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Design Better

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Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with guests across many creative fields, helping you hone your craft, unlock your creativity, and learn the art of collaboration. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”
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Episodes

Seth Godin, Rewind: Learning to take risks, be generous, and make a ruckus

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/seth-godin If you don’t know who Seth Godin is, just type “Seth” into Google or DuckDuckGo. The first entry will lead you to his blog, where he writes— every day —about marketing, design, writing, how being a better human will make you better at your job. Once you’ve started to read his blog, you’ll probably be hungry for more of his wisdom. He’s written over eighteen bestselling books on business and marketing, including Linchpin , Purple Cow , and ...

Jul 06, 202242 min

Dr. Sian Proctor: SpaceX astronaut on imposter syndrome

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/sian-proctor If you’re looking for an inspiring human being, it would be hard to beat Dr. Sian Proctor. Dr. Proctor is a geoscientist, and also an artist and poet who uses her afro-futurist space art to encourage conversations about women of color in the space industry. For 21 years, she taught geology, sustainability, and planetary science. She also happens to be an astronaut(!), and was the mission pilot for the Inspiration4 all-civilian orbital mi...

Jun 21, 202227 minSeason 7Ep. 65

Katrina Alcorn: IBM’s head of design on why partnerships are essential

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/katrina-alcorn If you lead a team of over 700 people, what skills would you need to bring to the table to help them collaborate effectively? In today’s episode, we chat with Katrina Alcorn, General Manager of Design at IBM, about how she develops partnerships across her organization to resolve conflicts and get aligned. We also talk to Katrina about the challenges that large teams face in remote and hybrid environments, how her training in journalism...

Jun 07, 202243 minSeason 7Ep. 64

Nir Eyal: How to be indistractable

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/nir-eyal You’re sitting at your desk, trying to do some deep work—finishing up a presentation, writing some code, sketching out a new interface—and you hear a noise. It’s the familiar knock of Slack, or the chime of your e-mail inbox. All of a sudden, you’re taken away from a state of flow and into an attempt to multi-task, which is the enemy of getting things done. By some estimates, distractions cost the US economy more than $650 billion dollars a ...

May 24, 202236 minSeason 7Ep. 63

Detria Williamson: IDEO CMO on making collaboration more inclusive

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/detria-williamson In an interview with the Wall Street Journal last year, Detria Williamson, former Chief Marketing Officer of IDEO, said that “diversity can be engineered and inclusion cannot.” In this episode, we dive deeper into that statement, and also ask Detria what roadblocks she encountered over the course of her career—from working as a head of marketing in Dubai, to her most recent role at IDEO. We also ask her about what it means when desi...

May 10, 202236 minSeason 7Ep. 62

Guy Kawasaki: Lessons from Apple's early days

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/guy-kawasaki Guy Kawasaki has certainly had a remarkable career. From gaining popularity as the Chief Evangelist at Apple for the Macintosh computer in the 1980’s, to authoring fifteen books, to hosting the Remarkable People podcast, Guy has made a habit of trying new things During our conversation with Guy, we talk about why it’s important to be able to make a sale, no matter what your role is. We discuss the start of his career at Apple, and how he...

Apr 26, 202239 minSeason 7Ep. 61

John Cleese, Rewind: Monty Python's cheerful guide to creativity

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/john-cleese The Ministry of Silly Walks. The Cheese Shop. French Taunting. If you haven’t seen any of these Monty Python sketches before, do us a favor and go watch one or two of them. You’ll discover—or re-discover—why our guest for this episode is a creative comic legend. John Cleese starred in and co-wrote the award-winning series Fawlty Towers, was nominated for an Academy Award for the screenplay of A Fish Called Wanda, and even has a species of...

Dec 07, 202132 min

Eileen Fisher: How design principles and systems guide a clothing company

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/rewind-eileen-fisher-embracing-imperfect In his book The Laws of Simplicity, John Maeda says that “simplicity is about subtracting the obvious, and adding the meaningful.” Our final guest this season, Eileen Fisher, is a master at making the simple, meaningful. Eileen is the founder of her eponymous and iconic fashion brand Eileen Fisher, Inc., which is known for its ethical & sustainable practices, and elegant yet simple clothing. She started th...

Nov 09, 202141 minSeason 6Ep. 60

Robin Petravic: Midcentury modern design principles and Heath Ceramics

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/robin-petravic If you’re a fan of architecture and design, you’re probably familiar with the mid-century modern movement. It brought a simple, clean aesthetic inspired by the Bauhaus and International movements to the US. Heath Ceramics, founded by Edith Heath in 1948 and influenced by mid-century modern principles, is still making beautiful hand-crafted tableware and architectural tile in Sausalito, California. We wanted to chat with Heath’s current...

Oct 26, 202140 minSeason 6Ep. 59

Vicki Tan: Spotify's design process and finding your purpose

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/spotifys-vicki-tan-learning-from Vicki Tan has worked at companies that change the way we travel, think about our mental health, and access music from around the globe. To each of these roles she has brought her background in psychology, to better understand the needs of the people using these products. We chat with Vicki about some of the things she has learned over the course of her career, from Lyft to Headspace to Spotify, the ways that the pande...

Sep 28, 202145 minSeason 6Ep. 58

Judy Wert: Negotiating salary and navigating career changes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/judy-wert The way that we work has been disrupted by the global pandemic, and for those of us who are fortunate enough to have kept our jobs, it’s also caused many of us to question why we do what we do, and wonder if there are ways we could have a more positive influence on the world. We thought it would be great to speak with Judy Wert, co-founder of the executive search agency Wert & Co , who has guided many leaders through navigating career c...

Sep 14, 202138 minSeason 6Ep. 57

Benjamin Evans, Rewind: Inclusive design at Airbnb

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/benjamin-evans Benjamin Evans, Inclusive Design Lead for Airbnb, is part of a new kind of problem solvers tackling issues like racism, sexism, and bias in digital product design. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron chat with Benjamin about using techniques like design thinking, research, and storytelling to ensure a more inclusive experience for all your users.

Aug 31, 202148 min

Scott Berkun: How design makes the world

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/scott-berkun Do you have a colleague who just doesn’t get what design is all about? Or maybe you’ve tried explaining it to your parents, but they just respond by asking you to fix their printer. If that’s the case, then Scott Berkun has written a book for you, to give to them. It’s called How Design Makes the World , and it’s a great beginner’s guide to how design shapes just about everything we interact with in modern society, for better or for wors...

Aug 17, 202146 minSeason 6Ep. 56

Sandy Fershee: How design thinking is transforming Ford

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/sandy-fershee The most innovative electric car announced in 2021 was not a Tesla, but a Ford. The new Ford F-150 Lightning, a fully electric version of the best-selling vehicle in America for the past 30 years, is the culmination of thorough user research and fresh thinking on a familiar product. We were curious to learn how design and innovation are playing a role in Ford’s transformation, so we’re excited to bring Sandy Fershee, lab director at D-F...

Aug 03, 202135 minSeason 6Ep. 55

Chris Kemp: CEO of rocket maker Astra on collaborating on challenging problems

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/chris-kemp Over 50 years after humans first landed on the moon, it’s still extremely difficult—and expensive—to get anything into orbit. But imagine if there were a more affordable way to give scientists and entrepreneurs access to space. We could develop more efficient agriculture to feed people more affordably and sustainably , or more closely monitor the evolution of dangerous storm patterns to save lives. The company Astra is on a mission to do j...

Jul 20, 202142 minSeason 6Ep. 54

Julie Zhuo, Rewind: Facebook's VP of Product Design on what she got right and wrong as a leader

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/julie-zhuo Listen as Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager , recalls some of her earliest professional experiences at one of the fastest growing companies on the planet. She reveals how she got her start and grew to be a highly influential design leader renowned for building top-notch teams. Julie talks about the difference between leading and managing, and shares personal examples that can help you advanc...

Jul 06, 202152 min

Rosanne Somerson: A look inside RISD, one of America’s premier design schools

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/rosanne-somerson In its 144-year history, the Rhode Island School of Design—also known as RISD—has graduated numerous notable designers and creatives, from graphic designers Shepard Fairey and Tobias Frere-Jones, to painter Kara Walker, to cartoonist Roz Chast, to Airbnb co-founders Brian Chesky and Joe Gebbia. Rosanne Somerson became president of RISD in 2015 after a distinguished teaching career there (and after John Maeda’s departure). We speak wi...

Jun 22, 202144 minSeason 6Ep. 53

Sara Seager: What the search for exoplanets can teach us about collaboration

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/sara-seager If you’re lucky enough to look up into a clear night sky and see the thousands of stars visible to the naked eye, it’s hard not to wonder, “are there other planets like ours out there?” Our guest for this episode, Professor Sara Seager, is on a mission to discover potentially habitable planets outside our solar system. Sara is an astrophysicist and planetary scientist at MIT, and to discover these exoplanets, she relies not only on her ow...

Jun 08, 202135 minSeason 6Ep. 52

Dan Pink: Why collaboration is the key to being persuasive

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/dan-pink To Sell is Human. That’s the title of one of Dan Pink’s books, and also the foundational concept for his recent Masterclass on persuasion. Dan is also the bestselling author of books like When , Drive , and A Whole New Mind , and we sat down with him to discuss how we’re all tasked with selling something in our day-to-day roles, and why collaboration is the key to being persuasive. We chat with Dan about creating meaningful connections in a ...

May 25, 202143 minSeason 6Ep. 51

Steve Johnson and Rochelle King: How Netflix designs for a global audience

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/steve-johnson-rochelle-king If you’re anything like us, you’ve been watching more than your fair share of Netflix this past year. And with such great original content, from The Queen’s Gambit to more obscure shows like Midnight Diner, we were curious what it takes from a product design perspective to create and deliver these shows to a massive audience, in a way that’s accessible not only to audiences here in the US, but all around the world. So we s...

Feb 23, 202150 minSeason 5Ep. 50

Doug Pray and Matt Weaver: Apple TV+ Home and how spaces change our behavior

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/matt-weaver-doug-pray Of the designed objects we interact with on a daily basis, our homes are probably the most influential on the way we live our lives. In Apple’s new series Home, the creators investigate the ways that some of the world’s most imaginative dwellings help their occupants reframe the way they live and work. In this episode, we chat with Matt Weaver and Doug Pray, who are both executive producers for the show. Matt also produced sever...

Feb 09, 202141 minSeason 5Ep. 49

Jason Mayden: Air Jordan design and a brush with death that shaped a career

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jason-mayden As we head into a new year—and leave behind a year that was challenging for just about everyone on the planet, with the hope that this year will be better for all—we wanted to share an interview with one of the most optimistic, creative, and insightful people we know: designer, entrepreneur, and educator Jason Mayden. When we first interviewed Jason in 2018 for one of our Design Better Conversations , we knew we had to get him on the pod...

Jan 12, 202142 minSeason 5Ep. 47

Brian Chesky: Airbnb’s co-founder on designing for trust

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/brian-chesky It all started with a box of cereal. Well, that’s not exactly the beginning, but when Brian Chesky and his roommates had maxed out their credit cards while starting up what would become Airbnb, they had a crazy idea to continue funding the company by designing and selling limited-edition cereal boxes during the 2008 presidential election, and call them Obama O’s & Captain McCain. Now, 12 years later Airbnb just made its initial publi...

Dec 15, 202045 minSeason 5Ep. 46

Annie Jean Baptiste: Google's approach to inclusive design

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/annie-jean-baptiste As designers and design leaders, most of us understand the ethical importance of making our products accessible and inclusive for all the people who use them. But we don’t always understand the best way to go about doing this, or the business case for making it a priority. That’s why we were excited to speak with Annie Jean Baptiste, Head of Product Inclusion at Google. Our recent guest John Maeda said, "If there is one voice in t...

Dec 08, 202034 minSeason 5Ep. 45

Bill Burnett: Designing your work fife

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/bill-burnett In the wake of a pandemic and economic catastrophe, many of our friends and colleagues in the world of digital product design are fortunate to have kept their jobs, but there have also been many who were not so lucky. We thought it would be timely to bring in an expert who has been using a designer’s mindset to help people reframe their approach to their careers. Bill Burnett, co-author of the bestselling book Designing Your Life , has w...

Nov 24, 20201 hrSeason 5Ep. 44

Debbie Millman: Revealing what matters the most to designers and creatives

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/debbie-millman We’re not ashamed to admit that, when we booked Debbie Millman for our show, we were a little intimidated. Not by Debbie herself, who always comes across as kind, smart, and thoughtful in the interviews she does for her own show, Design Matters. But just knowing that we were interviewing a pioneer in the podcasting space, someone who has been interviewing designers and creatives for over 15 years, and who spends a huge amount of time a...

Nov 10, 202039 minSeason 5Ep. 43

John Maeda: Design in Tech Report

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/john-maeda Over the arc of his career, John Maeda has been many things: a professor at MIT, president at the Rhode Island School of Design, a Design Partner at Kleiner Perkins, head of Computational Design and Inclusion at Automattic, and now Chief Experience Officer at Publicis Sapient. In our interview with John, we learn how curiosity and humility have driven his wide-ranging and accomplished career. We also dive deep into his recent CX Report, wh...

Oct 27, 202041 minSeason 5Ep. 42

Seth Godin: Learning to take risks, be generous, and make a ruckus

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/seth-godin If you don’t know who Seth Godin is, just type “Seth” into Google or DuckDuckGo. The first entry will lead you to his blog, where he writes— every day —about marketing, design, writing, how being a better human will make you better at your job. Once you’ve started to read his blog, you’ll probably be hungry for more of his wisdom. He’s written over eighteen bestselling books on business and marketing, including Linchpin , Purple Cow , and ...

Oct 13, 202042 minSeason 5Ep. 1

Jina Anne: How design systems affect company culture

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jina-anne To celebrate the new InVision DSM, we're sharing one of our favorite episodes in conversation with Design Systems Advocate, Jina Anne. If you’re engaged in any sort of community surrounding Design Systems, whether it’s the Design Systems Slack, or the Clarity Conference, then you have likely benefited from Jina Anne’s work. A self-styled Design Systems Advocate, Jina has been passionate about creating events, content and resources that brin...

Aug 18, 202039 min

Jahan Mantin and Boyuan Gao: Designing for diversity

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/designing-for-diversity In today’s episode, we talk with Boyuan Gao and Jahan Mantin—the founders of Project Inkblot—who have built a practical framework that can help everyone design for diversity, and can also be a guide for challenging conversations. We discuss how they see design as an opportunity to bridge the divide and bring people into the conversation about designing products and services that address everyone’s needs, regardless of race, et...

Jun 11, 202045 min
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