Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Disc Golf Answer Man. I'm Bobby, Cool Daddy, Slick Breeze and have with me a special guest, Nathan from Another Round Disc Golf. Now let me tell you a little bit of back story of How I Met Nate. When I got back to Dynamic Discs, I started taking a deep dive into social media like I've been telling you guys, and the Fungi Podcast was one of the first disc golf podcast I came across.
And I was like, I love that these guys are just casual, just chill talking about disc golf and content creation because all of them do content creation on the podcast. And so I even commented on a couple of their videos and they had me on their show and I had a great time. And then I just saw Nate at Disc East and I was like, I got to get you on the show so I can learn more about you. So how are you doing today, Nate? Coolest of daddies, slickest of breeze.
It's a pleasure to be here. I'm I'm doing well, yeah. I think back to Fonzie because knowing I was going to be on this podcast, I, I remember that you would like comment on some of our things and I figured it would come up.
And I think back to early on in that podcast, I think in the first episode, so that those that don't know it's a podcast, Fonzie, it's me, my, me and myself, me, J Millie and Ben, Ben Kenny. So Ben does like the Expo, you know, he's on like staggered stance, stuff like that. J Millie's like, hey, yeah, I have all these subscribers and I put out all this awesome YouTube content.
And that was a point that I was like, yeah, I just put out like videos on Instagram and I was just making my own stuff. I think I had like 3000 followers on Instagram. So the, the imposter syndrome was very strong. Hey, yeah, happy to be here. I get that impossible. We'll get into that a little bit later. So just for the few people that hadn't heard of you or what you got going on, tell us a little bit about your your disc golf story. My disc golf story.
So perfect timing. January of 2020, my father-in-law, he goes down to hang out with his brother. He lives in Clearwater, FL so like right next to Cliff Stevens. And those that don't know, Cliff Stevens is Ken Climo, AKA Kenneth Columbus's home course. So perfect place. He goes down there, plays and that man comes back on a mission and he's like, I need to show you guys all of this. So classic. He he shows us and I'm like, yeah, I don't really care.
This is lame. For like the first year I would still go plagues. It was like an Ave. to hang out with everyone, get outside 'cause like I just love going outside and like doing that more so. And then finally I like got the bug as everyone does. And then in 20/20/20, 3 or 2024, I think it was like the very top of the new year. I was like I was seeing at the time it was Mr. and Mrs. Bogey. Now another round.
Twin Cities. So if anyone follows them on Instagram, I got I found that account and I just became absolutely obsessed with the storytelling that Nick was doing with that account. It just really spoke to what I cared about disc golf. Just the hanging out with your buddies on like a summer night and just throwing shots that you're laughing at. So I just went through and was watching every every single thing that he was posting.
And I was like, I'm just going to buy the most recent iPhone that I can with the best camera setup. Well, like, best camera settings on the phone and I was like, I'm just going to send it and see what happens. So then I did that for about a year or so. And then that's when Daddy Joe Joseph Phillips contacted me. He contacted me and was like, hey, what if we like, started doing some stuff together? But yeah.
And that, that blew me away. Fast forward like a year and a half and it became a full time position and I've been living down here in Charlotte with my wife for about 5 months now and this is I left my day job for this. Nate, tell us a little bit about how you actually got started in actually just not even disc golf media, but like what made you even want to start creating content at all? Well. I ended up going to school to
work in like biology. So for the my job before this, I bet no one would be able to guess it. I have said it on like podcast and told people before. So I was the assistant deer and moose biologist for the state of Connecticut. That's right. So the assistant deer and moose biologist for the state of Connecticut. So I did a lot of deer disease related work and before that I did like 4 years of working with waterfowl. I love to do, I love doing that,
but it's like government work. And in that that type of environment, there will always be people that are either doing exactly what's expected, go above and beyond or do nothing. And unfortunately in that setting, at least where I worked, everyone was kind of treated the same. So a lot of people that would come in super gung ho over time would get like, they'd find themselves very jaded and would just stop doing like a lot of work.
And that's like a very intrinsic value that my parents put in me. Like I just love to work hard on things and give my best effort that I possibly can. And it started to become a downer. The thing that obviously I went to school for was kind of just like taking enjoyment away from me a little bit, like sometimes when I'd go to the office. So I wanted something in my free time that I could, that could just be me, like my own and like I didn't have to depend on other
people. I could just like this fun outlet that I could make dumb jokes or just express my enjoyment of disc golf. So yeah, like back in that 2024 era of me like buying that phone and starting to make disc golf content, I saw at least at the time, there wasn't really like a lot of, I guess, like funny accounts like making disc golf
content. Like if you go back on my personal account, like that's pretty much the majority of stuff that I, I used to do. And I, yeah, I mean, I know like real prior experience making videos or anything. So the fact that I'm here is kind of bizarre.
And it just shows like if you want to make a transition in your life, I think it seems overwhelming, but you just got to just send it and then hope that it works out and don't think twice about it. Because I was working my day job and then by the time I, I got, I didn't even say what my title
is, I guess with another round. So I do like social media, social media editing, camera work, graphic design, stamps, pretty much any visual representation of another round is probably done by me at least for the last like 2 years, probably 95% of it. And. What else? Yeah, What I'm going to say is that you had mentioned something about at the job where it felt like even though you were a hard worker, you didn't seem to get rewarded. Right. And and I love I I'm the kind of the same way.
It's like I want to put my all into it. And so I like having the reward of either advancing or but what I love about content creation on your own is that you get that feedback, right? If you put something into it and you and people like it, they're going to comment or like it or share it or what not. And so I could see how that would appeal to you. Like if I put a lot more a lot of effort into my videos and making funny videos, people are going to respond and I'll get that feedback.
As as you said, in that job, you really need to get much feedback no matter how much work you put into it. So I can see how this could be an appeal to you. Yeah, completely. I, it sounds like I've had like all these different things, but it it has, my life hasn't been that crazy. It's just like that was my day job. And the thing that I did in my free time was before doing that was doing music.
So if anyone knows, like hardcore or metal core bands, I used to dude, I would record bands or like I would help record bands. I would, we like toured some stuff a little bit. I would help like write music and that was my thing. But if anyone has ever been a part of like being in a band, you're essentially in a relationship with like three or four other people. So the fact that any band exists is kind of a miracle because you all have to agree simultaneously on on certain things.
And it was it was an awesome experience, don't get me wrong, but being able to do things in my whenever I had free time as opposed to like when everyone else had free time and that was awesome. That made it like a lot more fun for sure. I was in some, again, some similar, it was a rap group at the church I went to and I would produce some of the beats for them and I would find songs for them to sample and stuff like that. So but yeah, you definitely there.
It was only the two guys and then me for a little bit and then I decided not to do it anymore. And then one of the guys joined the Army and stuff. So but yeah, there's it is like being in a relationship because you have to get along with each other. Even though you get excited about the creation process, once you start doing it over and over again, then you start seeing some people like, no, I want this sound. No, I think this sounds better. So yeah, I can see that for
sure. Now you mentioned that you you, you know, you had no experience. So how did you gain that experience? How did you go from like, I just want to creative outlet. I've never made videos before. How did you go to start creating videos? How did did you teach yourself via YouTube or what was that path? No, I didn't. I didn't really teach myself a single thing, or rather I didn't like go look up things. I'm more so just it was like, hey, I'm going to buy the iPhone.
Cool. That will be the exclusive thing that I'm basing all of my knowledge off of because it's it's good enough And like obviously I can use it for other things. And then for editing software. I think at this point, I know myself and Joe get a lot of questions about editing software to use. Just just use any of them or even people. People back in the day, would I say back in the day, it was like a year and a half ago, they'd be like, what? What's your camera setup? It looks unreal.
And it's like brother iPhone it iPhone has its limitations, but you can make iPhone look pretty Dang good. And I think at the end of the day, the camera that you choose to use is pretty much just as long as it's good enough. It's a vessel for you to be able to share your content and relate with other people. And I think that's where a lot of people may get caught up is like, and they all come from a
good place. But yeah, just download whatever's editing software, start with whatever that's free. Do that because you can find a ton of workarounds even with like the limited software that you choose. Like you don't have to dive straight into Da Vinci because I know that's free. And people like Josh AKA J Millie, every time I bring up J Millie or I call him Josh personally, but I have to like also specify like J Millie.
I know that's what he recommends, but if you have no idea what you're doing, that can be very overwhelming. But. Oh, I tried Da Vinci I and I've I've done I, I've started on Windows Movie Maker bat way back in the day. I did that and then iMovie, the more very basic one for Apple and then Final Cut Pro 7 and then 10 for a little bit. And then I've, you know, finally got into Premiere Pro. And then I tried Da Vinci one time and I was like, this is stupid.
I don't yeah, I'm like, where's the timeline? Where is this? Where's that? And it's like, and someone was like, well, you just got to learn it. Once you learn, I don't want to. Yeah. So you'll figure out limitations as you you go, but then that's when you probably like step up and try something else. But for a good 2-3 years, just stick with that and you'll you'll be surprised how much you
learn. Yeah. So, so when it came to media creation, so it's, if I'm understanding you right, so you just did fun stuff and then it became disc golf stuff. You didn't do it. You didn't do media for any other weddings, friends or anything like that? No, not a single thing. And I think that's where that's where a lot of that imposter syndrome I think came from because I had no idea what I was doing. And not that I don't know what
I'm doing now. I finally feel like I'm in a secure place and I'm very proud of the journey that I've taken to get here and love what I'm just all the things that I get to make and do. But I like, let me put this into perspective. I started working for another round by making 95% of the things that I put out, whether it was graphics or videos or really anything I did on my phone, I did on my phone. I would edit on my phone, record on my phone. So just do that until you're
like, you know what? I think it's time for me to make the next step. Yeah. So, OK. So how long you been full time in another round? I moved down here the very tail end of August. But you were doing, you've been doing a part time before that for another year. And a half part time. Yeah. And so I guess my question is what, what did you start doing just part time for them? What what it? What was a daily like workload for you as far as them doing
part time? Yeah. So what that's, that's a great question because I don't know if I've talked about this from all in one concise spot. So I did 1 reel a day at that point. That was just like a nice easy spot for me to start. If Joe went out and he had like special announcements for store openings, he'd be like, hey, I've got all this footage, can I send it to you? And I'd be like, boom, yeah, in a couple hours have this all this jumbled mess put it together, have it ready for 8:00 PM.
So I'd had like the night slot and I will never forget the first video that I ever did. And if anyone wants to go back and find it, they're more than welcome to it's two years ago was Jake Wolf throwing at OTB open. And I mean, I turned it into like a backyard baseball sort of thing. Like I pretty much at that time I, I was like, so I had so much pride in my ability to like, edit and do these crazy edits. Like I was trying way too hard.
Like I needed someone to like pat me on the back and be like, it's OK. Like you're enough. Like you don't need to try, try super hard, but that's that's what I end up doing. Eventually that turned into two times a day and I would make graphics for maybe like there was a disk that was dropping that day. So I'd put that on the story or somehow put it into a reel. Now the current workload is I do three reels a day on YouTube and Instagram and then I do a YouTube video every two to three
days and e-mail graphics stamps. Those are kind of they're not really like a day-to-day thing. It's just as needed sort of basis, but. So let's go back to though when you went from part time to full time was that I think you may maybe mention a little bit at the beginning, but like how did that conversation go with Joseph when it said, OK, it's time to go full time? Terrifying.
I mean, my entire life, I've grown up in Connecticut and done the thing that I went to school for, you know, like the, this is what your parents want you to do. And I did it and of course I chose what I wanted to do. But it's, you know, my, my wife is from the same area and we've never lived anywhere else like another state, never mind moving 12 hours South. And so the, the conversation ended up being asking if like that's a future that would ever
he could see. And he said some something to the effect of I don't want you. Like, of course it is. I just don't want you to feel like you have to move down here for the job sake or for our sake. So there was a lot of conversations with like my family and obviously making sure that I'd like make enough money that we could survive and like, it made sense to to do the move. But yeah, it ended up working out and I'm, I'm very happy I'm
here. I I would be lying if I said that I I wasn't terrified moving down. Sure. How long did it take like from the from the the moment of this could be a thing to like let's do this. Is there a long time span? Are we talking like weeks, months or? No, it was it was probably a couple weeks, a couple weeks ago. I said this before we started the podcast to to Bobby. Some people are like very much into planning. I remember in high school you would talk to kids that are going to college.
They're like, I know what college I'm going to. I know what I'm going to grow up and be. I know the age that I'm going to do XY and Z. And I never knew those things. And that's why going into college, like I went to it, but I didn't really. I would. I always wished I had other things that I was doing. I'm like, man, I just want something more out of what I'm doing. They're just like being at school and I'm grateful I did
it, don't get me wrong. But yeah, I'm very happy with where I've somehow added up. Just just send it I guess is the point that I'm getting to I. Love it now. Has has media creation changed for you since going full time? Because I remember my like when I was part time, I would work a full time job at a credit union and then I'd go home and I was excited because like this was what I was excited. This is what I wanted to do, right?
And I would get, I would get home, I'd eat dinner and then about 6:00 I'd be editing dynamic diss videos for 4-5 hours, right? Staying up way too late. And my wife would be like, you know, you're staying up too late. And I'm like, no, I want to make this a thing. I want to. And then now it's a thing. Now it's what you have to think about when you go. And it sounds exciting, but has it changed the way you approach content at all?
When I made content for my for myself, it was pretty much I would just go out on the disc golf course and play and it's almost like the content would write itself. Now everything is, it's not scripted, but I am thinking ahead like an entire week. So now I, I, I still love, I, I love making all this stuff. It's more so just the biggest issue is time management. Because in a, a job like this, you, it could be very easy to blur the lines between personal
time and working time. Especially because I'm, I'm posting all throughout the day. Like I probably make the 1st post 11:12 AM Eastern Standard Time or PM Eastern Standard Time and then maybe like 9:00 PM at the latest Eastern Standard Time. So I'm going to be doing a couple of those things at night. And then you're like, well, maybe I could work on the e-mail tomorrow, like start getting
some graphics done. And it's like, brother, you're also a husband and you should probably check in with your family, make time with friends. And I think at first that was because moving down here, like, I want to make sure these guys feel like they are getting, I'll just say like their money's worth out of it. Because, you know, it's, I'm another person that's on the day-to-day like they're giving money. So I'm like, OK, I like, really
have to like show myself. And they're like, yeah, take a step back because you could burn yourself out super easily. And now I've, I've found like a very good rhythm with everything. So it, it keeps my, my enjoyment of, of making content for sure, so that I'm just not like 24/7 disc golf. Tell me what it what is your process like? How do you go from we need? Well, I'm thinking of me because it's like we have releases, but you guys talk about releases, right?
You just have all the brands. So how do you go from Hey Nate, we're going to have these discs come out on this day. How do you go from that being told that this is coming out to now I'm going to make either a long form or short form video? What's kind of your process? Well, we have a calendar that shows the releases for the entire month that we have to
kind of prep for. And I just have like an entire folder on my phone that probably has probably just over 100 different ideas on it that I just randomly come up with. I don't usually, I rarely take time to just sit down and be like, hey, what's a good idea? They just kind of pop up, especially if I'm thinking of disc golf all the time. I'm like, man, why has no one done this yet? So I'll write that down and put it away for like a couple weeks
from then. From then, it's pretty much just communicating with Joe. Or if anyone's been following the another on YouTube channel, that's been like a really big thing that I've been pushing since October. And we have on Austin Turner a lot of the time. So I'm communicating with him as well. Him and Joe see what they say. And pretty much pretty much
that. Like I, I for the person that doesn't plan like a a lot, I'd find myself now like I have to write things down just because of the sheer number of things that are going on. So I'll come up with an idea like today, perfect example, Joe and I go out to record. We just got like a bunch of snow in Charlotte, but we want to show off some like some recent drops that just came out and it's like, what's the concept for the video? And just on the spot you come up with it.
So you got to be. It's like boom, perfect time to reference that folder of ideas, but no active time usually. Yeah. Do you have any plans for something that's maybe a little more structured? Not that those aren't structured, but you know what I'm saying? A little more structured, a little more produced as far as like, storytelling. For sure. Yeah, I have.
That's going to be like the, the biggest thing that we're going to do coming up is lately we do a lot of I guess like challenge style disc golf videos because those tend to be the easiest in terms of like you just go out there and like we kind of just do it. I guess like you don't really have to rehearse anything. But that's, I think that's going to be a big part of where I come in.
And like a lot of these things because I, we've talked a lot about me being having more of a presence on the channel instead of me just kind of the guy that's doing all the behind the scenes stuff. And I'll be doing a lot more storytelling related things. Are you excited about that or does that make you nervous to be in front of the camera more? No, no, like I, I love being in front of the camera. I just don't find myself doing it nearly as much.
Like any time that I, I've done like a couple things with Joe, like I'll go out and people are like, is he really actually good or is he just like throwing 1000 shots and the man is disgusting at disc golf. He's so automatic and good. Like he just sets up a camera boom does it. And like I personally, like I, I can't do that. Like just turn it on all of a sudden. So I'm definitely I can focus on my job way easier. Definitely like a giant group of people.
If I'm just recording, I know what I have to do, make it the best that I can. But that's definitely going to be a part of the the growth of, you know, the next couple of years. You mentioned three reels a day. What do you have like categories that you say, OK, I this is, I'm going to do category A, category B, category C, or is it like I'm just going to make sure I have three done? I don't know where I'm going to get the idea from.
So me personally, day-to-day, I do occasionally have certain things that I will maybe are scripted or things that I'm trying to get done if there's like a release, but otherwise it's what do I have that's saved on my phone that I could just, or my computer just readily like scan through.
I, I feel like a, a big skill of mine and maybe anyone else that's trying to get into like a fill a similar role or do content creation is just to like, maybe not everything turns out exactly how you want it to, like when you're going to record. But if you can take like a a little moment and turn it into something through the power of editing or coming up with an idea like that is such a huge strength. So I'll go through and maybe it's like, I don't know, Joe throws like a bad shot.
It's like, OK, how can I turn this into something funny or whatever? You just have to, I mean, creativity is your for sure your best friend and not just to like throw a shot. Oh, you're parked. Oh, here's an ace. Here's a so yeah, just whatever, whatever I got. And then next day record. Maybe there's a cool moment in there. How long is that something that you're doing right now to kind of build some momentum with the platforms? Or is that your plan? Like I'm going to have 3 rules a
day until my fingers fall off. No, I that's a perpetual. I mean, that's my everyday as I have three a day. So yeah, forever, forever and always. Maybe occasionally there'll be like a few more, but three a day is the minimum. And it is. I still think back to, like when I was doing one a day and like, that was my pinnacle. And like, this needs to be the most perfect, pristine thing I've ever made. And now it's like I'm doing 3A day plus the other stuff.
And I'm like, how was I? Like, what was I doing with my time management previously? Like it. I just like, watch TV, but yeah. Oh, oh, analytics. I know this might be too technical for some people, but for if you're listening and this is something you want to do, this is good information. So in the analytics, when you went from one reel to the three reels, did you notice that the the three reels kind of compete with each other for that day? Or how did you kind of work that out?
Or was you, were you just kind of like, you know, I'm going to post 3 so that people are just slammed with content? Well, this is just what Another Round has done previous to me working for them. And I feel like I might have kind of a unique perspective on that because before working in disc golf, I was a fan of like Dynamic. I was a fan of Another Round as I looked up to all these things.
So I feel like I was able to look at stuff that people were putting out and being like, man, I wish they did these things. And I try to think back to those because I always remember, like I wanted any little tidbit of like, now there are things that I'm sure are normal to me that I'm like, people would love to see this sort of stuff. Yeah, three reels a day. It's just working up to that, right? That was the question. Well, it was more on the
analytic, analytic side. Like, do you feel that putting out so many reels a day? The, the real, the like, in my mind, I think of, OK, you put something out at 11 AM, then you put something out at 5:00 PM, then you put something out at 11:00 PM. Is the thing you put out at 5:00 PM competing with the thing you put out at 11 AM for people's attention? Or is that even part of the what you look at as far as analytics? No, I think that's, yeah, that's
a really good question. No, I think it's the short answer. I don't think they're competing for one another. I think there's a fine line that you'll find if you are posting multiple times a day, if you're posting. So like we OK, we post three times a day. So that's as long as they're like an hour or two apart. Like I'd say like over 2 hours apart, you're probably fine. Like just just send it and you're not going to like alienate your audience.
I think you can go in the opposite direction though. If you're posting like 10 times a day or something, I think people are going to start getting annoyed that they're seeing you so often in their feed. But as long as you can say like a consistent part where people are viewing the things that you're doing, I think that's
probably a good thing. And you're putting out multiple chances to have something that does well, like a reel or short that gets like a lot of views and then helps your account overall. Yeah, and it feels like like as I asked a question and and you talk, is that putting out the three reels, even though you're I'm thinking competing each other? We're we're all just really competing, not just with other disc golf channels.
We're competing with like the stupid meme that just got, you know, when popular someone falling the you know, the now I see on Facebook the character meme that's now being put out everywhere. So in other words, or whatever Nike puts out or whatever you know Pepsi puts out, we're also competing for because we're basically competing for people's attention. So I get 3. I could see where the three reels kind of gives you an edge
because you're like, I'm going to put three votes out there. 3 possibilities of getting your attention rather than just the one possibility of getting their attention. Yeah, right. And there's, there's multiple ways of, of doing stuff. Like you look at again, J Millie, he's putting out one reel a day that he is more like one piece of content a day that is maybe like, let's, let's say
more highly curated. I guess where he's, he's like very meticulous with like the edit and stuff like that. Not to say that I'm not doing that, but it just, it just depends day-to-day, like which, which things I'm putting out. Like maybe the thing that I put out at noon, it kind of was a flop. And it's like, man, it can be really easy to get down on yourself. And it's like just wait until 5:00 PM, man.
Just wait until 5:00 PM. Don't beat yourself up too much about it and just to think about the next thing. So that's a good question about quality. And I think I asked you that because I recently had a meeting with our brand team and we have a couple of the creative guys that are part of the meeting and they always they're like, Hey,
Bobby, could could you? We do and hope maybe I hopefully don't listen to this and get mad at me, but they're like, Hey, can you maybe have us proofread some of your videos and stuff like that, that we're not going to give you any kind of direction on creativity, but maybe like if a word's misspelled or something like that, maybe we can kind of catch that. And I'm like, man, but I don't want to slow down the process, right?
So I guess my question is like when we have J Millie where he spends a lot of time, you got a lot of edits. It looks great. But then sometimes I'm like, I just want to get stuff out there, right? I want something out there to captors, people's attention. What's kind of your philosophy on that as far as I guess to break it down, simple terms of quality over quantity?
For sure. So naturally I'm a perfectionist and I think that when I started making content like I talked a little bit about earlier, I really focused a lot on just trying to show off my editing skills and do all these way over the top 2 meticulous edits. And it's not like I saw any crazy growth, not that that should be your focus for creating content because I, I just, I loved making it.
You just have to find the balance that makes you feel good about yourself at the end of the day, I guess the best way to say it, So you're balancing what you enjoy with what your audience is enjoying as well. So to transition away, because the first few things that I made for another round, maybe I would take all this time to do an insane edit and it would just get utterly blanked. No one cared. And you're like, man, that is painful. But again, the audience will always tell you if they're
enjoying something or not. And it can be easy to be like, man, they just don't get it. Like they just don't. And it's like, just try other stuff. You can still make total content even if I'm not. So yeah, point I'm getting to is like trying to meld what I did with what another Round did because Joe's was very, and I mean this in the best way possible, like bare bones, just film himself with an iPhone and like Ace and the IT factor of what he's doing comes through to the viewer.
So I'm pretty much just like trying to lightly edit things that don't get in the way of what is happening in the video, try to let the video shine, but things that elevate it and be like, oh, that was kind of clean. I guess it's kind of the best way I can say it. But yeah, it's it's different for everyone. Just mess around with stuff, edit something heavily, edit something a little bit and just see what what you're liking. So. What? What else do you do? What else does Nate do when he's
not editing disc golf? When he's not thinking disc golf. When I'm not doing disc golf right now, well, I like to cook a lot. I I do a lot of cooking at home and some of the another round boys also like to cook. So it's fun to talk with those guys about that big into. Talking like grilling or like fancy meals? What do we mean when we say cooking? What do you mean? Yeah, it's like a balance of stuff, just like making like a
pot roast. Like we got snow down here in Charlotte and it's like nothing like for some people, they're exactly like you laughed. And I know you don't mean it in like a bad way. It's just like, it's just like for me, I'm so stoked on that pot roast and making one that people eat it in their face. Just I see them melt or like, yeah, making like a chicken pot pie. I'm just stoked. I'm trying to make food as good
as I can. Like I was very lucky growing up. My mom is an incredible chef and this EI got to stay up in New England for like 5 days for my birthday and my mom made me like prime rib. I just want to aspire to be like that, you know what I mean? Also like go out to hockey with the Another Round boys love to
go watch hockey. Otherwise, like like I mentioned before, I used to do a lot of music and maybe occasionally you'll see me do some like guitar stuff on the Another Round account, but it's very very rare now that I play guitar but would like to do a little bit more moving forward. I know I'm kind of bouncing around with these things, popping my head at the disk E, There was the content creator panel, right? And I asked that question and I want to get your feedback on it as well.
Here is that I noticed this is something I noticed and there's this in my mind, it's kind of a controversial, not a controversial topic, but I know some people probably don't care. But I noticed that the players that had tables set up, they had crowds there and they had people talking to him, but the content creators had the same amount, if not more of a crowd around them,
right? And then even MVP, you know, MVP had the huge line, but there was a lot of people wanting to talk to Simon. Now, Simon's kind of that outlier. He's kind of both he's that, you know, content creator and and disc golfer. So he's kind of maybe not even part of the talks.
But what are your thoughts on the word influencer gets kind of overused, but what are your thoughts on that as far as how we have these content creators that are decent at disc golf, Some of them aren't that great at disc golf, but they're good at telling a story and creating content and that's what people consume. What are your thoughts on the balance of who influences people to buy particular discs?
I think people just want to, when they consume content, they just want to be entertained and they just want to relate to people. I think that's why we're seeing this weird shift right now with like pro disc golf and like you're saying, you, you have these again, influencers, I guess the word we'll use where so many people are like buying out all their discs, like they do a custom disc and it's like boom, they're gone. Or like some people are able to
make it their full time job. I think we're just, that's just kind of going to be the future of disc golf for now because you would see like some pros that maybe finished like 70th place and maybe they're do it like awesome people and they have like a cool contract, but maybe you're not really hearing much about it. So maybe investing your money in some of these content creators that are getting 10s to hundreds
of thousands of viewers. Way more people are going to be able to not only see their personality, but just like get a feel for who they are through every single video. And then they're they're rooting for that person, ideally after multiple things. Kind of a good example like you mentioned, Simon right now. So for another round, we brought Austin Turner down to or up to disk E rather. And he's kind of finding he's like, I love doing this YouTube
stuff. And it was very cool because I think a lot of people, they would look at him previously and just be like, I think like that guy's kind of a jerk or like they just didn't really know who he was. And now they're finding through the YouTube stuff that he is just one of the funniest people in disc golf, like bar none. And they would come up and just be gassing that dude up so many
times. And it was, it was the coolest thing ever to be because to a certain extent, like I'm kind of Austin Turner's personal editor at this point. Like all the stuff that I'm doing, like, like he made the, like top team for like his manufacturer. And it's like, it's a team effort, man. So yeah, it's it's cool to see, Yeah. That's cool. It is interesting to see and and the content marketing not I mean just not even disc golf in in
any industry. Content marketing is still looking to be a billion dollar business. More and more people are going to look less and less to the brands and more and more to people, authentic people actually using the product. Yeah. So yeah, it's just going to grow, get bigger and bigger. What what do you got going on as far as 2026? Is any big plans? You kind of said, you know, we talked about the YouTube long form and more storytelling. Anything else that you got going on as far as 2026?
We have a lot of very crazy things in 2026 that we're going to be doing that unfortunately I can't really talk about, but a lot of them are going to be content related for YouTube because like I said, that's the the big push for us right now and it's been a ton of fun. Something that I can talk about. I think I can share that we're going to be doing a podcast. Maybe I mentioned that at the top of this episode doing some
podcasts for another round. So keep keep an ear out for that is. There going to be like an on location type thing or? Well, that's, that's kind of the discussion right now. There's essentially 3 different podcasts that they want to do. And it's like, if I have three podcasts on top of what I'm currently doing, I, I'll end up in the hospital Guys like I, I don't think I could do it.
So it's kind of figuring out like what's a happy medium of like, what can we share all on a single platform, at least to start? Yeah. So, but yeah, working with some some pretty big people, some cool discs coming out and just excited to do more and more storytelling. What's something that you want anybody who watches you another round funsie or anything like what's something that maybe people don't understand what it takes to do all that? Maybe a misconception?
Bobby, you're asking, you're asking the good questions. So people, it always comes from a good place, but people will reach out on the another round account asking Joe if he wants to like yo, like let's just go play. And I don't know if people understand the level of work that is required to do all this, like all the content combined like it is. It's not even just a full time job. The fact that Joe did this before I even started helping him, I don't know.
I don't know how he it's just not possible. I want viewers and listeners to understand that. So maybe just like the workload, because obviously it's just us playing disc golf and that is cool and it's, we're all
incredibly grateful to do that. But you still got to stay consistent in the same way that like you work out or eat healthy, like mate, there will always be times that you don't want to do things, but you still, you go do it because at the end of the day, you do it and you're like, I'm so glad that I did that. And crazy things happen and you're like, man, I'm very proud of myself. Stay consistent. You see results, you it's always gratifying in one way or another.
So yeah, just stick with it. Yeah, I remember that, that people will say, you know, if you're ever in such and such, let's go play around. And I'm like, man, I'm in and out of that place because I have a job to do, right? So I don't have time to really go play, even though I appreciate it. And I'm with you. It's like every day you pinch yourself and you're like, my gosh, I get to do this thing with disc golf content and stuff like that. But then some days I'm like
5:00, I'm done. I'm out. Don't tell me, don't talk to you about disc golf. I'm going to go watch another episode of A Night of the Seven Kingdoms or something like that, you know, to get to get away. By the way, have you watched that The Night? Do you? Are you A Game of Thrones? Do you watch? That that is actually one of the big shows that at this point I've never seen and I feel like it's gone so long now that I haven't seen it.
I'm just going to, I'm kind of OK with sticking it out even though I love like sort of fantasy based content like that. It's. Pretty, I'm sure at some point. It's pretty intense and it's got some like a question like times. I'm like, really, should I be watching this? This is like eating me. But but it's good. It's good acting, good cinematography, good storytelling. Anyway, that was way off Change it. I only thought that because I literally watched an episode last night.
It was a good episode. My, my wife does a good job of like bringing me back to earth in the, the sense of like, I love TV's and movies, TV's and movies, TV and movies, but I just don't do it sometimes because I just end up working on whatever and it's like, hey, watch this and I'm like, I kind of fight it, but then I do it and I'm like, that was awesome. Like why was I being weird about taking the time to do this thing
that I enjoy? It's like video games like that was such a huge part of my childhood and very rarely do I find myself doing it nowadays. Do you have any influencers or content readers that you watch out outside of disc golf that kind of help give you ideas or just is entertaining for you? I don't know about give me ideas per SE, but YouTube that I enjoy because I feel like I mostly consume YouTube.
If anyone back to cooking, if anyone enjoys like Maddie Matheson guy is just like 45 year old. He used to have He was like a classically trained chef from Canada that had just covered in tattoos and got into like had a
lot of like problematic years. And now it's completely turned his life around just by cooking and putting out his his content on YouTube. And it's the coolest thing to watch this very loud personality and just doesn't care what people think, which I definitely pulled a lot of inspiration from other other YouTube that I consume like I watch. I would watch like Curtis Connor, I guess is one that I
would I did like a little bit. It's like a little too sound effects and like, whoa, that was crazy sort of stuff. But I I love it for what it is. I just feel like if I were to bring that over to another round, it'd be like a little too like crazy gimmicky. I'm sure I'm missing some, but those are the two that come to my come to mind, right?
Now do you have, do you have a Like sometimes I will take if I'm, if I'm at a certain point and I'm like, I don't want to start a new project until lunch or at the end of the day, I'll scroll purposely on TikTok looking for memes or trends. Do you often do that, or is it such part of what you do through the day that you find trends or good ideas?
Bobby, I am perpetually online and I feel like I have very good, I said good restrictions for myself of when to be on post and then just go away and work on other stuff. But it's impossible where it can field like this. If I do go on, it'll be funny enough. It's me finding like original audio or like cool music to use for another round. Like that's pretty much it. It's just like when I get on that part of the algorithm, we're just throwing me banger after banger.
I love that. Just save like 20 pieces of audio at a time. But no, not really like going through looking for ideas again, it's just like, what ideas do I come up with as we're doing content or I consume, obviously I consume disc golf content. So maybe someone puts out a video and I'm like, man, great video, but I wish they did this. So it's like, maybe I'll explore that in the future. Yeah, OK. Another bounce around question. So for me, you know, I, I am Dynamic Discs, right?
And so they really want me to concentrate on Dynamic Discs, which is fantastic. It's great, right?
I can have an endless supply, but when I was able to do all well, I'm not able to. But when my job was to do the other three brands as well, I found that a little bit easier to come up with different ideas and always having things going on. So my question is with you being another round and being able to touch any brand you want to, it feels like that's like, is it too much to cover or is that good for you? Does that make sense? In other words, you, you probably have releases all the
time with from all the brands. How do you work? Yeah. How do you work through that? Oh, this is a perfect example of a question that I've just done it, but I haven't actually thought about what the process is. Yeah, I I would say overall it's
a net positive. Like I love there are manufacturers that we know are popular and a lot of times that's what a lot of people are going to want to go off go after and see content of. But sometimes being able to do content for some of the other brands, it's like, it's a sigh of relief. Like it's, it's very refreshing to go and see like a different brand sometimes to see how they fly and go back to your roots. And that's nice. So I I wouldn't consider that balance like a tricky part.
You always want to, you know, being another round at the end of the day, another round is like a business that is trying to sell frisbees. So maybe there are some ideas that are like, that would be so cool to do. We could never do it because like we have a certain framework that we kind of have to work around.
Right. But no, I I don't get overwhelmed by at this point, I think starting out, like I said, I, I for sure did, but now it's gotten into a little bit more of a like a rhythm as a calendar that shows when certain deadlines have to be done by and I just, I just get it done. Nice, All right, Nate, well, I appreciate you coming on the show and I enjoyed learning more about you for sure.
I would love to have you on like like I would want to see six months from now after we go through a whole disc offseason of, you know, the tournaments and busyness and check up on how you're doing with the podcast. Because I'm, I've been doing that with people saying, hey, in six months, let's check back in, see where we're at, see if things have changed. I think people will love following that journey. So I'd love to have you back on. But I did enjoy learning more
about your stuff. I know that obviously people know if they want to see more of your stuff, go follow another round. And I notice you do a lot of disc golf stuff on your own account. So I'm assuming you want love people to check that out as well. What what the on Instagram or YouTube? Do you have your own YouTube channel or is another round kind of your outlet for YouTube?
I used to make like a lot of content personally, I did like a couple of videos on YouTube, but I'm I'm not going to be doing anything there for the foreseeable future. They're welcome to follow me on Instagram because I do post funny stuff on my story and I will post occasionally there, but it's the majority of my time and creative energy for sure goes towards another round. So make sure to go there. You can yeah, follow us on Instagram, go to our YouTube,
check that stuff out. Maybe you enjoy it. And yeah, just appreciate all the people that have reached out over the last year or so and gassed me up and just been guiding me in the right direction. I love it. That's fantastic. Well, I, I tell people all the time, being a person that started media, got into disc golf and have been able to do a job I love. I it tickles me to death to watch you young guys fall into this as well to be able to do something you love. So I think it's fantastic.
So keep up the great work dude. And I know this won't be the last time you and I connect. I'm sure we'll be working together in the future projects as well. Bobby, I actually wanted to ask you a question. Oh, that's right. I have, I forgot that segment. Yes, OK. So this is the part where.
I got you you. Get to ask me anything you want and I will answer it. I was curious from your perspective, like what do you, what do you want people to take away from Dynamic Discs like you traditionally? I know people have said that you guys kind of catered to more of like a recreational audience. You had things and like I remember the era of Dynamic discs putting out like like that was pretty much disc golf YouTube back in like 2021, that
sort of time frame. Kyle, like one of the Co owners of another round was on team dynamic and he would talk about glass blown open back in the day and just what a crazy event it was and it would just bring all these people together. So what do you what type of narrative are you trying to have people walk away with, or what do you want people to understand about the brand? I I want to and it's always been this way. This has always been my
approach. I want to be the guy that like it's a, it's a Saturday or it's a Friday night and you're like Saturday is going to be a gorgeous day. Let's go play some disc golf. Let's not worry about let we can keep scores if you want to, but I'm not going to keep score. I just want to get out there and I want to shoot really well. I want to try that new disc I just picked up and I just want
to have a good time. I want to be the guys that you want to do that with and just go play around a disc golf. And yeah, so if you're if you're like, but I want to GoPro, fine. We've got great products to help you GoPro. I'll help you along the way. See if I can get you some great discs to help you GoPro. But really, I just want to be the guys that you want to hang out and have a good time with.
That's awesome. I mean, that's we're kind of the same in that regard then, because it's exactly that's what I want out of disc golf. And I know a lot of people are super into the competitive scene and it's just never, it's just never really done anything for me.
It's like those, like I said at the top, just those summer nights that I can go out and hang out with like my wife or my father-in-law, my my buddies and just be able to go play like late Friday night at Maple Hill. At least that's what it used to be before I moved down here. But yeah, just that's just how I got enjoyment from the sport trying to.
Do this. Yeah. When I can go play around with my grandson and my granddaughter and we're just out throwing discs and my grandson's like bombing it, killing it, Right. 17 year old kid and he's bombing it. Let's go. Yeah. My granddaughter can't hardly throw, but she's laughing every time we throw. I'm like, this is, this is disc golf to me. This is, this is fun, right? Or, or I'm hanging out with my buddy Braxton. We go play around and we're just
talking about life. You know, he's going to get married and life and stuff. That's I'm hanging out with my Bros, right? But we just happen to be doing some disc golfing and I, I think that's fantastic. And that's what I want people to see Dynamic Discs as. Yeah, it's like a similar Ave. as it's like people when you eat or like sit down and have dinner together, it's like, oh, everyone like shares their day. I feel like disc golf does the
same thing. Like you all finally have an Ave. to be able to like connect with your friends and you're like, talk about meaningful things. So yeah. And when that one guy has that fantastic shot and it's just like high 5, you know, like, oh dude, it almost went in and hit the cage. Oh my God. Oh, you know, that whole feeling, it's like, dude, and I mean, I don't mean to get warm and fuzzy, but that's like, that's a moment, man. You've got that moment with that group.
So next time you go play that course, you're like, dude, member hole 5, you threw that motive and you were like, right? And it was, man, remember that. Let's see if you can do it again. I mean, those are the moments I live for. Yeah, we act like it's cheesy, but us throwing a good shot is the reason that we go back out there again, because you're like, Oh yeah, brother, I need to do that again right now. That's it. That's why I got to play this again next weekend. Thank you. Yeah, no.
Any other questions? No, that'll do it for me. No, I appreciate you having me on it. Was a lot of fun appreciate it Yeah, absolutely. We'll have you on again for sure. So all right, I'll let you get back to your day, but I appreciate it again for being on the show of. Course, yeah, later, everyone all. Right. Take care.