Most Christian women were never given permission to fully become themselves. Not as girls, not as wives, and not inside their churches. So when the marriage ends and the roles fall away, they're left with a terrifying blank page and a question they don't know how to answer: Who am I? In this episode of the Divorced Christian Woman Podcast, we get real about a psychological process called individuation and why so many divorced Christian women are doing it for the very first time in midlife. We’ll...
Apr 21, 2026•47 min•Ep. 35
What if everything you've been told about financial devastation after divorce is wrong? This season finale brings you something different: real stories from real divorced Christian women who rebuilt their financial lives from the ground up. Grace shares how she went from budget deficit to financial peace while taking it one small step at a time. Jenny reveals how she built a six-figure business starting with just an iPad in her bedroom after 36 years as a stay-at-home mom. Kimberly talks about m...
Apr 10, 2026•57 min•Season 3Ep. 10
What if everything you've been told about retirement is wrong—especially after divorce? In this episode, Natalie and Diana explore why the traditional retirement model might actually be keeping you stuck in fear and financial anxiety. You'll discover how retirement is just a cultural construct from 1889 that may not serve your post-divorce life at all—and what to do instead. 🔑 Key Takeaways: Why divorced women might actually have a strategic advantage when it comes to financial freedom (this wi...
Apr 03, 2026•51 min•Season 3Ep. 9
In Season 3, Episode 8 of the Divorced Christian Woman Podcast, Natalie and Diana sit down with Diane Wallenta, a certified divorce lending specialist with 25 years in the mortgage industry. If you're confused about whether you can afford to buy, whether you're "too old" to get a mortgage, or whether you should just keep renting, this conversation is for you. You'll learn the truth about age limits, what lenders actually look at when you're divorced, how to rebuild your credit after divorce, and...
Mar 27, 2026•49 min•Season 3Ep. 8
Today we’re going to explore something you probably never expected to find after divorce: abundance. Not the kind with a big bank account. The kind that fills your soul. You'll hear about the shift that happens when you stop waiting for heaven and start creating it now. There's a perspective change that transforms your ex from villain to... something surprising. And you'll discover why one woman says she makes poverty look good and absolutely means it as a compliment. 🔑 Key Takeaways: The diffe...
Mar 20, 2026•56 min•Season 3Ep. 7
Let’s talk about everyone’s favorite topic: death and disaster! Kidding. Kind of. In this episode, I sat down with Leah Hadley (who has so many professional credits after her name, that I’ll just let you scroll down to see all of them. Trust me. She’s qualified.) to tackle the post-divorce brain bender that is estate planning and insurance . If you’ve ever wanted to scream into the void because you don’t know what kind of health insurance to get or who should get your vintage Corelle dishes when...
Mar 13, 2026•1 hr 2 min•Season 3Ep. 6
So, you want to start a business? In this episode, Diana and I share our not-so-glamorous but totally doable journeys of starting businesses from the ground up. We’ll help you get clear on whether building a business is even for you, how to start small, test your ideas and how to make peace with imperfection. You’ll walk away with tangible steps and permission to start messy. Key Takeaways: You don’t need permission to start a business. Fear and perfectionism are lying liars. Approval-based thin...
Mar 06, 2026•1 hr•Season 3Ep. 5
This week we’re going to tackle one of the most pressing questions divorced women face: What if you're rebuilding from nothing? What if you had to take on debt just to leave? And what if the shame around your financial situation feels heavier than the actual numbers? There's a two-word phrase that changes everything when it comes to managing your money. You'll discover unconventional ways women have eliminated major expenses while still living full lives. And you'll hear why one of the biggest l...
Feb 27, 2026•47 min•Season 3Ep. 4
In this episode of The Divorced Christian Woman Podcast, I’m joined by Diana Swillinger and accredited financial counselor and tax genius Dee Carter. Whether you’re DIY-ing your taxes or outsourcing to someone, this one’s for you. Read the full show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here Related Resources: Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This FREE 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult...
Feb 20, 2026•48 min•Season 3Ep. 3
"I'm not selling my house right now, so it doesn't matter what it's worth today." That one sentence changed everything about how I look at my INVESTMENT accounts. And if watching your investments go up and down makes you want to hide under the covers, you need to hear this analogy. Today we’re talking about investing after divorce by breaking down the three buckets every divorced woman needs to understand, what to do with settlement money sitting in your bank account, and when you actually need ...
Feb 13, 2026•1 hr 5 min•Season 3Ep. 2
Welcome to Season 3 of the Divorced Christian Woman Podcast! This season we’re getting all up in your business (literally): the money business. And we’re kicking things off by asking: What’s your money mindset looking like after divorce? Is it cool, calm, and collected, or hiding in a closet stress-eating Oreos and ignoring the bill collectors? I invited my friend and fellow coach Diana Swillinger to help us unpack the tangled web of beliefs we’ve inherited about money, and how to burn those unh...
Feb 06, 2026•54 min•Season 3Ep. 1
So, you got divorced and your social life went up in flames. Welcome to the club, friend. Pull up a chair. In this season finale, I sit down with my friend Diana Swillinger (host of The Renew Your Mind Podcast) to talk about something every divorced woman eventually faces: the weird, wonderful, terrifying world of making new friends when you're a whole new person. We talk about the great scattering (as Mel Robbins calls it), how to let go of draining friendships without guilt, and why being reje...
Dec 19, 2025•1 hr•Season 2Ep. 12
What if the most important relationship you’ll ever have isn't the one with your ex, your pastor, or even your cat, but the one with yourself? (I know, scandalous.) In this episode, I’m joined by three divorced Christian women, Barb, Diana, and Lisa , to unpack what it really looks like to reconnect with yourself after decades of religious programming and marital trauma. We Talk About: Rebuilding your identity after your inner toddler’s been gagged and duct-taped by shame for too long Why self-l...
Dec 12, 2025•1 hr•Season 2Ep. 11
You've survived the marriage from Hades, signed the divorce papers, and maybe even had your ceremonial "burn the wedding dress" moment. Your kids are grown, they have opinions (lots of them), and some of those opinions are... not in your favor. If you're wondering how to rebuild, repair, or even just exist in relationship with your adult children post-divorce without losing your mind (or your will to live), this episode is your safe space. I sit down with my friend and fellow coach, Diana Swilli...
Dec 05, 2025•56 min•Season 2Ep. 10
Why do your kids act like little angels at their dad’s house and then transform into rabid raccoons the moment they step foot into your kitchen? No, it’s not because you’re failing as a mom (although that voice in your head might say otherwise). It’s because YOU are the safe one. In this episode, we unpack all of it: the chaos, the trauma, the meltdowns, and the sacred role you play in raising kids who actually make it out of this mess OK . I sat down with Diana, Loretta, and Charlotte, three di...
Nov 28, 2025•55 min•Season 2Ep. 9
Ever wondered what happens to your church relationships when your marriage falls apart and you do the unthinkable (aka, choose not to be miserable for the rest of your life)? In this episode, I sat down with Diana, Stacey, and Marie, to talk about the real fallout that happens not just in marriage, but in the holy halls of church after divorce. What We Talked About: How divorce changes everything about how you experience church What happens when you realize your church was more in love with patr...
Nov 21, 2025•55 min•Season 2Ep. 8
So you got divorced, and now you’re the scandal of the century in your tiny town (or tight church circle). You’re dodging judgmental glances in the grocery store and wondering if your prayer request just got broadcasted as Christian-sanctified gossip. Sound familiar? In this episode, I team up with my friend and fellow coach, Diana Swillinger , to talk about how to take your power back when your life becomes the talk of the neighborhood. If you're tired of feeling like your healing is public pro...
Nov 14, 2025•46 min•Season 2Ep. 7
Have you ever been talked over in a meeting, assigned work with no warning, or gotten that oh-so-lovely “Can you just help with this one little thing?” at 4:59 p.m.? In this episode, I’m joined by Stacey, Diana, Marie, and Grace, all divorced Christian women who are navigating life post-divorce in the workplace. We’re diving deep into how to show up for yourself professionally without selling your soul or compromising your values. What We Talked About: How divorce made us braver and more asserti...
Nov 07, 2025•1 hr 2 min•Season 2Ep. 6
What if your deepest shame wasn’t actually yours to carry? If you’ve ever felt the cold shoulder from your Christian family after your divorce, or you’re still untangling the sticky spiderwebs of shame and silence from your upbringing, pull up a chair. This episode is for you . I sat down with friend and fellow coach, Diana Swillinger, and together we unpacked how family of origin dynamics continue to haunt, shape, and sometimes straight-up sabotage your healing after divorce. Here’s what we dis...
Oct 31, 2025•1 hr 3 min•Season 2Ep. 5
What if everything you believed about God was actually holding you hostage? In this episode, I sat down with my friends and fellow coaches Diana Swillinger, Stacey Wynn, and Marie Griffith to get real about what it looks like to rebuild your relationship with God after the spiritual ground beneath your feet crumbles. We’re talking about spiritual deconstruction, not as a slippery slope into heresy ( it’s actually a slip ‘n slide into FREEDOM), but as a necessary and sacred process of untangling ...
Oct 24, 2025•51 min•Season 2Ep. 4
Is being "nice" to your ex keeping you stuck in his orbit? In this episode, my friend and fellow coach Diana Swillinger and I peel back the layers on everything related to your ex. We tackle the sticky, icky, post-divorce drama: how to set boundaries, why you don't owe him or his people anything, and how to stay in your lane. If you've ever wondered: Am I being mean for not giving a crap about his new wife? Is it bad to limit contact with his family? Should I let my kids like the girlfriend? (Um...
Oct 17, 2025•55 min•Season 2Ep. 3
Let’s be honest. If you've escaped from a destructive marriage, the idea of dating again might feel less like butterflies and more like plunging into shark-infested waters wearing a meat dress . But what if dating didn’t have to feel like impending doom? What if you could approach it with courage, confidence, and an actual strategy? In this episode, I invited three of my friends and fellow coaches, Stacey Wynn , Diana Swillinger , and Marie Griffith to join me for a frank discussion about dating...
Oct 10, 2025•1 hr 2 min•Season 2Ep. 2
What if the person you're turning to for healing is actually keeping you stuck? (Cue dramatic music and flashbacks to church lady "counseling" that made you question your entire existence.) Welcome to Season 2 of the Divorced Christian Woman Podcast! I’m kicking things off with my friend and fellow coach, Diana Swillinger. We’re diving headfirst into the sometimes-healing, sometimes-horrifying world of mentors, coaches, and therapists. Not all helpers are created equal, my friend. And no, your c...
Oct 03, 2025•57 min•Season 2Ep. 1
Welcome to the final episode of Season One of The Divorced Christian Woman Podcast! If you’ve made it through the first 365 days post-divorce without stabbing anyone (including yourself), congratulations. You’re our people. In our finale I gather a roundtable of warrior women (Diana, Loretta, Lisa, and Marie) to talk about what comes after the ashes. (And it's NOT all sobbing into Häagen-Dazs while reading Leviticus. Haha) What we talk about: Finding yourself again (and realizing she’s kind of a...
Aug 22, 2025•52 min•Season 1Ep. 12
What if the emotions you're trying to keep at arm’s length (like grief and rage) are actually the very things that will set you free? In this episode, I’m joined by my friend and fellow coach, Diana Swillinger. Today we’re talking about the emotional whirlwind that follows a divorce, especially for Christian women who were taught to be nice, stay quiet, and for the love of God, never get angry. Well. We got angry. (And we’re still alive!) If you’ve ever wondered: “Am I losing it, or is this rage...
Aug 15, 2025•1 hr 9 min•Season 1Ep. 11
This isn’t your grandma’s church talk on “biblical womanhood.” In this episode, I sit down with four divorced Christian women—Diana, Loretta, Lisa, and Marie—to unpack the sticky, often squirmy conversation around sex, dating, purity culture, and what it all means now that we’ve ditched the toxic marriage and are figuring out what we actually want. Heads up: this is not a how-to guide for your post-divorce sex life. We’re not handing out purity rings or condoms. This is an open, judgment-free, t...
Aug 08, 2025•1 hr 1 min•Season 1Ep. 10
Have you ever felt like your faith packed a suitcase, jumped off a cliff, and left you blinking in the rubble of what used to be your spiritual life? In this episode, I’m joined by my good friend and fellow coach Diana Swillinger to talk about what it’s like when everything you thought you believed about God, church, and even yourself suddenly stops making sense. We’re not sugarcoating it, friend. We're talking spiritual betrayal, religious trauma, excommunication (oh yes, I went there), and wha...
Aug 01, 2025•53 min•Season 1Ep. 9
In this episode, I sit down with Diana, Marie, Michele, Grace, and Rochelle—five divorced Christian women—to dish on how the first 365 days post-divorce can feel like navigating an emotional minefield with a blindfold on and flip-flops. We're talking the first holidays that smacked us sideways, the unexpected emotional triggers, practical, real-life survival tips to make it through without self-combusting, and why “just be grateful” is not the ministry you need right now. Key Takeaways: Grief is...
Jul 25, 2025•51 min•Season 1Ep. 8
This episode is the pep talk every divorced Christian woman didn’t know she needed. I sat down with five divorced Christian women—Diana, Marie, Michele, Grace, and Rochelle—to talk about what it really looks like to take your life back after divorce. We’re talking loud smoothies, solo vacations, buying swimsuits without crying, and daring to want things . I know. Scandalous. Key Takeaways: Taking up space is sacred. Whether it’s dancing, resting, or saying “no,” your presence matters. Your voice...
Jul 18, 2025•55 min•Season 1Ep. 7
Welcome back, my fellow escape artists of dysfunction! In this episode, I sat back down with a power panel of divorced Christian moms—Diana, Loretta, Wendy, Jillian, and Lisa—to get real about what parenting looks like after you walk away from Crazytown, USA. Spoiler: The kids do survive. Many even thrive. But getting there is a wild ride filled with therapy bills, awkward holidays, and the occasional trip to "Maury Povich Show" levels of drama. Top Takeaways: You’re Not Ruining Your Kids: Not t...
Jul 11, 2025•49 min•Season 1Ep. 6