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Bonus Episode: JFK, Watergate, and More From Seattle

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This week in the After Party, Jake shares his thoughts on the recent release of formerly classified JFK files and how they relate to Watergate and this week's episode on Bob Dylan.


Next week, we're bringing you a story on Billy Idol, and we want to know: who is the most debaucherous rock star ever? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod.


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Speaker 1

Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode or Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking

about this week's full episode subject, Bob Dylan. We also get into Oliver Stone and Val Kilmer's Jim Morrison for a wee bit, as well as a bit of a deeper dive into our Hollywood Land spinoff series. And we get into your voicemails, text DMS emails and as always, a whole lot of rose. All right, this goes, Let's get into it, all right. This week's after Party is

gonna be a little bit different. We had a massive news day yesterday, which, as I write this, when I say yesterday, I mean Tuesday, a ton of music news and a ton of news news. And I know a lot of you watched the Congressional hearing with Oliver Stone and Jefferson Morley on the JFK Files. And I know a lot of you are catching up and having yet finished this week's full episode of Disgraceland, our part two episode on Bob Dylan, which directly relates to those JFK

hearings on Capitol Hill this week. So if any of you have not heard Part two, have not yet heard Bob Dylan Part two, not part one, Part two of our Bob Dylan story, I'm going to give you this moment here to fast forward this year After Party Bonus episode about ten minutes or so. Go past the first ad break and just start listening from that point on, or past the first musical interlude if you're ad free, because there will be spoilers, and I'm going to get

into spoilers right now. Okay, the spoilers are coming in the next few seconds. So again, if you haven't yet heard Part two of the Bob Dylan episode, now is

your chance to fast forward past the spoilers. Okay, So for the rest of you who heard this episode, thank you for taking this ride with us, Thanks for the texts, thanks for the voicemails, Thanks for the comments on social if you commented and then didn't see your comment or saw your comment get deleted, I deleted them because I'm trying to preserve the gag here for the rest of

the listeners. We haven't done one of these types of episodes in five years, Okay, twenty twenty was the last one, and I got you good that time, and I got you in twenty nineteen as well, But I needed to take a couple of years off because I needed to lull you guys into an unsuspecting content trance before I could come back at you with an episode like this Part two, Bob Dylan episode. Okay, on this episode, it's different than the last two that we did, the one

with Jim and the one with John. This one had far less historical fiction, like almost none, and way more historical fact, which is the main ingredient really when trying to make these episodes work. And this Dylan episode, Part two, like I said at the end of it, nearly everything is true. Nearly all of those outrageous facts are true. Bob Dylan did indeed say that crazy shit about Lee Harvey Oswald, basically supporting who was thought to be JFK's killer.

Two weeks after JFK was murdered. Dylan gave the impression he indeed gave the impression that he was for the Vietnam War in an interview with Singout magazine in the I believe that was the late sixties, early seventies, and Dylan did beat the piss out of that reporter. As depicted in our episode, Dylan did stay at the Watergate Hotel. Dylan's FBI file, or a page from his file anyway, was read verbatim in my episode. That's from the actual Dylan FBI file, and that was the first file I read.

The other two that I read in the episode, I made those up for the purposes of the story. Dylan wrote that note to the I ins for John and Yoko. That's true. You can look up the note the fifty five Families bit that was true as well. Again, look at the book The Political World of Bob Dylan for that story with the mysterious illuminati like aristocrat from the fifty five Families who ended up playing Bob and Bill Graham.

Even the bit about me working for Carl Bernstein and how my boss chose to use me to thwart Carl's stupidity, all true, all true. Okay, what wasn't true? Now that's a little bit different, not as much, not as much on the not true vine. But Andy, the answer was an invention. I made that up to help set up the part where Bob unknowingly becomes the ruse that Andy exploits to get into Becca's office. Becca was made up

as well. Aside from that, there's not much that I made up, And that's the beauty of these these satirical episodes. And again there's only been three in the entire history of Disgraceland. But as for some historical fiction here, okay, I can't say if the following two supposed conspiracy theories are true or not, but they haven't been proven false. They haven't proven true either one way or another. They haven't been proven. But the Watergate prostitution ring is a

real theory. It was a real conspiracy pedaled by G. Gordon Liddie, and it was litigated in court in the early nineteen eighties, I believe, and as far as I can tell, there's no actual evidence that supports the idea that there was in fact a prostitution ring run out of the Watergate Hotel in the early nineteen seventies, so

on that one false. Now the second so called conspiracy theory, the idea that Richard Nixon did not orchestrate Watergate, but was instead set up by the CIA to make it look like he orchestrated Watergate, or rather set up by the CIA two orchestrate Watergate so that the CIA would

then have a way to peacefully dispose of him. When I first heard this theory a year ago, I gave it no credence up But now, seriously, after all the dirty shit detailed in the JFK files about the CIA, and about all the lies they've been caught in in the last few weeks, and all the ways in which CIA members perjured themselves relative to their testimony on the JFK assassination, I'd say that I'm fifty to fifty on this Nixon thing and whether or not he was set

up by the CIA. On this theory, I mean, there's tape, for God's sakes, I played you the tape in the episode that's real. Now, whether or not the theory's real, I'm not saying one way or another. All I'm saying is that it's not entirely unlikely given all we know, but it all goes back to Watergate, the place, not the scandal. It was that information about Bob Dylan staying at the Watergate hotel that got me thinking about this entire idea that in the fifty five Families saying that

I read in that book about Bob's politics. The larger point I was trying to make in this episode, and a point that I think Bob Dylan would support, is that politics are evil and the media is just as

corrupt as our government. In that first FBI memo on Bob Dylan that I read to you in the episode, the Special Agent in Charge, and again this is a real memo, the Special Agent in Charge recommends that the Bureau call upon its contacts and media to get the word out on Dylan, to basically frame Bob Dylan as anti American. We've talked about Operation Mockingbird here before. That's the CIA's effort to co opt and control over six hundred journalists at major news outlets in the nineteen sixties

and seventies. Nothing has changed. Nothing. Just this morning, okay, I'm putting this episode together on Wednesday, April second, just this morning, in the wake of Tuesday April first, JFK Files Congressional hearing, the congressional hearing of the JFK assassination that was held on Capitol Hill just this morning. CBS and ABC News are not only miscategorizing Jefferson Morley's testimony on Capitol Hill relative to the JFK Files, they're outright

lying about his past. And he's calling for an immediate retraction, as he should be, and I hope he even sues them. Now, why would CBS and ABC in the year twenty twenty five move so quickly to discredit a man who has done more fact based research on the JFK assassination, Jefferson Morley than any other living journalists, A man who has never once uttered a word of conspiracy, A man who, if you follow him, it's obvious that his statements, his writing,

his opinions are entirely fact based. What incentive would CBS or ABC have in discrediting this man. Well, I'll tell you what that incentive is. It's because he came out yesterday in public, on record on Capitol Hill, at the risk of perjuring himself, and said what we have all known to be true for decades that the evidence in no way supports the so called fact that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. The CIA cannot have this out there because the truth is very dark. If Oswald didn't do it,

who did? Okay? I have thoughts on that, and I think these files are going to bear them out. We're going to talk about that more in the coming weeks here and there. Not going to make a big deal out of it. It's going to take a while for all this to get pieced together. But again, why would ABC and CBS come out so quickly to try to discredit this man. It's because the media still does the bidding of their handlers in the CIA and in the FBI.

Nothing has changed, nothing, all right? Anyway, I hope you dug this episode, and I hope you're not to pissed at me for taking you on this hour plus ride. This is the longest episode of Disgrace, and I believe that we've ever done. Matt Boden is still pissed off at me for making him mix it, though I don't blame him. It was long, but Matt killed it because the sound design came up great. Anyway, Matt, no more

hour long episodes, I promise all right. Coming up on Friday, we are revisiting another giant from music history, the hardest working man in show business, James Brown, Ladies and Gentlemen, James Brown, in our rewind slot on Friday. That's tomorrow. I've got a James Brown Part two that I'm thinking about based on this theory that he was murdered. Haven't done a lot of research on it, but just top line, it's pretty interesting and there's there's a lot there, but

that's not for a while, if at all. Then next week on Tuesday, we have a new episode on Billy Idle and Holy Debauchery Batman. This one's going to leave a mark when you're listening to this episode and wading through all the sex, drugs and rock and roll, be thinking about Billy Idle and his debauchery and thinking about which rock star was the most debaucherous. Was it Billy Idle, as we're going to explain, or was it someone else?

Which artist stories of excess are so bad, so gross, so over the top that they deserve the crown over Billy Idle. That's going to be the question of the week next week six one seven nine oh six six six three eight leave me a voicemail or a text. I'm going to be back in a flash with your voicemails and texts and dms on this week's question of

the week. All Right, we are back, And just a quick reminder to make sure you Apple podcast listeners have auto downloads turned on so you're not missing any episodes. All right, six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. You know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. If you want to send me a voicemail or a text. I like that. I like that

hanging on a telephone bit. Anyway, I'm going to leave the Dylan voicemails and the Dylan text to next week. Is there a bunch of you who still haven't heard this episode? And I'd like to have a complete conversation, a complete discussion, if you will, on this story with as many of you as possible. But have no fear because a ton of you hit me up to continue our conversation from last week on Grunge, on Seattle, on Alice, and chains, et cetera. Let's hear from the seven to four to oh hey.

Speaker 2

Jake, just listen to your grunge top ten. Really glad to hear bad motor Finger at number one.

Speaker 3

Oh, I should have should have.

Speaker 2

Mentioned I'm great than in the seven to four to Oh. I'm also pretty pumped to hear you talking about Dinosaur Junior, Lemonheads, Pixies definitely three of my favorite bands ever, and I agree none of them should really fall into grunge. Maybe early Lemonheads, Dinosaur Junior, Yeah, that was just too early. I mean, if we're talking about late eighties, early nineties of the starter grunge, they're just a little early for that. Also, don't mind having a couple Nirvanas and a couple down

Gardens in that top ten singles. Like you said, just absolutely killer album, even the bad Let's up and cover but phenomenal, Smashy Pumpkins Song on the Air, drown Birth, Ritual Town Garden amazing. Probably got a lot more to say, but I'll leave it at that. Man, love the episode, Grayson.

Speaker 1

We have very similar tastes and appreciate, Uh, I appreciate the backup on my Lemonhead's Dinosaur in Pixie's Cake. Grayson. I'm not sure if you saw but Billy Corgan is hitting the road not in support of Siame's dream, but to play melancholy in the infinite sadness, wondering what you think about all that hit me back? Let me know, Grayson. Let's Matt, Let's check out the two seven.

Speaker 3

Oher Hey, Jake, I left a message earlier about Mark Lanagan two seven. Oh, I'm new to this calling thing. I've listened to calling you. That is, I've listened to your show for years now. Every episode, I promise two seven is Bowling Green, Kentucky. I actually live in Nashville, so share an information because you share so much with me and us, Mark Lanagan, My recommendation is listen to Bubblegum the album in its entirety. You can't go wrong

with this catalog at all. Listen to that he was on one, then great album, Loose concept album, and then his work as the Gutter Twins with Greg Dooley. But once again, you can't go wrong. Listen or read. I would say listen because he narrates the book Seeing Backwards and Weep. Book came out a few years ago, a couple of years ironically before his untimely death. Once again, Mark Lanagan for me it's not even close. True badass, just like those outlaw country guys. He was a true badass.

Thank you, man, thank you so much for your content and your show. I love it. See if all right?

Speaker 1

I appreciate the land again recommendations. And this is not the first time Greg Dooley has come up, and I haven't commented on Greg Dooley. Dooley, He's incredible. He's incredible, gentleman by Afghan Wiggs. If you guys don't know that record, I'm gonna listen to that today. If you don't know that record, oh man, you're in for it. Put that on today. It's so damn good. Dooley's collaboration with Lanigan is another reason that I should get into the Mark

Lanagan story. And yes, two seven zero total outlaw. I wonder if if Bob Dylan would agree. I think you would that outlaw spirit is the theme of our recent episode on Bob Dylan, and I see a correlation between Bob and Lanigan. I wonder if you do, all right? Listen, In last week's after Party, we went through a list from gold Mine Magazine the top ten grunge albums of

all time. And you know, I gave my thoughts on that list, and then I provided my own list and one, uh, I think it was in the number ten spot was the single soundtrack, which I anticipated would get me some shit from you guys. We got this text here from the three oh four three oh four rights saying, hey, thank you for shouting out the single soundtrack. I wouldn't make it my number one, but it is a good one. But you saying that makes me feel better about claiming

some of my more questionable choices. Well, three oh four, I want those questionable choices. You can't leave me hanging like that. Come on, hit me back, and I'm happy to hear that you agree with my singles. Take I didn't have number one, by the way, I had him number ten. Okay, seven to sixty five rights say, hey, Jake, it's Amanda from the seven to sixty five and I just wanted to thank you for the George Michael episode. I loved George Michael, and not in a fangirl type

of way. I was convinced he was gay long before he came out. Well, we all were, and it didn't matter at all of me. His music spoke to me. I didn't really care for the wham stuff, it was much more. I was much more impressed by his later stuff, his deeper stuff. The amount of emotion he conjured with that incredible voice gave me chills every time. I chose him to do a presentation on for my World music class in college, and I learned something new from this episode. Also,

I didn't realize he had a GHB addiction. I knew he did drugs, but I thought he had gotten clean, and it real my heart when he died. I'm more in the loss of the amazing music yet to come, and I was also hoping he would meet someone else who would make him as happy as in Salomo Dude. Another quick note on the grunge topic. I've always been a fan of songs rather than albums. A lot of times I won't even know who performs them, but I know I love Man in the Box and spoon Man.

I grew up with radio, and if it wasn't on the radio, I probably haven't heard it. Thanks again for doing such a great job. I've listened to all of the podcast you've done now. Thank you so much. Seven six'. Five for those of you who don't, know we get A George michael episode a couple episodes back in the. Feed as you can hear from the seven sixty, five

it's a. Banger check that out at seven sixty. FIVE i appreciate you calling in with your thoughts On, George Michael textan AND i should, say and On man in The box And Spoon. MAN i think both those songs are completely emblematic of the grunge scene in the early. Nineties you couldn't escape those. SONGS i Believe man in The box might have been eighty nine or ninety not SURE i should, know. Though two one four text, In Hey, jake this is All austin from the two to one.

Four i've been a fan from the get go and finally caught up On. Disgraceline he've been asking about our Favorite seattle. Bands earlier this, MONTH i was In seattle for a ski trip and paid tribute To Kurt cobain AS i was able to check out the first venue Where nirvana played At Central. Saloon is pretty cool seeing some history attached to some visual, imagery and here we have two to one. Four austin sent in some amazing

photos from what looks to be The Central. Saloon looks like a small little, place and they got some great ephemera On nirvana And. Soundgarden i'm sure a whole bunch of other bands played. THERE i may have even been at The Central. Saloon i've been to a lot of clubs In. Seattle long, long, long, long, long long long time. Ago toured up there with The figs back in the early. Aughts and this place looks familiar to one, four looks very. Familiar MAYBE i was. There MAYBE i. Was MAYBE i

didn't know the history WHEN i was. There that would have been a. Shame thanks for bringing it to my. Attention appreciate you, guys six one seven nine oh six sixty six three. Eight you want to hang on the telephone with, me voicemail and or? Text all, right you guys want to hit me up at This gracelan pod On, facebook On, instagram on x have at it once. Again i'll get into all The dylan stuff and next week's after party as more people have had a chance to

listen to that. Episode i'm recording this here after party a day After Dylan part two is. Released okay over On facebook at To. Scracelanpod Scott simmons writes In lenny Bro lenny bro b R. Eau Scott simmons says jazz guitarist Ask Pat matheeni Or Tommy emmanuel about him and they'll have something to. Say one of the greatest tragedies in. MUSIC i got to say. It some would say a. Disgrace it's not OFTEN i get a recommendation from you, guys AND i have no idea who the hell you're talking.

About And i've never heard of this. Musician matt maybe you. HAVE i just. Don't i've never heard of this. Guy and Now i'm super. Intrigued i'm gonna check this. Out thank, You, scott appreciate. It Carl Glenn folmer writes In, hey have you ever considered doing an episode about the time that The jamaican military try to shoot Down Jimmy buffett's flying bo as he was trying to. Land it's ironic that he was friends with drug smugglers when he lived In Key.

West he was flying a plane that a lot of smugglers like to, use and it seems to, me seems to, Me Joe, walsh seems to, me you can have a lot of fun with. That you can talk about this history of drug use in the way he used to. PARTY i love this, Idea, CARL i really truly. Do and, Uh i'm kind of fascinated With florida history at the, moment very. Outlaw i'm also kind of fascinated with The,

keys which is part Of, florida but it's really. NOT i, mean officially it, is but it's a whole other fucking. World AND i am not A Jimmy buffett, fan BUT i know people who love the, dude love love love, him and his history sounds pretty. Amazing this is not the first Message i've received on doing a Possible Jimmy buffett. EPISODE i know the punk rockers in the audience are rolling the rise right, now but, hey come, on, man come.

On we Did Gigi, allan For god's. Sakes we can throw the parrot heeads At bone here six one seven nine oh six six six three eight At disgrace Lampod, Facebook, Instagram nearly all the messages On instagram are relative To Bob Dylan part. Two you guys are the. Best thank you for playing. ALONG i appreciate. You i'll get into a bunch of these next. Week YouTube Vet helen over on x At This Grace Lamp podcasts you want to hit me up on the. Socials we're gonna take a quick.

Break i'll be back in a flash with The Hollywood Lamb, minute as well as some emails and. Reviews, okay we are, back and you know what time it. Is it's time for The Hollywood Lamb, minute brought to you by The Hollywood Lamb. Podcast this is the newest segment of The After. Party you don't know what The Hollywood Lamb podcast. Is, Well The Hollywood Lamb podcast is hosted By Yours, truly where every WEEK i tell you a story from the annex Of hollywood and true. Crime and right now there

are over forty episodes waiting for you to. Binge episodes On James, Dean Jane, Fonda dennis hop most recently an episode On John. Waters here's a. Clip it was early on the morning Of november nineteen sixty. Eight everything was quiet except the sound of a church, bell which told softly in the, distance calling The morley upright To sunday morning services on the campus Of Johns Hopkins university In. Baltimore few students heeded the. Call most were still in,

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David lynch. Fan, lynch of, course made great films in addition To Twin, Peaks Mulholland, Drive, Eraserhead Lost, Highway Patricia, Urcat, damn why are you going to be so? Hot And Lost Highway Patricia. Arquet, Anyway David lynch In Hollywood. Land next, week make sure you're subscribed To Hollywood Land In Hollywood, News Oliver stone relative to what we've been talking about, here was On Capitol hill yesterday as part of the group of folks who were testifying to the facts behind

THE jfk. Assassination Now Oliver, stone in addition to making the great FILM, jfk which tipped off a lot of this sort of seeking of truth around this matter prior to, That Oliver, STONE i believe it was prior to that which first The doors ARE. JFK i could look it, up But i'm not going. To i'm trying to stay. Focused, anyways they're back to, BACK i, believe and they're both fucking.

Great The doors is. Great i've had my problem With The doors in the, past but you, know it's kind OF i, mean there's a lot about it that's, sensational BUT i don't. CARE i love. That there was a lot About Jim morrison that was, sensational AND i think IT'S i think it's a great music bio. Pick and, Again i've been up and down with this film over the, years BUT i think Where i'm landing with, it Where i'm ending with, it IS i fucking love. It and of course this brings us to the very sad news

That Val kilmer has passed. Away this was. Announced WHEN i woke up this, MORNING i heard. It and of, Course Val kilmer just an incredible, actor a great leading man who probably in a previous generation Of hollywood would have had a, much a much, bigger more impactful. Career

not that he didn't have a bit impactful. Career he most certainly, did BUT i feel like in the last few decades of his, Career val veered somewhat away from the leading man, path and he did a lot in support of other, filmmakers other, actors and you, know one of my Favorite Val kilmer, roles he's not the leading, man it's it's In. Heat it's his, character And, heat WHO i think is JUST i think that character is.

INCREDIBLE i think he plays it, incredibly and it's in support of Al pacino and really in support Of robert De niro more than anything, else and he just fucking kills.

IT i was reading this morning again relative to what we're talking about here About Val kilmer's relationship With Bob, dylan and there's this, great this great story That Val kilmer tweeted, out and of Course kilmer did that movie With Bob, dylan but this Story he depicts this before he Does bob's, movie and which is called what Was Bob's masked And, anonymous and that's what it was. Called

prior to. That They kilmer's In New York, city and Somehow Bob dylan gets in touch with him and wants to come over to his hotel and like meet with. Him AND i think they're friends by this, point but they haven't quite worked with each, other but they don't

know each other that. Well and of Course dylan comes over and he's all Mysterious, dylan and he Asked kilmer to start reciting dialogue from his from his character's role In, tombstone And kilmer says to, him, okay sing me blowing in the, wind And bob didn't like that at all. Apparently But kilmer then goes on to to CREATE i guess like a like a spoof version of His tombstone

quotes set to the lyrics of one Of dylan's. SONGS i think it Was it's all, Right, mom only, bleeding and he sent it To dylan and They dylan dug, it and of course they become, friends and And val does that role For bob, later WHICH i just. Loved also this morning On Val. KILMER i want to Give Val kimer a minute. HERE i saw this tweet From Jennifer tilly regarding Regarding kilmer and how he got his

role In Oliver Stones The. Doors, So Jennifer tilly writes ON X a long time, AGO i was auditioning for the Movie The. Doors it was kind of a cattle, call and they paired together potential gems with potential, pamelas and they were running. Behind so we were spilling out of the casting office and sitting on the porch in the lawn in the. Driveway all of a, sudden a sixties convertible came screeching, up blaring doors music at top,

volume and a guy jumped out and strode. Inside he had wild, hair and he was, barefoot, shirtless and wearing nothing but a pair of tight leather. Pants we all looked at each, other, like who is this? Guy and we were more than a little shook by the sheer audacity of his. Entrance, well of course it Was Val, kilmer and from that minute on nobody else stood a.

Chance rest in, Peace. KING i love, that AND i love how Seriously Val kilmer took getting that role because nobody could have played that role as well As Val kilmer. Did he fucking destroyed he killed, it killed it for a huge part of my late teen, years in my early, ADULTHOOD i couldn't even think Of Jim morrison without thinking Of Val. Kilmer that's how Good Val kilmer is in that. Role And Val kilmer was of course great in a

ton of different. Roles And i'll be looking for some of his films, tonight in this week and this, weekend AS i know you guys will as. Well maybe we'll even Do Adoors Val kilmer episode of Hollywood land at some. Point rest in, Peace Val, kilmer and thank You Oliver stone for all the great work you've done over the. Years all, right it's that time of the show where we get into your reviews Of disgraceland of Hollywood. Land maybe Maybe i'll do some Hollywood land once. Here i'm not,

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i'm going to encourage you to restart your. App just close The apple podcast app and restart, it BECAUSE i don't know what the fuck is going. On but all of our stories are, Finished. Cindy we take great pride in finishing our, stories and not only finishing, Them, cindy finishing them with the classic storytelling trope of finishing with a surprising but inevitable, end As aristotle taught us Via David, Mammott, cindy we finish our. EPISODES i don't don't know what

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drum On Apple. Podcast great voice that holds my attention and you could keep going on. Forever keep it, Up Pam. Drum you got A Pam, Drum get in, Touch Pam, drum you get yourself some free. Merch all, Right disgrace lampod at gmail dot. Com on the, EMAIL i want to read this email From Johnny, vinel who's been a big part of the show. Lately, johnny appreciate. You johnny is a, huge Huge seattle music, fan huge grunge, fan huge just fan of classic. Rock and he is just

this good. Taste AND i followed his account On instagram for a while AND i like when he writes me because he's usually got something good to, say and he emails in he called To But i'm gonna read the email here because it's it's done really. Well he writes, In, Hey, jake after listening to around one hundred podcasts and after, parties Now i'm inspired to share my. Thoughts first of, All, johnny what the. Fuck we've got over two hundred and twenty five full episodes Of, disgrace so come, on, man

get in, here. Dude, Anyway johnny goes, On i'm inspired to share my, thoughts, opinions ideas with you to either your pleasure or. Boredom this is a message of me firing off various topics that will come off as, insane one sided, banter or thoughtful and inspiring topics worth, Discussion

johnny goes, on the Reason i'm reading this. Email johnny goes on to give us his top ten list of so called grunge albums in the ten spot like, Me johnny Has singles number, Nine Siamese dream number, Eight Dirt That's els And chains number, seven Super unknown, six Super, Fuzzed Big muff, Five bleach, Four bad Motor finger three ten, Two facelift one never. Mind great, List. JOHNNY i like that you Have bad Motor finger above Super. UNKNOWN i appreciate.

That johnny also goes on to talk a lot about some of his favorite classic rock and some of his favorite, directors and he mentions here that outside of, Rock i'm a Huge Miles davis. Fan. HUGE i love it all as a. VOCALIST i Find miles's trumpet to be a, voice AND i think you're spot on there as, Well. Johnny so appreciate the. Email, Guys disgrace sampod at gmail dot,

com you want to get in. Touch this episode is nearing its, end but over in the bonus section of this, episode which is coming up just after, this and you can hear the bonus part of this. Episode we're gonna get into my recommendations. Here i'm gonna talk a little bit about What i'm listening to this week and what more, excitedly What i'm. Watching i'm watching two fantastic shows ON. Tv i'm really really, inspired still Watching Kenny Powers Is

i'm about to land that. Plane but there's two other newest shows That i'm app adoring at the. Moment i'm going to talk about both of, them and you guys can hear. That just so long as you become a, member an all access member Of, disgraceland and that's very easy to. Do you just go to disgracelandpod dot com

slash membership and you sign. Up it's five bucks a. Month you get the bonus section of the After, party you get the extra exclusive episode Of disgraceland once a. Month we just released an episode On slipknot that came out last week that is there for. You you guys want to sign, up come on and get Some get that Slip knot. Episode next month we get an episode On David, crosby which is fucked. UP i gotta tell

You crosby was an. Animal crosby might be my answer to next week's question of the week on who is more debaucherous Than Billy. Idol it might Be David, crosby that. Guy Damn, well we're gonna get into all of, that but the only way you're gonna be able to hear it is if you become a, member and that's just five bucks a. Month. Now you also GET ad free listening Of, disgraceland All disgrace, episodes not just the exclusive, episode all of them ad free and. Listen we're selling ads, lately.

Guys we teamed up with our partners over At odyssey and they're selling the shit out of the. Show so there's lots of. Ads you might hate the, ads BUT i gotta tell, YOU i got to pay. PEOPLE i gotta pay. MYSELF i got to produce this aw some. Content it's not free to. Do it costs. Money but if, listen if you're annoyed with the, ADS i get. It there's a way around. It five bucks a, month you're

gonna get that ad free listening on every. Episode you're gonna get that exclusive episode as, well and you're gonna get the bonus section of the after. Party just go to disgrace lampod dot com slash. Membership all, right, guys we are back and. Listen i'm about to get out of. Here BEFORE i, DO i cherry picked some episodes from our archive for you. Guys And i'm doing this because The Snoop Dogg archive episode came out last week and

it did gangbusters in terms of, downloads lots of. Listens this episode came out in twenty, nineteen, okay and it's getting it's just getting massive new. Exposure SO i love. IT i love. IT i love. IT i love. It AND i, thought you, know we can only release one archive episode a. WEEK i should probably do a better job of bringing to light some of these other episodes

that are in the. ARCHIVE i know there's a lot of deadheads who listen to the, show AND i know that The Grateful dead episode of Disgrace sand has been talked about a, lot but there is a second, episode an episode on Pig, pen an episode on The Grateful dead's Pig, pen which really gets. IN i kind of treated it as A Grateful dead origin. Story it's really

kind of like it's about their come. Up it centers Around, pigpen of, course but it's about all the great, weird, strange Weird americana that they were, into AND i think you're gonna dig. It there's also from all this great sort of crime true, crime not true, crime crime fiction

That i've been absorbing lately and talking. ABOUT i was just talking about a crime show in the bonus section of this after party got me thinking about The pantera episode Of, disgraceland which is one of my, favorites and of, course you Know I'm i'm a sucker for a good mob. Story i'm actually looking, forward by the, way side, note to watching that New robert De niro movie where he

plays two roles simultaneously opposite one. ANOTHER i can't think of the name of the, film but it got fucking panned when it came out last, week BUT i watched the trailer And i'm into it and it's a mob. Story but, anyways mob stories From, disgraceland The Tommy james Episode Tommy. James. Okay also this has relevance With Billy idol coming up next Week Mony Mony, okay get into. That and you Know i'm Mentioning Billy idol. Here Billy idol makes me think of the Sex pistols Because Billy

Idol GENERATION. X i've been back In london back in the, day back part of that first first generation OF uk, Punk Billy idol's Band GENERATION, x and we talk a lot about the Sid vicious episode or disgrace In but there are two episodes on the Sex pistols that are waiting for you in the. Archive matt will have all the information on these episodes in the show. Notes if you want an easy guide to finding them in our massive, archive check the show. Notes he'll have that info. There all,

right let's, recap shall. We number, One my other, podcast Hollywood, land is a live and kicking over in the Hollywood land, Feed so make sure you are subscribed and following Hollywood land On Apple, Podcasts spotify or wherever you get your. Podcasts number two right now in your Disgrace land, Feed Our part two episode On Bob. Dylan number three coming, Tomorrow our rewind episode On James Brown nu before merch winners get in. Touch you know who you? Are number.

Five remember no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you. Do and well that's a, disgrace all. Right in honor of this week's, Subject Bob, dylan this is me reading you the phone book From june seventeenthnineteen seventy, two the day of The watergate break In Why watergate And Bob. Dylan well you have to listen to part two with The Bob dylan

story find out all, right here we. Go number One The Candy, Man Sammy Davis junior and The Mike Curb congregation last week, one peak position one weeks On chart. Fifteen number Two I'll Take You. There The Staples singers last week, two peak position one weeks On chart. Eleven number three Song Son Blue Neil diamond last week, four peak positions three press weeks On chart. Seven number, Five nice To Be If You gallery nine last week, six

peak position five weeks On chart. Seventeen number Six out Of Space Billy preston last week, nine peak position six weeks on chart, nine number, Seven try The Jimmy, castle quit talking and start. Mixing h

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