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Doctrine and Devotion

Joe Thorn & Jimmy Fowlerredcircle.com

Doctrine and Devotion is a weekly podcast exploring Christian faith and practice from an experiential perspective marked by the fun and humor that characterize real friendship.

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Episodes

The 1689 on God's Decree (3.2-3)

The guys are back on the 1689 Confession and cover chapter 3 paragraphs 2 and 3. What is the sovereign choice of God to save individuals based upon? What's the difference between predestination and reprobation? What is the goal of his decree? And how should these doctrines impact our piety? Plus, a neighbor with a leaf blower drives Joe nuts while recording this episode.

Jul 30, 201826 min

Service, Sacrafice, and Sabotage

The guys are back in the cigar shop, this time talking about service and sacrifice in the local church. What does it mean to "serve" one another in the church? How is sacrifice a part of true service? What are the ways in which we sabotage service in the local church? OUR SPONSOR FOR JULY This month we are proud to be sponsored by Ligonier Ministries who are offering our listeners 15 months of Tabletalk Magazine for only $23. That's 15 print issues delivered monthly at the regular annual rate of...

Jul 26, 201826 min

The 1689 on God's Decree

Joe and Jimmy are talking about God's Decree from the 1689 3.1. What is the decree of God? If God has foreordained whatsoever comes to pass does that make him the author of sin? Does it make us all robots? And what good does this doctrine do for our faith? OUR SPONSOR FOR JULY This month we are proud to be sponsored by Ligonier Ministries who are offering our listeners 15 months of Tabletalk Magazine for only $23. That's 15 print issues delivered monthly at the regular annual rate of $23. Plus, ...

Jul 23, 201832 min

Debt-Free Virgins

The guys are hanging out at the cigar shop (that's what the background noise is talking about a frustrating article that got a lot of play this week. Men Prefer Debt-Free Virgins Without Tattoos got a lot of play on the interwebs and created some good conversations. Joe and Jimmy thought the article downplayed redemption, idolized marriage, and implied that women are generally dumb and helpless. What do Christian men find attractive in a woman? Are all women called to marriage? How do Christians...

Jul 19, 201840 min

The 1689 on the Trinity (2.3)

Today the guys sit down to (re)record and episode on the 1689 Chapter 2, paragraph 3, regarding the doctrine of the Trinity. How important is this doctrine? Why does the 1689 use the word "subsistence," instead of "person"? How do the guys feel about Trinitarian analogies? How is the doctrine of the Trinity the "the foundation of all our communion with God, and comfortable dependence on Him"? Plus, Jimmy has a really bad day, and Joe "bah, bah, bah's" the Scripture. RECOMMENDATIONS The Holy Trin...

Jul 16, 201838 min

Why People Change Churches

Jimmy and Joe post up in the office to talk through an article on Ed Stetzer's blog, The Exchange, about why people leave one church for another. New Research: Churchgoers Stick Around for Theology, Not Music or Preachers by Bob (Santana) Smietana is very interesting. Be sure to check it out. What percentage of people in a local church are considering moving on? What are the primary issues the move people to leave a church and seek out another? The research included in this article states that m...

Jul 12, 201837 min

The 1689 on God (2.2)

Joe and Jimmy open up the 1689 Confession and focus on Chapter 2 paragraph 2. How is it true that God does not need us, or derive glory from us? What is the glory of God, and if we do not add to God's glory, how can we glorify him? Why can God do whatever he wants to and for us, and why do we push back against high views of God like this? Plus, Joe has a breakout, and Jimmy refuses to pick people up from the airport. Have you checked out our new site, the1689confession.com? It is the best online...

Jul 09, 201835 min

Answering Recent Questions

Jimmy and Joe answer some of the common questions that have been coming in through email, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Here are just a few of the questions the guys answer: Does Joe think minorities can be racist? Why does Jimmy say "No Way Wayne"? (Or just watch this video) Who is Joe talking about when he mentions "Tijuana Smalls?" Did Jimmy really vote for Trump? Where do Joe and Jimmy stand politically? SPONSOR FOR JULY This month we are proud to be sponsored by Ligonier Ministries who ...

Jul 05, 201829 min

The 1689 on God (2.1)

Jimmy and Joe dip into Chapter 2 of the 1689 Baptist Confession on God and The Holy Trinity. What should this high view of God in paragraph 1 do to us who believe it? Plus, Joe wears sunglasses indoors while recording this episode. This month we are proud to be sponsored by Ligonier Ministries who are offering our listeners 15 months of Tabletalk Magazine for only $23. That's 15 print issues delivered monthly at the regular annual rate of $23. Plus, you get digital access to current and past iss...

Jul 02, 201835 min

Comfortable Christianity

Joe and Jimmy talk about the danger of "comfortable Christianity." How is comfort potentially at odds with the nature of the Christian life in the world? Is it fair to compare our desire for worldly comfort to the prosperity gospel? What's the difference between comfortable Christianity, and comforting Christianity? Plus, the guys are reading Covenant Children Today by Alan Conner, and Jimmy is taking off on a lake yacht. OUR SPONSOR myXP is a ministry committed to solving problems for pastors. ...

Jun 28, 201835 min

The 1689 on Scripture (1.9-10)

The guys wrap up chapter one of the 1689, paragraphs 9 and 10, exploring the analogy of faith and the analogy of Scripture. Plus, should we keep an "open mind" when reading Scripture and discussing theology? Listen in and let us know what you think. OUR SPONSOR myXP is a ministry committed to solving problems for pastors. We provide the support of an Executive Pastor without the financial burden of employing one full time. We support lead pastors, strengthen systems and steward resources. How do...

Jun 25, 201829 min

Evangelism and Easy Believism

The guys are back, celebrating Jimmy's birthday and talking about some concerns they have about some of the evangelistic practices common among baptists. What is easy believism and what is the danger associated with it? Joe mentioned Tom Ascol's reflection on the 2018 SBC, you can read that here .

Jun 21, 201835 min

The 1689 on Scripture (1.7-8)

Jimmy and Joe post up at the cigar shop on a busy Sunday night to talk about the 1689, the scripture, perspicuity, inspiration, and translations. Plus, the guys are, as usual, very "vulgar." Be sure to follow along at the1689confession.com. OUR SPONSOR myXP is a ministry committed to solving problems for pastors. We provide the support of an Executive Pastor without the financial burden of employing one full time. We support lead pastors, strengthen systems and steward resources. How does it wor...

Jun 18, 201836 min

Stress

Joe and Jimmy post up at the cigar shop to talk about the problem of stress and how they deal with it in their own lives. Be sure to share your best tips online for dealing with stress, and use the hashtag #docanddevo. Recommended Stress: Peace amid Pressure by David Powlison The Happy Christian: Ten Ways to Be a Joyful Believer in a Gloomy World by David Murray Reset: Living a Grace-Paced Life in a Burnout Culture by David Murray Refresh: Embracing a Grace-Paced Life in a World of Endless Deman...

Jun 14, 201843 min

The 1689 on Scripture (1.6)

It's Monday, which means it's another episode on the 1689. Jimmy and Joe talk through Chapter 1 paragraph 6 and the scope and sufficiency of Scripture and the doctrine of illumination. But first, banter the must, and banter they will. We had some minor sound issues on this episode. We appreciate your patience as we continue to work on and improve our recording. OUR SPONSOR myXP is a ministry committed to solving problems for pastors. We provide the support of an Executive Pastor without the fina...

Jun 11, 201844 min

Our 200th Episode

This is the 200th episode of Doctrine and Devotion (not counting our bonus episodes), and Joe and Jimmy talk about what they've learned, and what they look forward to. Plus, they answer a listener's email about worship leaders vs. worship pastors and women in ministry. OUR SPONSOR myXP is a ministry committed to solving problems for pastors. We provide the support of an Executive Pastor without the financial burden of employing one full time. We support lead pastors, strengthen systems and stewa...

Jun 07, 201838 min

Bonus Episode: The State of the SBC

Who wants a bonus episode?! Jimmy and Joe sit down to chat about the current state of the Southern Baptist Convention. They walk through some of our history and developments as a convention, the theological drift, the conservative resurgence, and where we are today. What are our current problems and what lies behind them? Plus, what are a few things we should do as Southern Baptists and SBC churches? OUR SPONSOR myXP is a ministry committed to solving problems for pastors. We provide the support...

Jun 06, 201837 min

The 1689 on Scripture (1.2-5)

Jimmy and Joe jump back into the 1689 Confession and are talking through Chapter 1 paragraphs 2 through 5. Why do we only have 66 books of the bible and exclude the Apocrypha? Concerning those 66 books that make up Scripture, how do we know they are of divine origin? Dig deeper into the issues: The Apocrypha: Is it Scripture? Reasons why the Apocrypha does not belong in the Bible How We Know the Bible Is True Canon Revisited: Establishing the Origins and Authority of the New Testament Books by M...

Jun 04, 201831 min

Reckless Love

Joe and Jimmy are back and wind up talking about the popular worship song, "Reckless Love," and how hey think about modern song choices for corporate worship. Does a song's author determine it's value and use in the church? If Bethel is out does that mean Horatio Spafford (It Is Well With My Soul) out as well? What are some of the important considerations that go into choosing worship songs for the local church?

May 31, 201831 min

The 1689 on Scripture (1.1)

Joe and Jimmy kick off a walk-through of the 1689 Baptist Confession. For as long as it takes the guys will take every Monday to talk through a section of the confession seeking to show how it relates to Christian experience. Today is Chapter One, paragraph one, Of the Holy Scriptures . What does it mean that the Bible is "the only sufficient, certain, and infallible rule of all saving knowledge, faith, and obedience." Why did God give us the Scripture? Be sure to check out our new 1689 website,...

May 28, 201830 min

Why So Silly?

Jimmy and Joe are back behind the mics, hiding from the mean and hurtful works of an online hater. On today's episode the guys walk through the issue of silliness and soberness. Are these two always goofing around? Are they ever serious? Is there a reason behind the fun and humor of Doctrine and Devotion?

May 24, 201828 min

How to Preach Law and Gospel

Pastors Joe and Jimmy are back to talk about the danger of moralistic preaching and how we can effectively preach or teach the commands of God connected to the gospel of God by walking through part of Joe's article, Killing Moralism. If we are going to preach the commands of God we must: 1. Show the God of the Command 2. Show the Grace Behind the Command 3. Show the Gospel Above the Command

May 21, 201827 min

Selfies and Selfism

Josh Buice wrote a blogpost on the problem with selfies and self-worship called, Confessions of a Selfie-Saturated Culture . Someone tagged Joe in social media regarding that post and here we are. Josh has some good things to say, and Jimmy and Joe jump in to riff on the concept for 30 minutes. Why is pride dangerous? How do we excuse it? And how can w combat it? Plus, Owen Strachen raps.

May 17, 201835 min

Patterson, Abuse, and Misogyny

Joe and Jimmy recorded an episode on Dr. Paige Patterson's remarks about women, abuse, and how women are treated in the evangelical church in general. But before we could publish this episode there were further developments. So we have added an update to the front of the episode addressing the SBC President's remarks on the Patterson situation, and Dr. Patterson's apology. So the first 16 minutes of this episode is the response to the most recent stuff, and then the original recording begins....

May 14, 201858 min

Doctrine and Devotion Live

Todays episode was recorded live at the 2018 Doctrine and Devotion Conference, The Spirit and The Church . This is a conversation on conferences, and what them worth attending. What makes a conference a drag, and what makes them a great experience? Plus, Joe sneezes and Jimmy blesses — incorrectly.

May 10, 201828 min

Those Who Hunger

The guys sit down on a Sunday afternoon to talk about those who hunger for righteousness and how Christ alone satisfies. Recap: the awakened soul hungers for pardon, purity, peace, and purpose.

May 07, 201826 min

The Need to Read

Jimmy and Joe are back talking about why reading is important and how to get the most of what we read. What is the value of reading fiction, history, politics, and theology? And the guys give 8 ways to get the most of what you read: 1. Know Your Goal 2. Choose Wisley 3. Get Oriented 4. Read Prayerfully 5. Read Carefully 6. Mark it Up 7. Take Notes 8. Share What You're Reading Be sure to check out our episode, The Need for Preachers and Teachers . Our Sponsor This week's sponsor is Ligonier Minis...

May 03, 201829 min

The Need for Preachers and Teachers

Jimmy and Joe talk about the church's need for preachers and teachers, and why some Christians push back against the idea. What is the difference between "the priesthood of all believers" and "the priesthood of the believer"? Does having preachers and teachers create an unnecessary distinction between believers? Why exactly does God give the church preachers and teachers? Check it out and share your thoughts on social media. This week's sponsor is Ligonier Ministries, and they are offering our l...

Apr 30, 201833 min

The Conference That Killed Doug Logan

Joe and Jimmy are back recapping the 2018 Doctrine and Devotion Conference, The Spirit and the Church . Much praise to God for an exciting weekend filled with experiential theology, sweet fellowship, great swag, and amazing people. Plus, the guys tell the tale of how this weekend almost killed Doug Logan, and they ask listeners to identify which McDonald's menu item Joe Thorn really is. Share your thoughts on social media with the hashtag #docanddevo. Be sure to grab the new 2018 Doctrine and De...

Apr 26, 201832 min

Ministry Schedules and When to Say No

Jimmy and Joe are back, bickering, and pastors and talking about their schedules and when to say "no" to some responsibilities. This means this is not just a conversation about pastors, but about all Christians involved in ministry. What does Pastor Joe's schedule look like? How does Jimmy balance his schedule in a bi-vocational ministry context? How do we determine our schedule for ministry, and when do we need to say no to some good works of ministry? Plus, Jimmy explains, "every 'yes' is a 'n...

Apr 19, 201838 min
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