On this week's episode . The truth of the matter is nobody should actually trust . If you have certain doubts , you should be like hey , bro , I do trust you with some stuff , but some stuff I don't trust you . And that's the truth of the matter , yes or no ?
Yeah , someone's requesting you to trust them . They're acknowledging that you don't understand what's going on and you don't have the capability of understanding what's going on .
So every time you guys told me to trust you're in good hands , Every time you guys told me to trust you're in good hands , Basically telling me I'm a fucking idiot .
Call your mom right now and tell her this . If that's fake news , call her right now . What Say , hey mom , everything we knew about trust is actually dead . She's going to think .
I'm drunk or high . Let's hear it . Hello , hey you busy .
Trust . Does it exist ? Is it it real ? Is it possible blind trust ? What is it ? I don't like this and are you really in good hands ?
this topic's really .
You know , we really went over this today , man yeah , but you know we have to go over it the whole week in order for us to really be convinced that you understand , that you might not even the whole .
You have to go over it for a lifetime .
Yo man , listen , Really . You totally . You gotta learn to accept the little things man Like this , right here . This is a simple thing to accept , right ? You know what I'm saying .
Explain to us what that is , or are you a drunk and you should be cut off ?
Fuck you bro , Are you ?
drunk now .
No , Tully has a problem accepting little things man .
What little things , Besides the one in your pants . I think he's accepting all that . Fuck you bro .
I'm accepting that you're a tiny pecker .
I'm average man . You have the inverted pe .
Fuck you , man All right , fine , what you got . What's the small things that Tully can't accept ? I don't know All right good , he can't really accept anything . You're a drunk . No , he can't accept anything bro . No , he can . Yes , he can Look . The question is Tully . The question is it's a longstanding question about trust . Is it possible ? Can we do it ?
Can it be done ? How can it be done ? Do you trust your mama , and is it ? Can it be permanent , or is it just moment to moment ?
Trust . Trust can be permanent as long as it's kept .
What does that mean ? What does that mean ?
What does kept mean ? You don't break someone's trust . That's it .
Okay , but give me an example of like you were riding with us . You were in good hands , you felt like you were in good hands and then you didn't .
I was . I'm not going to mention who , but I was sabotaged .
Why can't you mention who you were compromised ?
Okay , fine it was the crispier . But listen , how and why , right ? So what trust is just like a thing where it's like it just can go away just in the moment , in the flash of a moment .
No , it's more like people have to learn to basically blank shit out , you know like let it go out one ear , one out the other .
Well , they have that famous line right . It's been said like for a long time Trust is earned , not given . Trust is earned , not given .
Trust is earned , not given . Okay , what about the person that needs to be trusting ?
Well , that's the thing . I think it works like the reverse . So like there's different , I think , like like they're , they're like trusted , like the word trust , I think , kind of means different things . Do you trust someone to do something ? Do you trust them with you telling them something and them not telling maybe others or something ?
Do you trust them in a relationship .
Yeah , do you trust them to complete a particular task ? Yeah , do you trust them like like , for example , right , if , if if you ask me like yo , like uh , yo , totally , we have like uh , six people over , can you pick up some bread ? Right , you call me that . Do you trust I'll get enough ? Yeah , and probably one . That's like pretty good ?
Yeah , right , but maybe someone else , like I don't know , if you send like your dad or someone and he's cheap , yeah , he may get like some whole wheat or something you're calling out .
All right , I'm okay with that yeah , like .
So that's that . That's like you trust them with those kind of decisions . Because you maybe say or , or like , if we're talking about food for like ufc and you're like , um , why don't you get creative right ?
Like we're not sure if I guess if it's going to be potentially really good or not , but I think that you trust that I can look up some creative things , right ?
no , like that , no no , because no , yeah , yeah , like , when it comes to like creative , it can be really like you gotta call tommy .
You might , yeah , you might feel a certain type of way about creative and I might feel a certain type of way about creative , but ultimately I think it's like me you just don't have a maybe a ground on creative food in order to say sure you know what I'm saying ? we don't have enough of that , sure , okay , fine , like what ?
What comes to mind in your creative food wise , and I like ? I'll think about one right now .
I will well , if you tell me to get creative off the bat , you're telling me something that we don't typically have .
Yeah , it has to be completely new , that's number one , and then it has to be probably , in my mind a little bit fancy . Okay , time out . That's in my mind the same thing , and it has to be like chicken . A complicated chicken .
It has to be a complicated chicken , so it has to be homemade .
Is what you're saying to be creative ? Not at all . No , because totally we were talking about this before . I said you know we can order from some other place , like a wing place , and totally he's like you know , when he hears wings , it has to be homemade .
No , it doesn't need to be . But when I hear someone tell me to get creative , I don't think about ordering something now . No , it doesn't need to be .
When I hear someone tell me to get creative , I don't think about ordering something now Bro .
I want to give people a context . Maybe they cannot shoot an email on their opinions . Let's do that . Let me explain what's the American thing to do If you're watching a fucking sport game , like we're planning this weekend to watch UFC do push-ups and wave the American flag . Do you get up from watching the fucking game ?
and cook Hell . No , you tell the woman to go in the kitchen and fucking order some wings or make some Well , you're talking about no women in this thing .
Oh , okay , alright . Bunch of dudes . We don't have women because you ain't got no fucking wife man . Okay , but the whole fucking point , bro Right .
But you're trying to make a case to be his wife or no .
What the hell he needs .
a wife , bro Are you trying to make a case to be his wife ? No , fuck you . No , just so you can imagine , fuck you .
He's already taking .
Let's put it this way right , we're sitting down watching UFC . You don't fucking make something , bro . This is your mistake . Man bro , the whole point of a fucking match is ordering in .
He sounds like a combination of Nate Diaz and Cat Williams together . Oh , fuck you man .
I have to think about it now .
I have to remember what those two characters sound like , bro in the US when we're in the middle of a fucking sports match , you don't fucking do that . You fucking order in , you get it delivered to your fucking door and you get back to your fucking match . Point blank , bro . This is the American way , point blank .
No , no , it's a good argument , you guys are always talking about cooking , man . Yeah , but what if you're not really about that way ? He's talking about cooking man . Yeah , but what if you're not really about that way ? What if you want ?
to make your own way . You guys are all about that way , man . You got bets all the time , man , on this shit .
No , yeah , but we also enjoy cooking . I totally enjoy cooking . I enjoy good food .
You got to split up your fucking time , man . Yeah , but we also enjoy good food .
You got to split up your time . Sometimes we can't just order something in and be like , oh , this is really good . You know what I mean ?
Consistency , I think it's also satisfying if we do something and it actually comes out good .
When I'm in the middle of something . I guess that's where we're different in another way , because first of all , you're not allowed to touch anything when it comes to the kitchen of food .
That's negative For now . Are you making a challenge ? Are you going to cook something I can cook at home , bro ? Okay , what do you got ? Totally , we might have to get really creative this weekend , we don't need to be creative at all we know the answers right here what are you going to make ?
I can make cheese .
Is he going to make ?
corn kebabs ? Yo , there's no corn kebabs , man . What's wrong with you ? Fuck you Bro the difference between us right when . I'm watching sports , right , whether it be football , baseball , boxing , ufc . 30 yards minus 10 yards , fuck you , okay . Okay , I'm in the middle of something here . Okay , go fuck yourself , all right , but basically .
How many yards is it from now ?
When . I'm in the middle of something . Okay , that's it , bro . When I'm watching a fucking match , I ain't got time to fucking do all this other shit .
Man , I'm in the zone man , I got money on that shit .
Have you ever been ? Have you ever watched a game from A to Z , from start to finish ? I have you have . Yeah , what's the percentage of that game that you actually understand ?
What sport are you talking about ? Football , football . I understand all of it , bro . Yeah , yeah , okay .
I can't wait to watch a football game with you .
He said he likes watching on Sundays ?
You don't watch football , man .
I've never heard you talk to Tully about football on Sundays .
I didn't think any of you liked football until recently , bro , think about this .
Think about this I don't like football Sunday . Sunday , my deck 70-inch screen , it's what we do . Football , it's what we do .
This is what we do . You don't do shit , man .
What do you mean ? You don't watch football , man ? Yeah , but I can get into it If I see you into it and you really know your shit , because I'm going to have a lot of questions because I don't know football like that . You have to be able to answer those things . How long you been in America , bro ?
no , it got nothing to do with it , man . Okay , fine , it got nothing to do with it . 20 plus years and you don't run no football , man , mm-hmm , 28 years . Okay , let me tell you something , right .
I know some stuff about football .
Football is the most .
American , you're going to fucking get man .
Probably . Yeah , no , you don't . I've been watching this shit since I was fucking 70 .
Yeah , but watching it and comprehending it is two different things .
Bro , who's the kicker on the Kansas City Chiefs ?
My question would be completely different . Who's ? The kicker . What is the longest kick that has ever been attempted ?
Longest kick that has ever been attempted , yeah and made . Or longest kick that has been made Made yeah , go ahead . Longest kick that's been made yeah , it was at 66 yards by Tucker .
I think it's somewhere in the range . I think Tucker either holds it or that Kansas City guy . Nope , tucker , he's ranked number one .
His jersey is currently in the NFL Hall of Fame with the longest kick in NFL history along with his jersey . That's believable , okay , fine , okay . The second best kicker is Bucker , who's Kansas City Chiefs . The third is Elliot in Eagles . Do you know some ?
stuff totally or no ? Who's the running back of the Eagles right now ?
Squadron who Former Giants running back Squadron . Yeah , I don't know how to pronounce his name Saquon Barkley .
Squadron Listen , you got the ball over the net .
Don't even fucking start with me on that , bro . That's some bullshit .
Who's running back of the Jets right now ?
I'm going to be honest with you I don't know bro , that ain't my team .
Whose is your team ?
That ain't my team Giants . That's why I'm salty about fucking Saquon going to the fucking Eagles .
bro , Name me four wide receivers in the Giants .
Current wide receivers yes , I stopped watching them . You said you were their fan , bro , the fucking past couple years . How would the Giants give Daniel Jones that big of a fucking contract when he sucks ?
ass . Listen , I don't know the details . Here you can only get a real reaction Sucks ass .
He doesn't know Elder , so he stopped watching .
I stopped watching the Giants . Bro , he's not a real fan .
I decided to choose a secondants bro he's not a real fan . I decided to choose a second team . I'm not a fan of any team out there . Just in general , I enjoy watching this sport what kind of bullshit is that ? And it is , in general , one of the best sports to watch .
Okay , hold up . I decided to choose a second team because I couldn't stand to watch my Giants until they get a better quarterback . They need to drop that motherfucker . Drop him like a hat . Eli Manning Eli Manning's retired bro . Oh , I'm sorry he's been retired . The only reason Daniel Jones got the job is because Eli Manning recommended him .
Daniel Jones got the job because Daniel Jones went to their summer camp of Eli and Peyton and that pisses you off or no ? That pisses me the fuck off Really .
So wait wait , wait , sort of like how you got the job here , right ?
Fuck you . That's different , bro .
Okay , I know .
This motherfucker's getting paid over $200 million . Bro . Fuck that shit . He didn't earn that shit . He's not $200 million , he's got a contract with over $200 million .
No , I got $1,000 on that , oh Wait .
Wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait . We have to put the bet down .
We have to put the bet in Put the phone down right now . What's the bet ? What's the bet ?
What's the bet ? I have to redone my hair green . No , I want something else . What do you want ? I don't know this is a good one it's whatever you want to lose , because I'm 1000% right over what's 1000% ?
it's not around 200 million he's saying it's under you're saying it's over .
Yeah , I don't even know the exact amount that it is actually Wow , Wow .
Do you know your shit or no ?
I know it's around 200 million .
What do you mean ? Around now You're going down a little bit . It's over or not . It's over , it's over . Wow , we have to take it easy on him . How about just 10 bucks ? What ? How about 10 bucks ?
No , I want something that's going to like Hurt him Slightly , burn or be annoying . Yeah , yeah .
He has to take off his shoes in his house for the next week and walk around in his socks . Every time he comes in he's going to take off his shoes and his dad is going to ask , hey , why your shoes are off ? He's like no going forward . We're going to have shoes off in the house .
I got to work . That's it . I was going to say I was going to give you something better , but fuck it Yo and what do you want from me ? When I was in the immediate office I was going to say I had to work shirtless .
No , no , that's gay .
Mike always tells me you got to wear a shirtless , bro , you got to take off the black shirt , all right .
Yo no shoes in the house . What happens if he's right then what do I got to do A ?
thousand dollars Deal or no deal . He says it's under Yep , I say it's over yeah .
That's a deal Deal or no deal .
Damn , he's thinking about it , bro , he is man , he did say $1,000 .
Deal or no deal ?
No that would bet $1,000 for $1,000 .
No , but yeah , but come on , you said you were 1,000% .
All right , well let's make it All right so deal $1,000 .
I insured for 50% .
Daniel Jones contract Fuck how much $160 million , that's $40 million a year .
That's still bullshit . And only half of it is guaranteed , so they don't have to give the other half .
It's still a waste of money . I thought everything was guaranteed .
No See , that's the thing . Nfl is the only sport that does this . Oh , it doesn't guarantee it . So , for example , his contract is $160 million over four years , but only $80 is guaranteed but , only 80 is guaranteed . So that means that it gives a team after year two flexibility . To be like yo . We can ban you . How many years ?
Four years , oh , that's a lot of money .
Yeah , but that's .
Quarterbacks are going to be .
Right now , quarterbacks are the most shit .
Yeah , quarterbacks are getting Like the top number one . Guys are getting about 52 , 55 .
Let's put it this way .
There is going to be this year or next year over 60 million a year .
Patrick Mahomes is at what was his contract Over 400 million .
His was 450 over 10 years , which is now cheap .
That's a fucked up thing , bro . They're going to give him more , though you think so .
You think they're going to readjust it , because he could just protest it and that's it .
When have you ever seen a player protest ?
immediately after he signed . Yeah , but he didn't immediately sign .
That happens all the time I heard the third year they don't have a contract . New contract , Then they protest .
No , they protest all the time .
Alright , let's put it this way . You wanted to know my second team .
Well , listen , I don't want to know your second team . First of all , I want to get this bet right .
You just lost the bet . I got to take my shoes off .
At home . Every time you come home going forward for the next week , you have to take your shoes off and when your dad asks you tell him what Going forward . We're taking our shoes off in the house because we're going to make everything clean . Everything has to be clean . That's disgusting .
And we're going to rearrange these fucking pillows .
Thank you . Do you have hardwood floors or carpet ?
We have hardwood floors .
That's still disgusting to walk around in shoes , I don't know what to tell you bro . Wait . So what happens when you're on the couch and you want to lay down ?
Oh my God , no one lays down on the couch man . What do you mean ?
nobody lays down on the couch , no , one lays down it's not allowed , like no , my dad sits on , wait , hold on .
I'm going to ask this one question , and if the answer is this , we're not talking about this ever again . Is there still plastic on the couch ? No , no Is there any couch in the house that has plastic on it ?
No , there used to be . My dad had bought an old vintage couch from the 70s that he absolutely fucking loved . Yeah , but he kept the plastic on it for a while and he's like you know what , fuck it , because it was from the fucking 70s . This shit was vintage . It was worth money . And he didn't want the cat scratching it up . Yeah , yeah , yeah , so he .
So he kept it on , but eventually he's like I don't like the feeling of this , so he fucking ripped it off . Yeah , no , it's crazy , okay , but um , it was like red fucking Velvet , velvet , fucking feeling to it , bro Sick . But anyway , who asked who my second favorite team was ?
Nobody cares about this anymore .
My 49ers baby , nobody cares about this . 49ers , there's one reason . Brock Purdy I got ultimate respect for him Last pick in the draft and he fucking starting quarterback bro , he's fucking kicked ass ever since he's been there . Okay , fine , what do you know about football ?
Everything that Tully knows . I'm going to go behind Tully , you can't do that .
Yes , I can . You said Tully started teaching you football .
Yes , totally . What did he ?
teach you .
About basic things . You know basic rules and things , so you don't know Well when we watch this upcoming season .
We're going to go over things .
I'm going to ask questions no , you can't ask questions .
You got to learn on your own man .
I'm not allowed anymore you got to learn on your own . Listen . Let's get back to trust my friend . Football , football is boring bro what do you mean ?
it's boring in my eyes it's one of the most entertainment sports . Bro . Get that motherfucker . Don't let him get to that fucking end . Don't withdraw with you . Focus on your fucking job , man .
I see you as a coach with those headphones on .
No bro , I fucking scream at the TV if I don't like something bro I'm like a normal fucking football player . I'm rooting for a team , the fuck . I will literally get up and start fucking screaming at the TV , screaming at the fucking players through the TV . All right , fine , that's normal fucking football fans . While we're talking about you getting up ?
can you get up and get us some more beers , Please ? Why does it always got to be me ? Man , I can do it , but if you can do it , that'd be great . Thank you , sir . You need one too , man . I'm only a little past halfway bro , you nursing that shit is mad hot already .
It's disgusting man .
Half of it is your own spit . That's disgusting yeah .
Here comes a lizard .
Totally so when it comes to trust man , here it comes . Nice .
Archie said nice I know he said nice man . He's a sick fuck , right Arch .
You're drunk already , huh . I wish John Crespo was here so he could tell you to cut you off . I'm not drunk , alright , fine .
What were you asking ? What I'm ?
saying is I want to get back to the fact that the trust phenomenon . Well , is it really just a matter of time ? And solidifying many experiences together to then like okay , fine , I trust this person . No , no .
No , it's a lot of things , because there's like an overall trust thing right , and then there's like a trust only when you're thinking , which is to me like the actual trust .
Trust when you're thinking .
Right . And then there's like you have particular attachments or things you want to do , and if you're not thinking , then trust gets thrown away , you know , and that to be able to do that requires continuous upkeep of a relationship , because attachments , um , they have a hard time with trust .
You know , hmm , like , if I want something , yeah , and you're like no , no , they have a hard time with trust . You know , like , if I want something and you're like no , no , you don't need this right now , my initial reaction is like no , no , I need this . What is that ?
Saying that's not trusting off the bat , because I'm the one that's making a claim saying I need this or I want this , right , and you're coming here saying no .
Yeah .
So then would you say that trust totally , would you say that trust only exists because there's a gap in agreeance of reason .
Trust only exists because there's a gap in agreeance of reason . Oh yeah , I mean there's a gap you know what I'm talking about .
Yeah , there's a gap in agreeance of reason . Oh yeah , I mean there's a gap . You know what I'm talking about .
There's a gap in agreeance of reason and understanding in general . Yeah , but sometimes it could be like oh well , I don't trust what you're saying is true , but then you explain it and then the people might agree , then you understand . But then there's also like completely , things that you're unaware of , like that you're completely oblivious to that .
Someone else like like , if you're someone that knows what's going on or you know something , you could see a lot larger of a picture . And people who oftentimes need to trust the most , they're very narrow , like sighted , so they like , like your world might be , you know , like this I'm showing , like you can see everything , someone who needs to trust constantly .
The world is , like this , very narrow . Yeah so they're only seeing like one frame at a time where you might be seeing 10,000 frames at a time where you might be seeing 10,000 frames at a time , right , so they're going to need to leverage if , if , like , if they're humble enough and if , if they believe in it .
Yeah , but you know you know what , like when you say the word humble , I'm almost saying like that's impossible when it comes to trust . You know what I mean ?
Well , it's like almost like , if you're humble , you will trust , naturally , organically what's the thing is that , like when a moment happens when you need to trust who is the request typically made of trust by ?
I mean it could be either parties , depending on the type of trust we're talking about most common the teacher yeah , yeah , you know the teacher is the one that needs to remind the student said yo , you trust me and that , and that's kind of where you kind of put things on the line to be like yo , you trust me harris .
This is very important . We're totally saying what we're saying , harris .
I don't know if this is gonna run and one thing if it going to offend you or not , it doesn't typically go the opposite way , where it's like , hey , I really do want this , but you know what I'm going to leverage trust .
Yeah , it doesn't , it's almost impossible .
Yeah , Like that , that would be a , a very small , I mean a essentially , but that usually doesn't exist like that . No .
Trust is very weak . What ?
do you ?
mean trust is very weak , based on what we just talked about and based on what me and Tony understood . I wasn't here for effort , I know . And even if you were , you know what I'm saying . I don't know .
Fuck you , thank you . What we're trying to say is that fucking trust is .
You know what I'm saying ? I don't know , fuck you , thank you . No , what we're trying to say is that fucking trust is almost a primitive way of communicating and building some kind of connection with one another . Why do you think that is ? I don't know man , that's honest . Can you think that is I don't know man , that's honest . Can you explain it to him ?
Yo , we should unplug those rocks .
Why you can barely fucking hear it bro . What's wrong with you ? Bro I'm closer to that shit and I don't hear it . You don't have ears . Go fuck yourself , man , fuck you , oh , fuck you . Oh , fuck you , oh , fuck you Go fuck yourself , man , fuck you , oh , fuck you , oh , fuck you , oh , fuck you . Go fuck yourself . Sit and spin , motherfucker .
To what we talked about in regards to trust and why trust is almost primitive and the lowest tier of communication and understanding one another and understanding one another .
Yeah , because I think that often , in moments of trust , it's like you basically saying that you don't know and you're not capable of understanding either .
Yeah , what the fuck , harris ? So what we're saying ? Is that actually trust if anybody requests you to trust , right Even us ?
Yeah , it's an insult . What do you mean ? It's an insult . Totally explain it .
Yeah , like if you have to trust someone with something . I guess it's like If somebody's requesting you to trust them , yeah , if someone's requesting you to trust them , it's they're acknowledging that one . You don't understand what's going on and you don't have the capability of understanding what's going on .
So every time you guys told me to trust you're in good hands , you basically tell me I'm a fucking idiot .
Well , yeah , in a way I'm not saying that , right , but we're almost expecting you to say like , look , remove your ego , your doubts , your own reason , right , and all those things , because those are nonsense , and just trust us , because we wish you the best , and we're putting kind of like , the chips on us .
Obviously we're betting on us versus betting on you and we're saying just trust us , dude , can't you see we mean well for you Because we're really backing ourselves . We're not backing you , but to a degree like what we just talked about . It's to a degree it's insulting to your own reason . But it's supposed to be like that . No , yeah .
So should the other person take our word for it ? Anybody's word for it , well , I mean Not anybody , but why us Like take our word for it ? We're saying , hey , take our word for it , harris , you're in good hands and you're obviously going to have your moments of no , I don't trust you Because I don't agree with this . I don't agree with that .
You know why that happens .
Well , there's also different levels of trust . For example , if you have if , if , if , um , if you have like nothing in when it pertains to that topic , or nothing better , yeah . And for example , someone's giving you something and they're asking you to trust them it's very easy to trust .
Yeah , yeah , you have a horse in a race Because something .
Well , no , I mean , something is better than nothing . Yeah , off the bat , you get something , so it's easy to trust .
Yeah , if we were like If Harris is like I want a car and then others are like , all right , I'm going to go deliver and trust me , I'll get it done , yeah , right , yeah , okay , like yeah I'll take the worst case scenario you're gonna give me something I don't want and then like , all right , yeah right .
Or scenario two is that I say no and I just stay with nothing yeah , right so that , like unknown factor , but something is still better than nothing . So trusting there is extremely easy , right , but then when it comes to things of optimization , those are things that are a lot harder to trust . Why ?
Because , you have something Right and you want potentially something more , and someone trying to guide you in a potentially they're like different direction or maybe something different , yeah , so you won't see it . You don't see what . There's what what they're saying ? Yeah , but it's a lot , it's .
It's a lot harder to trust because what you're thinking is better initially , you know little consumptive attachment and desire yeah , yeah , the , the attachment , and yeah , yeah , it's .
It's a lot easier to trust things that you don't have trust scenarios and situations where you don't have attachment of desire , but usually those things don't require trust to begin with .
Right like okay so if those things okay , kiss my ass . What's the reasons to trust us ? What's the ?
reasons . Yeah , what are your reasons ?
Why do I trust you ? Yeah , like , what's the reason ? No , no , no , I'm not sure if you trust us . Okay , because we just had an episode .
Yeah , if someone were to trust , like , take you out of it . If someone were to , if , if , if some , if someone were to tr like , take you out of it . If someone were to trust us , right , what would their like ? What ? What would the reasons be to trust us ?
well , from my experience with you guys , okay or just what , what you see . Or just what you see . Well , yeah , experience you don't , I guess , beat around the bush , right ? You're fucking completely honest .
Why is that important ? It's very interesting that he led with that Mm-hmm . Okay , why is that important ? No , no , no , that was a question , totally , keep going .
Well , you don't . You tell it how it fucking is . Okay , whether someone likes it or not okay .
So wait , wait , okay , fine , answer the fucking question . Why do you think that's important ?
why do I think , why did you even say , would you trust somebody that says it how it is ? Yeah ?
because they don't try to . You know , pity you , you know like why not ? Not , because people are never going to fucking learn if it's done that way , is that an inherent thing in trust ?
then what ? That if you get an opinion from a person who doesn't have a horse in a race and doesn't really give a fuck , that inherently develops trust and you feel that even without knowing what's actually going on . Well , I think , if you feel that , even without knowing what's actually going on .
Well , I think , if you feel that somebody's being honest , then it's .
It is , it's easier to trust . One thing I can say right , Okay so continue , sorry .
So my experience is you always I don't know have everyone's best interest at fucking heart in the end Right . Uh-huh how , that's a great question .
I got to think how do you extract these things ?
You never fucking . In my opinion , you never straight me fucking wrong .
Even though that one Christmas , when I asked you to sit on my lap when I was dressed as Santa Claus , yeah , don't be fucking weird , man .
That never happened . Don't be fucking weird , bro .
That never happened . Alright , fine For the record .
For the record , never happened you don't want to sound like a petty man , alright , it never happened , I don't know .
You said it , I got you , that's it , that's on record .
All right . So , uh , you never fucking straightened me wrong , yeah . But you know , on several occasions you know you were the voice of reason on a lot of stuff . My mother used to fucking come to you to talk some fucking sense into me . Yeah , uh , yeah . So there's that Fine Plus by .
You took an oath to be honest and truthful when , when you were that caseworker man , I don't know about all that .
I don't remember that oath that's but yeah , you never strayed .
Neither one of you really strayed me wrong .
So what history and experience well , that's just one thing .
You can't just come in you can't just come in and say oh yeah , I trust this guy , it takes . It takes time to fucking there . You go right time , time and experience with time and experience with the person .
Sure , right , it's easier to say , like me , and harris was just saying oh me , you told we had 10 plus 15 plus years of knowing one another and within that record of time you never sat on my lap during christmas . You know what ?
I'm saying . You know what I'm saying . What the fuck you know what I'm saying ?
But how do you close the gap between that type of time ? What do you mean by experience ? Close the gap ? Sure , harris has his reasons , and his reasons are like hey , I've known you for a long time , time is the kicker , and experiences that I did have within that long time frame are good . Therefore I can trust you so like is that always the case ?
For when ?
it comes to trust . Is that the ?
variable no you can know someone for a long time right , but we haven't seen each other and no , yeah depends on , like , how you um , like how you carry yourself yourself and how you act , and if the person identifies with some of those attachments , right , someone walked in here , you know , wearing a suit and had a red Ferrari outside , yeah Right , and had a
$30,000 watch on .
Uh huh .
If someone is .
Compromised .
Yeah , if someone has a heavy attachment to earning money , or maybe learning how to make money To get the watch , they're going to want to shadow that person . Or if , like that person's like , hey , you want me to like , show you the way . Yeah right , but then it'll happen only to a certain point , like there needs to be then different things .
But you could have just .
You could have just met that person look totally right and listen , and I I agree with this example because the example is a completely contradictory to ours what one one example .
Right , there's also why there's polarizing figures out there in society . For example , like andrew tate is one of them . Right , okay , right , he'll whoa , whoa .
He'll post pictures constantly with like or or like videos and content constantly with like girls like I don't know doing boss shit right , or like having sick cars or like bitch like sick mansion for Right and then also carrying himself a particular way , a very confident way , a very like , arrogant way , a very like you know what what young , what ?
what like young boys or whoever consider like an alpha male type way . Yeah , and then he . He can also like allegedly fight Right , and he's jacked and in shape and wears like designer shit Dildo's on his forehead and he's jacked and in shape and wears designer shit and has a lot of money and stuff right . People trust him .
Well no , some people trust him .
No , not saying everybody , I'm saying that some people trust him without ever having a one-to-one conversation with him , without ever seeing him in real life without ever verifying anything .
They still trust him , isn't he wanted , without ever seeing him in ?
real life without ever verifying anything , they still trust him , isn't he wanted ?
he doesn't even live in this fucking country no , yeah , he's in Romania he's wanted right no , he's not wanted .
I think he has some kind of court case pending against him yeah , but he's not wanted he's the most douchebag sounding person out there Paris we're trying to discover this thing about trust . It's fucking us up .
And he fucks .
The thing is we're totally talked about just now All those accolades , quote unquote , that Andrew Tate has . Win him over some people that are cheap Take a dump on his Ferrari .
Are you a cheap person ? I'm not . I'd take a dump on his Ferrari if he came near me . I'd take a big old shit on his fucking Ferrari . I don't like that guy . He talks so much shit , totally back to differ , that you're a cheap person Call . Andrew Tate . Tell him to come over here . He's off the rockers today , right ?
Yeah , he is Call Andrew Tate , tell him to come over here , I'll take a fucking .
He's drunk man , I'm not drunk . You enjoying yourself .
I'm not drunk , okay , fine , call Andrew Tate bro .
I dislike him so much . He's not dude , he's fucking from UK . He's like an .
Arab or something . There's no fucking way have you heard this guy talk .
Yeah , yeah , he's not American at all , he doesn't know anything about anything , Okay fine . That's it .
Alright . So what I'm trying to do is trying to then ask if time and experience in that time frame is this wide range of things , what the fuck ?
are you talking about , bro ? He's born in Washington DC , numbnuts . No way Andrew Tate . His real name is Emery Andrew Tate III . Okay , born December 1st 1986 , age 37 , washington DC . Fine , who gives a fuck ? Fuck that motherfucker . He can kiss my white ass .
Fine , so we're trying to do Andrew .
Tate showed up here , offered him money and a nice car He'd get the fuck out of here in a heartbeat .
He'd suck his dick right . He'd be like gone like this .
I'll pull down my pants and tell him to kiss my fucking white ass right here .
He Pants attempt to kiss my fucking white ass , right yeah , he said yo come be my .
Assistant run , run shit in New York . I'll give you five , five hundred thousand dollar a year salary .
Andrew Tate suck my big white cock like this Come on , let's get this shit going man , we're trying to man , we're trying to figure out what is this trust thing and why does it work the way it does ? And why is it almost insulting if you start asking for , hey , do you trust me ?
No , it's not insulting . It is insulting If you ask someone do you trust me ? No to you , it would be insulting . Yeah , it is insulting Every time to you , but not to the person . I've never heard that before .
No , but it's an insulting Communication style .
No , it's not . If someone says Because , ultimately , you know what ?
I don't want to fucking trust me . I don't want anybody to trust me . Let me put it this way , right ? I want everybody to be able to Hold on one second . Listen to me .
You gotta calm down . You're off the rocker .
Go drink some fucking water . Harris , trust us . Keep your mouth shut right now .
Fuck you Because the average person is not . The only way it'd be insulting right is to ask someone do you trust me ? And they say no .
Harris , I'm going to point .
Try to understand this point . All right , I'm hitting this shit . What Are you asking ? A question or are you making a statement ? Is it all right if I hit this shit ? Oh , there you go . That's a question now . Yes , it's all right , but do you understand what you just fucking did ? I did , what did you do ?
I said I yeah , so you use a fucking statement to make a question ? Yeah , I always do that , fucking shit .
You know who else does that . Don't say Tommy , no , mike , we do . Call him my work pops .
Yes , and we always call him out on that because it's confusing as shit . That's not proper way of fucking communicating .
You ask the fucking question you make a statement . Where do you think I learned that shit ? That's a good question . I . Where do you think I learned that shit ? That's a good question .
I've been around you guys for how long ? If you learn that from him , I'm done , I'm going to have a serious conversation with him . I don't remember where the fuck I learned it . This is a typical pussy shit that a lot of people fucking use to communicate with Pussy . Eat stupid shit , don't man .
Listen , you did the right thing you said is it okay if I hit this ? Listen , you did the right thing . You said is it okay if I hit this Because you really wanted to ? So yeah , let's get back to it . We're trying to explain to you why trusting , or asking to trust someone , is actually an insulting thing to do .
Because I'm telling you , ultimately , trusting is secondary . If me and you agree on the point of whatever it is that we agree upon , I don't need to ask for your trust . It's a natural phenomenon . Hold on one second , let him think about it and then we'll explain to you what I mean . I'll explain to you what it is . Did you follow me ?
If me and you agree that whatever example right , I don't know Leaving chocolate out is bad for our dogs , right ? Me and you both agree on that , I don't have to trust the fact that you're going to not move it out or leave it out . You know what I'm saying . Like I know that you will do it .
Therefore , I'm not going to trust you so-called it's organically , like it's fine , everything's going gonna be fine , because me and you are on the same page here and many other things . Like I don't have to summon trust . Like hey , can I trust you totally ?
if I do listen to this , I'm acting out of anxiety yeah , see , it's also a semantics thing , because in the way that you describe it , some people would actually say that , oh , you just trust him . Like they would still call it that even though it's not and I agree with you . Okay , you do agree with me , but they would still use that word for it .
That's why it might be confusing .
Exactly , but I think that we're trying to do right , trying to figure out ways to use words in such a way where we can really understand where we come from without needing to you know be confusing , yeah , but let me ask you a question . Did you understand what we just said ? I do no , but Okay , hold on one second , your lawyer said no .
First of all , he's not my lawyer .
Explain to me what we just talked about regarding trust . And if we're both on the same page of agreeance , why do we need to use the word trust ? And if we both on the same page of ?
agreeance . Why do we need to use the word trust you don't If you're both agreeing on something you don't but say , like I've seen it over and over again , right , I've had friends , right , that got me to do shit . And their first question is , when I'm hesitant is do you trust me ? I said , of course .
So they say , okay , then fucking trust me , you'll be fine . You see , that's cheap .
That's cheap Totally . How is that cheap ? It's cheap because , at the end of the day stop it . Stop it right now . You don't fucking trust . Okay , the truth of the matter is nobody should actually trust . If have certain doubts , you should be like hey bro , uh , I do trust you with some stuff , but some stuff I don't trust you .
And that's the truth of the matter , yes or no ? Yeah , it's a normal phenomenon that's .
That's basically saying oh man , every that's . That's complete bullshit . Man , uh , if I trust you , I'm gonna fucking die you know like no .
What I'm saying is that you should ask , say hey , I do have some doubts and please help me with them . These are my doubts and that individual should if they're a good friend , I think take enough time and patience , right , unless they have a horse in the race , so-called .
They should take their time to explain themselves , to say , like , hey , harris , the reason why I'm asking you to trust me is because X , y and Z and I understand this , that this equation or this math thing or whatever , is this and this is how you should do it , because we're going to get to the truth .
So you're saying most of these people , most of the people in this world , have it all wrong .
Oh yeah , I'd actually say I'm saying that and that's the creative thing that he extracted , that that's basically what you're saying .
that's basically what you're saying because every single person I can say every single fucking person in this world- will ask the same fucking question .
No , I actually think that you're wrong about that . There's a very few people that actually are thinkers . They might not be in the whole world , but there's a small number of them and I'm telling you they try to use words very carefully because they understand the importance of how these words fall in your ears .
Let's call it most right .
Most 99 . I would say 99% , most of the people . Yes , we got it wrong .
Got it wrong ? Yep , totally yeah . So let me ask you a question , right , mm-hmm ? When people , when they're in a relationship , right , they say trust is the number one thing , they got that wrong . They got it wrong , are you ?
serious . I'm serious man . This is why what we do here is the best thing in the world and nobody really knows about it .
Well , that's kind of crazy , right ? It is Because we talked about some serious fucking topics .
Yeah , because you got to understand this . Right . It is because we talked about some serious fucking topics . Yeah , because you gotta understand this . I don't have to think about trust with katherine because I know katherine and vice versa , and any times , any time that katherine has to think about trust when it comes to me , she's insulting me .
That tells me that she doesn't know who I am . You understand and this has definitely been the case in my relationship as well where I have to explain myself thoroughly , to explain , like , the reason why you don't have to go into the world of trusting and feeling a certain type of way is because you actually have to get to know who you're talking to .
If you don't , then you have to rely on trivial things like trust yeah , this is why you have anxiety with your family . You don't actually know them and they don't actually know you , and we talked about this . Damn , that's deep , it is very deep . Paris , is it ?
also very woke .
I wouldn't say woke . Is there a reason why you're sitting in your underwear right now ? Fuck you , bro . Why'd you take your shorts off ?
don't make people think Because is there a reason why you're sitting in your underwear right now ?
Harris look like here we go . Who the fuck is sin bad .
Trust me when you show hit me with a headbutt .
He does look like Sinbad .
Who the fuck is .
Sinbad , trust me , when you show it to him , you're like yo that's my uncle .
Fuck you , man , and he's black bro .
He does look like him . You're right , man , kiss my fucking white ass bro .
Yes , harris , what we're saying is that a lot of people actually got this thing wrong we need to get more people to listen to this podcast and if that's fucking right , bro , why ?
what do you think we've been doing here , man ? Because , no , because , if this is true , this podcast will fix the world on all this woke truth .
I don't know that's not going to do shit trust .
It has that potential . Yes , if only people actually listen and understand what we're trying to say . That's the only way if they agree with us . Obviously right , because we're trying to tumble these ideas , the words trust , love , acceptance , compassion courage , we have the power to help change this world . No , no , no , he knows that he has the power .
We are very powerful , very powerful .
Well then , why is he saying this ain't going to change shit , man ?
Because he doesn't see the scope of it yet , as big as it is . You think it's profound . What do you mean ? Profound means this is important , this is big .
A lot of the topics we talk about are big , like last week we talked about woke . Yeah , the problem is , I think , you know , people might not agree with it . A lot of people might not agree with it , yeah , but it's a very important topic .
Well , like I said , I think that the way we use the word trust , it's insulting .
Yeah , like I said , I think that the way we use the word trust it's insulting .
Yeah , but the problem is we don't allow people's right reason , their own autonomy and everything else that they have in store in them to come out and to really have the time to explain this . That's why we trust is like a shortcut to action which can be detrimental to your health . Think about that .
When you're with a woman , right A woman you know everything about . 15 years down the road she cheats on you . Okay , there's no trust there . Well , if she cheated ?
on you ?
you don't really know her , that's what you're basically saying .
This is what I'm saying . If she cheated on you , you actually never knew her .
Shit , that is kind of true right , because the woman you thought you knew that's right , that's not the woman .
How ? If you understand the morals and ethics of an individual right , if you really know what they're about ?
how can you expect that ?
How would that happen , especially in an intimate relationship like a relationship ?
and how long has that been going on exactly ?
right . So if you're with them constantly rubbing elbows every day , you're probably living together or whatever , right , you're constantly with them . After 15 years , like what the fuck is that ? Yeah , like , how is that possible ?
I can start with that analogy . I can start to see what you're saying because where you're coming from , because the person you thought you knew is not , is not the actual person .
That means there was something part of that person that you actually didn't know and that was still in you .
That made me start thinking and that was hidden for a very long time . I see where you're coming from now . Okay , with that analogy .
Let's bring the analogy of example of yours . Right Today , we told you , harris , the most important thing is for you to speak to your dad and make him understand that what we're trying to do and the decisions that we're making are correct . Yeah , and you're like , I can't even talk to my dad .
We think , and we're like , hey , this is the most important thing for you to make sure that your relationship with your dad is good . You're like , hey , he will never understand and we just have to kind of ban him . No , we don't think so .
We want you to understand our point and we can get to a point where , like , we might be able to summon trust and say , harris , just trust us , that this is the most important thing . But to you it's hard to do because you have your doubts . You say , hey guys , you guys don't understand Penny .
Hey , no , okay , you have doubts like yo , you guys don't understand how my dad is . He doesn't let me even do this , he doesn't let me do that . You know what I'm saying ? So , because we don't have that context . You have that context .
It's holding you away from quote-unquote trusting us right , but we want you to jump over that , we want you to jump over that blindly , and I think that's not fair . I think that me and you right for example , you say , eldar , my dad actually is this way .
I have to think about this , think it through and then give you reasons and rebuttals to how to help you with that specific problem . And if I can do that , then we develop so-called trust or understanding that we can actually I can help you , empower you to change your reality and change your dad's mind in order to get that ?
How do you change a guy's mind that doesn't accept change ? This is a very good question . Let me put it this way . Yeah , I hope they're not listening . But my sister between my sister and my dad . My sister and my dad did not talk for three fucking years because they had a falling out . Because I don't agree with what she did .
Okay , right , my dad was diagnosed with two different cancers . Okay , and my sister and my dad were already on the rocks . Okay , not Dennis Rocks were already on the Rocks . Okay , not Dennis Rocks . No , not Dennis Rocks .
But they need to be on Dennis .
Rocks yeah , I'd love to see them on Dennis Rocks . That'd be a very fucking interesting podcast .
Maybe you should start with your sister .
My sister is very woke . Listen , this is perfect for us . Perfect , she's very big in the lgb . Perfect , even better , we love those , but well , absolutely . But um , they had a rocky start . Uh , my sister was like you know .
My sister was , like you know , going to therapy , okay , and the therapist convinced her that it was her upbringing that really screwed her up . Oh , and I don't know what the fuck she's talking , what this therapist is talking about , mm-hmm , because I was raised by him too . Yeah , and there's nothing wrong with our fucking upbringing At all . Okay .
I was there every step of the way .
There's nothing wrong with our fucking upbringing At all Okay .
I was there every step of the way . There's everything wrong with your upbringing .
He was not a terrible dad .
You know , he was a great dad , that's the thing when you say that it's your own subjective experience with it , because as soon as you tell us some examples about your dad's ways , we clearly like hey , like that's fucking fucked up .
You know what I'm saying , because you have a different scale and the bar was good , and we do too , you understand this or no , I do . It's subjective to you , meaning that you have a scale 1 through 10 and we have a scale that might be 1 through 20 .
Let's put it this way . The therapist claimed my dad screamed at us . He raised his voice .
Okay , he never really screams but he raises his voice Absolutely .
You do something wrong as a kid .
Yeah , they're going to raise their fucking voice . This is why you're still deaf on one ear , right ?
Fuck you . Okay , he didn't scream , but he raised his voice . The woke I call him the woke therapist , mm-hmm therapist the woke therapist said that is emotional abuse .
I'm going to tell you right now , if that's the only example and that's her extraction and conclusion of it , she's wrong .
Exactly , but it's not the only example . Listen . Probably not this is what I've been told .
Let me explain to you why that is my reason and your reason is different .
Let me explain to you why mine is my sister , my reason and your reason is different . Let me explain to you why mine is not Okay , go ahead .
Your dad did not do something that he knew what he was doing . He didn't know what he was doing , okay , he tried his best to raise you guys as the best . However , sometimes he was stressed out , right , and the times when he was stressed out he probably raised his voice , naturally , absolutely Right . To some individuals , that's abuse . To me it's not .
Your dad didn't know any better . He did his best in that moment , right . So where therapists might that particular therapist might want to put the blame on the dad and transfer that to the therapy ? Whoever's getting the therapy ? What has the therapist gone through ?
Well , listen , before that , what I'm trying to say is that you have to explain to the person that you've given therapy to that look sure , that might be the wrong thing to do and parent this way , this style of parenting , of screaming at the kids . However , let's try to understand why was your dad doing that in the first place , right ?
And that instills compassion to understanding that your dad didn't know any better . And if you get to that point , then you don't have , you don't have help me with the word . You don't have resentment . You don't have resentment because you understand that he didn't know any better . If he did , he would have applied love and compassion and understanding .
But he was also stressed out . He worked , you know , 80 hours a week . He had an abusive relationship . He maybe was an alcoholic . Whatever it was , those variables might have played an effect on how he actually communicated with you guys . Therefore , yeah sure , the blame could be put on him , but is it the right thing to do ? Probably not .
A good therapist can explain this very thoroughly .
My sister kind of exiled my dad For those reasons . For those reasons , and he broke the news to her that he had two types of cancers . Why did he do that ? Because he was diagnosed with it . He wanted the kids to know . He let me know . I called him every day when this happened To say bye , to talk to him .
Make sure I talk to him every day Because you never know when it's going to be the last day .
But my sister's response was Is that why he allows you to use his condom , or no ?
Stop it , man . My sister's response was I can't really talk about this right now . And they didn't talk throughout the whole fucking cancer treatment , the whole fucking nine yards . She kept that petty shit going .
Well , to you it's See the thing is , to you it's petty , but to her it's not the question is right .
Say God forbid , he didn't make it . Mm-hmm , that's fucked up , not talking to your dad . He's sick with cancer . He fucking raised you , he put you through college , he did everything for you .
If her therapist put her on that path to feel a certain type of resentment or anger towards him and didn't really explain it . It completely justifies why she's acting the way she's acting . She might be in the wrong as well , but again , who do you blame that to ? Do you blame that to the therapist ?
And then why did the therapist give the advice that she gave ? Is the therapist not educated enough to properly conduct a therapy session ? Right , and it keeps going and going .
Then my sister's response right , my sister's response was I don't want to talk to you until you see a therapist . So my dad ended up obliging her what a fucking simp . And he went once . Okay , once . My dad hates therapy , I hate therapy . I was in therapy for 10 years . Didn't do shit for me , okay .
Now you're back in therapy . You hate the therapist that you had . I had several therapists .
Listen to me very carefully . You said you hate therapy .
What you mean is that the people that were applying therapy were maybe not good and therefore you hate them . Maybe therapy is actually good , but it wasn't applied in a proper way in order to benefit you , when you really think about it .
Yp was some type of in my eyes therapy . You're giving me compliments again . No , I'm just saying right , because we talked about the fucking problems . We were fucking happy , that's right , but absolutely . But you did it in a certain way , right , not calling out , really , it was more like , uh , a friend's way , you know , discussing shit .
Yeah , discussing problems everyone was having . This is kind of like a therapy . Right , because you're talking about fucking issues you're having in your life , that's right . Uh , real problems with the world .
It doesn't , I guess , apply the pressure , right , that they fucking drill and fucking drill and fucking drill until you fucking explode and fucking release what's on your fucking mind . Yeah , yeah , yeah . The one thing I can say about therapists is they fucking put pressure , dude .
They put pressure to get deep down in your fucking soul and basically rip out the fucking problem . And in my experience , I fucking hated that . You hated that approach . I hated that fucking approach Because if I didn't want to talk about something , they go oh , come on now , open up a little bit . What is this ? What is that ?
Bitch , maybe I'm not ready to fucking .
You wanted to be tricked into it like YP , right .
Not tricked into it like YP , right , not tricked into it . Don't make me say something I'm not ready to fucking say , dude , what's wrong ?
with you , unless they give you a chicken parm , oh shit .
What is wrong with you , bro ? I'm not going to lie . It took a little bit for me to open up NYP dude .
Just a little bit of a couple of slices . Fuck you a couple of chicken . You don't rush someone ?
yeah , you don't , but these people , these people are trained to dig and dig . Yeah until someone explodes and opens up . That's my eyes of therapy . I hated it fine and then when family therapy happened oh shit , yeah , that was a fucking nightmare , john and me going at it , my mom and me going at .
And then , when family therapy happened oh shit , yeah , that was a fucking nightmare , john and me going at it , my mom and me going at it . Family therapy is a very , very bad idea . Is trust an insult or what ? I can see where you're coming from with it now , after that analogy .
Totally missed our conversation . Man , it's only an insult . It would be an insult to you , but to the , to the person , okay , trust a cheap way of asking for skipping patients .
And the long , the long lesson hold up , hold up , hold up yeah , just trust me , bro , like I got this man , I already did this man no , but the thing is that , like the thing when someone does not understand something and you're in a potential position to try to explain something , I feel like there needs to be some kind of elements of trust , because there's
certain things that they're going to be enduring that they don't understand .
Hold on . Okay , let's use the analogy we talked about Because Tully was not here . Okay , you missed it . I heard everything . You heard it . Say it again we talked about the relationship , right . Yeah . You trust a woman , right and this is how I got to understand where Eldar was coming from Right , she cheats on you .
After 15 years you never really fucking knew that woman . It's not about trust . You never really knew her . She's not the person you thought she was . That's how I got to understand where Eldar was coming from .
It's not about trust well , yeah , I mean , just throughout that time you guys were just on different like pages , you know it's not about trust , it's about knowing the person well , like are you talking about for the person that's surprised at that , that the other person cheated on them , or what I'm talking about ?
yeah , it's not about trust , it's about do you really know that person . It's about getting to know that person , uh and what ?
what ? When it comes to what , though , like what do you what ?
do you say relationship right ? Yeah your relationship with a girl .
It's not about it's not about trust .
It's definitely not so use our experience right here . It's about agreeing and disagreeing . It's not about trust . It's about getting to know the person and understanding where they're coming from .
Okay .
So that's what I believe it is . I see where all that's coming from now About certain situations . So you agree that relationship trust is dead .
Well , yeah , I mean yeah , okay , trust has been dead .
Okay , trust has been dead , but that's only particularly for that Correct . For everything . Okay , you've been out for a minute . Okay , so trust has been dead for everything . Totally , that's what he just said . Trust has been dead for everything .
Because I explained the relationship and he goes yeah , trust is dead in general . The way that we're talking about it now is that like , yeah , like , trust is a very like you know yeah , it's cheap , bro , it's cheap bro .
Yeah , it's cheap , it's cheap . So when you start Harris , so you know what ? Because I said in a relationship . I think your social media has to be changed . What do you mean ? And I'm okay with it . What do you mean ?
It's not . Harris is in good hands what should it be ?
Harris ? Trust is dead man . Trust is dead . No , what If you were to change that statement ? What would you actually make it ? If we're talking about that trust is actually dead right , because we're making a statement saying Harris is in good hands , like , is he really ? So what should your social media be ?
I don't know Harris is with good people . I don't fucking know . No , I don't know Harris is with good people I don't fucking know .
No , okay , I think it should be a question instead .
Is Harris in good hands ? Yeah , but that thing's a powerful thing . But do you understand why , or no ? Yeah , you're making other people wonder , and you too .
Because that's actually how you feel .
Are you actually in good hands , harris ? Damn , you're really changing shit up , bro , you know , because for the past fucking going on two months , yeah , you're in good hands , you're in good hands .
And then the mindset has changed a little bit well , I think it's , it's naturally should change , because as you grow , as this grows , as we continue to grow , there are realities in the whole thing , in the whole situation . I think we should situation , I think we should evolve and I think the question is more appropriate to what we're trying to accomplish .
Damn , Mike's really missing a really good fucking podcast .
Mike always listens as well , just like my friend Joe . Not the other Joe , but Joe , you know what I'm saying . It's your friend Joe . You know what I'm saying .
I'm viral nation , exactly .
So yeah , so that's why I think it's only appropriate for us to change your thing to a question Is Harris in good hands ? Because I think it's a lifelong question that you have to keep asking yourself , right ? Because ?
I see where you're coming from , because For example .
I'll give you another example , which is a cool phenomenon that is happening Totally , sending you videos , right , you're watching those videos Absolutely and you know what happened today . You watched those videos and you extracted some stuff from it .
I've been extracting it for the past , since Monday .
Whatever , I don't know why you want to give yourself props on this . That's not the point that I'm trying to make . How long you've been doing this . For Trying to make a point . Totally sent you those videos . You watched those videos and guess what happened today ?
When we were going over the videos that you watched , you bashed Tully about certain concepts that he was telling you using a reference of those videos . Is that a conundrum or no ? A little bit , yeah , it is . Talk to me about that . Totally sent you the videos , yeah , to watch . He's never watched him . No , no , no . But he right , he .
He understands what the content is right there's . He agrees with the content , he knows what the content is right and what these guys yeah right , he sends it to you because he wants you to learn from the content . Right , you come back , you extract some stuff and you then yourself challenge totally within the content .
I see what you're saying .
Is that ? A conundrum or what .
It is a conundrum , because what is happening ? I think you need to watch some of these videos , bro . You might have something that works for you . What I'm getting to identify right is different people . Different things work for different people .
I'm going somewhere else completely . I'm talking about trust . Stick on the topic of trust . Okay , Right . Some of the behavior that you've displayed counteracts trusting Tully . Yeah , even though Tully is sending you videos to watch because he wishes you well , he wants you to level up .
Yeah , I get that right , yeah , but what I'm getting from the videos , right , yeah , all right , these are people just like Tully . Let's put that out there . That have been very successful .
Yeah , okay , okay , alleg these are people just like totally let's put that out there that have been very successful .
Yeah , okay , okay , uh , allegedly , allegedly okay .
We'll put that out there , right uh , because you know , everybody defines success differently . Yes , we don't know them . Well , we don't know them . No , do you know them more than you know ? Totally ?
no , oh , you don oh you don't , but I kind of like putting it to Tully man oh , I know , you do you know ? They say this ain't right boy . Yeah , what do you got to say about that ? About what that ? They said you were wrong bro .
About what .
About the different ways . I think it was about the intro a little bit , it doesn't matter .
Yeah , it doesn't matter . I remember there was a couple things , but yeah , but uh , I'm not gonna lie , mm-hmm . You know , you were really excited when that happened . Yeah , I was Okay cool , because you know totally fucking would would a fucking grill into me . He was grilling into me like yo this is terrible , man .
You're doing it wrong . Man . Well , guess what man ? I was like ? Yeah , I was excited bro . I was like you know , now I got something to fucking contradict to you . Jab you motherfucker .
What was this ? I don't even remember .
Yeah , to be honest , I gotta go through my notes . I'm not drunk dude . Yeah to be honest I got to go through my notes . You're drunk , so forget about it . I'm not drunk . Dude , might be a little tipsy . There were a couple of things , yeah .
That was contradicting of how you said what you said . Leaving a voicemail is one of them .
You know what I mean .
Your voicemail yeah , you know what I mean , and stuff like that . Obviously Tully has his methods , Like they said . Right , yeah , but it's just . You were very excited , I was very excited but there was a reason right ?
I finally got to contradict him . I knew something that I could throw back at him . Why did you feel like you needed that ?
What did he know ? I'm confused .
One of the things was the voicemail . Voicemail , you know .
In the sense where I was saying that I disagree with doing it Another thing . It's completely different than what the video was saying Hold on hold on the video is talking about . We're talking about effectiveness to get people to call you back , yeah , right , yeah , for example , leaving a voicemail to get you to call back the reason I was .
I don't agree with , for example , someone like him . If you have to leave physically , leave the voicemail doing it , because it takes time . Yeah . Right . It takes time and to me , success is not measured by the number of people that call him back and the number of , for example , like meetings and books , like when we were doing that .
The goal for me at that time was for him to call as many people to get as many conversations going as possible . It was a volume game and if you have to leave a voicemail to every single lead , you're not doing that . A voicemail , the time it takes to leave a voicemail , is the equivalent of probably at least making one call .
You either make 50 calls and leave 50 voicemails or you make 100 calls , which is why I disagree with that . I didn't disagree at all with the concept of it .
I'm going to point something else out here .
Did you understand ? What he just said .
I absolutely did . I'm an experienced . I'm not ready for that . But I'm also going to point something else out here . Don't get mad man . I'm just stating that man . Alright . The way in the beginning of my current speech it's automatically asking them are they open to a meeting to learn more ?
And I've talked to a couple people that immediately when I get to that opening line they jump in and say no , and I've been hung up on that specific meet . They say not to fucking do that . You don't want to jump in the meeting first . You want to open with uh , you know immediately like uh , how you doing , are you in currently in sales ?
You know , are you currently still doing real estate , something like that ? Uh , you want to get them to answer and then immediately jump in to start the conversation , immediately opening up . Uh , would you be open to a meeting ? They say is not a well , good starting point .
First off , that that's definitely not what the script says . Uh at all , doesn't jump , jump into a meeting at all . It's not like I'm saying call , saying hey you down for a meeting , no , okay , bye right ?
no , it's not , but there's context there , so first of all , you gotta understand that before you start making any kind of explanations . I understand that there's context behind this .
I understand that , like he could be hearing something you also understand .
He's a cheap hooker bro hold on hold on , I'll be right back . I'm getting speech . I'm getting speech yeah , there's , yeah , there's a lot of like he could be . I'm getting speech .
You're getting speech , I'm getting speech . Yeah , there's a lot of . He could be looking at something . I know what they're talking about .
Of course I know this , yeah , but you have to respect the enthusiasm . I do have to respect the enthusiasm .
The last part is supposed to be talking about the meeting . You're not supposed to even do it in the middle of it . Okay .
You're not supposed to . Who's saying that ?
Every fucking person I watched said that is the last part .
Okay .
You don't focus on the meeting , you don't talk about the meeting . That's the closing , okay . That is the meeting you don't talk about the meeting . That's the closing . Okay , that is the closing . Let's use . Whose name do we want to use right now ? Eldar , you want to use Eldar , of course , hey , is this Eldar ? It is hey , eldar .
It's Harris from Letterfriend , the handwritten letter service . The reason for my call today is to see if you'd be open to scheduling a short call to learn more about some of the ways we use handwritten mail to help real estate agents and investors get higher reply rates . Okay , first of all , a short call is basically asking for a meeting .
Yeah , they say not to do that . Yeah at all . Yeah , everyone I watched , they said not to do that .
Okay , are you making ?
cold calls . No , I'm not making cold calls , but most of the people I am calling . It was a long time ago , but nonetheless , they're warm . On the colder side , fine .
Okay , give it to him On the colder side .
Alright , right , most of the people I've noticed with this speech , at least for the past couple days , like yeah , no , thanks , bye , because it's immediately asking are they open to a call ? Without even I don't even get to the part where , since we last spoke , we actually lowered our pricing and made our services a bit easier to take advantage of .
I'm just going to state that now . Okay , I don't even get to that part before , like no , okay , thanks , bye , no , thanks , bye . Yeah , you know , I think it should be . This is Harris from Letter Friend . Right , since we last spoke , we should change it up a little bit , change it in the direction .
Instead of reason for my call today , right , the reason for my call today . Since we last spoke , we actually lowered our pricing , made our services a bit easier to take advantage of . Would you be open to a short call to learn more about some of the ways we use handwritten mail to help real estate agents switch ?
up . So you want to switch up one sentence back and forth exactly and then and then you put worst case scenario .
We'll show you what your peers are doing and ship you out some free samples . It's in the wrong direction . You want the third part ?
This is music to my ears .
The third part .
It is music to mine as well . Why , why ?
Because I love this kind of stuff . Why do you love this kind of stuff ? Why ? Why do you love this kind of stuff ? What .
It's good . Yeah , it's very good . Paris we might have different reasons as to why we like it . We probably do .
Okay , start explaining , man , really . Yeah , I'm ready for it . Start explaining , I totally have to go first .
I have to go first .
You want me to go first . Yeah , go first . First of all , first of all , I'm happy you're thinking Uh-huh , okay , this is the're thinking Uh-huh , okay , uh-huh , this is the most important thing . Uh-huh . Number two . I'm happy that you're challenging .
Yeah .
That's very good .
I'm not trying to . I'm just trying to say we should switch it up . No , I get it , no , but this .
What you're doing is you're actually challenging . Yeah , saying this is very good . You know what I mean , but I hear but coming . No , there is no buts . You know what I mean . There is enthusiasm .
Yeah , you know what I'm saying and I like it well , I'm trying to take everything I learned from the conversation .
Yes , and switch it . Yes , I think that you're listening and paying attention and some of the things that you want to challenge and stuff like that . It's perfectly fine .
Again , I think it goes back to trust , but go ahead yeah , yeah , no , I mean I , I agree with what elder is saying , um , but in in a scenario like this , um , the reason I'm having you say what , like I , I I have reasons why I'm having you say what . What you say right .
And when it comes to someone being good or bad , for example , at cold , at cold calling or making calls , there's all people at different levels Right . And if you're going to coach somebody , for example , right .
If I hired a rep that's been making cold calls for the last five years and they were successful at it and now I just need to teach them about the product and maybe help refine some things , that's different . Right . I would be telling them to say different things , different , right . I would be telling them to say different things .
But for a person who wants to get off the phone as soon as possible and not have a conversation , I wouldn't be advising them at the beginning to have conversations , because they're going to end up in a similar way of that , the one that we listen to last okay , so so let me ask you so . So hold on .
So my reasoning , as it's telling you what to do things . I'm not going to tell you like the like the most , for example , like the , the the best , like effective , like like the most effective , like highest performing strategy .
That requires you to be knowledgeable about the product , about how things work , about what pain points to people that you're speaking to might have , what problems they have right , how they typically go about buying , like just a whole bunch of things , right ?
You can't throw that at my opinion at least , you can't throw that at someone right off the bat who doesn't know anything . Right To me , there's a progression and as somebody progresses up , they can get into more complicated . For example , this gets my dick hard . Do you understand this , or no ?
I'm sorry . Whoa , whoa , whoa , come over here , sit over here , come here yeah .
So when someone says something , for example , my goal in sending you these videos is one just to get someone else's take on , for example , things , and a lot of it is also generally things that most of the things I'll agree with . There's definitely some things that I'll disagree with , but that's also okay , yeah it's not going to be perfect .
Yeah that , but my main goal was just to get you interested in all this kind of stuff , and it seems like I've accomplished that .
You have , but I'd actually like like monday I want to take my leads ? yeah , that I currently have . Still , and I want to kind of if we can see what happens if I uh say uh , hey , is this eldar ? Yes , it says hi , who is this ? Hey , eldar , it's har from Letterfriend , the handwritten letter service , the reason for my call today .
Since we last spoke , we actually lowered our pricing and made our services a bit easier to take advantage of . Would you be open to scheduling a short call to learn about some of the ways we use handwritten mail to help real estate agents and investors get higher reply rates ?
Would you be open for a short five 10 minute call Worst case scenario , we'll show you what your peers are doing and ship you out some free samples . How does tomorrow or Tuesday work ? Yeah , it sounds a little more like I'm not trying to jump into the meeting . Yeah , like they are some my , some , my coldld leads , but they're still warm , as you said .
Yeah , so they still know what our service is . You're just explaining what are . Hey , the first thing I believe you want to let these people know is yeah , what I've learned , what I want to try she's going to be very good is I want to let these people know yeah , our prices did go down .
Yeah , and you know our service has been easy , is easier now to use . That's the first thing I want to do , because I never get to that point . Uh , these past couple calls is to let them know . Yeah , since we last talked , our prices did go down . Yeah , and our service is now easier to use .
Yeah , how is it easier to use ? Oh , our platform oh , how long have we had our platform for that's a great question .
How long have we ?
it's easier to use right that means before when we last spoke with them you have to be careful , because you'll ask I know , all right , yeah he'll ask you things you might not know I don't know how long have we ever been on a phone , you ?
tell me , because you said that your services are easier to use .
You're a liar .
So when we spoke three years ago , or four years ago .
Right Crespo's not here I'm channeling .
Crespo , the services were harder to use . I want to know how are they easier to use ?
Well , you know , I'm going to be honest with you , sir .
You'll find out on Monday when you book the meeting .
I just started working here , but my direct mail specialist has been here for 10 years , so you want to set me up by lying first . I'm not setting you up , sir .
You're saying that the services are easier to use Absolutely .
My direct mail specialist can explain no , so you're setting me up then right by lying . I'm not . My direct mail specialist can explain this information .
So you're setting me up , then right .
By lying . I'm not setting you up , sir . I'm not setting you up , sir , no .
Well , no , you're setting up your direct mail . Specialist .
My direct mail specialist has 10 years of experience . Yeah , has been here for the past 10 years and he can fill you in with all that information .
That's what I'm saying . Then you're setting up the direct mail specialist , don't shy away from that , say yeah , I am , yeah , I am .
You know why ?
Because he has 10 years of experience .
He knows what the hell he's doing .
Sir , that's right If you give him 5 , 10 minutes of your time he can fill you in on all the way our prices went down and how our platform platform is now easier to use , sir .
Yes , oh my god this is the 20th . I love the energy when the person's in the line he's like oh okay , we'll do this , call back sir , this is the 22nd century sir , this is .
We started over 20 years ago , sir 22nd century , 21st century , fuck you . Fuck you this is 21st century , sir , it doesn't matter .
We started over 20 years ago , sir .
Things have evolved .
That's right . What's the matter with you , goddammit , if ?
you're interested in a call with my direct mail specialist , he can explain all this to you .
I'm not because you're a filthy liar .
You're a liar , sir . Kiss my white ass , okay .
Oh man .
Talk to her or nah .
Oh , nah , that's your idea of an open speech . Don't worry Listen .
I like the energy . I like it too . I like the energy .
But I really think I need to get to that point , because most of these people , yeah , they remember who we are .
I'm happy that you have a point that you're trying to get to . I just want to try it , man . I can't wait for you to try it .
I'm sure last time I changed things around it sucked ass , Sucked real ass .
Listen , you got to a point where you understand that you can try things , try here , try there , remove things , add things and then you excited about it . This is a good thing .
I watch five different people . I'm excited to see it in action Because I watch five different people and they all said , speaking about scheduling a call , the first thing there's not a lot of success with it . All of them said the same thing about calling there's not a lot of success with it .
And I'm sure the couple people I did speak to a lot of them hung up immediately when I said the reason for my call today is to see if you'd be opening to schedule a short call to learn more about some of the ways we use handwritten mail , because I jumped into scheduling a call , I believe , and they don't want to hear that .
Okay , good .
I still think when we get up this cold call thing , uh , we should mention roll the dice . I'm excited and I think that totally might hear your , uh , your plea , and it's not going to be the hawk to a shit , bro . Yeah , I'm just pointing that out there , bro , your idea , yeah , no , call bro . No , totally , yes , call bro .
Totally yes . As you can see , sometimes you have to go around different places and different detours in order to get to maybe trust what the hell are you doing with your hand ? Bro , maybe trust . I think this might have been a good example of something like it .
Yeah .
You used YP Food .
What the hell are you talking about ? No one even mentioned YP Food with this whole entire fucking shit , man . They didn't . Yp Food was tax-free , first of all . Yeah , but Josh .
Brown was free on YouTube , wasn't he ?
But that has nothing to do with YP Food man . Everything's kind of free on YouTube , bro . You watch it unless you rent the fucking movie .
Yeah , but you didn't find it on your own accord .
No , I didn't .
Yeah , no , I didn't . Somebody else put you on it . Yeah , I don't know who that was but maybe you do .
It was this guy , anatoly . Yeah , I don't know how to pronounce your last name , dude Schuster .
Fuck you man , fuck you man . Good stuff , guys . Tell me what the trust thing is though man . I totally get what you're talking about Trust is dead man Trust is dead . He's channeling Mike .
There's no such thing as trust man . There's no such thing . Yeah , Mike told me to tell you something . Fuck you , Hold on , hold on . He's got something else to say .
Hold on one second . We have to call him Go fuck yourself . Yeah , hold on one second . I think we have to call him Guys , I'll call him man .
I got it . I'll speak to him . He's my pops man . Your call has been forwarded to voicemail . Totally , you give him a try .
Would you give me 10 if he picks ?
up . Yeah , I'll give you 10 . I'll throw a 5 on that .
Wow , 15 . Not bad .
If he picks up , I'm going to be pissed as fuck . He's picking up ?
No , he's not bro , he's walking to the to be pissed . He's picking up ? No , he's not . He's walking to the phone right now .
He's sleeping , your call has been forwarded . Stop it . Should we go around again Listen ?
Mike , a lot of the times when we talk about these types of things and concepts and whatever the words that we use a lot of the times in society , he kills it , he's dead .
He's right . Well , totally has gotten that off mic too , because he just said that before you came back when I brought up that relationship shit Again trust is one of those things where it's a very lazy way of saying like hey . I see where you're coming from , because you get to know someone .
Yeah , that's when you start trusting them , but you get to know them . You know what they're about .
You know what the fuck it's not trust you , just know them . There's no surprises , but no one fucking really thinks hard enough to know it ain't trust that's why , like in the relationship , you shouldn't lead with the word trust . Oh , you trust me this and this . And the third no , you should lead with do I know you ?
Yeah , because if you really led with trust , right , yeah , you meet someone three months later , oh , we're married now . Yeah , because I trust them , these people that wing the fucking marriages . Dude , you were together for what ? Three months . Then you get married and you say , oh no , I know her . Yeah . You don't fucking know her , you don't know nothing .
You don't know nothing . It takes , I believe , a minimum of two fucking years .
Six pounds of pressure to break a nose .
What ? What the fuck bro ? It takes time , bro . You can't just . You know what I'm saying . I do know what you're saying , but you also know those stupid people that go out there , that go to Vegas and get married .
Do you agree that the statement should be removed that Harris is in good hands and actually ?
is .
Harris in good hands , yeah , what people really think . Yeah , and also you , do you really think that you're in good hands or not ? And if so , why ? What are your reasons ? And I'd like to know those reasons . I already told you , but you gave very small ones . You never , sure .
I have some time with you , sure , and I never did you wrong , sure you never straight me wrong , bro , sure you never , just because I have a good record with you doesn't mean I won't straight you wrong sometime down the line , but you never know that until it happens . Listen .
I was going to cut your finger off man , I know that , but that was my stupidity . Well , yeah , I was going to let you learn from that yeah well , I guess you could say right the way I see it , right , you know someone until you don't Wow Because you really think ? About it right .
Why do you have to ?
do it , it's a funny phenomenon right .
But when you really think about it right , you can think you really knew someone , like we were talking about . You married to a woman for 15 years . You thought you knew her , and then something happens and you really think I don't really know that fucking person . You thought you knew her , yeah .
And then something happens and you really think I don't really know that fucking person . Who the fuck is this ? Yeah , yeah , you know what I'm saying . Yeah , you can really think you know someone .
I don't have , like I'm not sitting here right now thinking about what the fuck is Catherine doing ? Yeah , you know what I mean . Like I don't give a fuck . Like I don't have to think about that . She's sleeping with some other guy .
But when you really think deep down , sure something a couple years down the road can fucking happen , yeah , but no , I know .
What the fuck are you saying ? No , it cannot fucking happen . I get that . How did you fucking conclude ? That I get that right telling you is that nothing will happen , because I know the person Now , unless some stuff starts to happen . But I'm fucking in an intimate relationship with this woman .
I live with her . I ought to fucking day to day .
I should see her fucking mood and see how she is . Bro , I'm not saying Catherine , right ? I'm talking about us , right ?
That's gay . I'm not talking about that time when we did the Christmas together .
What Christmas , man ? Or are you talking about Thanksgiving in my house ? Oh my God , that's disgusting man . There was no stuff in your note .
You guys have a sick fucking mind man .
Hey , is that creativity or no ?
Yeah , it's creativity .
How so ? You're fucked , we're fucked , no , you're fucked .
You're bringing it up . He looks like Sinbad crazy right now . Who the fuck is this Sinbad bro ? I gotta show him . Yeah , you gotta show him who the fuck is .
Sinbad .
Is he another UFC ?
motherfucker .
It's something like that . Yeah , it's identical you're right yeah .
Oh my god .
Like John , I can predict a lot of the shape , most of the shape he does , john who Crespo .
Not Schuster . Same shape , head bro .
It does look like him . Let me see this real quick . Let me see here , look .
Fuck you bro , fuck you bro . But why the fuck did you think ? I was talking about Catherine , bro ? We were talking about us , it doesn't ?
matter what it is .
If you ever left us out there .
Oh my god , what that was bad . What the fuck happened If ? You ever left us that way .
Oh my god , what that looks bad . What the fuck happened .
Have you ever left us ? That would be in a couple of months , right , oh ?
yeah .
Oh damn , that's fucked up , bro . How old is he he ?
was young , 67 . Oh , okay , he was due for one .
you're saying Yo , I've seen 30-year-olds have heart attacks . What the fuck ? Yeah . So you were saying . I'm saying bro , are we on to something here ? Yeah , we're on to something . Trust is dead bro . Everyone listen to this . Trust is dead . Trust is dead .
It's an insult . It's not that it's dead , it's alive and thriving , bro . You know everybody uses that word , but it's insulting .
I see where you're coming . I don't want you to fucking trust me .
I want you to ask me enough questions so we can get on the same page , so we can know what the fuck to expect . Like Harris , is this character and I can expect this from his character or not Everyone out there .
I'm just going to state this . I'm talking to our listeners now , everyone out there . You had a lot of those . Stop using trust , the word trust , the word trust . Okay , think deep down . Do you actually know this person ? And if you do , then that's great . The word trust is dead .
Yeah , it's not necessary .
And if you are using it , if you know them , you can predict who they are and what they will do .
I love when Harris gets to this point where he's saying a bunch of shit . He can't properly explain it , but it makes sense and he's confident about it because he had a few drinks oh fuck you man .
Do you understand that he's bridging the gap on us , hey man ?
So you're saying I should have a few drinks before I make my calls ?
Right , because , like , is he not bridging the gap ? Are you talking about for himself or for others ? For others .
You understand we're not supposed to be understood , so hold up . We're done Like we're old heads , so hold up , yeah .
He'll bridge the . So hold up .
So hold up , maybe I should have a couple of drinks before I make the call . It's possible ? Listen , I don't think so , because you were not drunk . When we talked about the whole videos and stuff and everything that you extracted from it , you were perfectly sober , so I think you could do it sober easily , and it's not courage that you need .
We talked about courage and actually courage is dead as well .
Well , you need a little bit of liquid , liquid courage .
But again , at the end of the day , what we're talking about here , where you don't need liquid courage in order , to be oh Mike just called me back .
Why the fuck did he call ?
you .
Yo Mike . Oh damn , I see how it is , bro Yo Mike .
You last on the list , boy , fuck you . Pops Yo , mike .
Oh damn , I see how it is bro , yo Mike you last night , liz boy , fuck you pops . Yeah , listen , you call everyone but me . Harris , intentionally or unintentionally , has channeled you during the podcast . Oh , wow , we're talking about the word trust , hold on .
Hold on Time out . I challenged him , I channeled him right . Hold on Time out . I challenged him , I channeled him right .
You channeled him I channeled him ?
Yeah , but he doesn't fucking call me .
Yeah , that's true , he calls everyone else . No , no , he called totally me and then you . He's going to call you next if I was going to pick up son man . You were first . Remember that you were first , I was second .
I called you first , Harris .
You missed the call , dude . No , I didn't , bro , there's no , call you owe him a fucking apology boy .
You owe him a fucking apology boy .
Yeah , Listen , Mike he channeled you and he said that the word trust is dead . Oh wow , Mike has no idea what we're talking about , Mike .
You're an idiot . He said . Mike has no idea what you're talking about , Mike . Why did he extract that ? If you weren't present here for all the things that we said , why did he extract that ? Trust is dead .
Why did he extract it ?
Yeah , I know you have to dig deep because you've been sick with COVID , but try to dig deep . Ebola .
Is it like something that I would know ?
You would know this . Yeah , you should know this . I mean , if you really think about the word trust and what trust entails , why is trust dead ?
Well , Mike still uses the word trust .
It doesn't actually really work . Why not To get full ?
trust is dead . Well , mike still uses the word trust . It doesn't actually like really work . Why not like to get full trust is impossible why , because we always have our own horse in the race uh-huh and we still think we know best until , like , we fully commit so .
So why do every ? Why are so many people ? So why do people actually use that as as a thing to like , as a ploy , to get somebody to trust somebody like hey , just trust me why do people do that ?
yeah because they don't know that it's bad they don't know that it's bad . Is that a shortcut ?
is that a shortcut ?
what to like gain somebody's trust to use that word or what ?
yeah , to like to almost like say hey , let's skip the process of reasoning and try to really get you to understand what's actually going on . Just trust me , bro , you don't have to understand what I understand , just trust me . That's a fucking insult , bro .
I think most of those words that are used anytime you can use any word , it's going to be a disrespectful thing Because 99% of the people or whatever you want to call it , a very high amount of people don't actually back what that word means or understand it .
Okay , yeah , I agree with that .
And they don't use trust in the sense of like the person who really knows what it means lives to that highest potential right , tries to be the best version of himself towards himself and others , like an enlightened or person who's working towards enlightenment .
The way he's going to use that word trust is going to be very , very cautious , because he doesn't understand the severity of it . But , a regular flipper head is not going to be able to . It's just a word that it's like a tool in your arsenal that you have .
We have to be very careful . We found out that we have to actually be very careful using that word , because it's actually an insult .
Really , harry said this .
Well , Harry said that the trust is dead . Yeah , Because at the end of the day , if you need to trust someone , it's because you don't understand someone . If you actually know the person's character , you don't have to trust them . You know exactly what's going to happen next Sick . Yeah , that's for sure . You know what I'm saying .
Oh yeah .
Chewie .
All right , all right , mike , you missed a really good fucking podcast .
He said you missed a really good fucking podcast . You have to listen to this one man . You will alright . Thank you , mike alright , enjoy . I got a package in the mail and it's something that I ordered . No , it didn't , but it said fuck you to Penny . When I opened it , it was a magnet grabber . Did it say fuck you ?
No , it didn't , but it said fuck you to Penny . When I opened it , it was a magnet grabber . It's a stick that opens up like this right , it's a telescopic thing that opens up . It's small , six inches , and then it opens up to be like two feet long , okay , and at the end there's a magnet on it right . When I opened it she was actually curious .
My dog Penny , was curious what are you doing ? I opened it . I said like this I held in front of her and she got very scared and I'm like oh shit , she thought that I was going to hit her with it . Oh shit , bro , you know what I'm saying . So she has something internally that she doesn't trust me that I'm not going to hit her .
Pam wins .
Whatever experience that she went through , where she saw a stick , that long hitting her but how long you ever had her , since she was a puppy ? yeah , I did exactly so . Maybe something that was instilled to her before I had her as a puppy , right ?
Somebody else , eight weeks before that , instilled that , or maybe something , even from the parents , the genes or whatever that . As soon as I opened that stick and she saw that thing on the end of it and I held it , thought you were gonna play baseball , I her , and I was like yo , where is this coming from ? I've never hit her with a stick .
I've never hit her , like you know , I've never abused her or anything . But she's like yo and I , slowly what I did was she got scared . She got very scared Really . I took the stick . I actually have it here . You want to see it ? Don't fucking do it . Okay , go ahead .
Okay , for context , I already tried to ease her into it by showing her that it's not harmful . She smelled it and stuff like that . But she was still startled when she saw it . She's never seen this thing before . I've never seen this thing before as well , open it . When I first opened it like this , she got very scared .
Yeah , exactly , she don't care anymore because I desynthesized her . Well , if you poke her or hit her with it . She's obviously going to be like what the hell ?
she doesn't take me seriously , man . She's like what is that ?
yeah , she's perfectly fine , but you should have seen it . It was crazy . I was like what the hell is this coming from ? She really thought she like went down like this with her head , tail , went down , like like , please , like this you know what'd you do like well , I didn't do anything .
I was like what the hell is happening , you know I know , but you were saying that you did something , oh and then I I opened it , I let her smell it , I put it down . You know she's like okay , this is not a threatening device , it's going to hurt me . But you see , what I'm trying to say is that she didn't trust me . She has history with me .
She has two years with me , right , I never hit her like that . I never used a stick of this magnitude or whatever , with a thing at the end . Check it out , and what is this for ? It's a magnet . You pick up little things , yeah . But why'd you buy this ? For ? By accident , I didn't buy it .
It was in my cart because I was looking for something else , but it was purchased by accident . When it came in , I was like what is this ? So as soon as I opened it , she was like what the hell ? Oh yeah , she's completely fine right now .
Bro , she doesn't give a shit anymore , and Arch would would not be afraid of this . I don't care .
So what I'm saying is that , like she had that somewhere else , you know .
Yo , I'm wondering what the hell the breeders did yeah exactly when .
See , when I showed it to her , she then like , okay , now she's trusting that this thing is okay . But is she really trusting me ? No , it's not a matter , she don't trust me because as soon as I opened it , she associated with some experience that was bad for her , that maybe somebody hit her with a stick or something like that .
Oh shit , you see , look , she don't care , See . No , what I'm telling you is I think the breeders did something to keep them in line .
This is what I'm saying is that we're going back to trust she trust .
She did not trust me , even though she had plenty experiences with her , even though I never hit her like that , even though I never used the stick of this nature in order to reprimand her you can't say she doesn't know you though well , what I'm saying is that she , quote-unquote knows me , but she really doesn't , because she never knew me with this stick .
so whatever experience she has , she went off of that up until I showed her . Look it , it's non-threatening , it's perfectly fine , look at it .
What is that exactly ? What is that exactly ?
It's a magnet , it's a magnet stick . Yeah , you pick up , like you know , like look what's magnetic , Come here , Do you have that thing ?
the rod of your dick , piercing on it my vape .
See if you can pick up my vape .
Take the thing off dude Wait , is there anything metal there ? No , the same metal .
Is this metal Stone man Hold up there ?
Oh , what the fuck your favorite ?
toy , your favorite toy , here we go .
Fuck you man .
Look , we got the favorite toy . Oh Penny . What the hell are you doing ? Penny's a woman man . Now what's your excuse ? God damn it .
Love it , Arch . What are you ? Doing man Arch is interested man , yeah , leave it .
So yeah , so trust . You see , yeah , innately you're not supposed so trust . You see , yeah , innately you're not supposed to trust .
Arch I know that I think you were saying this before that like there's certain dogs that like , do you say like a dog trusts you if they let you like rub their belly or whatever right , like they open up like that , yeah , like , yeah , arch is never scared of like to do that , or Penny or anybody , but some dogs have been hit , they won't do that .
Oh no , of course not .
Yeah , if they've been , you know , abused and stuff like that . Arch trusts you , dude . Oh yeah , yeah . What I'm saying is that , arch , that surprised me . I'm opening up a new object completely randomly . She's standing next to me . He's about to hit me with it .
Let's be honest , she might not know what it is and she gets freaked out by it .
You see what I'm saying there's plenty of items that I could pull out right now out of a room where she's like she doesn't know she won't react .
I'll put a leaf blower or something that looks 10 times scarier .
Let's do this right . My cat Grayson .
Here we go Our , our cat . Is this an imaginary cat or ?
the real cat . The real cat , it exists , yeah . So we eat off TV trays most of the time and watch TV , but whatever you pull that from what does that mean ? we eat off of TV trays , tv dinners , no , like trays . You know what I'm talking about . You put it in front of the couch , you sit down and eat off it .
Well , every time we pull one of these out of the holder , grayson immediately runs away Like he's scared of the fucking tray . We do this every fucking day , yeah , but he reacts the same fucking way . Yeah , what the fuck , there you go . What the fuck , there you go . But he's a very skittish cat , right ? He wasn't adopted until he was like a year .
You guys also didn't take enough time in order to acclimate the cat towards that thing . Right , like I said , I showed this thing , I let her smell it , I put it down . She , you know slowly , was like okay , this is non-threatening device . You know , it's almost becoming a toy now because they want to bite it .
But grayson is very skittish , right , you can't go up to him and just pet him , yeah , but you should leave that tray out whatever this tray out is , it's out so she can smell it , it's out there's three of them out in front of the fucking couch dude . My dad uses it as a as a shelf for most of his paperwork . Yeah , there's just more .
Yeah , you know I leave the tray out all weekend , but if my dad's on my guy closing I'm put it back , man okay , what is this tray ?
Can you take a picture of it ?
It's a TV tray . It's the fold-out fucking table that you put down and you fucking eat off of oh , so a fold-out table . That's not what it's called bro .
It's called a TV tray .
It's called a fucking TV tray .
It's about that big . They function differently .
It's about that big . Everyone's fucking got one . You obviously don't . It's a fucking TV tray bro .
Okay , fine , I got it , Bro .
TV tray tables , bro . You eat in front of the fucking TV . If you don't want to fucking sit at a table , you want to watch TV and eat . Bro . I'm calling you . Alright , Goddamn , where were you ?
You don't want to fucking sit at a table . You want to eat , watch TV and eat , bro , all right , goddamn , where were you ? What do we have ? Do we have any final thoughts on this ?
Yeah , you were raised in a fucking bunker . Dude In the barn . You were raised in a fucking barn . You don't know what to be crazy .
Yeah , guys , anything else on trust .
Trust is dead . Man else on trust . Trust is dead man .
Stop saying anything else on trust , bro , trust is dead , it done , died . That's a lazy man's dinner , yeah man .
Totally , yeah , I mean .
What do you have , man ? Because I think this topic is so broad that it pertains to so many of our illnesses .
Yeah , I feel like like how do we view like trust if you're in a desperate or like a bad situation where you're not capable of like thinking or like doing anything like that , like what happens then ?
oh then , trust almost becomes an illusion that is so influential for you to then , if you're desperate enough to take yeah , the thing is that , like , if someone's in a bad place at the moment , it's not a time necessarily in that moment to explain to them , fucking like , you know , sometimes you have to trust and then listen and then like that yeah , sometimes
it's hard , trust and then listen and then like that , yeah , sometimes it's hard , I guess , because when we're in positions where we're like either teaching something or explaining something yeah , I would say like , or at least at times it's very , very difficult to take the , the like the person I'm teaching or training to the to the same exact journey that I went
through .
Yeah , right , yeah . A lot of times you want to rely on trust .
Well , well , yeah that . And then like , um , yeah , like I want better for them you know , like I want , um , yeah , yeah . Like you said like , oh , look , he ended up all right , you know . So like , yeah , like I always think that , like the next generation of learners are supposed to like Excel , excel or like yeah , they're supposed to .
I'm not sure if it's supposed to be like . Do you think that it's supposed to be always as hard for everybody , type thing ?
no , I actually don't think so because , like I said , I think that because , now that I came from a camp of teaching you the way I taught you , you know this and you will have a hybrid to teach him , and I think that is what is happening and he will supersede you . Superseded me , he will supersede you .
It's a a natural phenomenon Because of the fact that he's getting the proper hybrid wisdom to get to a place where he needs to be .
But I'm not even saying that , like I'm not even talking about sales or anything like that .
Well , in general I'm talking about in general . It doesn't matter what it is . As long as you have the opportunity to teach , you'll be able to supersede it yeah , and that's a very good thing .
The hard part is again if you did something that was deemed stupid and you learn from it , how do you teach somebody else to not do stupid ?
depends , by evaluating certain attachments , desires and things like that and their , I guess , importance to that person or that magnitude .
My dad would agree with you about certain things People need to make their own mistakes . My mom and dad raised me . Well , allegedly I did something stupid . Uh-huh , me and my friends . It was winter , my mom said no to them coming inside . So we said let's go to the sport complex and build a little fire .
Oh , you know , there's a wooded area you know what I'm talking about over there by Heights . Okay , there's a wooded area by the pond . Uh-huh , and my brother came along and we used axe cans to start a fire because it was cold out and it got so big . They came , the police came , louis got us out of it . My mom was pissed off .
My dad I thought my dad would be pissed off at the worst and he was upset , but he also knew kids gotta do fucking mistakes , yeah , and fucking learn from . Yeah , you know , we had to do fire starter program where we learned about fire is bad , this and this , yeah .
But my dad , you know , when I got older , my dad explained that he did a lot of stupid shit that landed him in trouble with the cops . But you know what he goes ? Most teenagers do experience something like that . They do something stupid . Yeah , they get in trouble . Yeah , he goes . Juveniles fucking do that . Yeah , he goes the whole point of it .
The cops are not trying to fucking throw you in , fucking juvie or something . Yeah , they want you to be able to learn , like this was some stupid shit , don't let it happen again . Yeah , and I did learn from that . But you have to make mistakes in order to learn from it , for sure , and I made stupid mistakes . Some people learn , some people don't .
And I think that , at the end of the day , I think your dad probably trusted the natural survival instincts that you had , where , sure , you'll do some stupid stuff , but you're not going to hurt yourself .
Like the one thing he's been trying to . He has been trying to prevent some shit Like going in debt . Getting in debt , yeah , that type of shit .
Yeah , but it's also another fire , right , it's another fire where you can make stupid decisions and get yourself in there and then you will take your time to get out of it . But it's super necessary for you to learn certain things that you need to learn .
The reason he's been trying to do it . That particular thing would be with Toli . Yeah , he's gone through it before . Yeah , his dad bailed him out once and said that's it . He did it again , yeah , and he had to find his own way out of it . Find his way , yeah .
Except that he didn't . It wasn't his own way , it was a hybrid way where his dad helped him out with it .
Well , no , he did it again after that . Well , exactly , yeah . So he had to find his way out the second time .
Second time as well , started working , and when he first started working for himself , he was pocketing all of it , not thinking about taxes , and all this and different shit when he started this company so he's like no , you don't , he files every quarter . Uh well , he wasn't following filing every quarter until at the end of the year .
He gets a call from his accountant and says , hey , you owe them $10,000 . He's like that's what that money in my account was . I was like , holy shit , I'm rolling in it you know Until the accountant . Let him know hey , you owe this fucking money .
Yeah , where is ? It at yeah , there you go , and he knew .
When he gave the account and the money , he realized I ain't got no fucking money left . That's right , there was an illusion . Yeah , that was it . He had no money left . That was a learning experience . But my dad has been trying to prevent it , Just like totally has been trying to do , and prevent me from doing stupid shit .
He's trying , yeah , but he's also flexible , yeah , you know .
Yeah , but there's still like on . Like , for example , when it comes to sales , like I understand the importance of doing stuff and failing at certain things , for example , and like getting destroyed on the call and like I don't know how you can bypass things like that , because there's always levels of confidence that you get , and then you get them .
You get them and then you get humbled and then you kind of have to go back and then you say that like okay , that like you're really good at something , and then you go into something else and like you get humbled again and you gotta yeah , so you understand that process .
Go back . Yeah , you understand that process , go back . Yeah , yeah , you understand that process and more and some things and some other things . You don't are you biased with that process ?
you are well I'm not sure if I'm biased intentionally . Okay , so you have to explain that . Like I'm not , like uh , I'm not saying that . Like , hey , I'm okay with this getting fucked up here , but not , but not here . Like I'm not always like thinking about , like , like that might be happening , yeah , but I'm not planning it like that .
I just it , just not a troll like like I know that he's gonna get owned by certain people , yeah , or certain prospects , and some of them are gonna be very easy . Yeah , if there's a um several , then they're gonna be very easy . It might , for example , create an illusion that , like you might be good at something , yeah , right .
Like my , like what happened early on , right , yeah . But yeah , like that stuff I'm understanding about , ok , and like I've been through my own Sure , like you know my mind sales wise , learning , like in different things .
Where the hell is no card . Listen , I sent you the tracking number , man . Where did you send it ? In my email Email ? Yeah , that was in there . Yep , because we need to practice this shit man , we will , I'm excited .
I'm excited . I'm not because this motherfucker's prolonging shit .
What's up with him ? Not him . Oh , the other guy , yeah , what's his ? Mr Brown , yo Braun . No , josh Braun , josh Braun . If you listen to this man , where are the fucking my note cards ? Man , you fucking up my shit here , man , yeah , I'm trying to get on this sales shit man .
Send them , send Josh Braun , this shit , yeah , this episode , man , because we got fucking People trying to learn we can .
Because he's affecting my yeah growth , my growth man . He's talking about these note cards , man , but he's throwing them slow express man he's sending them slow express . It's going to take three fucking weeks . When did you order them ?
As soon as you told me . When was that , though ? I don't know when did you get excited about it ? I don't know , bro .
When was the first day you sent me Josh Braun ? I don't know when did you get excited about it ? I don't know bro when was the first day you sent me Josh Braun .
I don't know . You probably like earlier this week . Right , it was the first .
No , bro , it had to be last week sometime . When did you send me that email ? I'll tell you right now , bro . You sent the email to me . I ordered it on August 16th , 8th . You ordered it on the 8th . Yeah , the fuck bro 8th .
It's been a while . Sure , I should have been here , but he said shipped it , he shipped it .
Yeah , I get that , but you're paying $50 . That shit should go express Plus . It's just a couple of no cars . Think about that .
What's the matter with these ?
people . It should go express . You're paying $50 for some , no cars . That means he doesn't have a good supplier man .
He doesn't have a good that these things get shipped out like they're bought , like that . Yeah , exactly , this is like you know . He's cutting them himself , man , you know what I'm saying ? I don't know .
Bro , this is going two weeks now . It's probably going to go two weeks before we get this shit .
No , it should be here next week .
Monday , Tuesday dude , Come on , it's already past the week . He sent it out the 8th . So do we solve trust or what ?
I don't know if we solved it , but I think that we definitely cracked it , yeah , yeah , yeah , we definitely um went over it , but but like there , there's also like different things where it's like trust is lazy yeah , yeah I guess like the way I'm thinking about it is like , oh , it could make sense here , it could make sense here , but then it went when ,
when I actually think about it , it's just what we're saying is the correct thing to do , happening , but calling that trust , yeah . So sometimes it's hard to rewire yourself to think about things , because the word that you're associating with something doesn't actually mean what you associate it with .
Yes , what you said , the word rewire , and that is what it's . If we actually understood what the fuck we're talking about . It's forcing us to rewire the way we think and the way we express ourselves .
I think we need to rewire this world . Man , that's what I think , bro .
I told you , when he drinks a little bit , he says some things that are truthful , but there's no way he can explain it .
I can explain this right now . Okay , this world , if we really think about what we're talking about right now , is fucked . He read my mind .
He's 100% right . Well , sure , okay , no no , no .
What does that tell us what ? What does that tell us that in this fucking moment , we're all synced in and understand the same thing On ?
that , yeah sure , but this world is fucked . I wish we could send it across the fuck world , this thing , right here , Harris ?
how about this ? Harris , how about this ? What do you think is going to happen ? Harris , how about this ? Are you ?
willing to call your mom right now and tell her this that's fake , fake news . Call her right now . What On record , what am I calling her for ? Say , hey , mom , everything we knew about trust is actually dead .
She's going to think I'm drunk or high bro .
Let's hear it .
Hold on . What time is it over there ?
It's three hours behind , but you're good . No , it's one hour .
Yeah 707 .
Come on , it's early as fuck . John's probably going to be in the background . Even better . Everything we know about trust is dead .
Hello , hey you busy . Not really right now . What's going on ? So I just had a phenomenon with Eldar and Anatoly and we really talked about trust and when you really get down deep into it , there's no such thing as trust .
It's really how well you know a particular person , what trust is dead okay , that's stupid , because there absolutely is something about trust okay , but trust right ? You're basically saying you know that person so well , you know what they would do and how they would do it . So basically there is no trust . You just know that person particularly well .
No , there's ways to know people trust them , and there's ways to know people trust them . And there's ways to know people and not trust them . How ? Because you could be friends with somebody and yet you don't have that trust that you need , because you don't know what they're going to do with whatever , you need to trust them .
Are you really friends with that person ? If you don't know , like me and John right , I know everything John would do yeah .
I know , I don't know , it could be just one of those things . I mean , it's probably more of an acquaintance in that case . But that's the point I'm just saying . It's ridiculous to say there's no such thing as trust .
Right , well , well , I believe I get where they're coming from . Right , trust is dead Because , like you , right , I know everything about you . You've been around me from throughout all my life and I know how you think and I know everything about you .
You've been around me from throughout all my life and I know how you think and I know you know , I know what your next steps would be , what you would do . You know what I'm saying . Yeah , I know how you would react and that type of things . I know what ticks you off and all that shit .
So that's what I'm saying okay , is that trust and all that shit .
So that's what I'm saying . Is that trust ? No , it's just knowing a person , okay . So don't you think trust would be dead . I mean , I know you so well , I know you would never harm me , I know everything right . So if you really think deep down , it's not trust , you just know a particular person , right ?
I've heard some stupid things he said so this is just another one , alright , I just wanted to share that with you . Okay , thank you , alright . I love you . Alright , bye , bye .
That was epic , I'm you All right , bye , bye . That was epic , that was epic .
I'm sorry about her man . Why are you sorry . Why are you sorry ? She said , she said stupid things .
Yeah , you know , I'm supposed to be the bad guy . What I'm supposed to be the bad guy , why ?
Well , think about it , he sure said he was so stupid when you were asking for his advice .
Huh what the fuck are you going to say now when you were ?
talking to him about that COVID stuff that I was going through . He helped you out with that unemployment , huh .
Or when I was younger and you'd go to him to talk some sense into me .
There you go . What was happening then ? Huh , that's the thing .
She formulated certain opinions about me , which I think naturally people do , but she doesn't actually know who I am and the times that she did . She accepted my advice and everything was fine , and until this day she's still blessing you to work here , to make money and be around me . Think about that .
Yeah , well , she wasn't totally on board , but she came to terms with it .
However , a lot of people that use the word trust and try to explain themselves in such a way , without really thinking what they're talking about , will have those type of attachments where they say , like what are you talking about ? You know what I mean and try and explain to them . Well , we just had a whole little conundrum here .
It's hard in the matter of a phone call , it's hard to explain , explain , can you imagine ? Though ?
If his head was high as fuck and you got that phone call , you'd bug out .
I should have had her eat some gummies . Bro , Trust is dead .
Can you imagine , I don't trust you anymore .
Just think about it You're sitting to yourself and you're high .
But she admitted I was right at some point .
She did admit that she's like , hey , you have a point , but she can't come to terms with it .
She cannot . No , I'll tell you one thing , harris . At one point or another , all of our parents like me , mike , whoever they all feudal as an enemy .
Seriously , yeah , seriously , yeah , well , yeah , why well ? Think about it . What what is the problem they're making ? What is it because you make us actually think , or we think differently after meeting , your mom knows you a certain type of way and she's controlling that identity about you when she talks to you . The weird part was when I came to work here .
Yeah , my mom goes . Don't let eldar change the way you do things like it was like she had this hunch . That's crazy , right ? Yeah , I don't know , man . Is it true that mothers have instincts ?
or what the fuck is . Well , she might have had that instinct , for sure , but it's almost like she's afraid of what's actually gonna happen , but she has to to pick her hands up and say if she said don't work for him , quit right now . That's a different story . She's like , okay , work for him , but don't listen to what he says . That's a different thing .
I was talking to my mom about what I learned here and what I'm doing and how I'm trying to be . You know you guys are trying to turn me into a sales guru that I'm able to close deals . Her first response was please don't let him change who you are . What does that mean ? I don't know who the fuck are you .
She thinks everyone , when they think of a fucking salesman whether it's selling an actual product that actually fucking works that they're fucking sleazy . Listen to me .
If your mom is under this impression that Harris is such a good person . I'd love to know that side of you . I'd love to know that you know what I'm saying , Because that's not what I'm trying to change .
If that's true , what's about you ?
But if her standards are so low and she views herself also a particular way . Yeah .
My question is you gotta understand that our , our , job here ?
to tell you the truth , right now , me and toli's job is to corrupt . Yeah , obviously , obviously , what ?
do you mean obviously , obviously , how so your job is to make me really fucking I don't know think about . Am I yeah person I should be , I guess yeah okay , you understand .
You came from wanting to cut your finger off or jumping out of a fucking airplane without a parachute . This is who you are . We're trying to ban all that and say that , motherfucker , you should jump out of a plane with a parachute enjoy yourself and have a guarantee that you're going to land and have fun . You want to hear something crazy .
I'll tell you why . I know all that .
I have the solution . Solution . I don't know if you linked it , but it was actually one of the philosophy topics I wanted to talk about . I sent you a clip . I think it was earlier in the week .
Hold on , it's a funny clip .
But it brings in a funny , it brings a very interesting topic into play . Do you remember that clip with that girl who's a podcaster ? Bobby Althoff ? I don't know who this is . It's one where she's calling her a musician .
Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , I did see that . Do you remember what she says ? No , I don't remember that but , she owned her completely what the fuck yo ?
before you say something , mike just sent me a link , a naked picture . There's a gym in Japan . I think a lot of our listeners would like this . There's a gym in Japan where women bully you into lifting and force feed you protein shakes .
I'll send you there right now if you're ready to go .
I can play this off another thing .
I don't have a passport , of course .
Baby , one thing about me is everybody knows I'm so good with the people . You saw I always make a lot of money . That's amazing . I don't . I didn't know that about you . What do you know , that you're a musician ? That's why I'm interviewing you today , so I can get to know you . So I'm interviewing you today so I can get to know you . So I'm a musician .
What the fuck that mean ? Make magic or something ? What is musician ? I think you're confusing that . Yeah , I'm not no musician . I make music , I make music and that's not all I do .
This is going to be like a big mic drop moment for you once you connect what I'm saying here .
Okay , Music I act . I'm a TV star too , a young model , just really quick . I think you're confusing . I'm not confusing nothing because you don't know . You thought that all I was was a magician or whatever the fuck . You said See , that's what I think . You think I said . I said musician , not magician . I don't think baby , I don't think what is that ?
That's ghetto , I don't think I know . So you think I didn't say magician .
Suki .
I said musician , oh shit , Do you catch my drift now or no ? She don't think . She said no , she's saying what does she say about thinking ? She said I don't think . I think , baby , I don't think .
I'm not confused or nothing , but you don't know , you thought that all I was was a magician or whatever the fuck you say . See , that's what I think . You think I said I said musician , not magician . I'm a magician . What is that ? That's ghetto . I don't think .
I know , I don't think that's ghetto , that's ghetto how is that ghetto ? How is that ghetto ? Because this is in the same way anyone who's challenged to think right they're viewed as like that's a bad thing .
Because this is in the same way Anyone who's challenged to think right , they view it as like that's a bad thing and that's like a poor man's version of living life . You need to know .
I'm confused because people that think Is that a real thing ? What ?
Is this a real thing ? It's like this is a fad , I think you're smoking crack Did you do crack in high school .
This would be wild .
My speculation on things is that , for example , she's basically challenging and saying yo , I think that this is what you think I'm saying , which means that you're , by default , saying that you don't know .
Yeah .
And she's saying I don't think , yeah , right . And she's saying I don't think thinking is ghetto , and she's using that word because she's saying thinking is like for losers , right , oh , shit , yeah .
She's a response .
She's talking about . She's like , thinking is ghetto .
Yeah , and she's using a negative connotation yeah .
That thinking is a bad thing . She's like I know , and she's the whole time in the conversation plopping her as hot shit , oh , I act , I do this . I'm music , I'm not a magician , I'm fucking . You know this . When she's just not hearing what she's saying .
She's saying that you're a musician , my man .
You're fucking saying that you make music . Therefore you're a musician . What is the issue you're having with that ? But I feel like when you challenge people that don't think , they often think that thinking is bad , knowing is good . But how , where did that come from ? I'm telling you .
This is a crazy top dollar . That person is stupid .
Do you call ?
your mom stupid . No , I'm calling this lady .
But she is stupid for the record . For the record . Are you For the record ?
Are you trying to level up past your mom ?
You know , I think that's what every parent wants , right ? They want their kid to be more successful , Do they yeah ?
absolutely See . The challenge is I'm not sure if they do See , hold on , hold on . Her advice to you was hey , just don't make sure he doesn't change the way you think .
No , no . She said don't make sure he doesn't change , you Change you Don't make .
See the thing ? Everyone , like I , was saying when they hear you know I'm a sales development rep the only thing they hear is sales . Yeah . And whenever someone hears the word sales , they automatically go back to that point . What have you ? said that it's a sleazy salesman trying to fucking trick you into some shit that you don't need .
But they're right , the videos are right . You have to know that your product can really change something and our product can . There's not a lot of handwritten letters out there anymore . Most of the people I talk to , even the company . What was the company called Handwritten ? That was one of the companies . That's right , they're not handwritten .
They're not handwritten , it's a fucking machine . That's right , it's a machine .
Thank you , Trump .
Trump . Oh , I'm sorry .
Harris Trump . Oh , I'm sorry , harris , it's not handwritten . And I've had customers that admitted that to me , like yeah , there's a company called handwritten . You know they use a machine , it's a dollar more . Then I'm like then it's not handwritten , it's not , that's right .
And from what I understood , I did research on the machine and the machine screws up a lot that machine and the machine screws up a lot that machine . So I'm pretty sure it takes longer to fucking do this shit . Probably , yeah .
Those companies go out of business .
Well , how can you call yourself handwritten ? In my eyes , that's false advertising .
That's why you have to use the letter Y to describe handwritten and not the letter I .
You have to misspell it . Getting back to that woman , that was just talking on the video .
Do you do misspell it this ? Is what I said , bro .
You can't claim that , bro . Getting back to that woman , if you're called a musician , I would take that as a fucking compliment , right ?
Because you understand what the word means . Yeah , but she's not hearing that she's not hearing that she's not listening to , that she thinks she's saying magician .
Who is this fucking woman ?
I don't know , I don't give a fuck who she is , she claims she's an actor , and all this shit .
Yeah , my only point of that is that I think that people view that this type of topic is something that we previously discussed , but taking a stance that you don't know is a very poor stance . That's what she's saying Before we . You know what To a degree I agree with that . No , but she's saying poor in the sense of like .
I agree with her , but she actually got this one wrong . Yeah , you know what I'm saying . If you got it right , then you can stand on your shit , but she got it wrong .
Both of you hold your stuff for a minute . Silence speaks words . Okay , think about what you're going to say . Next , I have a video to play myself . It's one of my all time .
This is not John Crespo dancing in the rain .
But this guy here is one of my favorite sheriffs . He's fucking hilarious . He speaks truth . Everyone be quiet and think about your next thoughts , okay .
Hold on one second Before you play that . Play pause . I have a fart coming . You want to smell this one or no ?
fuck you okay , cool make sure you do it into the mic .
Come here , come here that's a bunch of hooey , that soft and cuddly feeling we're going to hug a thug and if we give them , you know , another popsicle and an icy and a day out at the park , they're going to be good . Y'all need to wake up . These dudes are taking y'all for fools . These are hardcore gangsters , gangbangers .
They'll eat your ice cream on Saturday and shoot up their rivals on Saturday night .
This guy will literally curse these guys off . I'm surprised this dude , this sheriff , is still fucking a lot dude . He literally goes off on live TV . You might have seen some of his videos . Guy was trying to break into a house and the homeowner shot at the guy and he never came forward . But the guy was arrested . The sheriff went on live TV and he goes .
This guy was trying to break into the house . Whoever shot at the man , come forward . We want to give you an award . You did the right thing . You got every reason you should have shot and killed him like . This dude is open about this . He's like I don't really give a damn . You know this sheriff's got major balls and he goes after the gang .
So what are you trying to say with this whole thing ? I just think the sheriff has balls . No , you need tough love , dude . These people , these people need tough love man .
And that's why you gravitate towards us , because we have tough love .
No , that's not why I gravitate towards you . Yeah , you got tough love , bro . You make me think real hard and fucking you make me learn lessons the hard way .
Hey , does it feel good ? Absolutely feels good , 17 minus 12 .
Fuck you , man . I'm not doing this , man .
He's relaxing . Leave the kid alone . All right , give me some final thoughts on this shit , man Trust . What are we doing with trust , With trust ?
What are we doing with trust ? Totally trust me with his mom all the time .
Oh shit , I do because I know you got the smallest dick .
I got the biggest dick . I'm the bull from New Jersey and I keep families together , Everyone listening you just remember that . Enjoy that .
So if you ever want it , we can arrange it Totally . What do you have , man ? Give me some final thoughts on this .
Yeah , I mean on trust . Yeah , I think we should try to avoid requesting trust from others .
You stole my shit , man .
Yeah , I think if you know what's going on , you should try to Damn bro . You let everyone hear that bottle boy , which , which you know , what has always been like um , um , not , not .
That's always been my philosophy and like , maybe , what I said , I I say , but I feel like , like , like the way that we act and I feel like and do like we're not like crazy show offs and like like we don't lead with what we own or have , for example , we try to lead with the words we have in the actions we take .
You see the fucking Rolex that I'm wearing right now .
No , mike is crazy , bro , he goes . Are you guys still doing the podcast ? I said yeah , he goes , I'll be there soon . I said we're doing final thoughts .
Yeah , yeah . So I feel like , like , um , I've always liked that . So like , like , even the sense that like , for example , like if I have something that I can help someone with or I can teach them something , right , um , I like the fact that , like , I like the process of them .
I don't want to lead with , like yo listen to what I have to say , I make a lot of money and I have a lot of shit . Therefore , you should follow me . I like the approach of if they can not judge , just for the record we have all that .
Yeah , but I'm saying that if they cannot judge a book by its cover and still read it , I think there's value in that kind of relationship .
Agreed 100% , and I feel like I think what you're asking for ultimately right it's a long-lasting relationship .
Yeah , Like it's very easy to trust the guy who wears a suit and a nice watch and a Ferrari when it comes to thinking that they might be For a majority of individuals , for a moment up front right . But I feel like it's a more interesting process when you don't flash all that .
Yeah , and you're about that life .
And you're about that life and you could still get to a point where you could teach him , for example , those things . And they trust you , not trust you is a bad word .
How the fuck did this fucking gremlin land here ? What ? How did he land here ? That's a phenomenon you have to think about , okay hold on a second hurry up man .
How did he land here ?
how the fuck did he land here ? Is this Destiny ? I don't know .
Good , okay , I got final thoughts , because I don't either , I got final thoughts .
Okay , go ahead , give me some final thoughts , if you fucking put up a share video .
I'm going to tackle you .
Yo don't take it for sure man Put your shirt back on . Fuck you man .
Okay , free the nipples . Yeah , but everyone in this world , if you're listening , wake the fuck up . Trust is dead . Everyone needs to get that through their head , everyone that's listening to this . You need to think real hard about this . Wow , what is trust ? It's nada . It's about whether or not you really know the person . Yeah , how well you know .
If you don't know him , sit down , sit your ass down and get to know him and know whether or not . Should I be friends with this person ? Should I associate with this person ? Trust is dead . Dead as a dog Door was blown , not kicked in . It was blown up , all right .
Trust is as a dog Door was blown , not kicked in , it was blown up .
All right , trust is dead for Harris Trust is .
Baghdadi .
Oh yeah , Baghdadi If anybody doesn't know what that is .
look up Trump and Baghdadi . You'll understand where I just came from just now . Best fucking announcement ever Ever .
I would have to agree with Haz , but you have to expand some of this . I would have to agree with Haz , but you have to expand some of this . These are my final thoughts and the fact that is , yes , trust is dead , but there's context behind why we're saying what we're saying .
That's why I said you need to sit down and you really need to think about it .
The truth of the matter is Harris , sorry to tell you . Trust is alive and well for a lot of people .
Yes , that's why I said they need to really sit down and really think about what is trust .
The word trust is alive and well . They use it . They abuse it .
Unfortunately , our podcast is not going to air across the world .
Why do you say that ? Right now we're on Apple Music and Spotify , bro . So yeah , so people that they can find us .
Unfortunately , it's not going to expand to everyone that needs to hear it . The whole world needs to hear this , but why do you say unfortunate ?
Why do you tag the word without most successful , most important podcast as unfortunate ?
This is the most successful podcast .
What's the matter ?
with this guy . What the fuck's wrong with you , man ? I'm a little tipsy , I'm not going to lie Fine .
We're the most successful podcast in the world .
We're balls deep in this podcast .
You don't understand it . What I'm saying is that , even though trust , yes , is dead for us , it's not dead for the world .
You know , we should really name this podcast .
Why do you have a problem with the podcast name ?
Because this name that I'm about to say is a lot better than our current name . Speak the truth with dennis rocks , because you want to be honest , everything we talk about is the truth . Man , think about it . You're not going to agree with me , but okay , we talk about real shit . Speak the truth with Dennis Rock .
Do you esteem totally to be a person of knowing ? I mean , yeah , does he know some stuff or no ? Absolutely .
Sure , he doesn't know everything ?
Sure , he doesn't , but let me ask you this question then . Right , he's been around for a little while , right ? And , trust me , he disagrees with Dennis on a lot of things , and he trust me , he disagrees with Dennis on a lot of things , I would say 99.9% of the things . Does he make any suggestions of changing the name of the podcast ?
No , but I'm still including Dennis's name . Speak the truth with Dennis Rocks .
Fine . Why do we need to include the speak the truth Like ? Why is that a business trying ?
to put on the suit in the Ferrari ? No , I'm not . It's very powerful , it's very powerful , it's very powerful .
It's very powerful . How do we know we speak the truth ? You just had an experience today that we might have be speaking the truth . No , we talk about no .
Yeah .
That's the only way you can understand what I'm saying .
No , we talk about real Huh .
Could , could you finish a whole pie of ?
pizza right now ? No , when you really think about it , we speak about a lot of serious issues . We are the world is suffering from right now . So if you really want to think about it , we're speaking the truth , man .
I don't think that , even if you speak the truth . I don't think that you need to ever broadcast it . I think what you can say is that we try to speak as honestly as possible , we try Correct and if it ends up , aligning with the truth , then that is a good thing , exactly , and we might get it wrong as well .
We just may be subjectively saying certain things that make sense to us .
What the hell is going on here . Why haven't you hit any of the buttons , man ?
But the truth of the matter is your mom .
When we just called her , she said hey , this is BS bro , I know , but she did agree with certain stuff , but she can't wrap her mind around it right now , not yet . Exactly . That's why it takes her time .
So what is the truth then ? What do you mean ? If people can't wrap their mind around it , they're in denial , so you could just say that you , you know you . We speak Mythbusters as honestly as possible , for the moment in time , yeah Right .
And then if it's , anybody can tap into it , great , if they can , whatever .
Everyone needs to sit their asses down , yeah , and really think about what is trust .
Okay . So , like you said , you made a thing about the whole thing about relationships and trust . Right , you don't have to trust people if you know them , and I agree with that .
But the truth of the matter is , you know , this is a big one , yeah , because a lot of times the word trust is being used in relationship terms , right , and the truth of the matter is that if someone uses the word trust , right , hey , trust me , bro , in your relationship . If you're a thinker , let that be . As a skeptic , let that be .
Take that as in like a almost hey , uncle Mike . Uncle Mike is here , mike , you came for the right moment , man , I can't believe he came back . Yeah , how you feeling man Good , I rested a lot .
Yeah , good , he's going to get something to eat with us . Totally Good , are you coming or no ? No man , he's going to get something to eat with us . Totally . Are you coming or no ? No man , I'm going to a special place today .
Oh , that's right , he's going on a date . You know what ? She's wearing Absolutely nothing under that dress .
What the fuck , wearing absolutely nothing .
Harris's mom in my house last night oh my , God , are you going to bless her for the 62nd birthday ? Well , hold up , hold up .
Because all three of your mothers were riding my shit last night . Oh , that's how I should believe . Man and your sister , man , oh shit , thank you , mike .
Shit Trust is dead and we have a lot to say about it . A lot of the times , a lot of the times , harris , a lot of the times , when we talk about concepts like trust , courage , some other stuff , right , mike actually is the person who concludes that this shit is dead .
And today , funny thing is , you channeled him and he concluded that trust is fucking dead , that trust is insulting way of speaking , communicating , right ? We're like , hey , trust me ? No , shouldn't matter , you shouldn't fucking trust them , because we have inclination internally inside of us that should tell us like , why should we trust you ?
So the other individual has almost a burden of proof to explain to you , to the individual , why not that they should trust them , but they should understand why the process is the process , so they can be empowered enough , right , empowered enough to level them out .
Because if the person who's asking for trust is here , okay , which I'm showing above and the person who doesn't trust is down here , right , you don't want them to just like yo , trust me . No , you want to bring them up high enough to be like yo . We understand each other's points , so you don't have to trust me anymore , because we both understand .
And when we're on the same page , we feel good . And it is right , mike , and nobody's above anybody .
Mike final thoughts about this .
No one gives a damn . Shut your goddamn mouth , you boy . You really wanted to get that one out , right Harris ? It was really in you , right bro ?
I was driving here , Mike bring the thing .
Yeah , you were driving here . You don't get no final thoughts , man .
I was driving , you weren't here . You don't get no final thoughts . I want to give a disclaimer . Yeah , I'm going to give a disclaimer .
This might make absolutely no sense , oh my God , because I was out for a little while and my brain is not no problem , but nonetheless you have some thoughts .
I had a thought might not be a real one .
Fuck man Used to clock for you to like clog the the top of it . Yeah , what is that ? I don't know , because when , when , when you pull it there , there's like a moisture thing with the sticky stuff .
Yeah , it gets sticky , I have to fucking put the toothpick in something .
I got when I was driving . I was thinking about trust and maybe possibly I was thinking it might apply to other things .
But before you continue , mike , me and Elder made a revelation today that Harris looks like Sinbad . Do you agree ? Sick , fuck you where's my body ?
I like it . I like it , harris . I have to find it again . What happened ?
go get it .
Uh , yeah , so like , um , I was driving here and I was thinking about this whole trust thing , you know , and I was trying to understand . Oh , I remembered is it possible to use any of these kind of things like trust and other stuff right , and ask it from the outside world ?
If you don't have it towards yourself , let's say first of all , and other stuff right , mm-hmm . And ask it from the outside world , right , if you don't have it towards yourself , let's say first of all , okay , what does that mean ? Give me an example .
Like a lot of times , people say , oh , respect is important , right , yeah , but if you don't respect yourself , how are you expected to respect others ? Sure , or others to respect you , yeah , and others to respect you .
I was thinking about that and I think trust too , if you don't trust yourself in which sense , in regards to what , how , you don't trust yourself , because we have very specific examples .
And you don't know yourself .
Wow , you know what . Harris , are you sitting right now ? You're sitting like the Buddha and Sinbad .
I'm sitting like Eldar right now .
Yo , you have the ability to put your feet like that . How the fuck do you ?
Even Tully can't do that .
Even Tully can't do that man , you never fucking did this as a fucking kid . What are they called the pretzel shit ?
Yeah , he has thunder thighs though .
Bro . He has thunder ties though , bro . This is how I used to play video games .
After he was 8 .
No , I actually didn't . I didn't stop growing until .
I was like 22 . Does his knees look like the ones of a child ?
I didn't stop growing until I was like 22 . I was delayed man . He was delayed a little bit it's fine .
What the hell is wrong with you putting your shoes on the couch ? This isn't fucking Kerry's gay palace Gay palace oh my bad . Shoes on the couch . This isn't fucking Carrie's gay palace Gay palace oh my bad . Boom . Let me shove my foot up your ass , boy . Ow that almost hurt .
How do you like them ? Dim apples , so Mike .
Yeah , so saying .
Well , I was thinking more about respect . Yo , yo , I can't look at his gay socks . Fuck you man . They're white but black , right we're going to century 21 and we're going to buy him some new socks . Remind me of this .
On Monday , we have to order the gold toe Black or white .
One black , one black one white , alright , that's it Going forward . We're going to buy him some new socks .
I told you he needs new socks and new underwear .
Why do you look like fucking Nicole Kidman , bro ? Fuck you After she was kidnapped . Yeah , what the fuck man . Yeah , his socks look like fucking .
Why is she ? Fucking putting our shoes in fucking pile dude , you look like Kid Rock got a fucking . Well , it's cutting gut fat yeah .
Don't disrespect Rod's neck Mike .
Sorry Mike , we keep interrupting you , no worries .
Yeah , so .
Yeah , you're saying self-respect , I was saying Self-trusting yourself , self-love .
Yeah .
Right love yeah .
What do you mean by trusting yourself ? Oh , I think that I can't understand it , but I think there is a thing where you trust yourself , that you know that you're doing the right thing , uh-huh , that your thought is correct , that your speech is correct .
Be very careful of that .
Huh , you have to be very careful of that oh yeah , oh , I mean I , I , but I guess in that thing also there's a thin line between being egotistical , right yeah ?
You know . But the problem with that is that how do you measure that ?
Yeah , I would say it's probably more dangerous to trust yourself than not to trust yourself .
Yeah , Maybe because you can fall into like a pad .
You have to get to a place enough where you need to go in the middle of the woods . You're a knowing skeptic .
Fuck you .
You need to go in the middle of the woods , man . You need to go somewhere . You're alone , no devices , and find yourself .
You're finally fucking tuning into that . Can you put your shirt back on , though ?
Free the fucking nips man , oh yeah .
Free the nips . Yeah , yeah , okay .
You need to find yourself . You don't trust yourself , Mike .
you understood our point about trust , about how like it's actually very condescending , almost Well , I wasn't here for the whole thing .
If you're requesting for someone to trust you , yeah , it is a lazy way of Copying out and not explaining yourself Of what you actually mean , the reasoning behind what it is that you're meaning Like , hey , bro , trust me , just do this and you'll be fine .
I'm gonna give you a . I understand what you're saying . No , you don't . We need to use my example again bro , okay go ahead .
Tell me your example , because I know an example .
You dated a chick for 15 years .
Oh yeah , what was her name ? No , let's use that as an example .
And she cheats on you . Okay , with a man or with a woman who gives a fuck , but it's different .
Yeah , whatever . Okay , she cheats on you . You trust her . Okay , that's what you claim . You trusted her . Did you really know her ? No , probably not . Okay , the whole point is you have to really know someone .
It's not about trust yeah , the the example that elder was giving before .
He was saying that like if you know that , for example , like chocolate is bad for dogs , and he knows that chocolate is bad for dogs and you guys have that shared mutual understanding , you then don't need to trust the person will put away chocolate for example because you don't need to trust , because you share a mutual understanding about something .
Therefore , you both agree on something , which means that you don't need to use trust , that they'll take care of them or that they'll do right by them .
For example , okay , like trust is more of like it's an insult If I say that , like yo , like , oh , like you're going to pick up my sister , like , oh , I trust you with her , it would mean that , like me saying that would mean that , like it shows you actually don't trust me . Well , no , it'd be showing that I think that , like you're a potential idiot .
Yeah , yeah , yeah . Oh yeah . Harris did admit Mike about hey , hey , .20 minutes ago that he could finish a whole pie of pizza right now .
Hey , I'm going to go pick up your sister , okay .
Okay , I trust you , man .
That's what we're going to go see .
We're going to go see Paris eat a whole pie right now .
Yeah , I was watching the movie while I was sick the Equalizer , and I don't know if you remember it .
The third one the third one , the one where he goes yeah , yeah yeah , I watched that one and the old man asked him you know , when he kind of like saves him and he comes to uh-huh , you know , yeah , he's like , are you a good man or are you a bad man ? Like kind of like , did I save a good man or a bad man ? Yeah you know .
And he said , I don't know , and that was like the end of the scene . Yeah , you know .
So after that kind of like yeah , it probably , I guess , depends to who right .
To some people he might be a good man , to some people he might be a bad man Well , yeah , yeah , I mean , obviously it's a glorified kind of thing , it's in a movie , but later on in the movie he's like uh , yeah , he asked him . He's like something about it .
He's like so how like did you figure out my good man or a bad man based on your question kind of thing ? He said well , a good man would never say that he's a uh , he would say he doesn't know , but a bad man would say he's a good man . You know , because I guess the truth Interesting .
The truth needs to be , doesn't need to be defended , no , but the dishonesty does need to be defended Does have to be defended . That was the example that I was trying to relate to this . A hundred percent .
A hundred percent If you ask for trust . That's crazy . That's a crazy connection , but it's right . Yeah . It's right , it's 100% right . Yeah . Yeah .
You don't need to ask for it . You don't need to defend yourself , say , oh , you can trust me , or you can respect me , or Because you know what you're about . I'm a good person . That's right , you know yeah .
But so if you told his mom , the trust is dead . Oh my God .
And she said what the fuck yo .
She said , yo don't listen to Elder Be careful , don't listen to Elder . But she did agree with some of the stuff I pointed out , but she can't .
Why are you defending her ? I'm just saying , she agreed so you're saying that she has a chance or no ?
If she can actually sit down and put her mind to actually no , ain't no heaven for a G .
She has it chance . What the fuck are you talking about ?
you never heard Tupac .
Ain't no heaven for a G oh , I thought you said a Jew bro .
I'm like , bro , you're telling yourself that's a given , that's a given , you're telling yourself we went over that too .
That is your homework alright , totally , and Eldar were very happy with that that I challenged .
Totally you did , and Eldar were very happy with that that . I challenged Tully . You did challenge Tully .
Hey , don't fucking ever say that out loud again when he's here . Why ?
Just trust me . What the fuck he wanted me to challenge him ? I hope so . That's what he said . Good , he said he wanted me to challenge him .
I didn't hear that I wasn't here for that , Bro it was on the podcast , alright , fine .
Yeah , he did do a good job . He went and he challenged him for certain things and that was good , yeah , but I did .
I think my mom really needs to sit it down because she did agree with some of the stuff I was saying , but she wouldn't accept that trust is dead .
Because you need to explain a little bit more .
I don't want to get into no fucking argument .
Why not ? Isn't that what the point of this whole thing is ?
Yeah , but you got to become her parent one day .
Aren't you tired of her telling you what to do ?
She don't tell me what to do anymore , she does all the time . No , bro .
All the fake stories you bring to us . That's what you're talking about Exactly .
I tell her you know , I want to do this crazy shit , uh-huh . And you know she says you know , I don't think that's a good idea . I said , well , I want to do it . She goes , okay . So why do you tell her what are you looking for ? Approval or a blessing ? Yeah , but it's just never going to happen . Like I told her , hey , I want a bull ride .
She goes , it's dangerous .
but you're an adult . He's actually looking for somebody to talk him out of it .
No . I'm really not . She said you're an adult .
But I would never watch you do it . This is a crazy point .
You know that we are magicians here , harris , we know how to Harris .
You've been playing checkers or something less for very long . What's less than checkers ? Nothing .
I don't know Chess and then checkers .
There's people playing chess here , man .
But let me do this . I said when we go to South Jersey , there's a place in Manalapan , it's a bull riding school . I'm going to go there . While we're there , we're going to take you there . Good , good , I'm very excited . Yeah , me too .
Are you going to wear those tight pants that you wear when you hang out and watch Netflix with John ? Fuck you , okay , fine .
The bull from New Jersey getting on Reaper .
Yoga pants with John Fuck you . That was disgusting Okay , Yo what's up ? With this Roddy Bull .
He learned a lot . He said , yo , this podcast is crazy and people need to hear the shit . And I can't believe it . And all this other stuff . Man , we have the truth and all this other stuff .
Mike , over here is a thief man .
He's a thief , right , I am a thief , yeah .
You stole my name , bro . I'm never going to let that go , man . You stole my name , you didn't even ask for permission .
I'm holding it for you .
You didn't even ask for permission , man .
You just put it on there . When I'm done with the PS , I'll give it to you . You'll have it already set up Yo .
Harris , I know you did your final thoughts again , but I think you have something else on your on trust .
It's dead as a fucking dog man .
It's dead as a dog . It's all Baghdadi .
As Trump would say about our Baghdadi it's dead . They're dead as a dog . We didn't go through the door , we blew the door up . It's dead .
Dead , it's dead .
Okay , everyone sit back . This is your . Everyone that's listening to this right now before . How does this help them ?
how does this help these people ? How does this ? If everybody actually listens to this shit and understood what we're saying , does this level them up ?
I think so .
I think their whole world can change , just by what we speak , man totally you believe this , that if they listen to it , if they listen to it , I think so I think their whole world can change . Wow , just by what we speak , man .
Totally . Do you believe this ? That if they listen to it , if they listen to it and understood what we ?
just said it levels them up . Well , yeah , but I think there's like a lot of context needed . Well , yeah , that's why I said before next week , everyone needs to sit down and really think about this fucking topic and come to and see if they can understand where we are coming from right now .
What are you going to do about it ? What do you mean ?
How are you going to spread the word ? I'm going to sing it from the choirs . I love it . We're going to make a song . You know how I sing the Kid Rock ? Yeah , we're going to make a country rock . You know how I sing the Kid Rock ? Yeah , we're going to make a country rock song About trust .
Trust .
Trust me in the Tennessee mountains he still gets it wrong . Trust me in the Tennessee hills he still gets it wrong Guys .
Thank you so much , this was great .
Hey , we love y'all . All right , have a good one , thank you .