¶ Digital Nomad Updates and Insights
Hey Nomads , welcome to a new episode . Today you get both of your co-hosts here .
I'm here with Kendra and we wanted to record , well , kind of an update where I will interview Kendra and we'll just want to , yeah , give you an update on what's going on from Kendra's side because , like last time we spoke together and we spoke about her story has been , I think , about two years ago since we recorded something like this and then she had done
some solo episodes and updates that way . So we'll make sure to link those in the show notes . But today we just kind of wanted to talk about what's new from her side and her digital nomad life , what she's been working on , what she's working on now .
And , yeah , I just update you on what's going on because , you know , the cool thing about nomad life is , I think for many people it's always changing and you can always make changes to your life relatively easily because of the freedom , and I know that Kendra always does cool , cool things .
So , yeah , I usually say Kendra , welcome to the show , but you know , like this is your show as well .
So , hi , hi , so nice to be here , like on the other side . No , I'm super excited yeah yeah , it's super cool awesome .
So can you share a little bit more , maybe , where you are now , and then we'll go back to kind of like what we miss in Canva's life . But can you you paint the picture of where you are right now ?
Right now I'm sitting in the living room of my mom's place , imagine in Germany . But I'm just here for a little holiday , saying hello to all my friends , family , and then on Friday , in a couple of days , I'm going to Bali . So my first time not nomading in Latin America . So for the first time I will go to Southeast Asia . So yeah , exciting .
Yeah . Have you been to Southeast Asia before ? Like traveling , I think you did right .
Yeah , like when I was still like working , like when I had my three weeks of holidays , I went to Thailand and Vietnam . I also enjoyed it a lot . And yeah , bali was , to be honest , never on my list because I always was thinking everyone is going to Bali , I want to find , like , new places and I was I'm still so passionate about Latin America .
But you know , I'm always following my heart . In the last years and now my heart just told me go to Bali . So I'm going there without any plan , without any expectations , just seeing with what life wants to surprise me yeah , I love it .
So you're going with a one-way ticket , or do you already have your next ticket as well ?
I'm going kind of with a one-way ticket , so now we will like I will start there in July and I would like to be in November in Mexico again in Masunte . That would be amazing . But if I like Bali so much , if I really love it there , I stay longer .
If I really don't like it , I go maybe earlier to Mexico or do another stop where , wherever , but I could stay , if I want , until November .
Okay , cool , that's very exciting . And yeah , new continent for Nomading Unlocked . What do you know if you like it or if you don't like it ? And that's also good info to have , I guess . So what else is new on your end ? What are you ? What have you been working on ?
So I think the last time we started I was on my journey on building retreats in Colombia , right to inspire people to connect to their heart , and this heart connection is still like the core of my business building , of my digital nomad lifestyle , of my digital nomad path , of all .
It's like this , my focus , my core , but this I was growing more and more into finding my niche of what I really wanted , but I wasn't the beginning of brave enough to talk about . It's about like mentoring and supporting people , individuals who are suffering from emotional eating , overeating , like on their recovery from binge eating and bulimia .
So there's challenges we have , because that was my story . And then I was like finding ways , like through connecting to my heart , on how to heal it . And now I'm more like I do online coaching . So my business now is online and offline .
In the beginning I was more doing offline events wherever I was , but I also learned , as I want really to be a digital nomad , that it's hard to build like an offline community if you're just staying a couple of months . So I'm like now , wherever I am , I love to host offline events , but I'm more and more growing into the online world .
So I have my monthly online woman circle on emotional eating and I have clients and I'm thinking about . I haven't done it yet . I would love to hear maybe , if some of the listeners would like it reach out , like off online retreats . So maybe some hours together and if not , maybe I still for sure will go on with my offline retreats .
That's so interesting that you're moving a little bit more from offline to online , because I'm doing exactly the opposite . I think I still have my online business and you know most of my work is online , but then I have started here in Valencia , an offline community , started here in Valencia an offline community Together with my friend Dan .
We started a Slack channel and weekly meetups and we want to do more offline events and I've been really enjoying it . It's not really it's not a business like yet , or maybe it won't ever be a business For now .
It's really a passion project , but I've been so , so enjoying , yeah , just having offline connections even more , uh , through , you know , in that in that way , and hosting events .
So I think it's just so interesting that we're going like exactly opposite ways , but it also makes me think , you know , maybe , well , actually , probably both are really important and probably it's really good to have both as a nomad right , not only offline , because you want that consistency in work , but then also not only online , because you know offline connections
are important .
And , to be honest , I prefer offline . I love the offline events way more than the online , more than the online . It's just that if I want to grow my business and make clients grow community , then it's hard if I'm like in three different countries per year .
But , like , the dream goal is that , like the online , community is so diverse , because now it's so beautiful , we are like connecting with women from from the entire globe , basically know I always try to sweep the time zone of every continent .
So then in my head , like when I go to those places where people are , they also join the offline events , and then someone from the offline events maybe then come to the online and we are back . So it's like a little bit learning , like failure , experiencing what's working , what's not working .
Yeah , I like that . I think what I'm also hearing like the consistency is important in building your business .
So then you know , if you choose to not be in a location for a while , then having that online component makes it possible to stay consistent and stay top of mind for people and then when you go back , these people are still there and they still know about you . You're still connected and then that makes it easier to do those offline things as well .
I think what you're telling now .
Yeah , and also because I got , like in the last years , really also clarity on the tools and techniques I'm using , you know , like journaling , meditation , ecstatic dance or conscious dance and the . So the coaching , the one-on-ones you easily can do online .
But then , like now , my new passion is become an ecstatic dance dj , or I love to say like conscious dance , but people know better ecstatic dance .
So I really want to create this dance where you invite your heart to the dance floor and you dance really with your heart and by activating your body , you get all the answers from within , and then obviously it's more beautiful to dance with a lot of people together to share this connection . So those are more the events .
I will do more offline , you know , like , then it also depends on what we want to do . Journaling , you , I can do online and offline . They are both like great ways .
So basically all the events I'm hosting contain this elements of a meditation to her heart , journaling with our heart to have this dialogue , and then either we finish with a dance or not yeah , yeah , I like that absolutely .
And does this also have any implications for your travel plans ? Like does that mean that you feel like you can travel now to Bali because of this online component ? Or , like this Do you feel like it gives you more freedom ?
Right . So because I can handle it like it's just for me , like now I have a client who's living in Columbia , so then the time zone maybe was Bali , so but I'm then saying , okay , it's my responsibility , so I don't mind to stay , like to go to bed later and do the coaching for me in the late evening , so it fits with her time zone still .
But then the other thing is great and I also plan now my locations a little bit on the offline season . So that's why I want to go to Masund in Mexico , like Puerto Escondido , that area again in November , because they are the high season for all those conscious events is November till March .
That's a little bit okay .
And now there's like the time in Bali where it's a high season where I can do a little bit the events . So this gives me a little bit structure in my traveling plans exactly .
Oh , that makes a lot of sense . Yeah , and I think you know that structure and you know seeing those opportunities . It's really smart because you know if you have so much freedom to go wherever you want , then the question is like what do you want ? Where do you have so much freedom to go wherever you want ? Then the question is like what do you want ?
Where do you go ? Right , there's so many options . So I think you know making a super conscious decision that way like , ok , well , this is what I want to focus on and this is the best location for that in this season . So then that's where I go . I think that's really cool .
Yeah , yeah . So , little by little , I'm building this path of finding my locations . It will always be Colombia , for sure , and I think I left Mexico . I was there for the last month . Yeah , let's see , spain is still on top of my list for next year Detroit .
Yeah , yeah , exactly yeah , so Spain is now my main base . Yeah , yeah , I decided to spend most of my year , especially this year , but also going forward like most of my year in Spain , so nice . What did you like about Mexico and how is Mexico different from Colombia ? Like , I have been to Colombia , but I haven't been to Mexico yet .
So , like , can you share a little bit more about like what you like about the differences in the country and like why , why it works so well for you to have both as a location ?
so I think me over the last years as being a nomad .
I understood more and more that I find my power and that I'm really connecting to my heart when I can swim every morning in the ocean , so this jump into the sea and then this is what I'm missing in Colombia , because I'm usually in Medellin , and that's amazing when I want to be with other digital nomads , entrepreneurs , because by the coast it's like a little
bit more difficult to live
¶ Exploring Conscious Communities as Digital Nomads
. The internet connection , you know , it's like they're like more hostels , hotels , but not this nice community and this is what I found in Mexico , so directly by the BJF is conscious community of activities I just enjoyed . I need for I organize , I host , but also I enjoy participating to go on on my personal development journey and my healing journey .
So there's ecstatic dances , yoga , kirtan , a woman's circle , all of this and in masund , in mexico , in oaxaca , it's like one hour from puerto escondido . I think puerto escondido is it's more this hub for digital nomads . And then you have masund , where it's also now a good internet connection and I have the ocean where and all these conscious events .
So now that's also a reason I go to Bali , because now my mind is like what is like a place I can go to , where I can combine being in a conscious community and having my jump into the ocean , and it does not need to be like on a daily basis .
But this is a little bit what's guiding me and that's also like the difference from for me , from Colombia and Mexico . So when I talk about Mexico , I really just talk about Masund . I haven't been like Tulum will be like a different place , mexico City also .
So if we talk about Oaxaca , like Masund is there , it's for me this being really in my conscious community bubble , and then but I I love the balance , you know , then I need to be another month . I really need to focus more than on my business . Again , I need to be more like , I want to be surrounded more by entrepreneurs , by business people .
Then I go to Medellin , and then Medellin . I also have the dancing . You know I love bachata salsa . This I couldn't find like in Mexico , so who knows if in some point I find the city who combines all of it . If you know it , please let me know . But until now , it's also nice to have , like , someone's there , someone's there .
I mean I do know the city , you know I'm living in it . So that's literally the reason why I mean I obviously have slightly different interests to yours , but I mean that's what I found in valencia , where I came here , and I was like this city has most to all the things I want in a place . So then there was no reason really to leave anymore .
So then I was like like okay well , it looks like we're staying .
And I feel I will end up in Valencia or Barcelona because I think it's really combining everything . But there's still within me , like this drive , this motivation on keep on a little bit more and traveling , discovering new places . So I feel I need it , because I didn't plan to become a digital nomad .
For me it was always I moved to Colombia , I studied in Colombia and then I , like , when I quit my job in Germany and became and yeah , I wanted to build my retail business in Colombia , but it was in Colombia where I met so many digital nomads that I was like , wait a minute , this is also like super interesting and cool , but I needed some months , or
maybe even a year , to fully arrive , or , until now , like to fully arrive in this lifestyle , to feel comfortable , because there are also so many things that are not so easy .
And now I feel it's , now I'm in my comfort zone again and now I want to explore it a little bit more and I enjoy it a little bit more until in some point , I feel okay , now I can settle down again .
But who knows , yeah yeah , exactly , I have that a lot with people when I meet them and I say , oh , I've been a digital nomad for almost six years at this point , and then they're like whoa , so like , did you travel for those entire six years ? And it's like kind of like on and off .
And I think as digital nomads it's really common and I think probably also good to have like phases in it . So then I never wanted to like force myself to keep traveling when I didn't feel like it .
So I have had phases in the last six years where I was like you know what , I just want to or have to stay a little bit longer in one place and I don't feel like moving around every single month .
But then I also had times in these six years where I was like let's explore new places , let's see as much as I can in the next six months , and then after that I was also exhausted .
So then I was like , okay , let's just I don't know like get one place for six months , not move a lot , have routine and like go to the same gym , you know every day for six months and you know things like that , which I then really enjoyed because that's what I was craving , and then at some point , I would get itchy feet again and I was like , okay ,
let's go this like next adventure . And then I would also be itchy feet again and I was like , okay , let's go this like next adventure . And then I would also be very excited about that .
But I think , like keeping that excitement , the way to do that is to just lean in and to feel what you want , like what you're really looking for , and it will likely change and I hear you say that as well . Right , like for now , this is what you want , this is what you're super excited about .
And then probably there will be a phase again where you want to chill more , stay in one place , like focus on other things . Like instead of like exploring new places , focusing on other things , like your business or something else you know . Like for me , it's also often like community building or health is things that I would really enjoy , like focusing on .
Like now that I'm here in Valencia , I'm like , okay , great , I found an amazing gym that I really enjoy going to . So that's basically a . Well , my priority now is to just go there and really enjoy and like focus on on my health and sports a lot , and I think that's also it .
Yeah , what I would like to add is also this possibility of this being brave , also of following the voice of our heart . You know , that's like my core inspiration . It's not just to inspire others to listen to their heart , also me connecting every day and following it .
So , because my entire journey , my entire adventure of being a digital genomic started with my heart telling me I should organize retreats in Colombia , and first I thought what I'm crazy , you know like , as I was a business consultant .
But then the more and more I allowed myself to listen and we all first need to allow ourselves to listen to those crazy in our voice sometimes and what I enjoy so much as a digital nomad that I have the freedom , flexibility and to really listen where my heart wants to go , if it wants to stay , what is happening , what you say , maybe now , and I want to
focus on community building , health . I really enjoy the gym , whatever , or there's a new location , I want to go , like really this , connecting and following it .
And this is also something I was learning in the last three years , because I also sometimes we try to to be with our minds no , you need to go now to that place and you need to stay there , for example , for me , I know . I know I need to go now to that place and you need to stay there , for example , for me .
I know I need to spend some months in Germany because I haven't spent so much time with family and friends and I love them . I feel guilty if I'm not so long there , but my heart is craving or is knowing that there's something else in another place maybe happening , and that's now my path , you know .
And then maybe in a later point it's again longer in Germany , who knows ? But that we really allow ourselves to listen , and this has became more . If you ask me , what changed since our first interview is also this becoming more and more confident that our heart is really this wise voice within us that knows what's best for us .
We are just not brave enough sometimes to listen , or we need to learn to listen and yeah , yeah , and do you think it also helps that you've done it a few times now and you ended up ? Well , you know like , okay , the first time maybe your heart tells you , okay , like , go to Colombia and start a retreat business .
But then , once you do it and you you know you are super brave . I feel like the next time your heart tells you something you need less bravery because you have more confidence in my experience , where it's like well , you know , I've done something like this , like something crazy quote-unquote crazy .
I've done something crazy before and it worked out fine , you know .
So then I can do something crazy again , like I can go to a different country , I can go to the other side of the world to explore Bali and see what happens there , and I feel like it also gets a little bit easier because just that confidence of like I can handle this , I can move to a different country , I will be able to find friends because I have
done it before , that also
¶ Embracing Fear and Setting Intentions
makes it easier . I think that first step you need so much bravery and then it becomes a little bit , yeah , definitely easier , definitely , and maybe for the listeners when they cannot , wasn't it with listening to your heart ?
you can also maybe say the intuition . And how many times does it happen that you realize , oh , I had this intuition , I should do x , y , that , but I didn't do it . I should have done it . You know , these are also moments that help me , like we came up .
But yeah , definitely what you say , because with every time we follow this , whether we go to a country where we haven't been or we start something , we also become more self-confident . Why didn't we ? We learn , oh , we really can do , we really can manage and , yeah , there was something beautiful happening . It's definitely .
I think the first thing , as you said , is like to do the first step , to going out of the comfort zone and embracing the fear and then realizing , wow , there's truly some beauty behind that fear . Then we become more comfortable of doing it and our comfort zone becomes bigger and bigger and bigger . So we can do another step and another step .
And for me , it's sometimes when I feel like , should I really do it ? Like when I really feel a bit scared .
Oh , I know I should do it , but my mind is telling me no , no , no , don't do it , then I stay a little bit longer with the decision , but in the end I I take the step because I know , okay , if I feel scared , it's because something beautiful is waiting for me . It's like , yeah , how it works .
You know , if I talk a little bit spirituality , that's also something I become more and more passionate about . But it's like the law , you know , like universe is joining us and it's giving us this hints what we should do and to really live like this authentic , fulfilled life . It's we can do it when we really start listening and following .
Yeah , and I also I still get that moment where , a few few days before I take off on a big trip or like something that is not in my comfort zone , still a few days before , I have this feeling of why am I doing this to myself , like you know , like , why do I have to do it ?
Why do I have to put myself through this and pack my bags and , you know , get so uncomfortable , and that lasts usually for like 48 hours and then one day before I leave , I'm really , and then , once I'm on the plane , I'm just literally excited and I don't feel any of that discomfort anymore .
But I still have that after so many years of traveling and after nomading for so long and , you know , like , building the business and taking all that risk , still have that almost every time .
So I also don't think it necessarily goes away for many people , but I think that's a good thing because also , you know , keeps you on your toes , makes you appreciate the journey and , like you said , I think it's a good sign . Yeah , and it keeps it exciting .
Right , because if we would not feel like this anymore , it would also maybe get boring , you know .
And then we think , oh , what so ? Nomad , life's never boring .
Exactly and what really helps me then also to understand it and to go into it is really like just sitting down and journaling and then playing also , because usually when I sit in a plane going to a new location , I always write down like how do I really like , ask my heart , how do I want to feel when I sit in the plane next time or in the future time ,
like what should happen now in that new destination , in that next step , like who do I want to be first because that's also beauty . We're like when every destination we can start from scratch Like who do I want to be ? Like which of my roles , all the many roles I am do I want to live more in that new destination ? What activities would I like to do ?
How would I like to feel on a daily basis ? What do I want to reach with , or what are my goals for my business , my private goals , you know , like my priorities , and that's then also always beautiful to use this time in the plane to plan it just as a little inspiration . I just need to think about it because that became one of my travel routines .
I know , I remember that you told me to do this if you like , at least once , one time , but like probably a few times , and it's a really good practice , I think , to reflect on what your expectations are , but not necessarily expectations , but more goals , like you said .
And also , yeah , like visualizing OK , I'm on the plane to the next location or on the plane back . What do I want to have achieved or experienced ? And I think that's a really good practice . It sets that intention for sure and , yeah , I love that . I think that's a great tip , and I think intention for sure , and , yeah , I love that .
I think that's a great tip , and I think you can do that for every trip , even if you go on vacation right , if you're not a digital nomad or not digital nomad yet , I think for every kind of travel , you can do this or even as an entrepreneur , like how do I want to feel next month about my business ?
what do I want to have achieved ? You know , and sometimes I also do it when I go into strategic planning- yeah , exactly , that's a good tip as well .
Yeah , so can you share a little bit more about what's next for you ? You know , talking about goals and things . I mean , you already mentioned that your business has changed quite a bit , where there is an online component now , and that you're going to Bali and you're going to Mexico again , but what else ?
Do you have anything exciting coming up that you can share with us ?
¶ Expanding Community and Business Growth
yeah . So I really want to grow more , this community of people supporting each other who are suffering or who are dealing with it's not it's who are dealing with overeating , emotional eating and recovering on their bulimia journey . So I will host some retreats just for this target audience or people who feel identified with this .
But it's not that I'm not a therapist . It's all about connecting to our heart and finding the answers . Why do we need the food within us ? Because food is just a symptom when we have an eating disorder . It's not the problem . So , really understanding our challenge , what is maybe this limiting belief that I have deep within me ? Or my wounded child ?
What is it believing ? What is it what I really need ? Why is the food helping me ? And focusing more on this , like in retreats , and also creating like more dances , you know , like I want , I'm currently creating the special dance that is guiding us into our heart .
So maybe also playing in some festivals , in some conscious festivals I hope , hopefully you see me there more . And then , besides that , I'm just creating , like I'm already applying it in my woman circle or in my coaching , like a special methodology to guide us in our heart and get these answers .
It's called the inhabitants of our heart , all those different parts that are living within us , with who we have the dialogue . When we have the dialogue with our heart and I'm currently putting it a little bit on paper to bring it like to create this , this methodology that are like now , like a little bit like the next steps , you know , by by by .
Still I'm , I would say , with my business . I'm in the phase little where it's like still . I feel it's a starting point . So sustaining what I already have , caring for it , building like this community more , more in that sense , and networking , collaborating . I feel there's so much more possible when we are like collaborating .
So maybe someone now feels I want to do the same or I have an idea . Please reach out . I'm super open for for always like new opportunities . Yeah .
I love that and all your links are in the show notes , so when you're listening , you can find all kind of links to connect with her in the show notes and also make sure to follow her on Instagram so that you can , you know , keep up to date on where she is and the events that she organizes online and offline .
Yeah , I think that's really cool and I'm so excited for you . Yeah , it feels like a little next step in your business , right , like one of already so many steps you took to get here , but then this is probably like the even step on also on your business trajectory . You know , like maybe it's like .
Maybe it's like Mexico was for me integrating Everything I meant in Colombia , this little community I built there , all the events , so I felt I managed so much . Now it's time to integrate . Instead of yeah , and now I integrated like in , like being in in Germany .
I had a retreat here that's , I feel like , until now , my most successful retreat , in a way that it was overbooked , you know like , and everything , and me also feeling as a confidence baseholder with an amazing collaboration partner . So , so great .
And now like Bali now is like okay , going out again now a little bit of my comfort zone , stepping a little bit into new spaces with my , with my business now , and being also brave more to focus more on this , on this target audience .
Because , to be honest , as this is like my wound , I was 15 years suffering from bulimia and now I'm teaching , learning and I want to show everything that helped me to go like together with the therapist . You know I'm not a therapist , so I had my therapy , but what helped me on a daily basis now inspiring others .
But this is also me showing me vulnerable , because I talk about my story with these examples . So , but I feel I don't know . I think bali is like in that energy that holds me to be able to be brave and talk about it . And then I go again to mexico , where everything now like . I hope .
I go there again as a then as a confident spaceholder , also for ecstatic dances that guide you into your heart , also for emotional eating , and so I go to mexico when there's high season to hopefully host there then all the events . I became now more confident and holding . Let's see . Yeah exactly .
It sounds like it is all already all working together and it probably will be more and more , um , very exciting .
Well , canvass , thank you so much for coming on the well , coming on the podcast being part of this podcast , but also today talking us through your updates and where you are now in your business and also in your nomad life because , also , you know , things have definitely changed in the travel side of things , so where you're finding out more and more what
destinations work for you and for what like phases in your business building and just in general
¶ Community Building Through Nomad Interviews
. So that's super exciting .
Um , yeah , thank you for talking us through that today and no , and thank you also for the opportunity , because I'm just thinking and reflecting , it's also thanks to all the interviews we have , you know , with all the nomads , we we inspire each other again and listening and later to the episode , but this also helps us to find our way and that lifestyle , getting
inspired um by by each other . So , and also like and I think it's like it was a great idea that we did it , because then I hope for also for the listeners get to know us a little bit better and can better follow up on the interviews . It was amazing , I think so .
Okay , yeah , thank you so much thank you , and thank you for everyone listening . See you next . One too many more interviews .
