#32 - 🇬🇧 Steve McQueen on 'Widows', being a globalist, failure & Zwarte Piet

Welcome everyone to the first episode of Season 4! It's been a long time since we left you without dope podcasts to listen to! We are hosting this episode in English because of our guest Steve McQueen, who talked to us about his latest terrific heist movie with a stellar cast WIDOWS.

Steve McQueen is a multi-award winning visual artist (Bear, Cold Breath, Deadpan, End Credits), screenwriter, producer and film director (Hunger, Shame). He is the first black director to win an oscar for Best Picture for 12 Years a Slave. His latest movie which came out in November is a classic heist movie but also a multi-layered socially conscious thriller where class, race, politics & gender intersect.

We discussed why he decided to situate the remake of the 80’s British mini-series Widows (adapted from book by crime writer Lynda La Plante) in Chicago; U.S. critics and their issues with him being a British director telling American stories and why Americans - if they can afford it - should get a passport. He also talked about being a globalist; life in The Netherlands; transcending your predicament through your imagination; the politics of translations in the Netherlands and last but not least the bane of our Dutch existence, Zwarte Piet.

Furthermore we talk about what we binged on lately, the books we read, the shows we attended. Why we are openly sighing and swooning at the mere mention of D'Angelo & Sade… He also has a word of wisdom for young women of colour and all women in general.

We also tried to subject Steve McQueen to our final segment DDD’s but… well... listen all the way till the end and find out!

Some of the things we discussed

• McQueen recommends the definitive Andy Warhol exhibition
• Sally Field's life In Pieces'
• Truely, deeply, obsessively in love with him
• Why Do People Still Watch 'Grey's Anatomy'?
• 'Men are a little bit tone deaf...'
• 50 Cent, yes Fiddy
• Sade for ever and ever, amen!
• If you loved Widows, you'll love this classic!

Also...

• Surely cutest thing you've ever seen!
• What's Beef is still the 🐐but What's Free will do
• Everything is💩
• Uhumm... the Insect Apocalypse is here
• The Best Something or Other listicle is nigh
• Social Media REALLY sucks, but we knew this...
• Remember to dust yourself off and try again

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