holes out there. You can almost take your pick. But you know what, that's good for guys like you and I who are right into the paranormal.
So I mean, you could pick a different topic every night, so you could, Yeah, you definitely could something I'm a little foggy on still a dan. Do you do what you do to try and improve their existence existence of dog men? Or do you just do this to try and for personal discovery and to try and find out as much about these guys as you can
for personal reasons. I don't think that I ever want to be that guy who comes up with the definitive proof that these things exist, because you would probably get a lot of people knocking your knocking on your door that you don't want, you know, men in black type, three letter agency type people. But yeah, I mean, I'm just I've always been fascinated with paranormal, you know, like I said, and more of a more of a
ghost guy, non human entity guy. I don't get. I don't get out as much as I used to into the bush for sasquatch related stuff. But yeah, I just I would just you know, that's that's the dream. I just want to see one. I know they're right there. Like I said, I've had encounters with them with with the tree knockings and the rock throwing and other stuff, and I don't. I just I just want to see one. And if I do, great, and if I don't,
well that's life. And I like, I don't. I don't know if I want to see a dog man though, because I think I think with sasquatch you can kind of reason with them a little bit more a dog man, you know, It's it's like, uh, you know, monkeys, are you know a monkey? You could you could say, okay, you know, back up, and uh, you know, throw them bin in and throw them a treat something. But uh, you know, rabbit dogs or wolves. You know you're not gonna sit there and rub their belly
and and wait until until you know you're good to go. No, you're not. There's no future in trying to do that. Pull back and a stump if you do. Yeah, don't don't rub their bellies. That would be bad. You might make a friend. You might make a friend that you don't want. So yeah, can you imagine that that wouldn't be good? And running in hurts from mister Baker here, I've never heard of people
seeing more than one dog man. I've heard of people seeing troops of our families of a sasquatch, you know, you'll have the mom and dad and and juveniles. But I don't think I've ever heard of someone seeing more than one dog man. Like like you said, maybe they might have a young one with them, but I don't know. That's interesting, But so far I haven't. I think you might have I don't know from another listener or another guest. Oh yeah, plenty of times it's been reported to me where
people have seen several of them together. But yeah, in cases like that. I definitely think that that's the exception and not the norm, not the rule, because when you think about their daily clerk requirements, it would be foolish for them to hang out in numbers for any appreciable amount of time because they would blow through the resources in any area almost overnight. So it just
wouldn't make sense. And also too, animals like wolves pack hunters like wolves, for example, coyotes and a lot of cases, they hunt in groups because in order to dispatch their prey, numbers of them are required to do so. But with dog men, I mean they're going to be able to take down anything that they want that they come across that they have a mind to predate on, so there's no requirement to operate in numbers. So yeah, that's why I think it happens where they do come together in numbers from
time to time. But yeah, I think that's the exception instead of the rule. But I've got another question for you from Andres Carazales. And Andres wants to know we're any encounters and a metal door. I know what he's
talking about. So a lot of people, Uh, David Plaidi's with the missing for one talks about this where people will hear this, like a clanking or this or this the sound of a sliding metal door when they're out hiking in these national parks, and then people will disappear and they're they're you know, no one has ever said, well, here's the reason why. But it's almost like, you know, if you get into the you know,
the rabbit hole of tunnels underneath the national parks, then people upset. Yeah, we hear this, it's like a sliding metal door or a hatch or something, and then boom, Grandpa's gone or you know, or this guy that I was fishing with is gone, And yeah, I haven't heard any like with my limited stories from people, I haven't heard anything of the metallic sounds around dog men or sasquash up here in Canada. But in the States,
in your national parks, I've heard that quite a bit. When here cases like that, that really does point soundly towards the idea that these guys are sent up to the surface by humans or some other party. Don't know what that would be except for maybe ets, but it does really make you think there's got to be something to that. This whole the allegations about how our government is basically breeding these guys or whatnot. So it really does make
you wonder. The next question for you is from Scott Baker, and Scott wants to know I heard of albino bigfoot, but what about albino dog men? Have you heard of any? No, Like I said, I've heard about the ones that look like timberwolves. I've heard about the ones that look like Doberman pincers and the hyena, but I've never heard of melvino one. That would be interesting. That's another one of those things where, if you think about it, if you make your living hunting game, hunting prey,
if you're white like that, that really complicates things. But these guys are so fast and so sneaky and so powerful, and they're implements of destruction their teeth, their claws and everything involved. They're so formidable. I guess they can still overcome a disadvantage like that. If they do have the ability to somehow magically cloak, that just takes that right off the table as being a
handicap, So I guess get around that. I wonder if they can cloak all the time, though I think they're kind of limited to how long that they could cloak themselves. I mean even people. I'm sure that this is a dog man thing as well, not just sasquatch. Like when I spoke about the the two scientists that saw the one come out of that tear, you know, in in the air. So that's almost like an interdimensional thing.
But like you know, I've heard reports, uh from what's you know, what's the mountain and uh if it was Washington State or the volcano that blew years and years ago Saint Helens mount and people have said that they found
like the corpses of burnt sasquatch on this on this mountain. So you got to think, well, if maybe they can't use their their teleportation anytime they want, or they're vibrational, because you think if if they saw this this lava coming down the mountain and these fires, then they could just use their
abilities, their paranormal abilities to get away. But I don't know, it's a I don't I don't know if I ever know, but it certainly makes for you know, great podcasts and an interesting you know, an interesting planet that we live on. That's a really good point I'd never thought of before. Yeah, there were several reported cases of sasquatch being killed in that explosion
of Mount Saint Helens And that's that's right. Yeah, And like I mean, I've seen evidence of uh, you know, following footprints in the snow or in the sand, like on a beach, and they just disappear, and it's you know, you're in the middle of a field and there's nothing, there's no trees nearby to jump into, Like you know, did a UFO pick them up, did a helicopter come down, or did they just reach a certain point where there might be a portal and travel through it?
Like maybe like do they does there have to be something they for them to be able to travel through it, or can they create a portal on their own, like maybe you know, with Mount Saint Helen's there there wasn't anything nearby for them to escape to and they were killed by the fire and the lava. That's a really good point. Yeah, it really does make you wonder. And like I said, that's something I'd never really thought about before
some landing brought that up. I mean, there are credible reports of these guys of sasquatch being hit and killed by cars and trucks. So if that's the case, how did that happen if they have this ability to just wink in and out of existence here, So good point. And the one thing, I think dog Man is more paranormal than Sasquatch because of what you just said, like heard of one's being killed, you know, by a military
or hunters. And but I've heard heard a lot of reports where you know, people have shot at dog Man and the bullets pass right through it or it doesn't seem to be affected at all. Whereas the Sasquatch, you know, you know, you'll see the blood or the fur puff puff up, and and they'll run like they're sometimes you know, you've heard that they're afraid of the guns, like they recognize them as weapons. But the dog Man,
it almost seems to be like gay. I'm not worried at all, Like earlier when I was talking about like the State troopers that have been you know, reported to a shot at one and then they go home and the
next night is staying outside their living room window. Well, most most State troopers that I've ever spoken to, which very few, but I imagine they have firearms at home, and you know, and quite readily, and you know, if this thing doesn't doesn't fear it, or or if it doesn't recognize that it's something they could kill it, then then that makes it I don't know, a little bit, a little bit more paranormal or a little
tougher. So another thing to think about. That definitely does make it awfully difficult and hard to explain talking about this whole false sense of security that guns give a lot of people when they head into the woods and when they think about dog men. There was a guest, a popular guest, who came on about let's see thinking about the episode number must have been about four years ago, I think four to five years ago, who after the show aired
and I checked back in with him. It was probably about a year or so after that episode aired and we had consequently spoken for the last time. He told me about this plan. He had to head into the forest near his home where he knew these guys were. That's where he'd had his encounter. He told me about this plan. He had to go into those woods and actually bag one bag a dog man to once and for all officially prove the existence. Well, he was so confident in the ability of that gun.
I think it was a ten millimeter something like that. That. I just shook my head and tried to tell them, Look, now, there are people who have shot these guys with much more formiderable, formidable weaponry than that a ten millimeter. A ten millimeter is nothing to sneeze at at all, But I mean people have used rifles, powerful rifles, potent rifles to
shoot these guys without any effect. For the most part. You're going to go into the woods and be confident in that ten milimeter to protect yourself and then just basically working through things to make sure he knew exactly what he was up for. If he tried to do that, it became evident he didn't
realize that these guys will take to the tree sometimes. And when I told him about that, I said, okay, well, how are you going to protect yourself if you know you've got one up in a tree above you, and you're looking around like you're just telling me how you're going to keep an eye out, You're going to keep your head on a swivel. Well, they go up into trees also, you know, how are you going to make sure that one doesn't get behind you up in the trees and jump
down behind you and dispatch you. Well, that just absolutely freaked him out. So yeah, I need to land this plane now. Basically, what I'm saying is time after time to touch on what you said about guns. People just really overestimate their ability to protect themselves in the woods with these guys sasquatch in dog men because they think, Okay, I've got a gun, so I'm safe. I'm automatically safe. And all I can do is just try to talk them out of that mindset, and if they don't want to
listen, just basically shake my head because they're not safe. They're not. No, I don't I think you'd have to have twelve other guys with the
same kind of weaponry with you. You know, you're you're just not going to do it one on one, I don't think, unless you get lucky or yeah, who knows, Like you hear about people shooting them and killing them, but well, where's you know, where's the picture of the body, because everybody's going to cell phone, you know, so they've been taken out occasionally, but yeah, not very often at all, would appear now it's like I've got a Oh another question for you from Andre's Carazalez and Andres
wants to know did you notice a cluster of sidings in Canada where caves are large bodies of water are large bodies of water, yes, but not not caves. There's an area not far from where I am, maybe about an hour and twenty minutes north of your a town called Owen Sound. I think one of your other listeners, a lady had mentioned that, Judith. Yes, she says, have you heard about the area around Owen Sound being a dog man area? And yes, And Owen Sound a really nice town.
It's right on like Huron. And there's a place called Bogner Swamp which is just just south of this town of Owen Sound, and we get a lot of dog man sightings there. We get a lot of UFO sightings, sasquatch sightings, and there's a lot of weird, weird stuff that happens around there. We've had reports of basketball sized orbs chasing people's vehicles down some of the side roads. It's just a weird just a weird area you know where you
you know, you drive in, you just get that weird vibe. But yeah, bodies of water, yes, But I'm gonna have to look more into the cave system thing. Well, like you said, the cave system would be a perfect way for them to travel undetected, so it only makes sense they would use them, absolutely definitely. This next one up is from Onyx Moon Home and Halls and their question is are there a lot of missing persons in Canada and if so, do you think dog men slash bigfoot have
anything to do with them? As for missing persons? And this is probably probably the same in the US as well. We get a lot of missing people around we call them First Nations, but you know the you know, the common term is Indian Reservations thunder Bay, Ontario, which is way up north. It's like a seventeen hour drive from here or more. Get a lot of missing people. They call it the Highway of Tears. Out in British Columbia they get a lot of reports of missing people as well, and
a lot of them are around the First Nations or Indian Reservations. I don't think that has entity with dogment a big foot. I think that's like a human trafficking problem that's unfortunately worldwide, and in remote areas. You know, it's a lot easier to pluck people all off the side of the road, hitchhiking or from you know, trucks, truck stops, things like that. So I don't think I don't think that's paranormal. I think that's just terrible
human beings. Yeah, it's a much bigger problem than most people realize. Definitely, it's terrible. It is when we find when we find out where these tunnels are, we should should throw these pedophiles and human traffickers down there. Yeah, if you get out, you're free to go. If not that that'd be a good start. Bigfoot's chewing on your skull, no doubt. Looks like I have another one for you from Ganny Mead, and their question is are the regions in Canada where Canadians are afraid of traveling? I
don't think so, not that I've heard. I'm sure, Just like you know, there's people that walk the Appalachian Trail, which I think starts in Georgia and goes all the way up to the Canadian border, where people have gone missing. But you know that's that's something you know, you just have to be smart, have a tracking system, you know, And Canada we don't. I mean we have guns, but we don't carry them when we go hiking or boating or camping. We'd just rather duke it out with the
big Foot rather than shooting. But yeah, I don't think there's any any any locations out there that we're afraid to travel in. Oh, that's good,
that's a really good thing. But having said that, Canada is huge, like the second biggest country in the world, and I think eighty percent of all Canadians live like within one hundred miles of the US border, which is crazy because like when you look at a map of Ontario, like from you know, just above Toronto and up, it's just one huge forest, like a massive forest, you know, and like twice the size of Texas, but has like a core of the population. Like there's more people that
live in California than all of Canada. We're the second biggest country in the world and it's all it's all bush and so whoever, like there must there might be things out there that we haven't discovered yet in the areas we might have our own, you know, skinwalker ranch type areas as well that we just haven't discovered or for somebody knows about it and they're they're just keeping it
quiet. When you're dealing with an area that big and that remote, you're right, you have no idea what might be out there or what might not for sure. You know, like when people talk about giants in the forest, you know that seems far fetched, but hey, you never know, right, You're right, they've got the room to room out there and never be discovered, so you never do you know. I've got another one for you from Onyx Moon. Their question is are there a lot of UFO sidings
around the areas of dog man sidings. Some people think they are related. What's your opinion on it. Well, that area that I just spoke of, the town Owen Sound, there are a lot of UFO sidings and not just like I'm not just talking about the ships, but they've got these huge basketball signed orbs, and there's a lot of Bigfoot and dog Man sidings in that area. And I think that alludes to the portals. I think they all travel through the same same portals, they just to access them differently.
You know, a lot of I hear a lot of people say that aliens quote unquote, like grays and reptilians are fallen angels or demons or you know, demons. I don't think so. I think that they are from another galaxy or solar system or planet, and they've be coming here forever. And I just think that they access I think they have the technology to access different
dimensions and different portals, and I think that's how they travel. They get from point A to point B. Instead of flying for you know, at light speed for years upon end, they just go through these wormholes or portals or whatever. And I think the Sasquatch and the dog man do it naturally, and the aliens do it through technology. If you think about it, we do a lot of things today that people in the olden times would see as being supernatural. I mean, if you traveled back in time with your
cell phone, they burn you at the stake, they sure would. You wouldn't make it too far, right, You're right, just taking pictures with your phone wristwatch would get you killed. Yeah, that's right right. They think it was like you know this, you know, something related to the devil, and you'd be hanging from a tree really quick. Well, you know you would, you definitely would. I've got another one on deck from Deed Truth and d wants to know how do the authorities in Canada react to
hearing about dog mait? Now, that is a good question. Because I have I have tried to speak to park rangers and conservation officers and police officers, especially in the northern parts of Ontario, you know, try and get them to talk about bigfoot or you know. I haven't brought up dogmn to them, but there are there are times where you get a funny look from them and they kind of change the subject real quick. This is this is
more bigfoot related. But there was a gentleman that I ran into it, and he was recently retired from the RCMP, which is Canada's a federal police service, and he's from Ontario, but he did all his policing out in British Columbia. And he told me that he was part of a special group that I think there's only eighteen or nineteen members. But he wouldn't tell me what they did. He wouldn't tell me the name of the group, and
he was very very cryptic about talking about it. And I don't know if you remember anybody else in the chat here remembers years and years ago there was a rash of human feet still inside the running shoes and boots that were washing up on the shores of British Columbia. Oh yeah, and it was just the feet and the shoes were like like it was like someone that had chopped off a person's foot with the shoe in it. But they were finding all
these feet washing up. And I can't remember the exact location between Victoria and Vancouver, there's a waterway there. And I got talking to him about that and I said to him, I said, well, you know a lot of people think that that sasquatch related. And when I said that, this guy's attitude and personally change like like that, and he changed the subject so fast and he shut down that conversation. Boom you took off. And I was like, hmm, like what part of like what what kind of unit
were you in there, sir? And you know, as soon as I mentioned bigfoot, like he shut it down and gone. And that was kind of that was kind of weird. So I think that there are, like I said, there's people in the know, and yeah, and they don't like to talk about it, or they or they were you know, I'm sure they signed huge non disclosure agreements too. Oh, they definitely don't. And it sure sounds to me like you hit a soft spot with that comment. Oh yeah, and yeah, and I've and I've heard of sorry to
drop. I've heard of RCMP units coming out of the bush like armed to the teeth, you know, and people say, oh, like, what are you guys doing, you know, you know, because there's a missing person reported, and these tactical units said, listen, we've already searched over there. Do not go over there. You guys can search down by the river, you can search here and there, but do not go up this
valley, like under no circumstances. And even David Plais from Missing Forward and One has has gone through the Freedom of Information Act and asked for reports from the RCMP and other police services you know in North America, and they're so redacted. It's like it's just like one big blacked out report. And she's like, well, if they're just searching for a missing person, and then then why is it redacted? And why these guys aren't like they're ready for
war. Right, that's a really good point. Yeah, there's clearly more to it, but they're never gonna let us know. I can understand why they don't want us to know. But yeah, it's just one of those things that really sticks in a lot of people's craw The fact that the governments are never gonna let us know. Tell you what, Dan, We're getting close to time to get out of here, but before we do, do you have any clothes and comments you'd like to share. I wish I could
have got more to more of your your listeners here. But you know, if if you're if you're going to go out into the woods, you know, especially if you're really wanting to look for dog man or or bigfoot, I would say put a a go pro on your back, as you know, especially if you're looking for something, because I think a lot of times people miss the things that peek out and dart out behind them on the pathways
and go with you know, like be smart about it. Go go with a friend, or if you're not going to go with somebody, let somebody to know where you're going, what time you're going to be there, what time you're going to come out. You know. David Plaiti's really suggests that you take a personal location peaking with you, but you know those are those are pricey and not everybody wants to pay for those things. But just be careful out there and if you see something, let vic know, let me
know and come on the show. That'd be awesome. VIC needs more people, right, Well, thanks for the plug, Bud, you're the guest. Let's share that contact info one more time for you. If anyone's had a Canadian related dog man encounter, what's the best way for them to contact you? Again, Dan, So, I have a Facebook page called Canadian dog Man Encounters and there's all. There's also the Strange Happenings Investigators of the
Paranormal Paranormal page and that's about it. Well, that makes it really easy, and I am good at responding to people. I don't ghost people, and you know, so if you have if you have a question or you have a sighting, and some people had mentioned about some of the pictures, I'll be more than happy to share them if anyone wishes, So let me know. Dan. I can't thank you enough for coming on and not only sharing all those experiences with this from people who have contacted you, but also
answering all these questions. I really appreciate it. Well, I appreciate you having me on. Like I said, I used to be a podcast host and it's been a long time since I've done anything like this, and it was nice, always fun to talk to talk about the paranormal. It's never a the whole moment. I know what you mean. Can I do one shameless pluck by all means? So? I have a book written. It's on Amazon. Where's my Camera. It's called Strange Happenings, A Paranormal Investigator's
Story. All you got to do is type my name in Dan Hammond and I'm the first thing that pops up, and it's all about all my strange and bizarre encounters with the paranormal. And there's some remote viewing stuff in there as well, if anybody is interested in that. And yeah, that's my shameless plug. Well, nothing wrong with that, And of course I'll make it easier for the listeners to find it than that. What I'll do is for the description for tonight show, I'll post a link to that book on
the Amazon. If you can send me that link, that'll make it really easy for them to find it. And also too, I'll post a link that they can use to come right to you and report their citing. If they've had any sightings or experiences in Canada, how about that? Absolutely? And if it you know, it's just not to be Canada. But if you have some some crazy things that have happened to you, you've seeing them, By all means, let me know and let think know as well.
Well, I appreciate it, you know. If I can never help you in the future, by all means, please do you let me know. Of course, not very hard to find, yep, especially down now that we're connected and we're good to go. That's right, that's right. Well, thanks again so much for your time, Dan, and of course have a great night. Very welcome and thank you to everyone in the comments. Thanks, we'll see. Well that does it for another show, of course.
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