¶ Kendrick vs Drake
I need to talk about this . Kendrick Drake beef oh the beef . You know what I'm saying . Where's the beef ? This is the best rap beef in history . For a long time people could say hip-hop is dead , particularly for us . We would all say that the golden age of rap was like that 88 to like 95 , 96 .
And then afterwards commercialism and kind of making the same type of thing over and over again .
Right , everybody's singing their raps . Singin singing their raps . You know who you are if you got nursery rhymes in your rap game .
Yo , what's good everyone . Welcome back to another episode of Docs Outside the Box . I am your host , Dr Nii Darko . I'm joined by the habitual line stepper , my beautiful , lovely wife , mother of my children , amazing OB-GYN this is going to be every time . Deliverer of children , Mother of civilization , when are you going with this ?
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The whole point of it being habitual is it's habitual . So that's why I'm saying it over and over again You'll habitually be line-stepping . Oh Lord , Alfred , cue habitual line-stepper please . You know he would step across the line Habitually . He's a habitual line-stepper .
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Chappelle .
The habitual line stepper , habitually .
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This episode today is going to be about self-care while working , but before we get into that , like let's chat it up a little bit .
Let's talk real quick about , like , some things that are going on in pop culture , because , like part of me , part of the reason why I think I delay with doing some episodes , is like damn , like I really don't want to talk about that without first talking about this .
Ok , and in this situation I need to talk about this Kendrick Drake oh the beef , you know the beef , and this is one of the best rap beefs in history .
This is the best rap beef in history , better than us and jay-z . Yes the takeover .
Yes the ether yes wow yes , text us at 833-230-2860 . Tell me who you got kendrick or drake or come on . If you haven't heard , if you are not even paying attention , if you're just one of those guys , who's or women who would , like you know , get off my lawn . I don't listen to kendrick or drake you crazy .
But if you are one of those people , you just want to tell us what's one of the best rap beefs of all time . Let us know 833-230-2860 .
And Roxanne Shante .
At the time it was .
It was the only rap beef . It was the first rap beef . Well , I don't know if it was the first .
But that's the reason why I think this is the best rap beef . I think for a long time people could say hip hop is dead or there hasn't been like a natural , like improvement in rap Right . Like improvement in rap right .
Like , particularly for us who we would all say that the golden age of rap was like that 88 to like 95 , 96 , right when tupac died , biggie died like that was the golden age of hip-hop , and then afterwards commercialism and just kind of making the same type of thing over and over again right everybody's singing , they raps .
It's not even just singing their raps . But it became you know who you are out there . We know what we're talking about right , you know who you are .
You know who you are if you got nursery rhymes in your rap game . The itsy bitsy spider went up the water spout , down came the rain and washed the spider out .
But I think if you talk about the natural transition of rap beefs , it coincides with how music has changed , how hip hop has changed in an appropriate manner . So when Roxanne Shante came out , that whole beef , that was the best thing at that time , right , right . Then you have like Kumo D , and who was it , kumo D ?
And I forget who did he have beef with Kumo D ?
and I forget . Who did he have beef with ?
Kumo D had beef with Not Big Daddy Kane , I want to say Rakim oh , rak oh . No , big Daddy Kane , I can't Either way . I got to look this up . You keep talking . Then after that , you had I mean , you had so many smaller beefs , but just was good , right , you had Ice Cube versus the whole NWA , nwa . I don't know what's going on with my brain .
My brain is going off like Jesus , Ice Cube versus the entire crew , Like wait what ? Then you had One man , yeah , common and Cube . He's like that man .
Yeah , Common and Cube .
Then you had Common and Cube and the beef , yeah , common and Cube Really .
Then you have LL Cool J and Cannabis , which was an amazing one , right , this is in . That's the mid 90s . That's the mid 90s . This is like 97 98 , okay , okay , maybe 99 and then obviously , I think the apex was Jay-Z and . Nas , but that's different than how it is now .
Right , like you have literally 20 something years later , better beats , better rapping , the stakes are higher and , in essence , like it puts rap and hip hop right in the center of music , which is where it's at right now . That wasn't the case in the late 90s . That wasn't the case when Jay-Z and Nas were .
Oh snap , no , it was LL versus Kumo D .
I think that was one of the beefs Kumo .
D and KRS-One .
LL has had several beefs kumo , kumo d and krs1 I think was the first one .
Oh , keras , keras . Well , actually keras1 declared war on , I think , almost everybody and he won he first came out and he won oh yeah , he was like all of the boroughs . I'm going to beat you because the bronx so anyway .
So who do you have winning ? Kendrick versus nas ? Who do you want ?
me , are we seriously taking a poll here ?
but this is potting right . Like you give your point and I get okay , you know what then ?
I then , since I'm the , if you're gonna stay , if , you're gonna stay .
If you're gonna stay silent , just say you're gonna stay silent .
No , if I'm the habitual line stepper , then I should probably say something that really is just going to blow people's minds and just start my own beef and just be like Drake won the beef . Okay , now text us what's that number again ?
833-230-2860 . I'll just leave it to you like this if you are , you can tell how much of a Stan Drake fans are . If you are going to type in or call in or whatever you're going to do , and say that Drake won this , because there's absolutely no way , there's no way that you can sit here with a straight face and say that Drake won this .
He got spanked so bad . And the reason why I think it's a really bad this is the best rap beef of all time is he is basically the biggest star in the world right now musical wise okay , who's bigger than him ?
tail swift probably yeah , but it's close though he's shaking it off but it's close though , right , like when we talk in jay-z and nas Nas , right , like they were the biggest rap stars . Drake is the biggest , the rap star , but he's also the biggest one , the biggest musician out there in top three and we're splitting hairs , right , and you know .
So like I just think that for someone like Kendrick , who's a recluse , who stays in the he minds his business . He minds his business , to come in and just mollywop him like that Oof man . But listen , for me it was amazing .
The tone that Kendrick can take , the change in tonality , the beats he's just on a different page . I was literally watching a Jerry Springer episode , with as much tea as was spilled between the two of those .
That didn't move me as much though , because you can't prove any of that stuff .
I'm not saying you can prove it , but I'm saying that to me is that's not necessarily what rap beats are all about . Unless you talk about Biggie and Tupac with that one line , we all know what it is Lined by Tupac the way he starts out .
Listen , don't bring the West Coast on that . You already talked about Cube . I don't want anything you already talked about .
Cube , I don't want anything . You already talked about Cube . No , but it's one thing to just be like like , have you know , say a line , you know , make it personal and then go on to do other things . Well , I guess Tupac really just laid into him , but that's what . I'm saying but most rap beats are not that personal .
It is Not that personal .
Well , yeah , it got to a level of personal that we've never seen before . I mean , it used to be everybody was a sucker mc , like that . Like that was the thing .
If you whoever said sucker mc the most won , you know but this is why I'm telling this is the best rap beef ever , because the amount , the amount of personal , investigative , like journalism that they had to do to get this information crazy and they both have a lot to lose .
So a lot of times when people are at the top of their game , they won't go at each other just because of that right . You saw that with jay cole . Jay cole's like yo , stage left , I ain't going through this , I'm not built for this . And he bowed out like reverse , reverse , right , reverse , reverse . He backed out of it .
But nas and and sorry , but kendrick and and drake were like no , we're gonna shove all of our stuff to in the middle and look whether or not any of that tea is real or not , we'll never know . It doesn't matter . But for me it doesn't matter , because for me it's all about how well you wrapped it , how well you made the beat . Is it catchy , is it ?
And the thing that's ? Ultimately , look at kendrick's , the , the , what's the one that's ? Uh , the one that's from the ? I forget the name of it . Um , I can't believe . I can't believe . I'm blanking on .
Are you blanking ? I was just listening to it tonight not like us .
That's the number one record in the world yeah , but or I think , in the united states question we need a fat checker yo .
Question Is this a publicity stunt ? I don't know I don't care , no , but is it ?
I don't know , I don't know , like all of this stuff , all of that stuff , it could be very much a publicity .
I mean , I think definitely . Well , a lot of it is publicity because you got to get the people going right In order . But why ?
Why does Drake got to get the people going right in order , but why ? Why does drake have to get the people going ? He's at the top of his game . Everybody knows him to be the best , so why does he have to ? Why does he have to go after kendrick ?
he doesn't have to so , but that's why I'm saying is this a publicity stunt ?
but I'm asking I that's why I don't really think so , because I think Drake .
Why would someone I can see Drake being very arrogant If you're at the top of your game and you're , essentially , you know , selling out , you know all kinds of places and you , whatever , you're making so much more money , then why even like , why even do this ?
Why do what ?
Like why go after Kendrick ? For what ? What was like ? What's the reason ?
He did not go after Kendrick . Why go after Kendrick ? For what ? What was ?
the reason he did not go after .
Kendrick .
Well , Kendrick came after him first .
Correct .
Right , so then why even respond ?
Because Drake has smashed everybody . So he's like , well , I'm going to smash you , okay ? So arrogance . So it's like I mean , I guess , no , no , no no , no , let me just finish the point , mm , let me just finish the point . When someone is just as good as so , it's different when you are punching down , right .
That's what he's done for the most part , except for Pusha T , right , but Pusha T is a better rapper than Drake . But Drake has always had better writers and has better production . The ability for him to come back with multiple responses is unlike anybody else , his entourage is actually working .
They're not just on stage dancing but , as we've learned in this , as we learn in this beef , like there's just so many different things from a cultural standpoint that , like it even goes outside of this podcast , that , like drake doesn't have , that kendrick has .
Clearly , kendrick is considered a better rapper , but there's cultural currency that he has that he literally spent and that Drake could not even . He couldn't cash it Right and he got called to the carpet on it and then to put out an album , a line step and then 52 minutes later , another album comes out that's better than yours .
¶ Musings on Hip Hop and Self-Care
That's when Drake , I think . That's when Drake was like I gotta stop . And he pulled out and he said look , summer Vibes , and he's going to come out with an album pretty soon Because he's like this is he lost ? So I thought it was the best . Well , he's probably running out of money , two of them at the top of the game .
Got to pay all these people to write all these rhymes .
The lyrical repertoire is you guys saw it . If anybody who's a true hip hop fan or someone who's very intrigued with hip hop and wants to understand , like , what true lyricism is , go listen to that Kendrick Multiple of his .
It's just amazing he can , the way how he can go from angry to just nonchalant , then back to angry , to just cool , to joking around , anyway , but that's not what this show is about , guys . But that was on my mind . That was on my mind .
it's just like dag man so , yes , so kendrick won the beef .
kendrick won the beef and , um , yeah , I was listening to it on the way back from my night shift . So when I finished night shift , I'm driving back four and a half hours to get back to you . I'm listening to that going hovee ho , like it's . It's um , it's good self-care by work while working . This is a big deal . This is huge for you .
This is huge for me . This is a lot of yeah , yeah . Self-care is something that you got to think about on a daily basis . You got to make moves , you got to practice this stuff every day , otherwise , you know the joke's on you .