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Design Better

The Curiosity Department, sponsored by Wix Studiodesignbetterpodcast.com
Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with guests across many creative fields, helping you hone your craft, unlock your creativity, and learn the art of collaboration. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”
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Kevin Bethune: Nonlinear—Navigating Design with Curiosity and Conviction

Visit our Substack for bonus content and more: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/kevin-bethune-returns One core strength that good designers cultivate is the ability to navigate ambiguity. Our guest today, Kevin Bethune, returns to the show to discuss his new book, Nonlinear: Navigating Design with Curiosity and Conviction , which emphasizes that to achieve real innovation, teams must be willing to venture into the “proverbial forest of ambiguity.” We talked to Kevin about how we can bring non-l...

Feb 19, 202521 minSeason 11Ep. 129

Scott Belsky: Adobe's Chief Strategist on navigating the creative Cambrian Explosion

Visit our Substack for bonus content and more: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/scott-belsky We live in an era where it’s easy to get overwhelmed by the pace of new technology. As designers, creatives, and technologists, we have a wealth of tools at our disposal that people in our roles only a decade ago could only have dreamed of. Yet it can be daunting to know where to focus our efforts: what new skills and workflows should we be learning to stay relevant? Scott Belsky, co-founder of Behance ...

Feb 11, 202543 minSeason 11Ep. 128

Idris Brewster: Bringing history to life with augmented reality

Find bonus content and more on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/idris-brewster In Berlin, there are memorials to the Holocaust called Stolpersteine, or “stumbling stones,” that memorialize some of the victims of the tragic event with small brass stones placed into the cobblestone streets outside their last-known residence. These poignant objects create moments for reflection, and awareness of the invisible history that hides behind modern city streets. Here in the United States, w...

Feb 04, 202527 minSeason 11Ep. 127

Jake Knapp: Click—How to make what people want

Design sprints have become a staple of the creative process at companies around the world and an indispensable tool in the pursuit of innovation. We owe a debt of thanks to Jake Knapp and his former colleagues at Google Ventures (now known as GV) who pioneered the design sprint. Visit our Substack for bonus content and more: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jake-knapp-click There is one gap that design sprints have not entirely addressed, though. What do you do if you’re starting a new product ...

Jan 28, 202555 minSeason 11Ep. 126

Jenny Blackburn: Google's VP of UX for Gemini on how generative AI can improve our workflows

We live in an era where the boundaries are beginning to blur between roles like designers and developers. Generative AI tools are making it easier for designers to code quick prototypes, and for developers to wireframe and create first-pass UI’s for applications. Find bonus content and more on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jenny-blackburn So we thought it would be fascinating to talk with Jenny Blackburn, VP of UX at Google for Gemini, about the many ways that GenAI can improve...

Jan 22, 202521 minSeason 11Ep. 125

Scott Berkun: Why Design is Hard

As designers, we sometimes get caught up in our egos. I’m the creative one on the team. I’m the one who should have the final say on these designs. I’m misunderstood, and I feel like I’m always having to teach people a new language. Find full show notes and bonus content on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/scott-berkun-why-design-is-hard Author Scott Berkun has a new book called Why Design is Hard, which dives into why this “ego trap” limits designers' effectiveness in their roles...

Jan 15, 202548 minSeason 11Ep. 124

Marcus Bell: Producer and songwriter for Nicki Minaj, Snoop Dogg, and Timbaland on music and creativity in the age of AI

There aren’t many kids who start a record label when they’re 12 years old. Or play piano professionally at the age of six. But our guest today, Marcus “Bellringer” Bell, is the kind of polymath that did those things, and went on to create a successful career in the music industry, as a producer and composer who has worked with musicians like Nicki Minaj and Snoop Dogg. Marcus has also created one of the first AI-driven artists, fusing his own musical skills with GenAI persona Rayvn Lyte. We talk...

Jan 07, 202532 min

Reconsidering: Mastering change with Brad Stulberg

Our podcast network, The Curiosity Department, has a new show called Reconsidering . Though design and your work are a big part of who you are, you are so much more. Reconsidering is a show hosted by designers that aims to bring fresh eyes to the important things in life. Co-hosts Meredith Black, formerly at Pinterest and Figma, Bob Baxley, formerly at Apple and Thoughtspot, and Aarron Walter explore topics like how to build a fulfilling career, navigate big life changes like illness and death, ...

Jan 01, 20251 hr 3 min

Rewind: Jonathan Hoefler: Typography legend on type history, philosophy, and entrepreneurship

Hi folks! We hope you’re having a wonderful holiday season, and have plenty of opportunities to relax and spend time with friends and family. This week we’re rewinding to one of our favorite episodes with Jonathan Hoefler, the legendary type designer. Enjoy the episode, and we’ll see you in the New Year! Find the full episode and bonus content on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/rewind-jonathan-hoefler *** It’s still not too late for a last-minute gift for the creative people in y...

Dec 24, 20241 hr 3 min

Alastair Simpson: From professional soccer to leading design at DropBox

Alastair Simpson is accustomed to adaptation. The first half of his life was spent in the pursuit of a professional football career (or soccer as we call it in the States). But things didn’t go as expected, and he found himself searching for a new path in life. Football taught him discipline and to focus on excellence, traits that transferred well into a career in design. He’s led design teams at Atlassian and today, he’s VP of Design at Dropbox. We spoke with Alastair about how he applies desig...

Dec 17, 202426 minSeason 11Ep. 120

Bonus Episode: Jason Giles, VP of Product Design at UserTesting, live in Austin

Jason Giles is tuned into the habits of successful product design teams, not only because he’s been leading them for 15 years, but also because his team at UserTesting makes essential tools used by top design teams around the world. Jason thinks of the collaboration process in his team as similar to a jazz band where improvisation and exploration go hand-in-hand. We’re anxious to learn more. We’re excited to share this sponsored bonus episode, recorded live in Austin at The Human Insight Summit ...

Dec 10, 202421 min

Bishop Briggs: Award winning singer-songwriter on creative transformation after loss

Sometimes, a creative transformation occurs after a painful experience in our lives. This certainly happened for our guest today, Bishop Briggs, who lost her sister at a young age in 2021. After a period of intense grieving, and struggling with depression, her son was born in 2022, and she went on to win The Masked Singer in 2023. Find the full episode on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/bishop-briggs We spoke with Bishop about how her creative process evolved during these life-ch...

Dec 04, 202413 minSeason 11Ep. 121

Design Better 2024 Holiday Gift Guide

We're at the holidays once again and that means it's one of our favorite episodes, our Design Better holiday gift guide for designers, creatives, and anyone who appreciates well-designed products. This list is perfect for anyone hunting for the ideal gift for that special someone—or, let’s be honest, for themselves. And this year—like last year—we’ve curated some stellar picks. Visit our Substack for the full list: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/design-better-2024-holiday-gift-guide *** Visit...

Nov 26, 202446 min

Live at Savannah College of Art and Design, with Kate Aronowitz, Steve Johnson, Kat Holmes and Jaime Lopez

When Aarron was in college studying painting and drawing, he had an absolute certainty about the path my career would take. He was going to move to New York, make it big as an artist, and never look back. And Eli, as an undergrad in product design, wasn’t sure what a career in his field even looked like. The skillset wasn’t clearly defined yet. The outdoor product companies he was eyeing wanted me to conform to a neat little box: “Are you an industrial designer, or a mechanical engineer?” He was...

Nov 19, 20241 hr 3 minSeason 11Ep. 119

Bonus Episode: Gali Erez, head of Wix Studio

This is a special sponsored episode of the Design Better Podcast Gali Erez, Head of Wix Studio at Wix , has had quite a journey, from a background in graphic design at CalArts, through transitioning from print to digital in her early work at Warner Brothers, where she helped envision media's digital future. Along the way, she has learned some principles that helped her during her time as an individual contributor, and also guide her as a leader: sharing ideas early, giving tough feedback, and us...

Nov 14, 202438 min

Kamasi Washington: A jazz genius on collaborative lessons learned from Kendrick Lamar, Snoop Dogg, Lauryn Hill, and more

Jazz is a constantly evolving art form, offering some of the richest lessons in creative collaboration. A melody and chord progression provide the foundation, but as each musician brings their unique improvisational perspective, the music takes on unexpected, transformative shapes. If you ask any fan of the genre who’s pushing jazz into new territory, Kamasi Washington’s name will come up—likely at the very top. His 2015 album The Epic won the American Music Prize and stands, in our opinion, as ...

Nov 12, 202414 minSeason 11Ep. 119

Adam Moss: The Work of Art

We’re students of the creative process, and so is Adam Moss, author of The Work of Art: How something comes from nothing . Formerly the editor-in-chief of New York magazine, these days Moss is on a quest in his studio to understand painting and through it the mysteries of the act of creation. Questions about why people create—and the diversity of process across mediums—led Adam to write his book, which features interviews with a host of inspiring folks. Kara Walker, Tony Kushner, Sofia Coppola, ...

Nov 06, 202445 minSeason 11Ep. 117

Andrew Evans: Design & magic 🪄

One of Aarron’s first jobs as a kid was performing magic shows, and it taught him a surprising amount about creativity. Magic is, at its core, the art of storytelling. It’s about directing attention, making people question assumptions, and blending creativity with technology to change how we see the world. That’s why it’s no surprise that Andrew Evans, founder of the Magic Patio, draws on his training from Stanford’s d.school to craft truly mesmerizing experiences. We dive into Andrew’s journey,...

Oct 30, 202413 minSeason 11Ep. 117

Diane Hoskins and Andy Cohen: Design for a Radically Changing World

We don’t know about you, but we spend more time than we’d like to admit worrying about our future. Central to our concerns is how we’re responding to climate change. It’s a massive, multi-dimensional problem. People like Diane Hoskins and Andy Cohen of Gensler, one of the world’s largest architectural firms, bring our anxiety levels down a notch. Under their leadership, Gensler has been innovating in material science and design to mitigate the impact buildings have on our environment. Diane and ...

Oct 23, 202452 minSeason 11Ep. 116

Jason Chatfield: New Yorker cartoonist on his creative process

The New Yorker has great writing, but Aarron and I are pretty sure we’re not the only ones who flip through the magazine before reading any articles to find all the great cartoons from legends like Roz Chast or Saul Steinberg. So you can imagine how thrilled we were to get a chance to speak with Jason Chatfield , a New Yorker cartoonist who also happens to be a very talented illustrator, and aspiring stand-up comedian. Jason’s also got a new Substack about his creative process called Process Jun...

Oct 15, 202413 minSeason 11Ep. 115

Mattias Hollwich: AI & Architecture

If, like us, you’ve been tinkering with the plethora of AI tools that have emerged recently, chances are it’s changing your workflow and creative process. AI is a great thought partner for writing, illustration, and even user research, but we’ve been wondering how people in other creative disciplines are using it. Matthias Hollwich, principal and founder of New York architecture firm HWKN Architecture , has discovered AI is a powerful addition to architectural design. He and his team are using i...

Oct 09, 202449 minSeason 11Ep. 114

Skye Waterson: Creative work and ADHD

We’ve talked with people across many creative disciplines on Design Better, and there’s a red thread that keeps popping up—many are neurodivergent in some way. A diagnosis of ADHD in childhood can seem like a disadvantage, but it can actually become a superpower that enables hyper-focus and deep learning. We wanted to learn more about ADHD so we called in an expert—Skye Waterson. Skye received a surprise ADHD diagnosis at the beginning of her Ph.D. program, which led her to research and develop ...

Oct 01, 202411 minSeason 11Ep. 13

Enrique Allen: Design and entrepreneurship at Designer Fund

Until Designer Fund was founded by Enrique Allen and Ben Blumenrose, venture capital investments rarely considered design strategy when investing. Companies like Stripe, Notion, Gusto, and Omada Health—all in Designer Fund portfolio companies—see design as a competitive advantage and a tool for acquiring and retaining customers. Enrique Allen told us all about the tremendous value design is creating in these and many other companies. We spoke with Enrique about how they chose design as an invest...

Sep 24, 20241 hr 4 minSeason 11Ep. 112

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Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with inspiring guests across diverse creative fields, to help you hone your craft, unlock your creative potential, and learn the art of collaboration. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for ...

Sep 17, 20245 min

Yashar Kassai: Artwork and production design for Spiderman: Into The Spider-Verse, TMNT, and more

One of the great things about being a dad is getting to watch your favorite movies again with your kids and experience them through a new point of view, and also to watch new films together and see how things like animation evolve and create new ways of telling stories. One of the best examples of this from the past decade is Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse , which used innovative techniques to pay tribute to the comic-book origins of the stories but add new depth and excitement without feelin...

Sep 17, 202411 minSeason 11Ep. 111

Shirley Kurata and Mimi Haddon: Palace Costume and costume design for "Everything Everywhere All at Once"

Costume design plays an important role in filmmaking. Films like Austin Powers, Lala Land, Boogie Nights, Black Panther, and Malcolm X transport us to a different time and place through costume. Have you ever wondered how the concepts for costume designs come together? We have—that’s why we’re talking today with Mimi Haddon, author of Palace Costume, a book about the most important costume house in Hollywood, and costume designer Shirley Kurata who was nominated for an Oscar for her work on Ever...

Sep 12, 202440 minSeason 11Ep. 110

Brendan Boyle: Toy design, play, and the creative process

Eli first met Brendan Boyle when Brendan was his instructor in the undergraduate Product Design program at Stanford, where Brendan has taught for many years. Brendan is also a toy inventor, and one of the assignments in his class was to design a toy—now that Eli has kids, he realizes how bad his toy project was, which made Brendan’s justified criticism of his idea that much more bearable. Brendan, however, has a unique gift for retaining the curiosity and playfulness that has made so many of his...

Sep 04, 202414 minSeason 11Ep. 109

Rewind: Vicki Tan: Learning from new voices

This week, we’re rewinding to one of our favorite episodes from our 6th season, with Vicki Tan. Vicki is a designer and author, who is now a staff product designer at Pinterest. When we spoke with her, Vicki was an associate principal product designer at Spotify, and Earlier in her career, she was a senior product designer at Headspace, worked on communication and UX design at Google and product design at Lyft. Find full show notes, bonus content, and more on our Substack: https://designbetterpo...

Aug 28, 202446 min

Connor Moore: Sound design for Tesla, Uber, Peloton and more

Sound is the unsung hero of interaction design. The iconic chorus you hear as you boot up your Mac, the double knock of an arriving Slack message, and the ascending notes Airpods make as they connect to a device all provide context and feedback without visual interactions. Without sound in our design toolbox, interacting with technology would be much more cumbersome. Connor Moore has helped companies like Tesla, Uber, Peloton, and Youtube shape their brand and enhance the user experience through...

Aug 20, 202446 minSeason 11Ep. 108

Matt Abrahams: Think Faster, Talk Smarter

Becoming a better communicator is one of the best ways to level up your career. Being able to think on your feet and communicate ideas effectively is critical, no matter what role you have right now, or where you’d like to be in the coming years. Our guest today, Matt Abrahams, is just the guide you need to help you improve your communication skills. Matt is a leading expert in communication with decades of experience as an educator, author, podcast host, and coach. He lectures at Stanford’s Gra...

Aug 13, 202412 minSeason 11Ep. 108
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