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I'm burly, and I'm a new fan of the series.
I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy. Hello, well, hello, barely on our last episode, which was titled, time is on my side?
I think so. Yeah, sounds right.
Time is running out for Dean. We learn he has three weeks left from our good buddy Rufus who is buddies of Bobby. It was in Erie, Pennsylvania. They investigate the boys investigate a possible zombie case. But they discover that it's actually duck Benton, a real life Doctor Who in 1816 abandoned his medical practice to follow his his obsession with finding the key to alert to eternal life by drugging people and stealing their vital organs. And Bobby's friend, Rufus actually knows where Bella is
hiding. Dean heads out to confront her realizes that she actually herself has made a deal with a demon. They kind of battle it out for the last time and he leaves her in a desperate and possibly fatal position. We really don't know what happened. I mean, we assume y'all homes came for her because her 10 years were up but they didn't show it right. So knows. Yeah, she could be out there running and kick and she could have figured something out.
I hope so. Well, today's episode is titled no rest for the wicked. It's the 16th episode of season three. And it's the season finale. This is it. It premiered on May 15 2008. Before the episode kicks off when they do their little recap at the beginning but then and now thing it was a montage and it was the song carry on wayward son and we both went whoo like oh, this is meaningful this is really kicking off the season
finale here. I think this is the first time the season finale started with carry off wayward son I can't remember okay, I don't remember that happening for season two but maybe it did. Yeah, I don't know. Who knows. It starts off with this forest and Dean is running through the forest and the camera work la really liked that. Yes,
chin was indeed definitely wasn't Steadicam like that either that it was like the cameraman running with him or GoPro style with like on him I think maybe both I don't know.
Those they did different angles too. But yes, sometimes it was down low Near his feet and sometimes it was up high closer to his face. Just adding to this chaotic yeah feel of trying to get away we can hear the hell hounds growling and barking and they're chasing Dean through this forest and he's like no trying to get away. But he wakes up turns out he had fallen asleep while he was researching hellhounds and who would have known what would have
given him nightmares? They are I think they're at Bobby's Yeah, I think so. They were at Bobby's I think He's researching by candlelight. I thought that was interesting. So maybe they're somewhere else and then some other abandoned home like they've been doing throughout the season. They're really fun to those who knows they didn't really show us a whole lot of scenery so I'm not sure where they work.
I mean honestly Bobby's house doesn't look like it's fully running any
that shit hasn't been renovated like recently or anything but the candle light is what made me think maybe yeah, maybe there were somewhere else. Sam comes in and he's checking in on Dean letting him know that Bobby has found a way to find little this location because of
course he did. While they're talking we see that Dean is hallucinating we learned back in crossroad blues, that when a hellhound is coming for you start hallucinating and like the face Sam space is getting all warped and everything.
Yeah, so I guess it's the demons. You start seeing the demons around you. When the hell hounds are coming at it.
Well, yeah, we find that out later in the episode. But Sam wasn't possessed. It was just his face. That's right, remember? Yeah, it was the same thing as that woman the wife being like, I love you honey back in crossword blues and her face when Wall Yeah, yeah, so it's just hallucinations, and Bobby calls him on this later in the episode. Dean's trying to play it cool. Zan. Like oh, yeah, we should go to Tijuana. Check out a donkey show. You
know, fuck this. And at some point, we find out Dean has 30 hours left, and it's nighttime. So Bobby has some fancy. What was the thing that you would use in geometry class to like, draw a perfect circle? Projector? Yeah, he had a fancy Protractor that stands up right over a map. And he said some spell in Latin and it started swinging around. Bobby said that with his little spell, he would know it down to the street name so they know
exactly where Lilith is. But Dean starts pushing back against Bobby and Sam saying, Okay, who cares if we know where she is? We literally have no way to kill her. Why are we going to go after her? What are we going to do when we get there? You know, I'm down to do something. But I don't want to do something stupid. That's just going to get everybody killed with me. Sam, proposes that they summon Ruby, because, you know, she has that fancy knife that kills demons. She might have some more
information. And Dean says, No, she's a fucking liar. You know, Ruby knew Lilith knew about Lilith knew that Lilith wanted to kill you. Surely she knew that Lilith is who holds the contract on my soul. And she didn't say shit. I don't trust her anymore. So all that work Ruby did and Malleus Maleficarum to get Dean to trust her. It's undone now. Yeah, because Bella told him Lilith owns your contract. Bobby tries to cut in and say that Sam's right. But Dean says no, it's not
happening. Sam ignores Dean and summons Ruby anyway. Ruby is telling Sam that like she wants him to kill Lilith and that with his psychic powers. They're just dormant right now but he'll be able to do it that basically Sam is a walking bomb, and that she can help him get ready to kill villas, so I feel like I was kind of right that Ruby's like using them. She wants them to kill demons. She doesn't like or
whatever, for some reason. Yeah. And I was thinking maybe Lilith was in her Coven with her, but based off of the lore Lilith is older than that she wouldn't be a witch in some coven. So, I don't know what the connection is there. Why? Why Ruby doesn't like Lilith. But Ruby's saying she wants them to kill Bella. I also thought it was interesting that Lilith or Ruby knew Lilith was like on vacation somewhere.
Huh?
How'd she know that?
Right? Also, what a vacation.
It was a weird vacation. Yeah,
maybe that's sort of demon especially. Yeah,
that's what you're gonna do. Like, you can go anywhere. You can do anything. And this is what you're gonna do? Was seemed a little weird. Yeah. Oh, wow. So Ruby knows where Lilith is as well and knows that Lilith is like, just on vacation that she's, you know, she'll be caught off guard. She's just chilling out relaxing. And she wants to coach Sam and get him ready to go kill Lilith. But Sam says, you know, just give me the knife. We don't have time for
this bullshit. Luckily, Dean totally suspected that Sam was going to do this anyway. So he had painted a devil's trap on the ceiling, and taunted Ruby into a fight got her in the devil's trap, got the knife away from her, and told Sam you know, I knew you were gonna do this. Anyway, thank God, I'm here.
It was pretty smooth.
It was it did a good job. She was pissed. Yeah, she was not happy. And
I liked that. He did it on the ceiling rather than the floor trapping her because that was genius. Well, they've
done that trick before. I
know. But like, especially in this situation, so that Sam didn't really notice it. Even though he's tall as hell, he probably would have saw it.
Yeah, but it was a nice callback because they haven't done it in a while. Right. It's been a while since we've seen a double strap on the ceiling. So it was it was nice. And Ruby was furious. She was like, Are you gonna fuckin leak me here? Ah, and they were just like, yeah, see you later, bitch. So they've got Ruby's knife. And Dean's like, this is what you wanted. Right? We've got the knife.
Let's go. Sam does kind of push back and try to get Dean to listen to Ruby because of the whole Euro psychic bomb thing. And maybe I can help maybe I'll be able to give us some sort of advantage. But again, Dean is like, no, no, we've got the knife. Let's go. They try to leave and Bobby catches them. In fact, Bobby had disabled the car. Now. This was weird. They're in the Impala. And Dean's trying to start the engine. Bobby comes up to the window knocks on it is like, Oh,
are you looking for this? And he holds something. Now. I don't know anything about car parts. So I'm not sure what this thing was. But what it looked like, was a piece of like a smoke detector or something.
Yeah, I agree. I don't know much about cars either. But it was like some weird plastic looking thing. And I don't know how many plastic things I've seen in a engine. So
so we're curious if anybody knows what this part was that Bobby had in his hand? Let us know. Like DMS on Instagram or Twitter or something? I'm honestly interested to know what that was supposed to be because it did not look like anything from a car to me. Anyway, Bobby is like you're not fucking going without me. We're family. We're gonna go fight together. In the meantime, we see that Lilith has taken over bodies have a different little girl. So it's not the same body of the little
girl from Justin bellow. It's a blonde girl and this little girl actress. She killed it.
She did. She was cute and she did well.
Yeah. When she was supposed to be scary intimidating menacing nailed it when she was supposed to be happy go lucky. I'm a little kid. She nailed it. But the little girl did good. Yeah, I do think it's weird that this demon keeps taking the bodies of children though.
Again like yeah, that's why I was like, this is your vacation like you're gonna go be a kid and terrorize this family. I guess that's what they get off on. I don't know.
I guess so. Because she was doing things like it was her birthday every day. So the mom's having to make a birthday cake for her huge cake every day there are doing a birthday party every day the grandpa tries to get help from a neighbor and she figures it out and breaks his neck spends his neck This is the third time we've seen somebody's head get spun around. Yeah, by her to write each No, no, the in Sin City. It was Oh god. What was his name? Richie. Richie,
the Succubus spun his head. And then in malleus, Maleficarum, the demon the good Dick demon. You got that good Dick demon. She spun one of the witches heads. And now we have Lilith spinning this grandpa's head. And just making the mom read a story to her over and over and over again. I mean, this family is being tortured. And yeah, I guess that's what demons do for fun.
I mean, who knew? Yeah, rather be on a beach.
But she killed the family pet and apparently killed the babysitter freckle. Yeah. So yeah, Ben Dean are heading to this talent in Indiana to go confront villas. When they're driving there. Sam tries to have a serious talk. Kind of say goodbye to his brother just in case. Dean's like no, we're not doing this. And he puts on Bon Jovi Wanted Dead or Alive. They just kind of jam out for a little bit. But we do see that Dean kind of go serious toward the end. You know, he knows what's coming.
Yeah. And it took a minute for Sam to get into it. But he got into it with him. It was like, kind of back and
forth. Yeah, once Sam got into it, Dane got serious. So yeah, they kind of traded rules there. They get pulled over by a cop on their way there. And whenever the cop comes up to the driver's side window and is talking with Diem, getting license registration, yada yada yada. Dean realizes it's a demon. Because apparently he can now see demons true faces. So he pushes open the door and has Ruby's knife and kills the fucking cop. Bobby is behind them and helps them hide the cop
car and get rid of the body. He is the one who kind of says, well, you're about to go to hell. So it makes sense that the veil between you and demons is going to get thinner and thinner and that you're going to be able to see them. I think the way he put it whenever they asked him to just say it in English. I think he said, you know, you're about to be Hell's bitch. So it makes sense that you can see the other bitches of hell. You know, it was real classy. I liked it.
They make it to the town and they realize that there are other demons stationed all over the place. There's like a mailman and neighbor. There's just demons everywhere. And Dean notices that the little girl is Lilith because he can see her true face and she looks different from everybody else. They're slowly taking out demons, you know, kind of clearing the way so to speak. When Ruby shows up. And Dean is disgusted by her real face up close. He's like, Oh my God, you're fucking ugly. I never
noticed. And she is pissed. She's like, I want my knife back. And Sam says no, like, help us and she says it's too late. Like I needed time to help you. And now it's too late. In the meantime, Bobby has gotten into the irrigation system, and is blessing the water in the sprinklers. pullin old John Winchester trick from back in season one, I think where he's got a rosary and across and he sang Latin. He drops it in
there. So they turn on the sprinklers to the house that Lilith is in there for creating like a barricade so all these demons aren't going to be able to come in and gang up on them.
Well done. Well done guy.
Good job, Bobby. Yeah.
Because that you'd like it shows us a shot outside and they're literally all just standing there waiting for the sprinklers to go off.
I liked it. So Sam picks the lock. Dean and Ruby are with Sam all three of them go into the house. They spot the babysitter like laying in the entryway with giant fucking flies.
She's hard to miss. She's like right in the walkway, bleeding and then just flies attached to her face.
Yeah, they should move it. No, not at all. They showed her earlier in the episode as well. And it's still those giant flies like right there whatever. They're going through the house they run into the dad first he's downstairs by himself and Dean tells him You need to go in the basement, put a line of salt behind you at the door and stay there until we tell you it's okay to come out. And the husband at first is like, no, not without my wife. And they're like, yes, without your wife.
And he starts saying no and kind of getting a little louder. So then knock his ass out which good man,
man wanting his wife to be with them. Save her too. But you know,
yeah, Dean throws the husband over his shoulder and carries them down to the basement and assaults the door.
Also, he throws him over his shoulder like it's a child. Yeah, I was like, nothing. And he's a grown man the size of the him.
I don't think he was as tall as dean. Well, yeah,
either way, has grown man pick up slightly smaller than D if
he can throw throw him over his shoulder. Imagine what he could do with you. Sit with that for a moment. Dean takes the husband down to the basement. And whenever this was happening, you know, Sam and Ruby are starting to head upstairs. And I said to La then wouldn't it make more sense for Sam to take the dad down to the basement because Dean can see little the space so he'll be able to see that she's still on the little girl's body. You know, what if she's moved?
Right. And I didn't think about that until he was like, inching toward the bed. But you were totally right.
So Ruby goes in one room. I don't know why they split up. Ruby goes in a completely different room. For some reason. I still don't understand why that happened. And Sam goes into the little girl's bedroom because that's where the husband said they were. The wife is still laying there. And the little girl is asleep on top of her and Sam inches around the bed. And the wife is just going to it. Do it. Do it kill her.
Terrified.
Yes, she's so scared. The little girl starts to wake up and Dean shows up. Thankfully, just the right moment is like stop. That's not her like she's not in here. They send all of the family into the basement with the husband salt the door. Stay there don't come out. Yet. Again. Sam is trying to get Ruby to tell him what he needs to do to help and Ruby is still telling him it's too late, which maybe I got those things mixed up. Maybe that didn't happen
earlier. But right now it's definitely happening that she's like it's too fucking late. Like I can't help you. It's too late. Dean stops some and tells him like, Listen, this is it. I'm gonna go to hell. You're going to let me see there's really tearful goodbye, Jared paddle like his eyes getting all teary again. It was so good. Sam asks him, you know, what am I supposed to do? And Dean tells them keep fighting. Take care of my wheels. Remember what dad taught you. And remember what I
taught you. The clock strikes midnight, while they're sitting there kind of waiting for the hellhounds to show up. Like we can hear them howling and growling and whatnot. All of them are in this office. They've put goofer dust at the door. goofer dust at the window, which we found out about Cooper just again back across red blues season two, to try and keep the hell hounds out. Ruby all of a sudden starts asking for the knife. She wants the knife back. Give me the knife, give me the
knife. And then Dean says, Wait, that's not Ruby,
right? Which I thought it was weird. Like all of a sudden, she's like, give it to me give it to me.
She hasn't been insisting on having the knife this entire time. You're not the one who the hell hounds are going to come after. So why do you suddenly want to have the knife so bad? I didn't connect it until you were kind of going wait, wait, like you were saying that whenever she started insisting on Give me the knife, give me the knife. I just don't understand why it took Dean so long to see that it was Lillith. Right? That doesn't make sense when he saw her face so clearly before.
Maybe it was he was just distracted and worried about the hellhounds or something. Yeah.
Who knows. That's what the writers decided. So Ruby or not Ruby Lillith. In the old body, Ruby was possessing, like pushes Dean, and he's pinned up against this desk. And then she pushes Sam and he's pinned up against the wall and her eyes go white. So we see that it is in fact Lilith. And I have to say, I don't know who this actress is. I should have looked this up. But this scene is my favorite performance from this actress so far this season.
She's her name's Kate Cassidy. She's what's his name? Cassidy. It's his daughter. Goddamn. What's his name?
I don't know. I didn't know the actresses name either.
It's gonna drive me nuts anyway,
but out of the whole season, this was my favorite scene of hers.
I know you don't like her. So
I thought she did good. As little as though the little you know, things that she was doing. And just, it was my favorite
scene even like the inflection of your voice a couple times. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, she did really well here. She's annoyed the hell out of me is Ruby but I liked her in this scene when she was Lillith and kind of taunting them. Kissing Sam. Yeah. Yeah, like your hips are soft. And yeah, you're right the way she was inflecting she was doing her voice different. I mean, it was interesting. She made some really interesting too. races and it worked. Yeah, I really liked her in this scene.
I feel like she also played the line of like, still a little bit of a little girl that she's been inhabiting.
It seemed like it was like a cross between that and also acting in human. Yes. Yeah. You know, there was just awkwardness and not quite naturally human gestures and things she was it was really interesting.
Yeah, she did a really good job. Yeah. Especially if this is her. I don't know. But if this is her last episode,
well, I think you told you told me that Genevieve paddle lucky takes over the Ruby character at some point, I think. Yeah, this next season? I
think so. So that's, that's what yeah, that's why I'm wondering if this is her last episode. And I think I read it was due to like scheduling conflicts with something else. And that's why they had to bring somebody else in. That makes sense. But if this was her last episode, what a way to go out. Yeah, it was seriously
like she has annoyed the fuck out of me. But this scene, I was just like, yes. And so it kind of made me sad because I was hoping she was going to stay Lilith, and we were going to see more of her being Lilith but yeah, that's not what happens because she gets rid of the goofer dust and the hellhounds come in. Look Dean up.
Oh my god. Yeah, like that. I remember whatever episode it was. Were they the hellhound slash the ladies leg?
Yeah, we were like damn, they slashed the shit out of it was a crossroad blues. Yes. Yeah. Like it's chest blood was slang wording everywhere. And then she holds her hand out and shoots this bright white light towards Sam, which I guess was supposed to kill him or something?
I don't know. Because they all are so fixated on Sam and then like, Gore, whoever it was that said he's supposed to lead them all. It's like they're they're so fixated on him. So it's like I think she just took him out of the situation. Well, she she meant to kill him.
But whenever he was okay, after she did it, that's when she started acting scared. Oh, you're right. Yeah. So something was supposed to happen that didn't whatever it was. She did I did not pick up on that at all. Yeah, she started acting like scared whenever Sam just kind of was like what the fuck and just stood up. She started being like, Oh my God. And then Sam started coming toward her and she bailed like the black sheep black smoke vomited into the ceiling vent that went right
over my head. So I guess the actresses because we found out last? I think it was was it last episode that we find out these demons ride these bodies hard. Jane told us Yeah, so she felt the actress's body vessel whatever you want to call it, I'm guessing is done for Yeah, it was laid right next to Dean's Yeah, it was laid right next to Dean's body. So Sam has rubies knife. You know, she bailed out. Dean's body and the previous body that Ruby was inhabiting and Lillith build out of they're
both on the floor. And it kind of pans down zooms in through Dean's beautiful green eyes. Jensen did really well yet again. He did this in Mystery Spot where his eyes weren't focused on anything. It looks like a dead body. camera zooms in on it we go through there's like smoke and lightning. It seems like as a thunderstorm. There's chains everywhere and zooms down to Dean and he's like hooked like meat. Yeah, through his shoulder. his ribcage. Both of his legs just pulled taut.
There's blood all in his mouth. And he's just screaming for help. And he calls out Sam's name. And that's the end of the episode.
When he called Sam I was like, oh God. Not daddy fan.
I mean, isn't daddy still down there?
Daddy? True but you would think you might have called for daddy. Oh, well, no daddy on there.
I wonder if daddy is down there because he got out remember? And all hell breaks loose at the end of the he got out of hell. He came out and helped them kill Azazel I can't imagine that he willingly went right back down to hell.
I guess I just thought he was summoned and went straight back in.
I wouldn't know. Yeah, I don't know. What's he doing? What's his Spirit doing?
Yeah. Why isn't he helping them? Where are you at?
John Winchester? Maybe he did just go right back to hell. I don't know. This episode was written by Eric crypkey. And it was directed by Kim manners. I kind of thought it was Kim manners. In the beginning they were doing some close ups. Oh, yeah. You mentioned that reminded me of the close ups we saw in Magnificent Seven The season premiere and I knew Kim manners directed the season premiere.
He's good though, because it does call for more dramatics with those. Yeah, and especially between Sam and Dean.
His style is different. Like he doesn't do the exact same thing from episode to episode. So I do I appreciate that. And this episode needed it because in my opinion, it was kind of weak. There wasn't a lot of meat to it. Like I feel like this episode could have been chopped down to 30 minutes and it wouldn't have lost all that much if that makes sense.
Yeah, it wasn't the best finale I would say,
it was good. I enjoyed it. Yeah. But if it was like 1015 minutes shorter I don't think that it would have lost anything right
like it still left off on a hang up. Still left off on a cliffhanger. But yeah, I think it Yeah, it was a little too much filler.
Yeah, stuff was stretched out. Yeah. You know like the stuff with Lilith like we got it. She's a devious little child. Yeah.
Right. Or give me some more backstory on that, like, give me some more backstory and Ruby or something. I would have some more backstory on Ruby. Yeah, especially. Yeah, something like that would have added to it. I think a little better. Yeah.
Maybe we'll get more next season. Yeah, hopefully. I mean, there was the writer strike who knows logistics behind the scenes how that ended up affecting this season. It's awesome that they got decent season. Yeah. Still kudos. But just this isn't going to be one of my favorites. For sure. Whenever we have our finale next next episode, that was no rest for the wicked. Love the name. So gore. I mean, obviously, Dean's death was the Court yesterday. Yeah. Holy shit. They went all out. Yeah.
It was not great. I mean, it was good. It was good. Yeah.
I didn't want to see my guy like that. Oh.
Something I didn't bring up earlier that I did bring up when we were watching the show. Is that Dean was saying stuff like he was quoting the trickster. Oh, yes. Yeah, during this episode talking about your my weakness, and they know it too. weak spot. Yeah, you're my weak spot. We can't keep sacrificing each other. We can't be martyrs all the time. And Sam was still just like,
No. Which, it's so funny because he keep mentioning like, Sam just not get anything from God. And Dean like Dean, like
he was too distracted with his beauty.
Well, but like you would think like Dean didn't take much out of it either. But all of a sudden, he's like literally saying exactly what the Trickster said. Yeah. And it's like, why are you just not bringing this up on 30 hours left? That's when you want to talk about this. God, man.
I do like that. It just was all tying in. We're Dean. Dean's learned the lesson. And he wasn't even the one who went through the lesson plan so to speak, and Dean's got it. Yeah. So it's just like, come on Sammy. program to
get stay on. He was like, no, no, I love my brother. He's gonna live. I'll do whatever it takes. Oh, goodness.
As far as things to adore. Like I said, I really adored the Lilith Ruby as Lillith. I adored that scene. I thought the actress she nailed that. I agree. I liked that.
Well, I adore that you adored that. I've been hating on her so much. I have not enjoyed her
character at all. And I do think it's interesting that the second she was playing a different character is when I was like, Ooh, yeah, so I guess I just really don't like Ruby.
Well, now I'm curious to see if Jen paddle AKI
is gonna like her right? Yeah. Is she gonna annoy the fuck out of me? Yeah, we'll see. So but I was I hope not as her like she's gonna be lucky. So I hope she doesn't annoy me as Ruby. But I do not like Ruby, man. I
hope not. But as we were watching, I even had like you didn't say anything. But I was sitting there thinking like, I hope she kind of likes this little transition of her and how she's playing. Yeah, I do. And then you mentioned and I was like, yes. Yeah, I
did. I liked that. I liked that part.
Oh, well, I did like my everyone. I adored that. But I also adored that. Finally, the two of them have like you just said the conversation of your my weak spot. The tricksters, the tricksters lesson conversate. And like not so many words, like we're literally too dependent on each other. And we're so willing to like, give ourselves up for each other. Even Bobby was like trying to get in on it. And Dean's like, No, we're not going to be martyrs anymore. This
isn't happening anymore, right? Oh, I totally forgot one of my notes that I wrote down.
One of the many.
Whenever Sam went to summon Ruby, it was reminiscent of John Winchester in the basement of the hospitals summoning Azazel to save Dean, and then we see Sam doing that. I liked that mirror, I guess. Yeah, more reference. I don't know if it was intentional. But whenever we saw when we saw Sam on his knees and the triangle and all of that stuff, I immediately thought of John Winchester
well and doing it secretly not telling his like John dentelles boys, Sam was telling Dean Yeah, for sure. It was it was in touch.
I adored that as well. Yes, I know that callback because Dean did end up bringing you up. You know, Dad did this for me. I did it for you. Like no, we're stopping it here. It's not going to happen anymore. We've got to stop doing this. Yeah,
well, for the lower, we're going to talk about hellhounds. It says, from what I read terrifying tales of hell hounds are ferocious dogs eyes glowing teeth bared. They wreak vengeance on the population around them, and have been the stuff of legend for centuries. It has cemented the place of these mythical beasts in English folklore. But how and why have these accounts of these terrifying marauding Ooh, of their terrifying marauding spreads so far and wide question mark?
That words not used enough?
I agree Marathi when I was reading through those letters. It's a good one.
Yeah. I don't know a lot of words though. I don't I don't my vocabulary. But like as far as actually using the words I know I'm not good about that. It's funny use fancy your words than I do. But I don't write us fuck and shit. Of course. Yes. And
it's funny because like spelling and everything was one of my best things in school. Even as I've gotten older, it's like, I know so many. I know all these words, but then I've thought to myself, if somebody asked me to give a definition of it, I would be a mess. Like, like a give it to you in a sentence. But I don't know that I could give you an actual definition. Yeah, saying,
you know, like, define Murata right now,
right? I don't think I could, but I could give it to you in a sentence and I know what it means. What a failure or education. Okay, now and 1577. According to one particularly poetic account, a snarling beast broke into a church rampage through the Convert congregation and bit the next of two people who promptly dropped dead. Having traumatized the church goers and been gay and Suffolk, the mystical dog known as Black suck.
What?
It's s sh U K. I'm sorry. Sh U C. K. shuk. shuk shuk. What did I say? All right, well, black shuck next cropped up on the country's coast it Blythe borough again it targeted worshippers bursting through the doors of the Holy Trinity Church before killing a man and a boy and causing the steeple to collapse. The beasts left scorch marks on the church door. According to the legend, these claw marks are on the north door of the Holy Trinity Church and supposedly they're still there
to this day. Damn. Stories speak of lonely pets pining for dead masters and packs of hounds led in wild hunts by men on horseback. How hounds were reported to appear at the 17th century witch trials but not all accounts of black shuck. Sure, right. Yep, that's what we said right, Chuck? not suck. That's Chuck. But not all accounts of black shuck depict the beast as a ferocious predator. Hold on, I need to. Thank you. Thank you, Ella. And little ports in
Cambridgeshire. A shadowy canine is said to have turned protector, rescuing a local girl from an attempted rape by a Friar. Oh, according to legend, the dog died in the struggle and its ghost was left to wander through the countryside. Now there are similar stories of lapdog under other names along the east coast of England. Norwich based Mr. Stone who began the interactive mapping project in August to map out where all these stories were
located. It's part of the public archaeology 20 And he started it in 2015. And said living in Norfolk, it's probably the most prevailing piece of kids scary folklore. While the story is largely spread through Of course, word of mouth. The earliest written record of the hellhound is found in the 11th and 12th century Peterborough, Peter borro version of the Anglo
Saxon Chronicle. The chronicler wrote that reliable wit, it says in quotations, reliable witnesses had seen packs of dogs, again in quotes jet with eyes like saucers and horrible led in quotes again, Wild Hunt by men on horseback, traveling through the woods stretching between Peterborough and Stamford, Lorna Richardson, a researcher in public archaeology at the University of Romania in Sweden that's probably said wrong, said folk Laura was often overlooked when assessing the
importance of a landscaper place. There are lots of different takes on this dog and legend, as Nick's map has shown, but it spreads into Europe and
back in time. And so this other article I thought was kind of interesting that a London based archeology group on earth the bones of a gigantic dog from a shallow grave about 20 inches deep in the ruins of least in Abbey and Suffolk, and Archaeologists estimate that the canine stood more than seven feet tall on its hind legs to him is bigger than Jared paddle lackey. It is an weighed about 200 pounds. It was led by dig event, I'm sorry dig ventures.
Researchers believe the canine bones likely date to when the abbey was active, so are likely medieval but they're awaiting confirmation from testing. Due to the size and date of the bones. Many have speculated that these large canine remains could be connected to the legend of black shuck, and legend double dogs guard the entrance of the underworld and the grounds of graveyards. They also hunt lost souls and protect a supernatural treasure. I don't do your thing.
And European folklore seeing a hellhound or hearing it how is seen as an omen of Doom or cause of death. hellhounds show up in many cultures and have many names including the three headed Cerberus and Greek mythology, a NuBus, an Egyptian mythology Garma. And that's probably wrong, and Norse mythology pero Negro and Latin America and
black shuck in England. Most recently hellhounds were used in fiction and how the Hound of the Baskervilles Sherlock write the grim and the Harry Potter series, and in movies like The Omen and Cujo, though musing about the earthly remains of legendary creature cryptid is always fun. They say this giant skeleton recently found at least an Abbe is likely the remains of an Abbott's faithful canine
companion or a hunting dog. At best, the sightings of this huge domesticated dog by superstitious people may have sparked the rumors about black shuck. I'm sorry, I don't know any dog that stands at seven feet. Yeah, like maybe in length if you're trying to make it more believable, but seven feet tall. No.
Look if it's, it's I thought it was saying like if it's on its hind legs, so I think it did mean Oh, you're right.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, still still,
but still insane. Yeah, seven feet. Oh, like it.
I don't want to meet that dog.
Huh?
I love dogs.
That's interesting. Yeah. Well close it out. When Dean and Sam were trying to ditch Bobby and Bobby caught them and had that plastic piece of the car so they love it. Whenever Dean was trying to say, you know, this is us you know, it's we're brothers blah blah, blah. Bobby's hold them. Family don't end in blood. Boy.
That's right. I learned that I loved that.
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