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I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy.
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Hey Burley.
Today is our first indie episode. We are currently on pause with Season Four due to the strike. Also reminder we are doing a fundraiser for the entertainment community fund. If you haven't donated or shared, please do so our goal is to get to $500 before Labor Day, during the current season of denim wrapped nightmares. We were most looking forward to the introduction of Misha Collins and Rob Benedict's characters. We got one but the other one is now delayed.
True. I don't know why that pause. I was like we got one.
Well, we got Misha,
right right. I got it afterwards.
There we go. Rob has been delayed so we went and took a look at his IMDB. We're looking for a horror movie with Gore Lor door type things we could talk about. And we found 30 miles from nowhere.
Now according to the movies website, 30 miles from nowhere is an indie thriller shot outside of Chicago. Who I like my drawing. Would you make? I have a coconut pineapple bubbly water. Oh, I saw you open that and I just mixed that with a vodka.
Nice.
Anyway. All right once more. According to the movies website 30 miles from nowhere as an indie thriller shot outside of Chicago. As part of the film's commitment to diversity. their hiring practices ensured that their cast and crew were both racially diverse and gender balanced. Kudos Nice. Even more notable their writer, director and producers were all women.
Yay. And according to the team, this approach made for a wonderfully collaborative, creative and exciting set and translated into an equally exciting film. Caitlin color is an award winning Australian filmmaker and she was the director, Sienna Coco ID, Coco Coco wide. I'm probably butchering that and I apologize, conclude. Kofoed. Viana Kofoed was the writer and producer. Right now this film is available for free on Friday and Tubi. And I watched it actually on
peacock. So it's on there if you have peacock.
It's also on Vudu if you happen to have that. I watched it on video. So and if you haven't watched it yet, pause the episode and go watch it. I liked it.
When I will say when I first started watching, I was like well, I shouldn't say at first. Excuse me. I shouldn't say first like at first I was like okay, Where's where's this going? There's one scene when we get to it, I'll tell you. I'll be like, Oh, okay. I was like, alright, what are we doing here? But it was I actually really liked the concept. Yeah, but
I mean, it was obviously limited because I'm sure their budget was limited, right? Like I have, I have one thing that I would have loved for them to have been able to do differently. But I imagine it was probably budget constraints that wouldn't have permitted them to do it and they had to work with what they had. But before we get into that, before we dig in, we do like to keep our episodes under an hour. So for our nd episodes that we're doing right now, we aren't going
to be doing a recap. That would take the whole episode. Yeah. But here is a summary from nerds and beyond. After the suicide of their old college Powell, five friends and one new girlfriend descend upon the Wisconsin summer house they used to frequent in their youth. The creep factor at the cabin is high with a shrine to violence in the basement, blood spurting from the pipes and to delusional mother to rifting about the
property in a night gown. When a dead man starts appearing at the house, they begin to wonder who they buried if not their friend, and find themselves faced with the ultimate human dilemma to kill or be killed in order to make it to morning. Also heads up. There is a Louden Swain song featured in the film bandaged head or not bandaged head bandage hand is played when they're meeting up at the bar.
Oh nice.
Which Louden Swain is Rob Bennett expand for those of you who don't know, my two drinks here. All right. All right. So let's move in to the gore the Lauren what we adore let's let's start with adore. I adored the cast. Yeah, I thought everybody on the cast nailed it.
I think I liked everybody but the the one. Well, to be clear,
I liked the cast and their performances right the characters Okay. None of them were likable not a single one. Yeah, no, they're all shitty people. Yeah. Which I actually liked that too.
Are they to what you were saying? Yes, they all did a good job.
Yeah, that's what I met the cast, the ensemble cast the performances. I thought they all did really well. Also that like white patch.
Oh, I know. You told me that. I was like, oh, settle down.
It was so high and Robin had expired. I've seen it in some pictures and like he's gotten more gray, so it doesn't stand out as much. But this was like earlier on whenever it's just like this white patch. I love that. So hot.
I feel like he was definitely like the comic relief with it in the film. He was a
sweaty, Drama Queen shit starter, and therefore my favorite character in the movie, obviously. I love Larry. He was a total asshole. And like, I wouldn't wanna hang out with Larry. But for sitting there watching the drama. I loved Larry. Yeah, he was starting to shift left and right. Trying to stick his dick in anything that moved talking shit about everybody. Yeah, I love Larry. He was great. And like I said, I did see I was reading a couple
of other reviews. And I did see one where somebody was complaining. Like, none of the characters are likable, but like I said, um, I liked that. I think that was a point to Yeah, they were shitty people. And I think that was kind of like you said, I think that was kind of the point. Yeah, they're shitty friends. We're putting them in this shitty position. And you kind of felt like maybe they kind of deserved, right? I mean, not really. But for being fictional character me there
were shitty people. I mean, somebody did get shot and killed. But granted, like she, she's part of who like set the trap and did the whole thing and was purposely trying to push them to the point of doing that
right? Egg on her face. Right. I mean, Pokemon, okay, next. And
I it was a twist as to which one of them ended up being the person to pull the trigger. I did think that was a twist. He still wasn't a good pair character. But out of all of the characters. He was the nicest, right? He
seemed like the most decent.
Passive. Yeah, you know, he never stood up for himself throughout the entire film, like out of all the characters, he would be the one you would least suspect to get violent. Yeah. So those are things I adored. What about you?
I'll tell you one thing I didn't adore. Were the fucking giant cockroaches in the one scene. Okay, so weird. That's coming up in the gore, whatever, but
I had it listed as a gore item even though it's not technically gory. No, you're good. We're going into Gore anyway. But where did they come from? That was one thing I do wish they could have spent a little bit more time on again. Indie film, budget restraints, time restraints, yada, yada, yada. But where where did they come from? Where did they come from? Where did they go? Where did they come from Katonah to
fucking huge I like, so I started watching it one night, and then I had to come back to it and watch it again. And when I knew that scene was coming up, I couldn't even look at the screen. And even the sound. I was like, I was a little disturbed by as well. I mean,
they were massive, like see, oh, my god, palm of your hand massive. And they did say earlier in the movie than you know, in hindsight, I guess it was forced out. There was a ton of stuff that was foreshadowing in that bar. At the beginning. There was a ton of foreshadowing obviously didn't know it at the time. But I watched the movie twice. So then when we when I watched the second time when I saw them in the bar, I was like, Oh shit.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Because she's so stuff. Well, I
was like, that's where I think like, where did they come from? Like she purposely put them?
Well, I know. But like, did she was she in like, the roof and like pushing them through a hole in the roof? Like, where did they come from? Like, I know she did it. She and Max set it up. But how did they get them in there to where all of a sudden these two people are covered with bugs? I don't know. But I would fucking know if that thing was on me. Well, that one girl thought that somebody was like tickling her arm.
She know. He's different. All right.
Now I'm not going to but and then when they jumped up and we're screaming and the guys came in there, they were gone. So we're, yeah, I don't know. That was odd. That's like, okay, like, Where'd they go? How'd you get them in the room? And how'd you like? Where they trained? Did you like have them trained to come back and through the wall crack or something? Crack And where'd they go? Were they
supposed to still be there? I like because they were staying up in the corner so maybe they were still there and you just couldn't see them anymore. I don't I don't know the cockroaches. creep factor really high. would have been a really great method for increasing fear and tension and all of that. I just didn't understand where they came from and where they went.
Yeah, it was. It was odd. But sorry, I had to jump to that first, but I did really like. I can't remember all their names, but the girlfriend that showed up.
Oh, yeah, she's 23 year old pussy. Right Larry was really excited to try and get
oh my god. Yeah. But I liked. She was like, I like she was the one that was legit. Like I'm getting I want to leave. Like, I want to find a way to leave and get out of here. And I was like, That would be me. Yeah, I would want to leave as well. That and she was really great at screaming. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, Good lord. Yeah. It's like she's good for a horror movie. No screams when the girlfriend is. She looked familiar. She's Ryan Vergara is
my I think Oh, is that? Yes. Is that um, am I saying his name wrong?
No, that's right. No, I knew she looked familiar. But I couldn't place where I'd seen her. But I think you're probably right. Because she definitely looked familiar. Yeah, she did. Good. Yeah. And yeah, definitely a scream queen. For sure. I enjoyed her to watch. Like I said, I already enjoy or enjoy.
Yeah, and of course, like I said, Rob, I liked that he was kind of a bit of the comic relief for it all.
So the goriest scene, to me that moved me out the most, which again, we find out by the end of the movie that this house has been set up and rigged to be a Fear Factory, essentially. And there was Bess, and she was at the kitchen sink, and I can't remember what she was doing. But she had somehow cut her finger. And so she was rinsing her finger at the kitchen sink, and then blood started coming out of
the sink instead of water. And I immediately was just like, Oh, my God, I would have been so paranoid, I would have been wanting to leave immediately. Because what diseases did I just get
exactly? Like, oh, contamination? Yeah. Infectious diseases. What's going on?
Give me the hell out of here. And then it showed her in the shower later, and the same thing happened, but she didn't even notice.
See, that was the scene where I was like, Okay, what is this? Because she's just showering and normal. First of all, there was the.on the on the wall and she just put soap on it or something. I was like, Oh, my God.
But does she think like, Oh, I got my period, or I sneeze and blood came out. Yeah, like she just blew it off. Like let me just put some soap on top of this blood and just keep showering. It was weird.
But yeah, she's just showering and then all of a sudden, first of all, I don't close my eyes. I mentioned the shower. Maybe I'm the weirdo but then she's just showering and letting this blood drip all over enough so that the blood drips all over her and then when it turns back to water it's like all God she rents us at all
you can really enjoy that spray she never noticed as well. You couldn't kill the mood because you know she got laid right after
true. It's good thing she got cleaned up first, right.
Can you imagine if Jack had come in? She was just covered in blood. I don't know the way all these characters are acting. I don't know that he would have been turned off through he probably would have just gone for it. Anyway. Everybody's real horny and waving with his girlfriend in the next room. Yeah, just FYI. Everyone's real mourning for all the horniness. Not any nudity? Nope. Really? You know, I thought there was surely going to be some nudity at some point. With everybody just wanting to
fuck the whole movie. But no, we didn't. We didn't get any of that. There's a point where the girlfriend I keep forgetting her name.
I forget all our names.
I remember Larry and Jack and Bess.
I should have the ample of their IMDb the IMDB page. Okay,
I'll pull that up. Because I didn't write down names unless I wanted to say something specific about it. But the 23 year old girlfriend whenever they wake up after their first night there, she's hung over She immediately runs over to the sink and pukes and those sounds were very realistic amateur. So she's vomiting in the sink. And then later on in the episode The sink gets backed up. So this is the sink that's
been puked in. This is the sink that has had blood running from the faucet and down the sink. And so they're messing with it messing with it and this sink like splooge is all over two of the female characters faces it was best and who was the other one?
Is it the group? No, it was Elaine.
Okay best and Elaine it's fluid is all over them. Elaine gets cleaned up. But best inexplicably just leaves this blood vomit splooge stuff on her face. All over her for the rest of the episode. So that bothered me not even a wipe.
Yeah like it literally was like caked on her face after I
would have taken my shirt off and use my shirt to clean my face and hung out in my bra before I would have just hung out with that all over my favorite
like they were in the kitchen. There's got to be a towel around something Look, you
can go take another bottom. You can take another shower. It's okay. You know, but she doesn't she goes and hangs out with Larry.
Bloody faced and Oh, yeah.
This like you weren't gonna make out with him because he had puke breath. You think he's gonna make Wanna make out with you now? Yeah, I mean, Larry didn't seem picky. So yeah, so for the gore factor the finger, the sink splooge. But for me, what moved me out more was best leaving this excludes on herself. Yeah. Which granted, it was getting very tense, very scary, all of that. So maybe, but that just, I wouldn't have left it on me. And the cockroaches. I would say those
were the ugliest things. There were a ton of little scary things that happened though, man. It was just creepy. She was good. I couldn't figure out if she was in on it. Or she actually was a little delusional,
or No, I think she was because in the end, like, Isn't she like walking off with one of them?
Yeah, she walks off with Macs. But that doesn't mean that she understood what had just happened.
She had all that stuff coming out of her mouth when they discovered her in the room. I think she was on on it.
Well, she might have been in on that part. I was just trying to figure out like, is she actually delusional? Or is she completely putting on it act? Like obviously, she was in on it to an extent. But by how much? Yeah, I guess it doesn't really matter. She was creepy. She did well.
So whatever the severe lady was hacking at. Paul came up on her at that one point. What was she hacking at?
I have no idea. I assumed it was a stray dog, I think yeah, I think that's what it was. I think she was like using the stray dogs. Yeah. Yeah. Now as far as far as a criticism, but which like I said, I don't even know that this could be a criticism because it could have just been because of indie movie restrictions. But at the end, I did get a little confused. I wish they could have done another scene, like with a mediator or something where like, the friends wanted to sue
them. And then the guest book came out and it was revealed that you actually did sign over your consent to participate in all of this. Because it just was odd to me that the cops had that and we're like, yeah, no, you signed you consent. Like, cops wouldn't be doing that. I don't think.
Yeah, unless I guess I mean, they know the town and they know that they're doing shit like this. There. That's what I was thinking. I
was like, So are the cops in on it, too. Yeah. Must be the way she presented it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's all I was saying is just, they had, it seems like they were having to wrap everything up with the ambulance and the cops and everybody else showing up and trying to tie it all up. Right then they're I wish that could have been just a little bit more separate. Yeah, I agree. It was very, like wrapped up quick. Yeah. Like I barely had time to absorb what was happening before the credits
were rolling. I agree. Yeah. So I wish there could have been just like one more scene,
or like a little easy, like a more. Like, it was just so very, like upfront, like a more like subtle, like, way of revealing that I guess
we're even Max explaining like coming up with the book and explaining to the cops like no, you all signed your consent right here.
Well, that also like, the that whole thing was a little confusing to me, because I'm like, okay, it was there. It didn't even look like there was a page before where they were signing. But I mean, I guess obviously there was, well, it was opened whenever they signed. Yeah, but so I mean, come on.
How's that going? Gonna hold up in a court of law? That's what that's why I'm saying is like the fact that the cops are doing an image. It's kind of like, oh, well, okay. Yeah, I wish they could have done something a little bit more with the evidence that, but I agree with you the premise, the vast majority of the script, like I said, there were these tiny little things that I wish could have been fleshed out a little bit more. Yeah. But I liked it. I enjoyed it. Overall.
And I wasn't sure I was going to
be honest. Well, like I said, when you when I got when that first scene with the her in the shower, or the blood, I was like, Alright, what's happening here? Oh, this is silly. But then like, and then like, I kept kind of thinking that as I watched it, but then when it got to the end, and it kind of did reveal that I was like, oh, that's fucking clever.
Yeah, like as if it could have just been fleshed out a little bit more angry. Yeah, it would have been like five stars. Right? You know, but I would give it three, three and a half.
Yeah, I think I feel like I don't know how they could have done it different. But they spent a little too much time on the like, the chase element of it like getting like where they're in the house and things shifts happening and all that. And then I think trying to develop their camaraderie or whatever, from college days or whatever. Like maybe they could have shortened those two aspects to like, spend a little more time on the reveal.
I liked all that stuff.
No, I did too. I'm just saying
Couldn't they have just made the movie longer? La? Well, I
guess, but I'm just saying if like for what you're saying you wanted, they probably could have cut a little bit of those things to have left more room? Well, if that better reveal,
if that was the decision that I understand why they made the decision they did, because I do think that those things were important.
Right. But they could have been my point is like, they could have been done in a different way. That could have been short. I mean, I'm not a fucking filmmaker. So
that's what I'm saying, like, I don't know, as an indie film, you know, what their budget was the if they had to be super limited on locations, you know, I understand there's all these other factors that come into play, where you're not always going to be able to do everything you want to do. And sometimes you just have to make it work. So I get that. Just from the viewer standpoint, you know, just those. Where did the
cockroaches come from? I would have liked to have seen that a little bit more.
See, but that my point right there? Like that was kind of an unnecessary scene.
I almost think, okay, budget aside, let's say they have all the budget in the world. Well, not all the budget in the world, but you know what I mean? Yeah, they had more money, right? It would have been cool to have like a montage during the credits, where it showed, oh, girl and Max, like actually setting up the house to be this trap, right? Or like, were their
friends when things were going on, like them conversing? Or, like, let's do that. Okay, what's next up hit this like? Yeah,
showed them more of their plan. Yeah, show them actually doing stuff outside the house. Right. Being all sneaky and everything. Yeah, that would have been a fun thing to have seen. From the from their perspective. Yeah, what they were seeing. I agree. Yeah. But yeah, I was I was surprised how much I liked it. I definitely liked it. I obviously had to deal with the restrictions. We've already kind of gone into
that. But it's worth a watch. So if you didn't hit pause, and go watch it before you continued listening to this episode, I think you should give it a view. Give it a view. Check it out.
Check it out. All right,
so into lore.
So the lore is the good old rickety cabin in the woods. It's been the site of many hunting trips, Lakeside vacations, and according to Hollywood, fairly frequent bloody killing sprees. This setting has become so common in horror films, that it has been elevated to the status of trope. And it's easy to see why a cabin is isolated, it's easy to make the woods seem scary, especially at night. And it makes for a really cheap set to build, which means more money for fake blood. Which we saw
lots of in this one. The trope has become so popular that you could honestly make an argument for a sub genre status, which I kind of agree. Yeah. Even when the cabin isn't exactly a cabin. It's an isolated refuge against attacking evil plunked down in the middle of some insurmountable wilderness,
which there's so many movies, so many, unfortunately, a lot of them are from struck companies, so we're not going to list them out. Yeah, even the original one that I can think of, I will say because Sam Raimi Evil Dead. Even that one I think is owned by a stroke company now. Oh, yeah. So but there are a ton of them out there. It's crazy. How many?
Well, that's why I think like it's a perfect argument to make it a sub genre. It really could be
it should be Yeah, quote, close it out. From Larry. Played by the fabulous Mr. Rob Benedict, we finally got to see him in action. He said, what was in those pork buns? shares. Thank you for listening to denim wrapped nightmares.
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