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Okay, so back to today's episode, we're going to be discussing a little film called The possession.
Daddy JDM. That's right. 30 miles from nowhere was like more of a psychological thriller. Mystery. Something and then driven was just cute. It was like a dark comedy kind of thing. This was sincerely a scary movie. Yeah, this was scary.
Well, kids are creepy. Ah, well, I'll tell you what it's about. It's so it's inspired by a Los Angeles time writer Lesley Goring Steen's article titled A jinx and a box. The film is from Ghost House pictures and director Ollie
more warned on Ghost House pictures is Sam Raimi. He's
okay. Yeah, he was a producer, but I didn't notice that. I didn't know that was his. How do I say
that guy's date? I have no idea. ole ole. What is it?
Ole morn doll Barnaul Warren doll.
That's what I'm gonna say. Just call them all day from now on.
Anyway, it tells the tale of a broken family that comes under attack from a malevolent supernatural entity of Jewish folklore. Shortly after her parents played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan and curious Sedgwick divorce, a young girl purchases an ornate antique box at a yard
sale. And in the weeks that follow, the young girl forms an intense fixation on the box her behavior growing increasingly bizarre as she falls into the grip of a diabolical apparition when the girl's father discovers that the relic is in fact a holding cell for the disconnected soul of a deceased person who has been denied entry into the afterlife and needs a human host to inhabit. He fights to rid her of the evil that threatens to consume her body
and soul. It was released on August 31 2012, its budget was 14 million. And it at the box office it raked in at 2.9 million. Oh wow. So that was back when people went to the movies all the time. So it got a 38% on Rotten Tomatoes and 69% of Google users liked it. It was shot in 2011 and parts of the film were actually formed at a former mental institution and
river. It was Riverview Hospital and I'm just gonna say British Columbia because I don't even want to try and pronounce that cities and the little girl that plays Emily who is the little girl that gets possessed, they call her M in the movie.
That little girl though. I mean holy shit. The actress who plays Natasha Natasha Calis Wow. Like she made the movie in my opinion. As far as things I adore. I adored that little girl like her performance was just stellar.
I mean, I guess that would be mine, too. Yeah, she did a really good job being real creepy. She did actually do a lot of her own stunts. When she was asked, what were some of the craziest ones she had to do. She mentioned that she had a blast doing all of them. But the scariest things, or the scariest one scene she had to do was where they dumped buckets of moths on her. And they were real moths. She said it wasn't very pleasant. And she was in the room all by herself. And it was
really dark. And then she just had all these moths crawling all over.
I guess that's the bedroom scene probably.
Yeah. Which I don't think maybe I'm thinking of something else. But I don't think they look like moths they look more like dragonflies to me.
I mean, they were big asthma. Yeah. But they were mods. Yeah. They're really big ones like in the bedroom. And then when she like runs and goes and finds the box, and then they all fly into her mouth,
and watch my spit on my phone. So it was really, really dark. And I couldn't see
I had to watch it. Like I will say, I overall I thought this was a good movie. But I will admit, and it could just be my ADHD was an overdrive this weekend, I was running around the house doing stuff like crazy. So that's probably the case. But I had to watch this movie, like three times, because I kept losing interest. It's not because it was bad. It's just, I don't know, if it was a pacing issue. Or again, it could totally just be my ADHD, but it would lose me every few minutes.
And I'd start doing something else. And then whenever I'd come back to the screen, I wouldn't know what was happening. So I try to figure out what's going on. And eventually I'd get like, caught up to what was happening. But then I started the movie over because what did I miss? I want to see it and then the same thing would happen where I would get distracted and stop paying attention. Oh, geez. But overall, there were some really amazing moments. The little girl just her performance was so
eerie. Ooh, whenever she's like, Daddy, and Jeffrey Dean goes, snaps points at her. I was like, Oh, that was a good scene.
She was actually one of the reasons that Jeffrey Dean Morgan decided to do the movie. He saw her audition tape and it blew him away. He said he couldn't believe the stuff she was doing. And the stuff that the director was getting out of her. And he felt that all the stuff she was doing would keep the viewer on the edge of their seat the entire time, which I guess it did not you?
Yeah, it did. I mean, she was amazing. Don't get me wrong. It's just every every once in a while, whenever it would try to get into more of the drama stuff that was going on, rather than so much the actual possession. They lose me. I guess I could see that. I read somewhere that they were trying to make this an allegory about divorce and how it can affect families and all this other kind of stuff. And I can respect that from an
artistic standpoint. But just to me, we didn't know enough about the family as a unit from the beginning to care enough about what was happening with the drama and stuff. Does that make sense? No, I get what you're saying. Yeah. You know, I cared about what's happening with this little girl what's happening with this box? And so every time it ventured into the family drama, I didn't I think that's when it was losing me. I don't really know. I didn't like jot
down. Well, this is what happened last time I was paying. I didn't do that. But I think that that might be what was losing me because the little girl's performance, but I mean, he's right. Yeah, I felt sorry for him and her physicality of everything. You felt sorry for the dad.
Yeah, but it's probably because I'm a child of divorce and I was a daddy's girl. So really?
See yeah, now that probably does have something to do with it. I'm not I'm I am a daddy's girl. But I didn't have to go through that.
And I feel bad for him. Especially whenever she started, like acting like he was slapping her and you don't even touch or his older sister runs out and sees it or when she's like, accused, and she stabbed
him in the hand with the four and then the fight that happened in the classroom. I mean, yeah, I can get that because, you know, I don't have kids. But I've had friends who have had kids where they're going through a rough patch or something's going on where they don't know what to do to help their kid. So that I could relate to not relate to empathize with and understand how hard that would be. Yeah, I think Eric crypkey would really like this movie because of the
creepy kid thing. Oh, yeah, we found out he really likes the creepy kids. Uh, this this was definitely creepy kids stuff I was thinking about. Whenever the mom comes into the kitchen and little girls in front of the fridge. I was just like, I would immediately been like hell no and just left. Like, there's I would not have dealt with that. I am not a mother, clearly, but I just was hell no, I would have I would have immediately just turned around and walked away. Like I would not have been
dealing with that. And she's lucky that the little girl somehow got control back over her body and time. Because whenever she leapt on her she had that giant shard of glass in her hand. Yeah, I mean, just Oh, yeah, I
think I need them to get to like 10 And then maybe they won't be as creepy.
That little kid was older than 10.
No, she wasn't she? Yeah, I
thought she was like, 10.
I don't know. Bad with ages. Maybe you're right. But yeah,
the creepy factor. Like as I've heard multiple parents talk about waking up in the middle of the night and their kid just standing in their bedroom watching them sleep or sleep. No, no. Oh, what do you think was the creepiest thing the little girl did in the movie?
Oh, there was like one moment I can't remember what she said. I you probably won't remember either. It was just like really subtle. She was talking in her normal voice but then she like turned her face or something. And it was like in the creepy voice like a creepy voice. Yeah. When they were at the diner when she was like what it was. And I have some words. She's still hungry or something like that. That freaked me out. And hungry
was when the dad was telling her about the teacher and she's like, Yeah, I know. She's dead. How's my box? Right? Don't you touch my box? Jeffrey Dean Morgan can touch my box anytime. Oh he's gonna come over here. Be like, do that snap. Oh, like
what did you think was the creepiest?
That one was creepy. For sure. I forgot about the diner scene. But once once you brought it up, I remember that to me. The creepiest of the creepy was toward the end. When he finds her, and she's sitting up against that wall.
Hold on. That one too. Oh, wait, no, I'm thinking when she's in the I think it's like turns red. And she's like, up against the wall standing.
It's that's all in the same scene. But like, yeah, it's like helped me daddy. Yeah. And it's like repeating over and over and over again. As Geoffrey De Morgan's like walking into the room. I was just like, oh, yeah, that's another one where I just been like, no. Sorry, kid. I gotta go. Where's that Rabbi?
Your mom can deal with this.
But you know, he's he's, he's a good dad. He tells the demon it can have him instead and all that other. But yeah, to me. That was the creepiest of the creepy. Yeah. It was also kind of creepy whenever he first was suspecting she was possessed by a demon and went into her bedroom was like reading from the Bible. The way she just rolled over and stared at him. That was pretty creepy, too. But the creepiest of the creepy to me was the end. Whenever he walked into that room, where
were they? Okay, it was a work, but I don't think that's right, Jim, or something. I don't know. That was one of the moments where I checked out. All three times I watched the movie. I checked out I wasn't sure where they were. They were they were in a hospital of some sort. Maybe that's what it was. It was good. It was worth the time to watch. But like I'm not going to be buying like I did driven. Yeah, I can see that. But
definitely adore hands down. I thought it was going to be Jeffrey Dean Morgan, but I'm sorry that little girl she stole the show. Oh, for sure. She was amazing. So my adore thing is Natasha Calis. I think it's how you say her name. That's my adore as far as gore. The mods were pretty gross. Like when she's looking at her mouth.
Oh, yeah. And obviously the MA.
Coming out of her mouth, I didn't watch them. And then the girl who leaves her toothbrush out on the sink without being covered. Gross. Gross. Don't do that. Poopoo molecules and all kinds of stuff in the air in your bathroom. Yeah, your toothbrush should be in a drawer or covered in the hand stab. That wasn't really gory, but it definitely made me clench.
It was very unexpected. Yeah, I didn't know that coming.
I clinched everything, whatever that happened like UI, but not very gory. It just really scary Sam Raimi inspired ish kind of film. So yeah, good worth of you. But I probably won't watch it a fourth time.
I can't believe you watch it three times.
I had to I was checked out and I wouldn't know it was happening. I'd get caught up enough to be able to follow what was happening in the movie, but I would know okay, I know I've missed a good 15 minutes. I don't know what happened. Let me watch it again. I mean, I hope I got the whole thing by the end of the third one, but I don't know there's still a chance that I missed some scenes.
Yeah, I'm sure you got it. I did it. Did what?
I finished the movie. Oh, well,
yeah, that's, you know, that's all that matters however many times.
I'm perseverant. Yeah. Is that a word? persevering. Persevere? Perseverance. persevered.
persevering.
I get shit done.
Yeah, that's good. Anyway,
so that's a door and gore. What about lor?
How do you say it? Let me look it up to Buke.
I said it multiple times.
I know OB and I kept trying to listen every time I set it to know how to say it and I kept forgetting. I figured you just knew about it.
Now, I'd never heard of this until this movie. Oh,
oh, I thought you would have to BiC. Okay,
you got it. Yeah. It's Big Dig. Dig, Dig backwards. So devic big dick devic Yeah, okay, that helped me remember it.
Okay, well, the box that she was
big deck box I'm just
sorry, did not register. Well, the box that the girl was obsessed with that had this spirit or demon living in it was called it what is it? devic devic. Big Dick devic devic box. So the history behind it. It's a Jewish folklore and it is a disembodied human spirit. And because of former sins it wanders restlessly until it finds a haven in the body of a living person. And belief in such spirits was prevalent in the 16th and 17th centuries in
Eastern Europe. The word devic Vivek, I don't know why it's so hard.
devic say it's a big dick divot. I don't want to say that it no say it. It's just word. The
word devic is an adaptation of the Hebrew root davek which means to cling or to cleave. The devic is considered to be a sticky, evil spirit, a deceased disembodied malcontent who clings to a living person in order to find respite from its troubles. The phenomenon of being overcome by an otherworldly spirit has a long history in Judaism. And in the book of Samuel David reds, King Saul have a spirit of melancholy from God by playing his harp.
And the idea of a devic gained traction in the 16th century when Kabbalah flourishing in the northern Galilee city of sulfat. That's probably wrong. Promethea gladed per mutilated. What does that
sounds fancy? Hang on, let me google it, promulgate, promote, promulgate, promote or make widely known.
Okay, so flourishing in the northern Galilee city have to the fat, so fat,
what did you call me to shut up?
promulgated ideas about the afterlife, and often individuals suffering from nervous or mental disorders were taken to a miracle working rabbi who alone it was believed could expel the harmful devic through a religious rite of exorcism. Isaac Luria, a mystic, laid the grounds for Jewish belief and a devic. Don't know why. devic with his doctrine of the transmigration of souls, which he saw as a means whereby souls could continue their task of
self perfection. His disciples went on went one step further with the notion of possession of a devic defects are basically malevolent spirits looking for a warm body to call home. And, you know, apparently you can buy them on eBay these days. Oh. Now when promoting the film, Jeffrey Dean Morgan was on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson. He reported strange incidents that took place during production that couldn't be explained lights exploded during the
filming of key scenes. And just two days after filming wrapped principal photography all of the props for the film are stored in in case of they had to have any reshoots, but they were destroyed in a fire that mysteriously erupted from within the storage house. Fuck. Yeah. I guess one of the real devic boxes is in Las Vegas. It said to be the most on an object on Earth, it is inside an airtight your tape. It is inside of an airtight glass box surrounded by
Sage. The sage inside of the box has actually grown mold on it, which is impossible because of the lack of new air it is receiving.
think there might be a crack in that irritate my s. Right? So there's more about the backs devic so as the story goes, a devic box appeared in 2003 when antique store owner Kevin manis bought a vintage wind box from a 103 year old Holocaust survivor on eBay. After a strange string of unexplained hauntings recurring nightmares, bruises and smells of ammonia. The box found its way back on to eBay. It listed itself and it landed in the hands of a man named Jason
Haxton. And Jason was involved with the possession and was offering to send them actual pictures of the depict and do out and they were like No, no. We don't need to see the real thing. We just wanted some more information you keep that to yourself. But he too, felt the wrath of the box and ended up burying it. Somebody's gonna bury something in my box.
Oh my goodness.
He ended up burying it somewhere in Missouri. But not before pulling out. I'm sorry pulling it out of the ground to appear on the television show Ghost Adventures. Haxton stated that the day it arrived. I put my hands on it. Ooh. And it almost feels like the thing collapses into a liquid state. I felt like a knife was coming. That says guy not good.
I noticed that when I first read it. I was like, that's definitely supposed to be you know, it
felt like it was coming into my guy. I was paralyzed in pain. When I go to bed. I have terrible dreams of a hag that seems to come with the box,
just as wife.
Hey, at least someone's coming right? True. Hexton said he first heard about the box from a colleague whose roommate had listed it for sale after a string of terrifying events. The box is said to have come from an Oregon estate sale of a Holocaust survivor I think already said all that. The person who bought the box at the estate sale was told that the box was always shut and set in a place that was out of reach. It was never ever to be opened.
Haxton paid $280 for the box, and when opened, it contained a goblet two locks of hair tied with string pennies from the 1920s, a dried rosebud, a cast iron candlestick holder and a granite statue engraved with Hebrew letters. Haxton said that he didn't believe the stories associated with the box and didn't have any worries about opening it. However, he then became sick and experienced what he called a tidal wave of bad
luck. The issues vanished after Haxton followed a Rabbi's advice to place the cabinet in a gold lined wooden container to negate whatever entity was inside. He now keeps the cabinet inside a military grade case which he buried. There you go now, now the real question. Which supernatural cast member would you let find haven in your box?
Like are we talking like they're gonna haunt me? If that's what you want to do bad things to consume me? Hmm. I mean, I immediately went to Jensen, but then I was like, oh, maybe.
What did you think of the stash?
I mean, I usually don't like stashes and I'm not a fan of it on him. But I mean, it doesn't look bad.
I like to. I watched tombstone after I saw it. I want somebody to put a hat on him, but I was like he was no, but it made me think of Tombstone. I get that. So I watched the movie. It's actually what it is. Jensen needs to do a video where he's like, I'm your Huckleberry. He needs to wax the tips. Yeah. Do the little villainous cool thing with his fingers, you know, on the stash. I like a good stash.
I like a good cleaned. Beard or scruff.
I like facial hair.
I mean, yeah. Yeah. A stash I feel like I can You're like, you look good. Are you kind of creepy?
Like the people who can grow a mustache that just looks like it's dirt on your lip. Shave it. That's what we can we can get rid of that. But the big like, Richard Speight stashes the big ones. All I got, and I liked Jensen, so I thought it looks good. It wasn't like that was all he had. He had other facial hair going on. Yeah. Oh, speaking of Richard Speight. I have a story to tell you. So you know how I'm redoing my gallery
wall downstairs. Yeah. I purchased a print off of red bubble from an artist named Scout, and I showed it to you. It's where it's Richard Speight, Jr. But in the Marvel, Loki crown, an outfit kind of thing. Yes. Love that print. But the dimensions of it are weird. So it is a little thin. Yeah. So it wasn't fitting in anything correctly for my gallery wall. So I went to get custom matting done for it. So it'll fit in the
frame. And the gentleman who helped me, he cracked me up and he made my week we had so much fun together. So I showed him the picture. I showed him the frame, I showed him what matting I wanted, we picked it out and everything. And then he just sat there staring at the picture for a really long time. But to a point where I was starting to be like, cuz it's getting awkward. I don't know what to do. And then he finally looked up at me and went, who is this? And he was elderly. Sweetest could be.
And I was just like, why? And he was like, Who is this? Well, it's, I mean, it's Loki. He's like, No, I recognize the outfit. But who was this and like, pointed at the face? And I said, Oh, and so I explained the Trickster on Supernatural, and you know, that it's like a mesh of the two different things together. He's like, this one's more handsome. And I said, I know. I know. He went. He He looks like a scoundrel. Oh, I've dated a few of those at my time, but I wouldn't mind dating
another man. I was like, Oh, my goodness. Isaac, let me tell you. So I pulled up my phone. And I was like, his name is Richard Speight, Jr. And here's some pictures. And then I told him about driven because we had watched that and know told the most for free and he should go check it out. And he's just like, oh, how have I not seen this man before? It was fun. That's the door. We had a fun little gush session. There was nobody in line. So it's not like we were holding anybody up or
anything like that. Just before anybody comes for me. was perfectly fine. I forgot to get a quote from the movie. Let me find one and I'll paste it in the thing so you can do to close it out?
Did you read that when she's in the parking lot and the box is talking to her? It's saying in Polish. Can I take you can I take you know? That demon in the box is Polish Vizu
that was the actor who played the young rabbi who actually helped him modise Yeah, yeah.
Was this film debut?
I don't know. Where's the bat? Yeah.
Oh, and then at the end when after the car crash Did you read about it the boxes singing a song and fled in Polish. But it's like actually a Polish Lullaby and it's like, they said it's like equivalent for tuit singing Ring around the rosie. Oh, no, but it's like so many mushrooms sitting in the grass. And then it goes on to to like, say more about it. Or sleep till you could sing the whole thing. It's in the IMDB thing, but I'm not gonna sing that for you.
Because you don't love me.
No, I'm just not a very good singer.
Okay. Oh my god.
I mean, did you need to look at what I did. Okay, well, to close it out will quote and and her. Infamous where's my box? Where's my box? Where's my boss?
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