Love, Loss & Lessons: A Journey Through Our 20s | 008

About one month after? Oh my gosh, Bash, you didn't respect the three month rule. Did you know that? Did you know that? What do you mean, Bash? Bash. The Dinkwap Show. So, my swing from being a good boy to... It's so far. It's so far. It's so far. Your character development is a bit... It's a bit... It's not... because life is not linear. I thought life is not career. The Dinkwap Show. I said, I'm not really going to date. I said, Tremont, I respect you. Yes, I respect you.

Because as a John Lloyd fan, I know that. But it's enough. It's enough. No 10. No 10. Straight to the face. the dinkwap show dual income no kids with a podcast welcome to the des show this is for this yes yes and uh we are your hosts and their only friend and this is her episode and my dedicated to to all the boys to all the boys that's dated during her 20s early 20s We chose Des because she's so cute. Des will tell us about dating in her early 20s. Alright. Alright, go. So after college.

After the serious boyfriend. Yes. So of course, she became my boyfriend for a couple of years. But after that, I started dating right away. Right away? What do you mean right away? It's good. About one month after. You didn't respect the 3-month rule. Did you know that? Did you know that? You're only one month old. To be fair, he was so broken. He was so broken hearted. Because in the early 20s, you were from college and you were meeting people. And then all of a sudden, he was suddenly serious.

As in, hello, 21 years old, 22. He was already on a marriage path.

As in that time, we were talking about getting married, we were talking about getting our own place. That was the level. And then we broke up. So after that, I felt so lost. Why did you break up? He cheated. Oh, that's it? He's the one who's very serious and then he cheated. He's also a big shot. He wanted to get me married, we were looking for a house and then a girl. So he cheated. That's how it is, guys. Guys, right? So now you know the truth. Des is not the one who has a problem.

I'm not the red flag here, guys. That was back then. So after that, I felt so lost. They were with Alvia. So you were always with them? Yes. Literally. After I moved to another place. I was with Alvia the whole time. And then, I met some people. I started dating right away. I went out, I met this guy. How did you meet them? Parties. Parties. Okay. Or sometimes, not parties, events. or sometimes for literal toha coffee shop Mila lappin

okay not even Cassidy by you Eva auto to endemic on the mid-june parties pero for some reason Cassidy by a party third third party after party but most of the guys I met back then as in they asked me out for date dinner to get to know each other. Serious? - In fairness, I don't know why. You look serious. - What brand do you smell? I smelled Calvin Klein. Mature. And it was my ex's gift. That's why. So I afford it. - Afford. So I went out right away after that.

I was just very open to meeting a lot of people. I felt so lost. Where do I start? You had a plan and it just disappeared. Yes, I was seriously settling down. But you really bought in. Yes, I resigned. Because he's ready to be a housewife. I resigned from my job. I was still with him when he was in the grocery store with his wife and driver. I couldn't go out without the help of the driver. I was the first driver because I was also a safety person. I hung out with my family.

I stayed at his house. It was serious. You were together for a long time, right? Two years plus. I was with him for the dating period. Since college, I was with him for three years. It was a long time. I started dating right away. I met a lot of people. But I felt like one of the reasons why I really entertained those guys is because I was lost. I didn't know where to start. I didn't even know what I really wanted at this point. I was just really open. "Okay, ask me out." Okay, fine.

And Alvia said the truth. Sometimes, even if you don't like the guy, We're both on the same stage. It's like, "Hey, someone asked me out but it's not that cute." - I think he's okay with it. - Yes. I have a friend like that. Legit. I met him randomly. We were about to go home. They were just waiting for a taxi. A couple of guys and us, the girls, were waiting for a taxi. I was just talking to them. And then, he gave me his business card. Wow. - He's my... It's trippy.

It's because he's working but he's not very old. Maybe 3 or 4 years older than me. But of course, there's a business card. It's a reputable company. Calling card, okay. So he gave it to me. I didn't give it to him, I gave him a business card. Because I have a business card and I'm working. So he contacted me the following day. Then he asked me out. I was like, "I'm not that type but the restaurant is delicious." - Game! See? See? Yes. We can't afford to eat there. It's expensive.

But I guess you're still exploring. So we really didn't know each other. - We didn't know each other. We didn't know what we wanted to do in life. - We didn't. So I was really open. I dated Filipinos, there were... Not Filipinos. - Not Filipinos. There were more non -Filipinos. So I guess also because of my line of job in our company, I meet more of them. It's so different. But one of... I was telling Alvia, one of the guys who really attacked me, there's this Italian guy.

Very romantic and very gentleman. And this guy, we went out at least five times. But we didn't kiss. And the last day… For an Italian? Right? Very gentleman,

we didn't kiss. I think he didn't leave the Philippines because he moved. Because of his job. He's an expat. If he didn't move to another country, I think we have a chance. Because he's so gentleman. And he mentioned our parting kiss. He kissed my hand. Oh my God! That's sweet. Then I said, "Marin, and then our first date." He was like, "Can we meet at my place and then we go to the restaurant after?" I was like, my office was near by, on the way. It was his house. Because I worked in Pasay.

Then his house was in Makati. Then I lived in Mundaluyong. So technically, he wasn't a hassle for me. "Okay, meet us at your house." So we met at his house. When I arrived at his house, we just had wine. Like one glass of wine, then we went out. But the pool had petals. We didn't use the pool, guys. But there's a time. - Just relax. He really set the mood. PG-13. - Just relax. PG -13, I promise. It's so romantic. There's candles and petals in the pool. Do you want to hear his story and mine?

The one without the story. Oh, right. I told you that I dated a lot of people before. But I'll tell you later why I'm like this. But one of the guys who talked to me a lot. And then, we were in the same house. And he never tried to kiss me. It was just like that. I was also told by Alvia earlier that there's this guy that I just met because the restaurant was good. Then after that, Oh, it's him. Yes, it's weird. Okay, first time we went out. This is not the Italian guy. It's not Italian.

Reveal. This is Korean. This Korean guy. We met him while waiting for a taxi. So... First dinner, he was okay. He was friendly. So when he asked me out, I said, "Okay, let's go out." But it's weird because the moment was so intense. After we had dinner, he took me to my house. But before I went downstairs, he kissed me on the face.

I pushed him and said, "Sorry." - You guys don't look like that anymore. No, that's it. I guess your first kiss would happen when there's a moment and a mutual deeper feelings. So, after that, I didn't reply to him anymore. Because I was like, "I'm creepy." Like that? Literally, right? For example, I was like this. I said, "Okay, okay, bye-bye." And before I went down, my neck was already torn. He was like this. And then he came up to me. And then he was like this.

When he was like that, I was like, "Aww." Of course, you were like that. Yes. So, after that, I didn't reply to him. But then, yeah. The Italian guy. They're the opposite. Aren't Koreans conservative? Yes, but I'm not. Maybe not that Korean. They're not conservative, by the way. Really? - Yeah, they're not. I was in Korea last year. No, they're very expressive. Oh, okay. - When it comes to someone they like. And especially when it comes to couples.

When they're a couple, as in, they don't care about PDA and everything. I feel like they're conservative in a way. If you're not couples. Because there are a lot of hookups. Yes. I don't know. They're not like that. Anyway, we're not Korean. We don't know. But at least in my experience, it's like that. It's creepy, sorry. I'm thinking about the North Koreans. What are you talking about? South. South-Thai. By the way, South Korean from Seoul.

So the best date in your early 20s, X aside, was the Italian guy. And the worst was that Korean guy. Was that Korean guy! He looked like a coward. Right? I was scared. He was in a bad mood. He didn't have that kind of mood. I mean, I was scared of him. I didn't reply to him after. But he wanted to meet again. And he's like... You're getting to know each other. He's already telling stories about his mom. It was that fast. It was like, "Wait, maybe there's no spark." - Yeah. There was no spark.

And I didn't type it. It's not like... - The restaurant was delicious. It was delicious. - The taste was good. And that time, it was... - It was expensive. It was expensive. And then... Guys, we really started from the bottom. We started from eating. Survival. Yeah, so of course, there's that. Of course, he'll say, "Let's go to this place. I want to bring you to this place." Okay, free meal. I told you, I only have my present, my bag. Because my clothes and makeup came from my sister.

And the dinner. We're not even sponsored. I'll still follow. So it's like that. And also, when I was in my early 20s, I didn't get rejected on dates. Me too. Yeah. You got rejected on everything? We got rejected on everything. Even if I didn't want to. Like, okay. Number one. For me, physical attraction is very important. Of course. - Don't get confused. Physical attraction is subjective. You know if the person is smart or kind. - True. And the card, you know the ones who work there are smart.

And the ones I meet are more reputable. I guess because of my job before. So let's not drop where he works. But that's how it is. The companies are quite high. So you know, they're smart. And of course, if you're talking to them, It's okay. There's something cool. I don't talk to them. Oh, no. In fairness, I don't talk to them when I'm not talking to them. So they don't reach the point. No chance. Maybe there's a chance. I don't know. I'm a little shy.

I kept up with my life. Especially during my early twenties when I was talking a lot. I had a lot of opinions in life. I'm so tired now. When they argue, I'm so tired. Now, when I argue, I'm okay. I'll just watch K-drama. I'll go home. But before, I felt like I was very open to anything. And coming from my ex -relationship, I was so lost. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what I want. So literally, I said, "Let's go out." And there were so many.

I said, "I want to talk to you about this." Because literally, you can color the map. There were only half of the world map. But yeah, you met this person. There's news that the first Filipina who went to the Philippines... She was able to date all the nationalities. Not all of them. But you can color the map. It's a bit confusing. But yeah. It's conquest. Yeah. Because I was more open. It's not just because of the nationality. But if you can talk to someone, I'm so easy.

You have a lot of energy. I feel like my English is not that good. No choice because my ex-boyfriend is from Norway. We only speak English at home. We're trained. So, I guess, yeah. Line of job. We work in English. Because of events. Yeah, events. So, let's move on to dating in our late 20s. How about you? I still haven't dated anyone. No, I have some... You don't want to tell the truth? You want to be clean? Actually, when did I really look like that? I was 30s when I was... Your ex?

Yes, I was 30s. Really? Yes, I was 30s. My math was wrong. I don't know. Age reveal. No, you were 20s then. No. Are you sure? No, really. I know it's not. I know it's not. Let's just say it. Later, I'll tell you my computation. I didn't tell you earlier what my pet name is. I don't want to say it. Mine? We're already laughing at your "mine". That's it. I'm done. I'm not going to lie to you anymore. Why did I do that? I'm laughing. Okay, let's just say this. Late 20s to early 30s is fine.

We're already maturing. Yes, seriously. I got a headache from drinking that. Actually, my ex was in my early 20s. Like the serious one. I'm so fast, by the way. That's her problem. So let's not talk about age. We were serious. Party age/dating around except Rem. He didn't really. So let's talk about going to our serious mature. I guess, it's narrowed down. Yes, so you go first. Before us. I don't know if I should tell this. How did I start?

You said it's serious. It's serious. I don't want to. It's hard for me to follow the line. Anyway, the next chapter. Yeah. Because... I don't want to tell the truth. There's nothing left. She's really stubborn. I'm scared. We met each other because she has a boyfriend. I told you. I told all her friends. But her boyfriend is abroad. It's like... Let's just keep this a bit longer. It hurts when you're in a relationship. I'm going crazy. It hurts when you're in a relationship.

You want to hold my hand. I'm smiling. I was the one who was pitiful. Now, you're the one who's going to be the one to be beaten. I'm telling you, I'm telling people, I'm not an angel. I'm a lot of crazy people. So, that's really it. The craziest thing I did to you. The craziest? Yes, the craziest. We had a hook up. She has a boyfriend. She has a boyfriend. Oh my. Eventually, we became one. So... He's so nervous! I can see it in his eyes. My eyes are already opening.

If you know the setup of our house here, What is this? It's a ledge. So they can hug me. And we're two here, we can even hug him. But I'm a reformed Christian. You guys became one. You've been together for a long time. But coming from that, that was your foundation. I really feel like I'm being criticized. But that was your first relationship. Coming from being a fool. Sad boy in a jeep. My swing from being a good boy to being a good boy. It's so far. The character development is a bit weird.

Because life is not linear. I thought life is not career. Beanie. Let's admit it, I started my career wrong. Career? As a boyfriend? So you became a boyfriend? No, we just hook up. We became a couple when they were gone. Okay, go on. You're not being judged, why are you continuing? What are they saying? We listen, we don't judge? Huh? We listen, we don't judge. Sorry, we're the judges. We listen and we judge. It's okay because I admit it. We don't listen, we just judge.

Let's go straight to judge. There's no justification for actions and decisions. From what my best friend expected. From what my best friend expected. Your revenge was different. How did you meet him? Again, I'm a vlogger. He commented. He met you? Yes, you met each other in a vlog. Online. We live in a different era. I know, right? There's a circle of vloggers. Guys, vlog, not vlog. They also call it vlogosphere. Oh my god. What was that? By the way, it's not mispronounced. It's really blog.

Not vlog. B for boy. Blog. That was the time that people type. Yes. And people read that for the children. So before being a vlogger, Rem. Before the content creator era, we were already creating content. So, I was a bit used to fighting on the internet. So, I helped you guys fight on the internet. That's right. So, that's when I met her. Eventually, we met. It's okay. Is that the thought process? Actually, it's not like that. You didn't even ask. Because you were just hit. Everyone says that.

You were just hit. Bye, Des. Good night. Bye-bye. You know, there's an attraction. Then you gave in. Alright. We just met. We just met. We just met. The relationship was founded on something that's not right. So it never really worked out.

How long were you together? It was a long time. Five? I don't know. I don't count. I don't count. I know how long it was. But I can't say. It's good that LV and I have an easy memory. We're just trying to not have a I don't know. There's that ghost. Yeah, because it's possible. For me, I don't care. I don't believe in that. You're just chill. I'm just chill. But you just had to go. But what happened was, towards the end of our relationship, I feel like he's paranoid.

It feels like he fulfilled his... Self-fulfilling prophecy. He's entertaining other guys. Because they're already shaky. Yeah, they're shaky. So I said, "Let's end this." For me, it's okay. The separation is okay. Mutual. But apparently, for him, it's not. So, not sure. For me, when it's over, it's over. Because I already learned from my first... Your best friend. My best friend. That has a pet name that she doesn't want to say. She's the one who made me feel like I'm really her.

In the relationship, moving forward. But it's always like that. It's true. Who's the most painful? You'll really get traumatized. So I said, if there are people we say we're dating and then I know it's over, it's really over. Clean break. We don't have anything to talk about. I don't even know if we have a best friend. We don't have one. Yes. We don't believe anything. We don't believe anything. I told her that it's true. It's true. She said that it's true.

I have a best friend and I also denated her. And she has a girlfriend. I know that. And I found out that she gave me a cell phone. It's kind of... It's stupid. I don't know. I don't think about it. Okay. That's why I said that there will be things like that in LV. I was in my early 20s. That was that era. I don't accept just friends. If it's just friends, then let's not talk about it. If there's an attraction. We're done. We have a lot of friends.

True. Despite being an introvert, I have a lot of friends. In fairness to you. Good job. Okay. Is there anything else you want to tell about your relationship? I have stories about her but I don't care anymore. It's already the end. Okay. For me, I still have a boyfriend before Rem. And then, he's serious. It's very serious. I told him that I should be serious the next time we're dating. The reason is not the least. And one of the reasons why is because he's so nice. He's so nice.

Of course, you know all of those. Yes. But despite that, he was still a cheater. True. - You were so nice! You were so nice. You were so nice. You didn't even think about it. - I think because there were... There were people who were really nice to me back then. But I feel like it was just short-term superficial stuff. So I thought he was the most sincere. I told him, "This is not nice. I won't lie to him. This is serious." I was scared because he was so serious. But he was so kind.

I felt that way too. Yes! And I was shocked. He was so kind for my sake. But he was so nice. Very kind. Very kind. Very kind. You're so tall. And it's funny that we're both in the same age. Right? We were in a relationship. You're a big person. - You're a big person. You're a big person. He had a girlfriend then. Then I had a boyfriend. Then we were... We were friends. Yeah. - He was a good friend. You know you're friends. Yeah. We met. - Yeah. Then... We were being issued.

They said we were the ones who cheated on our partners. Guys, I'm a witness. Not because they're my friends. They didn't cheat on you. As in... As in... They're so tall. As in, it's not that bad. As in, it's not that bad. Of course, the cheese mist reached us and I didn't mind. Because they broke up first. And then we broke up a few months later. No one knew. Because it was really annoying. Because everyone felt like we were cheating. But it's not like that. It's really gone.

And we have a relationship. It was clear to us that we were going out with our partners. I don't know if people were bored. We were still chismised. Especially in the company. Especially you. You have a lot of company. Even the guards know. The boss secretaries. It was like we had an anti-poll. We were friends, we went to carpools, we went to shuttle. But we didn't really have any partners. But whatever, if someone said that, we'll say it. But we had a 3-month rule.

When my ex broke up with me, I said I won't date. I said 3 months. He respected that. I'm a fan of John Lloyd. I know that. Noted. Just right. After the three-man rule. I was like, "No more!" Straight to the face. As in, there's an alarm clock. "This is the day!" You know what they do in the calendar? But that's it. I remember that. No, there was just a mate. I was heartbroken then. Rem was already showing off. But he was respectful because I was grieving. Yeah. But... On the dot.

Yes. But because... You woke up that day. This is me again. I was so proud. I don't want people to think that we broke up. We didn't break up, we broke up. People said that we broke up with our partners to become friends. I was like, "No, that's not true." But I know that there's something. I'm really proud. I thought, "What did I just prove?" - It's true. - Right? We have an audience. - True.

So I got over it. I was transparent. It's also good because we were friends who have no filter. Yeah. We were very honest. I said, "I just need time." Because as John said, "I need control." - "To be followed." To be followed. So... If you won't tell me, I'll tell you. Yeah. Wow. -Excuse me? -JLC! -That's what happened, right? -JLC! -Excuse me? -I'm a witness, I'm a mind-scorer. Excuse me? That was just between us. -It was between us. -Yeah, between us. But yeah, it was...

Like I said before, I even danced with him. It was like, I'm done dating, I don't want to anymore. Then... You know what? He really went into it. You know what? Smooth transition. That's just for us. You were also given a free ride by Rim. Yes. Do you remember? That's what I introduced to you. That's my story. Wait, let's finish this episode. Let's just do the next episode. Let's just continue with the next episode. Can we still do it, guys? It's too long. No, it's okay. Alright. See you.

Thank you for listening for another episode of... What's the name of the podcast? The Deswap Show. And see you next time. Thank you. Bye! You were listening to The Dinkwap Show.