Devnology Podcast 028 - Gamification with Gabe Zichermann

Gamification expert Gabe Zichermann was in the Netherlands to give a talk at TheNextWeb conference in April. We managed to tackle him for an interview, and he put the Gamification hype into perspective for us with some compelling examples and a lot of theoretical background. We talk about user engagement as a metric, SAP as a gamification frontrunner (yes, SAP), behavioral economics and gamification as a silver bullet. Gabe finishes with a life lesson he got from playing a lot of Sid Meier's Civilization.

You can follow Gabe on Twitter at @gzicherm

This interview was recorded at the beautiful rehearsal theater of Hettoneelspeelt (http://www.hettoneelspeelt.nl/verhuur/)

Interview by @freekl and @tjeerdhansAudio post-production by @mendelt

Links for this podcast:

• gamification.co, Gabe's site about all things Gamification
• Gabe is a fan of the work of Nadya Direkova, UX designer at Google
• Some examples Gabe talks about: www.stackoverflow.com, www.huffingtonpost.com and the Frequent Flyer Program of United Airlines
• The Wikipedia page about Gamification
• A dedicated wiki for Gamification
• Gabe's books