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A Doctor Performing Surgery While On Cocaine.#453 Part 3

Mar 25, 202510 minEp. 453
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We analyze public reaction to news of a urologist testing positive for cocaine while performing surgeries. The social media comments revealed a plot twist with most of the public claiming that substance abuse is commonplace among medical professionals. 


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Why Refuse Treatment But Still Come?

Speaker 1

I guess my question is exactly what Jackademic asked is why are you here ? You know , like I'm not mad that you want to do things a different way , but what is very curious is why are you here fighting with me when you don't have to Like you know you don't have

Trust Issues Within Healthcare

to be here .

Speaker 2

Not only is there issues among patients questioning us , there's even issues among our own colleagues , where you have your own colleagues who are questioning vaccines .

Speaker 1

And that we do have .

Speaker 2

It's a major problem because I've seen that . I've seen that if you have one person on and they believe certain things that are specifically related to like anti-vax or anti-establishment type things you bring that up to a patient , that person goes off service . You come on and you talk about tried and true practices , standards of care and all these different things .

Now , all of a sudden they don't trust you . That scares me more than a patient coming in and just refusing

Surgeon Caught Using Cocaine

to get care .

Speaker 1

Actually , we've got some news about a Houston doctor being suspended after he allegedly was found to test positive for cocaine while he was performing surgery . Yeah , where'd it say ?

Speaker 2

you . Yeah , so this doctor I don't want to say his name , I don't think he needs to have his name out there , but it's already out there but his doctor , basically urologist performing surgery while on cocaine , and it's crazy , it's all over the news . I have a lot of different thoughts on this from , obviously , the first thing is patient safety Also , too .

You know how we treat surgeons or how we treat doctors in general who have substance abuse . Substance abuse issues also Right and um . For me , I'll always land on the side of you got to make sure that things are safe for your colleagues and you also make sure that things are safe for the patients .

Um , this crazy , but basically showing , if I explain the story to me first , because I think you showed the story to me first . So what happened ?

Speaker 1

I think he was just I'm not sure exactly how he was found to be positive , but it seems as though he was on a program within the hospital that was essentially testing him potentially randomly , I guess .

That was essentially testing him potentially randomly , I guess , and he was found to test positive allegedly while performing surgery , and so he obviously has a history . So this is not the first time that he's tested positive for some sort of substance , some sort of illegal substance , but that's how the story goes .

Speaker 2

Yeah . So for the folks who are listening , if you're younger , if you're a pre-med medical student , resident , just know that the state , every state , has like a board of medicine and they have a provision or they have resources to help physicians and health care professionals who are obviously going through substance abuse issues . So they can one get . Well

Public Reaction to Medical Misconduct

, one is make sure that they can no longer hurt or possibly hurt any patients , right , so they take them off , right , they can't practice anymore for a certain period of time .

Then the case gets reviewed and then they , you know , they go through therapy , they go through rehab and , depending on what the egregious nature is , you know , if they're able to show that they're going through rehab and they're progressing through it , there's a possibility that they may be able to enter back into medical practice .

But it's usually heavily governed , right , like you have to check in with somebody every so often , or you have to submit to this amount of tests every so often , or , in essence , you're kind of like on probation for a certain period of time and then you know you're able to go back on your own .

It's a tough subject , yo yeah , tough this is really tough man well , I'm glad they were able to get him off and , and you know so , he can't possibly hurt anybody Undefinitely . That's the most important thing .

Speaker 1

So the reason that I brought this to your attention , to the team's attention , wasn't so much because he , you know , allegedly tested positive for cocaine . That obviously is important allegedly tested positive for cocaine that obviously is important . But what I found extremely interesting were the comments that people had . Yeah , so on Instagram , right ?

So one comment was that Coke probably had him doing the best surgeries . Another comment was well , a lot of doctors and nurses are on drugs . It's called functional addicts . I'm like is this what people really think is going on ?

Someone else said he did my surgery and did an amazing job and I did some more power to the snowflake he doing what he got to do to stay up . Someone else said I bet he was super focused . I'm like , what is going on in these comments ? He probably the best doctor in the hospital . That's another comment .

Speaker 2

Drug use is pretty accepted . I guess Were the surgeries successful .

Speaker 1

You know I'm like what . Now I know that some of this is like jokes and jest . I know some of this . You would be surprised . I know some of this is jokes and jest . My problem was I couldn't figure out which ones were jokes and which ones were not .

Speaker 2

Good luck on the comics . You're not going to figure it out , I know , because the social media is not for context . Oh my , oh , my god . You're not gonna get anything more than it's just in the ether , that's it .

Speaker 1

you ain't gonna get anything more than I mean , you know , someone wrote this is not news . Someone wrote they do this . A lot of them , not all , do this . They have to either be tipsy or under some kind of chemical dependency . Pilots as well . A lot of the a of them fly loaded , but we can't drink and drive .

Speaker 2

I mean for my .

Speaker 1

Listen .

Speaker 2

What Substance abuse , whatever type of dependency you may have , is a lot more prevalent than we want to admit , and it's made its way into various professions , even some of the more sacred professions that you just would not want that to occur .

So do I believe that there possibly could be pilots , of course , people who drive buses , of course , you know obviously even physicians , of course , who are under the influence Absolutely . If there's a program to handle that , there's a reason why there's a program to handle that . You know we got an abuse problem here , or substance abuse problem here .

It's not just in the United States .

Speaker 1

No , but yeah , that's the issue . I mean , come on now , like a lot here , a lot of doctors do coke A lot , not some A lot .

Speaker 2

We should get the percentages of that .

Speaker 1

I know we do need to get the percentages . What is a lot ? What does that mean ? Somebody didn't get their supply because he ain't been doing it .

Speaker 2

Someone wrote we need to see his history before we judge . Lol , I mean the man on call all the time Judge Law . I mean the man on call all the time .

Speaker 1

I'm like but did he die ? Oh my Lord , a lot more common than y'all think . Okay , but I just I thought that the comments were Wow .

Speaker 2

You know , you probably thought they were going to be super like con like super against the surgeon . I seem to be very pro like let them live . Type comments Right Like yeah , like you know .

Speaker 1

So what ? Like we see this all the time , or you know , yeah , of course it happens . It's like this all the time , you know . My question comes now that we talked about our previous discussion , right , our previous question about well , why won't people , you know , come into the hospital ?

Why would people come into the hospital if they don't want us to take care of them ? And I'm like , on the other hand , we have , yeah , but y'all are high on drugs anyway . So I'm like , well , what are we doing

Medicine's Public Image Crisis

here ? I don't understand .

Speaker 2

Well , we got a major publicity problem going on , right now yeah , medicine has a major publicity problem going on right now , as with most other things , right , people don't trust institutions , and medicine is one of them . There's plenty of reasons why . You know , I could see people who are not in health care , people who are not in medicine , you know .

Just don't trust health care , right ? Yeah , if you grew up in a certain time in the 20s and 30s or in the 40s and 50s , and if you probably are African-American , you're like man , fuck the health care system . Specifically , I'm talking about the Tuskegee , you know , syphilis experiment , among a whole bunch of other different things , right , you know ?

Speaker 1

so it's just OK , well , I got your percentage right here , because someone said half half . So between you and me , one of us , half the medical industry is on it . Why is this even news ? Let's talk about big pharma instead , okay .

Speaker 2

But that's just a comment . I understand that Half of medical professionals are not on the statistics I know that . I know that . No , but I'm just saying that for clarity's sake , because I don't want nobody trying to see it .

Speaker 1

No , no , no , no no . I'm just saying that somebody in the comments decided that they were going to put a percentage .

Speaker 2

We got to make sure we put out some good information also . Yeah , well , All right well .

Speaker 1

It's just very interesting considering the conversation that we just had .

Speaker 2

Hopefully no patient was injured during this time and stuff .

Speaker 1

I really hope not .

Speaker 2

Just make sure that that surgeon , that doctor , gets the help that he needs . Yes please , everybody , remember . You can always reach out to us so many different ways . You can send us a text , go to the show notes . There's multiple ways in which you can get in touch with us and listen .

If you guys are interested in the Spartan race , also check out our Instagram

Episode Closing and Contact Information

profile . You'll see some pictures and videos in there about what I did this past weekend .

Speaker 1

Anything else you want to ?

Speaker 2

say , dr Renee , why y'all come to the hospital if you don't want no way to treat you ? And on that note y'all . We'll catch you guys on another episode of Watch how I Say Friday , y'all Peace .

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