Design Systems WTF

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A podcast from zeroheight.

Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.

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Design System Contributions

Navigating design system contributions – how do you tell someone their component is terrible? We address many design system creators' challenges: Navigating design system contributions and giving constructive feedback. How do you effectively communicate that a contributed component may not meet the standards or expectations (i.e., they’re just plain terrible)? We discuss ways to encourage improvement without demoralizing contributors. Join us as we explore best practices, real-life stories, and ...

Jan 17, 2024•29 min•Season 1Ep. 9

Design Systems Contracting

In this episode, we tackle the question that many ponder: Can you create a successful design system through contracted work? We explore the dynamics of working with external design teams, freelancers, or agencies to build a cohesive design system. Is it a recipe for success, or does it present unique challenges that could impact the system’s effectiveness? We uncover the pros and cons of this approach and share insights on navigating the path to a thriving design system.

Jan 10, 2024•25 min•Season 1Ep. 8

Design Systems Help Desk

We have a special edition of Design Systems WTF, this time Luke will be joined by the amazing Amy Hupe ! They’ll be chatting about design systems and answering your questions. Get ready for a unique and interactive experience in this special “DSWTF Help Desk” episode. We’re opening the floor to you, our listeners! Have a burning question about design systems or anything related? Ask us, and we’ll tackle your toughest inquiries with our highly opinionated thoughts. Whether you seek career advice,...

Dec 27, 2023•32 min•Season 1Ep. 7

Design Systems Careers

Today's question: Is my career doomed if I focus on design systems? We dive deep into the world of design system careers. Is focusing on design systems a career move that can make or break your professional journey? Join us as we explore the power and potential of design systems and discuss how they can shape your career in design. Is it a stepping stone to success or a potential roadblock? Tune in to discover how design systems can be your secret weapon or a career-defining challenge....

Dec 20, 2023•28 min•Season 1Ep. 6

Design Systems and Accessibility

Today's question: How accessible can a design system really make a product? We explore the potential of design systems to enhance accessibility and discuss the challenges involved in achieving this goal. Are design systems the golden ticket to a more inclusive digital world?

Dec 05, 2023•27 min•Season 1Ep. 5

Should I use tokens today?

Today's question: Should I use tokens today? DESIGN TOKENS. The saviour of our design systems, or so it seems from the amount that people hold them up as the shining light. But what’s the deal with design tokens — when do they make sense for your company? What is going to happen to them in the future? And who do you listen to when it comes to doing them correctly?

Nov 02, 2023•26 min•Season 1Ep. 4

AI and Design Systems

Today's question: Will AI change design systems? We genuinely can’t believe it’s taken us three episodes to mention AI… It’s obviously a hot topic at the moment, as folks are figuring out how they can use things like GPT or Dall-e to automate or generate things within their design systems, or heck, if they even should use AI in the first place because of the ethical, legal and moral risks!

Oct 20, 2023•27 min•Season 1Ep. 3

Rewarding Contribution

Today's question: How do you reward someone for the contributions they make? From the big questions straight into the weeds! This has been a favourite question in the last few years of figuring out how to rightly reward folks for contributing, but also how to motivate them to contribute in the first place. Are shout-outs enough? Do we need to tie rewards to the wider company rewards? Should motivation to contribute be intrinsic or extrinsic? Should we be encouraging contributions at all? Resourc...

Oct 17, 2023•26 min•Season 1Ep. 2

Getting buy-in for your design system

Today's question: How do you make the rest of your org care about your design system? With the current climate, budgets are being slashed left, right and center. Because of this design systems are often at the top of the list for what to put on the chopping block. So how do we make the rest of the organization care about design systems? How do we show how important it is, and how do we talk about it in the language that non-design systems folks care about? Do we need to change that when we’re ta...

Sep 28, 2023•22 min•Season 1Ep. 1

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