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Reacting to Am I The A**hole situations. #413

May 21, 202420 minEp. 413
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Dr. Nii and Dr. Renee react to videos on social media of people asking about situations in their lives and if they are the a**holes for how they handled it.

Things to expect in this episode:

  • Are verbal agreements legally binding?
  • Would you out your sibling to an inlaw?
  • Are you obligated to fulfill a verbal promise made before a falling out in a relationship?


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Verbal Agreements and Legal Obligations

Speaker 1

Yo , if you have a verbal agreement with someone can you be held like legally liable to still pay that person's tuition ? I'm like hell , no , she's like well , legally yes .

Speaker 3

No , I said legally maybe , because if there's a meeting of the minds and the verbal agreement says if you make it to medical school I will pay your entire tuition , for example , if you win the lottery I will give you half . And if you win and I don't give you half , what happens ? I think people go to court and people actually win .

Speaker 1

Like I tell people on Instagram all the time , if you listen to Docs Outside the Box , I'll give you $20 .

Speaker 3

Now everybody gonna go and take you to Judge Judy Shut up .

Speaker 1

I'm Dr Ne , dr Renee . Yeah , we are live , and after dark , kids are asleep and we want to talk about some stuff .

Speaker 3

Yeah , we want to talk about some of the ish on our feed .

Speaker 1

Who's watching us ? Who's watching us ? How do we know who's watching us ?

Speaker 3

I don't know , let's just do the live and then , if nobody watching , Somebody on Facebook is watching us . It's probably me signed in it's your mom .

Speaker 1

My mom on Facebook , all right . So what are we talking about ?

Speaker 3

So we're going to talk about some things that you know we've seen on our feed . There's a lot going on out there in the world Some things that are real heavy , some things that are really light .

Speaker 1

Let's keep it light .

Speaker 3

You want to keep it light ? All right . So I'm going to share my screen and see what comes up for us .

Speaker 1

Don't share all your tabs .

Speaker 3

So what happened ?

Speaker 1

I said don't share all your tabs .

Speaker 3

All my tabs are going to be showing on Instagram . I mean well , basically on Instagram .

Speaker 2

Recently , when I received an email from the college regarding the upcoming semester fees , I responded , but they should direct any further inquiries to Cindy . Cindy called me screaming and crying and accusing me of being cruel and heartless for cutting her off . She says that her family couldn't afford the tuition and that she would have to take out a loan .

I told her she's not my concern anymore and I blocked her . This decision has caused a rift among my friends and family . While most of them support my decisions , some have criticized me for not honoring my previous promise to Cindy .

Even my own mother is urging me to reconsider , citing my past promise and the fact that paying for Cindy's education wouldn't be a financial issue for me . Truthfully , I have the means to pay for Cindy's entire medical school education without difficulty , but I can't shake the feeling of betrayal caused by Claire's cheating and Cindy's complicity .

But I feel conflicted . So am I the wrong person ? Nope , am I the asshole ?

Speaker 1

Hmm , so Well you have to stop sharing .

Speaker 3

Well , so is he . Is he the a-hole ? No , they can see us . Is he the a-hole ?

Speaker 1

Oh , they can still see us . Yeah , hell , no , he's not the asshole , why not ? I definitely wouldn't pay for her . You wouldn't pay , no , so let me just make sure I'm correct Cindy is his ex-wife .

Speaker 3

Yes .

Speaker 1

Claire is the Sister Sister and Claire is the one that he's supposed to be paying tuition to right . Yeah , tuition for yeah , absolutely not . Yo I complicit and not saying anything , that bank of knee darko would be closed .

Speaker 3

Hell to the nuts , so you wouldn't pay for my sister .

Speaker 1

Absolutely not . No , if she was complicit in letting you cheat no , absolutely not . I guess you're going to have to go to the bank and get your own loan , because you ain't getting it from me . So what was ?

Speaker 3

she supposed to do ? What was she supposed to do ?

Speaker 1

So okay . So here's . Here's the thing , right , like the way how I look at it is once you marry someone , you become family , right , and in family you're not supposed to have like favorites , right ? Okay ? So you chose your favorite by deciding to side with your sister , okay , and that inevitably caused the destruction of our relationship .

This relationship is done , so we don't have any type of . Now that we're done and we're not married anymore , there is no like , what's the word Loyalty ? Well , it's not even loyalty anymore . Now it's are you going to keep your word in terms of providing education to her or providing a financial means for her ? That's gone , right , okay .

So I would say no , I don't owe you anything . Okay , I would have preferred if you helped me maintain my relationship with my wife at the point .

Speaker 3

No , but that's what I'm asking . What do you think that she should have done ? Because if she had divulged that information right , then potentially that might have ruined the relationship that she has with her sister .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I got it , but because she didn't say anything it made the . Well , we don't know that she didn with her sister . Yeah , I got it , but because she didn't say anything it made the .

Speaker 3

Well , we don't know that she didn't say anything to her sister . We don't know that she didn't say anything to her sister . I mean , she could have said something to her sister .

Speaker 1

What does complicit mean ? Did he talk about what she did ? The sister ?

Speaker 3

did I forget ?

Speaker 1

Because that's the key she was helping arrange the secret rendezvous . How complicit is complicit Either way , no .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I mean . It's not that I don't agree with you , it's a no for me . I agree with you , I do agree with you .

Speaker 1

I know your questions will kind of help to possibly sow seeds of doubt , but there ain't no doubt for me . Once we got the deed , the divorce we done . That was it . That was it . Here's your FAFSA .

Speaker 3

Right . So what's her name ? Cindy ? Cindy , I think , is the sister's name , so Cindy has to pay for herself , absolutely .

Speaker 1

Yeah , what are your thoughts ?

Speaker 3

No , I mean , I agree with you . I think that once that relationship is done , it's done . The only question is is there a legal obligation ? Because you already said that you were going to pay for it .

Speaker 1

How can there be a legal ? How can you put someone on the ? How can you ? I mean , there's no contract right . No , that's a verbal agreement .

Speaker 3

So that's a verb , that's a verbal agreement . I understand that ?

Speaker 1

I understand that . I understand that . Can that be legally back ? Can you take someone to court for that ?

Speaker 3

Well , I mean , you could take anybody to court for anything , but that actually might be legally binding , really .

Speaker 1

So if you promise to get something for somebody verbally , they can take you to court because you didn't get it for them and they would win .

Speaker 3

Possibly .

Speaker 1

Possibly Based off of what ?

Speaker 3

Based on the fact that there was a meeting of the minds . Right , there was a meeting of the minds about something . If I get into medical school , you agree to pay for that right ? I mean , it's like any other service right , like if I , you know , if I decide to be your wedding planner , you will pay me for that ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , but usually you're signing something , you're putting a deposit down . Not always , though , and so forth , but has somebody ever won that argument ?

Speaker 3

A verbal agreement ? Yes , yes , absolutely . Where In the absence ?

Speaker 1

well , you know what I'm about to say you go to Judge Judy all the time . That's right Judge .

Speaker 3

Judy Shut up .

Speaker 1

I want to know is that the case ?

Speaker 3

No , but if there is a meeting of the minds . Absent of a written contract ?

Speaker 1

absent of a written contract if there is a meeting of the minds , it is very possible that that is legally binding . So on , judge , judy has that occurred ?

Speaker 3

Yes , absolutely . That happens all the time .

Speaker 1

Give me an example real quick , if you can think of one .

Speaker 3

It happens . All that's most of her problems on the show . Yes , that is most of the cases on the show . Most of the cases on the show come about because people do not write written agreements . They don't have written agreements .

Speaker 1

Okay , so then let me ask you this question . So then , if a guy proposes to a woman and- .

Speaker 3

That's a different story . He gives her an engagement ring . That's a different story .

Speaker 1

Isn't the engagement ring on the premise that you are going to move forward with marriage ? Yes , okay , so then if the marriage doesn't go forth right , correct . If the marriage Then she has to give the ring back . If the marriage , then she has to give the ring back . So she has to give the ring back , right , but I thought like it's a gift .

Speaker 3

No , no , no , no , it's a . It's a conditional gift , right , it's a conditional gift because it's based on the premise that it will lead to a marriage . Right , right . So , for example , let's say they get . Let's say they do get married . Right , let's say they do get married .

It is possible that if the woman decides like listen , I want to divorce you the following week , that she could keep that ring because she went through with the marriage , technically it's possible . I don't know , I'm not a lawyer , I can't say . I'm just saying that it is very possible that there could be some sort of so there's no room for reneging .

Speaker 1

I don't understand that part . You can't just say I just don't want to pay anymore .

Speaker 3

No , you can't do that . You have to have yet another meeting of the minds or you now have to have something written . For example , if you have something written , right , if you have something written . Once you have a written agreement , I shouldn't let you watch Judge Judy all the time .

Once you have a written agreement , a written agreement , I shouldn't let you watch Judge Judy all the time . Once you have a written agreement , according to Judge Judy , I'm not a lawyer , nobody come after me . But once you have a written agreement , you cannot go back and change that agreement verbally .

You have to write something down , something has to be written to prove that there was a meeting of the minds outside of the original written agreement . But if you do not have a written agreement , if it's just verbal , then yes , you can change the terms of that agreement .

Speaker 1

What if it's not agreed upon ? So what if someone says , hey , listen , like I ain't got the money anymore . Maybe I'll just pay like half a semester ?

Speaker 3

No , but there was a meeting of the minds .

Speaker 1

Originally the person says the person who's supposed to be getting that money says yeah , no , I need the full amount , Right , and then the other person's like I can't pay . So what happens then ? This is all verbal .

Speaker 3

Okay .

Speaker 1

Yeah , stay close to the microphone .

Speaker 3

Okay , hold on one second , hold on . I don't even know if this is live .

Speaker 1

Hold on , are we not live , guys ? We may not be . Yeah , everybody on Instagram . You missed out on so much good conversation , man . Oh my goodness Dang , you missed out . Should we go back ?

Speaker 3

Hey Dr Russell , Aday from New Orleans .

Speaker 1

Hey , dr Russell , yo thank you for those sweaters . Yo , we rocked those sweaters on a live and then we wore it to the SMA conference .

Speaker 3

Yes , we did . Why , yes , we did Baby . Is that how they say it in New Orleans ?

Speaker 1

I'm not going to try to say anything that's going to make me sound crazy , but them sweaters was dope . Thank you , thank you , thank you , thank you , thank you .

Speaker 3

Yo , let's start all over again real quick , guys . I know on YouTube you saw us . I don't know if I get my YouTube .

Speaker 1

You saw us talking about it , but hold on real quick . On Instagram , we're going to replay this .

Speaker 3

Replay this . Okay , okay , okay , okay , okay .

Speaker 1

And then if you're seeing us on Instagram , so they're not seeing what we're seeing .

Speaker 3

Wait , they're going to see it in a second . Hold on , you got to wait , you got to wait . All right , they're going to see it in a second . They're going to see it in a second

Refusing to Pay for Sister's Education

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Speaker 2

So for refusing to pay for my ex-wife's sister's college . I , 30 male , was married to my ex-wife , claire , 28 , female , for four years until I found out she had been cheating on me with an ex-boyfriend .

During the divorce proceedings , I learned that Claire's younger sister , cindy , 20 year old , female , had known about the affair but chose to keep quiet about it and help Claire hide the affair from me and her family . Before all of this , I had promised to pay for Cindy's medical school costs .

As myself and my family are wealthy and despite the divorce , I decided I was going to pay for her education , as at the time , I felt I didn't need to punish Cindy for what her sister did . However , once I found out that Cindy was complicit , in hiding Claire's infidelity , I felt betrayed and decided to revoke my offer .

I told Cindy eight months back that she would have to look for a loan . I had already paid for one semester .

Recently , when I received an email from the college regarding the upcoming semester fees , I responded that they should direct any further inquiries to Cindy Right , cindy called me screaming and crying and accusing me of being cruel and heartless for cutting her off . She says that her family couldn't afford the tuition and that she would have to take out a loan .

I told her she is not my concern anymore and I blocked her . This decision has caused a rift among my friends and family . While most of them support my decisions , some have criticized me for not honoring my previous promise to Cindy .

Even my own mother is urging me to reconsider , citing my past promise and the fact that paying for Cindy's education wouldn't be a financial issue for me . Truthfully , I have the means to pay for Cindy's entire medical school education without difficulty , but I can't shake the feeling of betrayal caused by Claire's cheating and Cindy's complicity .

But I feel conflicted . So am I the law ? Nope , okay .

Speaker 3

She's like nope . So what say you , dr Ne ? What say you Of ?

Speaker 1

course he's not the asshole . He's not . He's not an asshole . I wouldn't pay . I wouldn't pay . So I'm glad that you replayed it , because the first time I heard it I thought that she just kind of knew about it . But it's saying that she was complicit in helping hide the infidelity . So absolutely not , I ain't paying for Jack .

I ain't paying for nothing N paying for jack . I ain't paying for nothing , nary nothing . She ain't getting nothing , nada . So I don't know why you would even offer that in the first place . First of all , he got cornball anyway .

Speaker 3

So well , I mean probably because it's it was his wife's sister and he felt like that was his sister and he would do that for his family well , you shouldn't pay for someone like entire education because they got to have skin in the game anyway .

Speaker 1

so so I wouldn't do that anyway . But anyhow , now that the relationship is over and they are divorced , dude just run turn the other way , ain't paying nothing . So he's not the asshole for thinking that I wouldn't pay nothing . So I don't disagree with you . But what . I she was a part of it .

She was a part of the whole scheme and the secrets and lies and she probably helped usher in some things . No , not paying nothing .

Speaker 3

I don't disagree with you . However , the only thing I would like to know is yo , Cindy , what school you go to , Because we need to have you on the show Cindy not in school .

Speaker 1

That's why Cindy's not in school . Right , you need to fill out a FAFSA .

Speaker 3

I want to know who Cindy is .

Speaker 1

She need to get a FAFSA . You need to get a signature student loan . You need to be beholden . You should have said something , Because that's what I would have been . I'm like yo , this dude is paying for my education . I can't do dude like that .

Speaker 3

I can't do dude like that . I understand that , but would that have ruined the relationship between her and her sister ? It's possible , right ?

Speaker 1

But she's got a relationship with her brother-in-law .

Speaker 3

I mean , I understand that , but at this point the relationship with her brother-in-law seems like it's only financial .

Speaker 1

Well , at this point now , yeah , but she made it that way , right Right , by choosing . She chose basically to hide infidelity . She chose to hide infidelity . In essence , she's choosing her blood sister over her in-law brother , right Right , when , in essence , they should all be considered family .

Speaker 3

Okay .

Speaker 1

What's right is right , what's wrong is wrong .

Speaker 3

Okay , so would you ever out a family member to an in-law ?

Speaker 1

Yes , you would , Because for me what's right is right Really .

Speaker 3

It was going's become part of my family . That's it , really , really .

Speaker 1

Especially if someone's paying my financial aid . Med school Shoot Yo , listen , sis . Yo let me come talk to you right now , sis . I know you saved me from the bully when I was 12 , but listen , odu he going to pay my student ?

Speaker 3

Come on now now Yo , would y'all out your own sibling to an in-law ? That's what I want to know . That's what I want to know .

But when we actually went live , what we came in talking about was is there potentially a legal standing for Cindy to now come back and be like nah , dude , you owe me tuition because you said you were going to pay and listening to it again , especially because he already paid the first semester so which means he started working in on that agreement .

Speaker 1

You watch Judge Judy and I don't know if that's A lot . Can you even bring that in ? Is that really real ?

Speaker 3

law .

Speaker 1

Is that real law ?

Speaker 3

Of course it's real law .

Speaker 1

I don't know if I would rely on that . It's legally binding .

Speaker 3

They agree to whatever she says right , they do agree to whatever she says , so it's almost like is this like a kangaroo court ? And they just like Well no , her cases are supposed to be real so they take them from the dockets of like different , like small claims courts and stuff . So most of most of the cases are real .

Speaker 1

Every , every now and then she's kind of like , yeah , I don't believe this case . So the question I have for her is if this because she she basically Renee's talking like yo , if you have a verbal agreement with someone , can you be held like legally liable to still pay that person's tuition ? I'm like hell . No , she's like . Well , legally yes .

Speaker 3

No , I said legally maybe .

Speaker 1

I don't know . I said legally maybe I don't know .

Speaker 3

Because if there's a meeting of the minds and you have a verbal agreement and the verbal agreement says if you make it to medical school , I will pay your entire tuition . That's like , for example , if you win the lottery I will give you half no-transcript . What happens , I don't know . I think people go .

No , I think people go to court and people actually win because there's a there is a verbal agreement .

Speaker 1

I don't feel like doing the research in that . If someone has seen that , just put it in there in the show notes or something like that . Is there a way we could see notes and stuff for ?

Speaker 3

yeah , we can see some notes . We could see some notes , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

I don't know , but I really I don't know about any of that stuff . All I know is that I verbally say stuff to people all the time . I don't verbally . I do not expect them to come back , like I tell people on Instagram all the time . If you listen to Docs Outside the Box , I'll give you twenty dollars , right .

Speaker 3

But you're not me . There's no one person that you're saying that to . There's no one person that you're saying that to Now . There's no one person that you're saying that to Now . Everybody going to go and take you to Judge . Judy . Shut up Judy . Justice now , which I don't watch . I like Judge .

Speaker 1

Judy , I'm interested in what people think about this , because I don't think this is hard at all . I think that once you get a divorce and also you throw on First of all , once you get a divorce , that's it . You're not like the whole thing about family and the obligations with family . That kind of goes out the window . Right , yeah , we know you .

And then the other thing that is like well , she was complicit in this .

Speaker 3

It's like now you add on like the oil . So let's say she came to you .

Speaker 1

Let's say she came to you . Actually , hold on , why don't you give your opinion ? I said I agree with you , so you wouldn't pay .

Speaker 3

I wouldn't pay . Okay , absolutely . But let's say she came to you . Let's say she came to you and she was like yo , renee , creeping on you , yo , what would you do ? Would you pay ? Yeah ?

Speaker 1

I'd be like yo if it turns out to be true . It's almost like the tip line , right ? Yeah , this is contingent on if the tip is correct . And if I find out that she what do you call it ? She , you know move , shaking and moving behind my back , then , yes , you know , sis , I got you . Thank you so much . You know all these different things .

Wow , you saved me all this heartache . You know what's 200 ? How much is it ? It would have been like he's wealthy yeah , he's wealthy . So it's like a drop in the bucket . It probably got it . Boom , move on . Maybe . Maybe .

Actually , to be honest with you , if I got a divorce and she gave me that information , maybe I'd say , look , I'll just pay your first two cents .

Split Episode

Speaker 3

That's messed up . Nii , that's messed up . Now , you wrong . You wrong for that . You wrong for that , but anyway . So that was the first thing on our feed . Okay , you wrong for that , but whatever .

Speaker 1

What's going on everyone ? It's your boy , dr Nii . Listen , this conversation , this episode doesn't just stop right here . We split it up . So make sure you check out the next episode so you can hear exactly how this conversation , how this idea , how this episode finishes up .

According to the algorithms , y'all like shorter episodes and that's what we're giving to y'all right now . So make sure you check out the next episode to hear the rest of this conversation . Catch you on the next one , y'all Peace .

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