#62: Kubernetes Isn’t Enough with Mark Fussell from Diagrid & Dapr
Aug 17, 2025•1 hr
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Episode description
Kubernetes alone isn’t enough! This is what we discuss with Mark Fussell, co-creator of Dapr and Diagrid co-founder. How Dapr’s sidecar gives developers clean APIs (pub/sub, service invocation, secrets, state) with tiny overhead? And how durable workflows and “agentic” apps with Dapr Agents actually function? Also in this epsiode:
- A short history of architecture models;
- Differences between service meshes and Dapr;
- Agentic systems and conductors: what is what?
- The future of agentic applications;
- Will the sidecar model go away?
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Show Notes:
- Follow Mark on X.
- Follow Mark on Linkedin.
- Regular posts and insights on Dapr and Diagrid.
- State of Dapr Report by CNCF that we discussed during the episode.
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