¶ Running Goals and Gym Adventures
I'm trying to start running again , basically . So my goal is I want to run a 5K in under 20 minutes . Eventually , I did a two-mile time trial and boy , you was huffing and puffing .
Anybody listening in that gym would have thought the hell's going on in that gym .
Yo , alfred , you got to play the last like two seconds With the audio oh , oh oh oh oh oh , oh , it sounded like everything except running in there . All right , Dr Rene , let's jump into this next topic .
All right , yeah , yeah .
So what are the five mistakes that you did ? Actually , you know what Five is too much , but I got this from Reddit and should I put so , basically , I know you're going to get on me about this , so should I name the person who wrote this .
I mean it's it's a public post . I don't see what's wrong with that .
Yeah , so I'd be scouring on on Reddit y'all . So in the , some of this Reddit shit I don't even understand . But r slash medical school , that group , I guess Natural plenty 7324 wrote five mistakes you did during medical school which you regret now as a clinician doctor .
Dr Renee , five mistakes you did during med school which you now regret as a clinician doctor Give me at least three , let me talk to five .
Oh shit , word in it . Met you , got with you , married you yeah you got to finish that ?
Because didn't I help you get through respiratory ? Get out of here , renee Me . Stop potting , whatever .
Whatever , anywho five mistakes in med school . Give me three . Me stop potting . Whatever . Whatever , anywho five mistakes in med school .
Give me three . Five is too much and the audience ain't got time to listen to all that oh my god , um damn , you might have to come back to me .
No , no , no , no , you know , no , actually , yeah , so one thing that I do wish is that I had been more open , that I had been more open to specialties , right , because I went in thinking I was going to be pediatrics , thought I was going to be pediatric endocrinology very specifically , and so I was very like , on my rotations I was like , you know , yeah ,
I got to get through this rotation , but I know what I want to do and it turned out that was not what I wanted to do . So I wish I had been , you know , a little bit more open . I think I would have not just learned more , but just kind of enjoyed it more , right , like been in the scene of that rotation , whatever rotation , it was a little bit more .
So that's one . Two , I wish I would have joined an interest group , even though it would have been a pediatric interest group , but I think by not joining an interest group , I kind of didn't I don't know that I realized , you know , that there were not only resources , but kind of what do you call it ? Like things , things you're supposed to do .
You know what I mean . You mean like a school club like those school clubs ? Yeah , like those school clubs , yeah , specialty clubs , like things that you're supposed to do , right , in order to get into a residency .
Huh , you want to be a cornball I don't know if I want to be a cornball . You want to be the secretary for the OB-GYN group .
That's what you want to be yeah Three , I would not have run for or become our class president our first year .
Ooh yeah , let's stick there . Why is that ? I want to talk about that ? Why Everybody ? Just so we know everybody . I want you to listen . Renee's always been a leader , a natural leader . She's also really good at stuffing ballots and I'm going to tell you something right now what Dr Renee got elected under some .
No , I'm serious , renee got elected as class president .
Why are you making up stuff ?
I'm not making up stuff .
Why are you making up stuff Nii ?
So you didn't run for president , you didn't run for class president .
I didn't stuff no ballots , Nii what the hell are you talking ?
about ? What are we talking about ?
What are you talking about ?
I'm talking about you being class president .
Yeah , you just said I'm good at stuffing ballots . What the hell does that mean ? Are you saying that's false or true ? I'm saying that's false knee . What the hell are you talking about I ? Hate , anyway , I really hate talking to you no , you don't you love talking to me .
We pot and we pot and we pot . Okay , so why wouldn't you want to be class president ?
get to the point , um , I don't know that , that I don't know that , that I don't know that that experience did anything for me ?
Um , especially in and not just for me but for my class , especially in the climate that we were in at the time , if you remember , like our school was very um , as soon as we got into school , the vice president of the school just went like , went like militant hey , this happened 20 , this happened 20 years ago .
You already paid , you got your receipts . They can't take your degree . No , I'm trying to .
I'm not saying I'm trying to figure out like what's the right word . I'm not talking about the political , the nice word , I'm talking about what's the right word they try to come martial law .
They try to do martial law on us .
He was like he got like militant , like all of a sudden it was like you can't do this , you can't do that , you can't wear this and you can't wear that and you can't . And it was like , yeah , this is not really what I signed up for .
And so then I had to like then there were like fights because there was the whole dress code thing , which for me I was like is this really like that big of a deal ?
But to some people it really was , and for me it was like it's a little inconvenient , but I don't really care , because people were coming in in their scrubs anyway , and people were coming in in t-shirts and scrub bottoms . Ie knee darko , knee darko would come in . You'd have a t-shirt and scrub bottoms on , looking like an ER doc , you know .
So you either wear scrubs and tims and tims . I did so you either had to wear .
You either had to wear a white coat or you had to wear scrubs , and that was the dress code . Couldn't you wear a white ? coat and t-shirt and tims you could wear something , whatever you're wearing , but it had to be like , you know , like semi-professional wear or whatever .
So , anyway , the problem was that they couldn't police it anyway , but the , the , the student body or the student board actually they were they just kept harping on it and I was like , but is this really such a big deal ? Like there are other things like we should really be thinking about here so you know yourself in the middle .
You found yourself in the middle in the middle of a fight that I really just I wasn't passionate about , like this was not something for me . That was so like oh my god , they're making us wear a white coat . Oh my god , they're making us wear scrubs . I was like it's not that big a deal , because when we go into the wars , what do you have to wear ?
you gotta wear a white coat or you gotta wear scrubs . So I understand we in the classroom the first two years , but damn , why was it such a big deal ? That's , for me , was like there are other things that we could be talking about , what to do , and I get it .
I didn't like to be told what to do , but I also don't like my time wasted and I'm not going to waste my own time fighting something that isn't necessarily very important to me . I'm like so what ? I'll just , freaking , wear scrubs . Who cares ? Who care ? I'll wear a t-shirt with scrubs . The thing is , nobody was there taking a dress code .
You know what I mean . After the first couple of days , people were like , yeah , there was an attendance , there was attendance , there was attendance , but after a while nobody was paying attention to what we were doing .
Nobody was paying attention to it , which is why I was like , damn , the more attention we bring to this , the more attention they're going to pay to it . So let's just leave it alone .
What were some of your other duties as president that you had to do ?
I don't even remember , because this thing was , my presidency was marred by this one thing so much I don't even remember all the other things . Like I was just like why is this such a ? Every meeting , every single meeting , was about the dress code . And so finally I was like guys , is this really such a big deal ? Like nobody's even paying attention anymore .
And then all of a sudden , basically people were clutching their pearls . I was like damn , what did I say ? I was like , damn , what did I say ? Like you know , did it get in your way of studying ? No , not at all . Not at all . It didn't . That was the one thing I could definitely say . Like being class president didn't get him in my right .
I thought we would be talking about ways to better our class right , to better opportunities for our class , and it became about the dress code and I was just like I understand that this man has become , you know , militant and is instituting martial law essentially .
But at the same time I'm like why don't we just for four hours a day is not going to make or break me ? Like it's not . So what , I roll out of bed and I get to wear my own clothes . Woohoo , I'm sitting in jeans . Like , how is that making me a better doctor ? How is that giving anybody any sort of advantage or opportunity ? Like , how is it ?
And for me , like the pearl clutching , when I said , guys , like really is this such a big deal ? Do we really need to ? Is this what we really want to be fighting ? I was just like , oh so , y'all , just for me . That's when I realized y'all are set , y'all are set . This is why this is so important , because y'all ain't got shit to do .
I got shit that I'd like to do , but y'all seem like y'all are set already . So you , you know exactly what you're doing , exactly where you going , you got your connects , you know . You , you know exactly who to talk to . I don't , and so that's what I wanted to do . So I think there was a .
There was a huge difference in demographic and difference between me and my board members , which equated to a difference in what I felt was important versus what they felt was important . And you know , I liked my board , but we just were not on the same page .
We just weren't , so you had different backgrounds .
We had different backgrounds . You know , my whole , my entire board was white . I was the only one that was black . They , they , just , you know , I don't know how many of them came from medicine , came from money , came from whatever , but I didn't , I didn't come from that .
And so , for me , I'm like I'm trying to collect opportunities here , I'm trying to collect opportunities here , I'm trying to create opportunities here , and I can't do that on my own , when you know I have a board that is working towards wearing jeans , because that's the most important thing , you know . And then you see what happened our last year .
You see what happened the last year , right when the dean then went cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs and was like , yeah , y'all can't graduate . The hell , you mean , y'all can't graduate . What are you talking about , right ? So you want to tell the story ? No , man , that's , let's save it for another episode , but I get what you're saying .
Basically , what you're saying is , um , the priorities that you had weren't the priorities necessarily of your board and stuff . No , and I got you . I feel you on that . Um , let me , let me .
Let me talk about one big mistake that I wish I had done , um , which I made in med school that I wish , that I still regret now , is that I realized that life , like , like , there's a journey that you learn a lot , that you can learn a lot from Like , I was just so everybody knows people who don't know I took two years off to apply to med school .
Um , during those two years , man , I would kick myself every day Like , man , I should have been in med school the first time I applied and I was pissed , I was upset , had a chip on my shoulder and I just felt like I really should have been in med school and stuff . But you know , those two years off taught me a lot of things . It taught me resilience .
It really taught me , like , how to like strategize and look at applying at med school a bit differently and look at applying at med school a bit differently , and I think it also helped me to become a better student . It helped me to be really focused on what I really wanted .
So I think that part of the reason I was really successful in medical school was because I took those two years off and for me , I think , once I got into med school , I just wanted to finish as quickly as possible .
But wait , what happened in those two years that made you come to that conclusion ? Or did you come to that conclusion before you got into medical school ?
What conclusion ? Who are you thinking , barbara Walters ? What question are you talking about ?
Really Nene the conclusion that you know kind of what you were talking about with life and just looking at your you know journey .
Oh , because I know , because I , when I was applying to med school the first time , I was like , yeah , I just want to get into any med school , I don't care what grades I get . I just I know I'm just going to graduate and I'm probably going to struggle , but I'm going to make it through .
Like I already had this mindset that like I'm gonna get into med school and med school is going to be like this complete struggle and you know I'll probably finish last in my class but I'm still going to graduate . You know , it don't matter . Ooh .
Yeah , what ? Why ? Why did you think that ?
Uh , I don't know . I think because getting into med school was so hard , right .
Yeah , but you wouldn't have known that the first time , because you didn't not get in the first like or not , not , but you know ? You see what I'm saying . It was your first time applying , so how , like , how did you come to that conclusion that you would be last in your class ?
I don't know , I just had a feeling I was it was going to be a struggle . And you know , I just felt that once I got into school , med school was going to be a struggle . And I just felt that once I got into school med school it was going to be a struggle . And more than likely I probably I don't know . That's kind of in my mind .
Did you struggle in college ? No , I didn't struggle in college . I worked hard , I had to work hard , but I wouldn't per se say I got to keep it a buck .
I think a lot of times people be trying to like give themselves like false , like they'll make up false things , like false adversity and people be lying and stuff like I don't think I cruised through meth or through college , but I just kind of was like I wasn't struggling . And I think the issue for me is I lack direction .
You know , I really needed , I needed like mentorship . That that's what really have helped me . So those two years off man , like bro , like that was like a big issue for me because I was like man , this is like the first time I really hit like adversity Cause . Now , like I'm telling people yo , your boy's going to be a doctor .
He's going to go to med school and it's like , well , what you doing here , working at sports authority ? It's like yo , I'm trying to figure it out , you know .
Dunk in these rocks .
Dunk in these rocks biatch . You know what I'm saying . Yo try to get these protection plan on these Jordans . Come on , son , right , but it's the truth , because the more extended warranties you sell , you get commission off of them . Extended warranties , trust me , I know , trust me , I know . So those two years it helped me to really .
It's true , you laughed at it , but you know what I'm talking about , right ? Oh my God .
But I would definitely say the point of what I'm trying to say is maybe if I had taken like a gap year in med school to do something outside of just like trying to finish right , so you mean , while in med school , yeah yeah , so instead of doing four years doing take a leave of absence yeah , yeah , guys . we got our dual degrees , do and an MBA .
We did it in four years and I was super proud to do that , but we had to give up our summers , um , and then we had to do summer MBA at one summer . Am I creating adversity again ? Yeah Right , you're right , you're right , right , but we did have to take some classes while we were doing clinical work . Yeah Right , that's real .
But I think , looking back , I think I would if I had taken a gap year to do something medically related but kind of not really , like you're studying for step one or you are taking , you're doing clinical work so that you can get ready to apply Something that's just kind of medically related , where you're taking a year off , you get paid , or it's like an
internship , maybe in Washington DC or something like that , or wherever it may have been , some medical mission work , global health . I think that would have really helped my whole mindset , my maturity , how I handle certain situations .
I think that's probably one of the biggest mistakes that I wish I had done , because it's great to graduate , but also , at the same time , like you're only in med school once and it's for me and I'm sure you can you can attest to that Med school is fun as hell , yo Med school is fun as hell .
Yo , oh yeah , I do it . I do medical school way more times than I would do college . I wouldn't do college again .
Would you do med school if it meant you didn't meet me ?
No , oh , that's a good question , because I always ask good questions .
Everybody , everybody knows I ask good questions . You'd be like uh , so what day is it ?
what day is it ? Who's gonna win the championship ? Like , why are you asking me to ? Win the championship um , I don't know , because I mean you were a really big part of my med school experience , I know , and I was a big part of yours .
So like stop playing , but I have a feeling that I probably— Elon Musk , state all the ways in which you was a— .
Do not quote Elon Musk on this show .
There are parents in our school district right now who get emails from Elon Musk and it says hey , yo . What does it say ? Please justify your existence in this department , in this uh , what do you call it ? In this part of the government , I'm like yeah of the government . I'm like yo , so we're not .
It's five words at last Justify how you can say that you're part of my . What do you call it ? Getting my diploma in med school . That's what I'm saying . I'm trying to be like Elon Musk . Go ahead .
Anywho , I probably would have still enjoyed med school , because at the point at which you're in med school it's not like college , where you're taking these classes , especially as a science major . That's one thing I definitely would not have done . But you didn't ask about college .
But if I had to go all the way back to college , I definitely would not have been a science major Definitely not . I probably would have been a science major . Definitely not . I probably would have been a theater major . I probably would have been theater major . But yeah , I probably would have enjoyed med school even without you .
Well shoot , half of med school was with you and half of it was without you . As many times as we broke up , ooh , burn , just like the kids . Ooh , you just got roasted . I could say that all day long Ooh , you just got roasted . Ooh , no reverse .
They don't say that , they say that .
Yes , they do . Ooh , no , reverse Draw two . I'm like what ?
Yo , some of the mistakes that I made is I would do more questions , I would do more standardized questions . Oh , me too , yeah , when studying for not even just for like step one , step two , but for actual the quizzes that we had made by our professors , I would have done more .
I should have done more questions that were standardized , yeah , instead of kind of going back and kind of creating our questions and so forth . But what you did , though , that was peace . That was great . You helped me out there with making my own questions . There you go .
There you go , score one for Renee .
Yeah , yeah , yeah . But listen , guys , we're going to end the show right here , but I do want to end the question . I do want to end with two questions . One is if you're in attending right now , if you're in residency right now , what's the big mistake that you made in med school that you now regret as a resident or even as a clinician ?
That's one you guys know . You can text us . Renee's going to tell you how to do all that in a second .
We're actually going to tell you how to do all that in a second . We're actually going to put that in a . We're going to put that in a reel . We're going to put that in a reel and you guys comment on Instagram or TikTok .
And the next question I have is what I asked earlier Like for real , for real , like I want to know folks who are listening , like if you knew that there was a loan cap that is now significantly lower and that , well know , we're talking about 50 , maybe even like 60 of your education had to be by private loans or you kind of hat in hand to parents like yo
, to family like yo . I got you , like in 10 years , yo , this , this , this 20k , I'm telling you , yo , it's gonna be worth like 50 . So just put it in right now . I got you . I got you for it In 15 years .
We went from 10 to 15 . I'm not trusting , I don't know percentages .
I don't know compound interest , but would you have done it ? That's a good question , y'all yeah .
Anything else you want to leave us off with Dr Renee before we jet on out of here .
No , but you be potting for real , yo , you be potting for real . I'm going to act like . This is Robert's Rules . I'll allow it .
How do I be potting ? Have you ever done Robert's Rules ? Hell , no , ever . I'm going to act like it , though . Exactly , I'm going to pot it . Go ahead , exactly Now . I'm going to tell a story real quick . So one time , when he was regional director , he had to run a meeting . You can't just talk .
He was regional director , region two of the S&MA , and he was running a meeting and the meeting was getting really chaotic . He called me up . I wasn't even part of your board . You remember this . I was pre-med board member .
I told these naysayers to shut the fuck up yo . I told these naysayers to shut up yo .
No , you didn't call me , you called me up . I was in the meeting physically , we were physically meeting . You called me up to the front and basically had me kind of be your like parliamentarian , like what the hell . But you did it though , so I don't want to do it now , which means you can't do it now . All right , I'm the Robert .
We're going to catch you guys on the next episode of Docs Outside the Box , because Renee is creating this fake adversity like she got me through med school . But listen , make sure you answer those questions . And I paid your loans back too . Okay , stop playing Renee , but y'all we're going to catch you guys on the next episode of Docs Outside the Box .
We love y'all . Sorry for the delay and shout out to all the new subscribers we got on YouTube . We love y'all .
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Peace , y'all Peace .