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Family Remains (4x11)

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Berly and LA recap the season four Supernatural episode, Family Remains.  Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures. Now, let's get tipsy!  CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞

Summary: In the "Denim Wrapped Nightmares" podcast, hosts Berly and LA discuss the Supernatural episode "Family Remains" (S4E11). They recap the plot where Sam and Dean investigate a haunted house in Nebraska, revealing a vengeful spirit of Rebecca Gibson, who was imprisoned and abused by her father. The episode delves into dark themes of abuse and survival, with Sam and Dean saving the Gibson family while confronting their own demons. They also reference real-life cases of people living in hidden spaces, such as the Fritzl case and a man in a closet. The hosts express mixed feelings about the episode, praising the direction and character development while acknowledging its disturbing elements.

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Berly

Welcome to denim wrapped nightmares tipsy exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series episode by episode.

LA

over drinks, we'll discuss the lore of gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.

Berly

I'm burly, and I'm a new fan of the series.

LA

I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy.

Berly

Hello, la

LA

Hello Burly.

Berly

We're halfway through season four, which means our it's our mid season episode. So we have a few housekeeping items. We've received some more reviews on Apple podcasts.

LA

So one from right softly says, Burley and La are delightful hosts of this fun filled, thirsty rewatch podcast. They're recaps are hilarious and make me laugh out loud every time and their admiration of Richard Speight Jr. is just a delight. Oh, can't wait to experience the rest of supernatural with both of them. leading us through the rewatch.

Berly

You know, who's a delight. Richard Speight, Jr.

LA

Another one from three essay, photography, Theresa. Oh, okay. These two gals are hilarious listening to their podcast and then thirsting over the cast makes me smile on my drive to work every time I listen. They seem so genuine in their review and comments. This one is titled Love this podcast from campy one. And they say La Amberley are some of the funniest people. They bring creativity and joy to each episode. I look forward to a new episode each week. I'm excited

for the upcoming ones. Yay. And then we have one titled wonderful podcast by frost back lumberjack. And I say found the podcast couple weeks ago. Listen to it. I enjoyed it very much. Started binging episode one the lady the the young ladies are funny. The chemistry is wonderful. They make me laugh. I even watch after Sam and Dean go through so much suffering.

Berly

He called us young. Very nice. Thank you frost back sweet.

LA

All right, and then we have unhinged with lots of laughter listen with headphones. And this is Michelle geeky moose. Sam Winchester. Looking for a newbie discovering supernatural for the first time and want to have the time of your life for 40 to 50 minutes. Listen to denim rafts.

Berly

Did you just blank on the name of our own podcast? Oh,

LA

okay, let me do that. If you're looking for a newbie discovering Nope. Looking for a newbie discovering supernatural for the first time, and want to have the time of your life for 40 to 50 minutes. Listen to Den unwrapped nightmares. You won't regret it. And I not only say it because Burley has become one of my friends. I really enjoy laughing aloud. The lore the gore and what they adore, dive in. Remember to use headphones, though, because of some

commentary. If you aren't listening, you're missing out.

Berly

Yeah, Michelle is the one who let us know that surges last name meant the sweetness.

LA

Oh, yeah, it's such she's from Luxembourg. Yeah. And then one more from Dean's math teacher. I love these gals having watched supernatural many times over. It's always exciting to watch or listen to newcomers experience it for the first time. Burley and La are hilarious and hold nothing back maybe due to the alcohol. They are just as hilarious as the rest of us. This podcast is a great listen if you want to see supernatural in a new light and need a laugh while doing so. Those were

Berly

sweet. Thank you so much listeners. We appreciate it. If you haven't already, please remember to subscribe to the podcast on your platform of choice. And if it gives you the ability to do so please rate and review us as well. And if you don't follow us on social media, please find us on Instagram tick tock. We're also on Twitter and Facebook. But follow us interact with our posts and of course, last but not least, Please share the show with your friends.

LA

Okay, on last week's episode, Heaven and Hell. Anna remembers her past and Sam and Dean finally understand why cast yell and Uriel want her dead. However they disagree with the angels orders and try to help Anna restore an important part of her past so she can be saved. Meanwhile, Alistair and his demons continue to close in on Anna and the brothers

Berly

In today's episode, it's not one of my favorites. That's going to be for sure. Well, yeah, to the end of the season. This will be anybody's favorite rolly. Family remains. It's the 11th episode of season four. And it originally aired on January 15 2009. We start out with Sam waking up in the backseat of the Impala. And he sees Dean sitting in the front going through newspapers. Ask some What are you doing? Dean's? Like, what does it look like I'm doing and he's like, looks like you're

looking for a case. Turns out they've been running ragged for the last month doing cases back to back to back to back. Sam is insisting that they need to take a break. They need to rest they need to recharge. But Dean is like, No, we need to go check out this other case sounds like I know what you're running from, or are we going to pretend that didn't happen? Referencing Dean's confession about hell.

And Dean just pushes nope, let's go check out this case in Nebraska, where Bill Gibson was found murdered in a room that was locked from the inside. Now I did skip ahead here. This was the opening scene where we saw Bill Gibson sitting in his recliner. He goes to leave his bedroom and he can't leave because it's locked. And then we see from a mysterious something's angle, like a door

opening. I'm guessing it was a closet or something looking at Bill and him turn around and being like you is you like what do you want something? Something like that. And we got our eight teeth blood splooge of the supernatural series. As we saw blood squirt all over a home sweet home sign while Bill Gibson screamed in horror at whatever was attacking him jumping back to where I left off. Salem and Dean. You know,

they go to Nebraska. So they arrive at the family home and it's an adorable little house from the outside big house. I'd love that wraparound porch. Oh, yeah. I love that. Super cute.

LA

The inside needs some work.

Berly

Yeah, there were no appliances in the kitchen, which maybe that's common in some places. Yeah, I know. There's, yeah, there's some country where it's like you take your kitchen with you when you move out. I can't remember what it is if that's more common. So they're checking out this house. They're looking around. The fact that bill was in a locked room with no sign of forced entry has already had them suspecting it's

a vengeful spirit. They're going through trying to use the EMF detector but there's power lines everywhere. So that's not going to help them out. As they're checking out the house. They see car and a huge ass moving truck coming down the road and pulling into the driveway of this house. And they're like, oh, fuck, Dean was like, I thought you said this wasn't sold seems like, clearly I was wrong. My fucking bad man. We cut to outside. This family's getting out of their

car. They're talking about their fresh start that everything's gonna be okay now. So it's like what is happening with this family? There's some sort of drama going on here. It's a husband, a wife, their daughter and son and then uncle Ted, as Sam and Dean come walking out of the house, the daughter goes, who are they? At La was like, that's exactly what I would be asked to. Do. You come with the

house. Right? Good luck nearby. What's up, Sam and Dean say that their code enforcement and there's obsessiveness in the walls in the house and the family cannot stay there that they need to go stay at a local motel. And at first, the family pushes back but they do finally cave and the dad is like, Okay, we're gonna go stay at the hotel for one night. That's it. Sam and Dean continue their investigation. They aren't really finding anything in the

house. So they go talk to the housekeeper who found the body and she tells them that Bill Gibson had a wife who had died in childbirth. And they had had a daughter, but she hung herself in the attic. I think they said it was was 20 years ago, I think so. The boys press a little further and she says that both the wife and the daughter were cremated. She also had pictures of his family for some reason. Yeah, I didn't understand that. That was weird. That was never

explained. She was like, I think I have some pictures and the pictures she pulled forward. Like they looked like school pictures, almost like your yearbook photos or something. Oh, well, we'll move forward.

LA

They asked what she saw when she found him and she said that, you know, Blood was everywhere. And then there, they were like, Well, what about Mr. Gibson? She was like, he was everywhere. Like,

Berly

gross pieces. Yeah, so it's gonna be kind of like in yellow fever that if if vengeful, isn't a vengeful spirit spoiler, but if it were a vengeful spirit and ended up It was Mr. Gibson. How would you guys fix that? Right burning the house down? I mean, goodness, he apparently got to where the fuck up. In the meantime, the family decided to stay in the house because it turns out that Uncle Ted actually builds houses. He's

in construction. So he went through and checked out the house after Sam and Dean left, and was like, there's no obsessiveness in there. I don't know who those guys were. They don't work with code enforcement. I've never seen hot ask guys like that.

LA

That's quite what he said.

Berly

They were too pretty. They were just too pretty. But uncle Ted called bullshit on Sam and D and after they had left so the family decided if it were going to stay, and they started moving in. Obviously, they aren't completely settled. Things aren't completely unpacked, but they get settled enough to go to bed. And we see the son his name's Danny in his bedroom, listening to music just chilling out. And his closet door opens and he's like peeking around being like, what's that?

Who are you? Which Danny, you are way too trusting my dude. Oh, yeah. You were being way too friendly. To the stranger in your closet. Yeah. She rolls a ball out to him. And Danny picks it up and rolls it back. And then they play catch like just Danny. Stranger danger. Come on, honey. She also sneaks into the daughter's bedroom. Her name's Kate. So the daughter is laying in bed sleeping and we hear panting. And so the daughter puts her hand out to the side and is like calling for their

dog. Her hand gets licked. And she's like, Oh, gross. Why'd you do that? And then her door squeaks and she looks over and the dog is just now poking its head in the bedroom to see what's going on. Oh, so the daughter flips her shit. In the meantime, the parents and the uncle downstairs have stumbled upon a wall where somebody has scratched and red crayon in giant ass letters taking up the whole wall. The word go, just a simple big ass G Oh, they've called Danny downstairs and are

asking him why he did that. He's insisting he did and that it's the girl who lives in the walls that she told him he could stay. But she doesn't like adults, so everybody else has to leave. When they don't believe him. He gets upset. Danny gets upset. And as he's on his way upstairs. He says if Andy were here, Andy would believe me and takes off. And then the daughter comes running downstairs screaming that there's a ghost in the house because something was just licking her hand and it wasn't

the freakin dog. Sam and Dean had arrived back at the house and saw that the family was there. They pulled up and parked outside anyways. And they happen to hear Kate screaming from outside. So they come rushing in the house to see what's going on. And the family's like who the fuck are you? And they just lay it on the line. They're like your house is hot.

LA

Right there. Like, I also like that the dad opens the door and like they just rush in and he just says like, okay, come on. And who are you strangers? That lied to me earlier today?

Berly

The handsome liars are back. What do you guys want? Sam and Dean rush them out of the house. They're like the house is haunted. That ghost is going to kill you. We gotta get you out. And they just trust them and just come running out of the house with Sam and D and the whole family. But it turns out that in the short time that Sam and Dean were inside convincing the family that something's fucked up, and they need to get out. Someone went and slashed all their tires, so they can't

go anywhere. Also, they decided to kill the family dog. Real nice.

LA

And what did they put it on the side of the movie man in the blood?

Berly

It said too late. Yeah, they were running around the house trying to find the dog and then came across the moving van. And it just said too late in blood. Which how quick are these people that they were able to do this so fast in such a short period of time? Yeah, they emptied the impalas trunk. They have all of Sam and Dean's weapons. That's a lot. They slashed the tires. They murdered the dog. And they did graffiti with the dog's blood. Within like five minutes, yeah, they're

busy. But we did find out by the end of the episode, there were two of them. Yeah, so maybe still a bit of a stretch. Yeah. They run back inside to regroup. And Sam and Dean put them in a big salt circle and are telling them it's a ghost. The ghost can't cross this line. They aren't quite believing them just yet. Especially uncle Ted uncle Ted's like calling bullshit on a lot of their stuff until this girl comes out of the closet and she's pale and she's dirty. And she looks in human.

LA

Yeah, like she got glazed over like, I don't know, weird eyes,

Berly

like almost cataracts looking. I She's walking toward them. And everybody gets to the assault circle real quick. Once this happens, suddenly everyone's a believer, Dean is standing in front of them protecting them and she keeps coming toward them. And she pulls a knife out of her sleeve slowly, and just steps over the assault line, no problem. And then Dean's like, oh, fuck, not

a ghost, not a ghost. Sam had been looking around the house had gone upstairs to the attic, because that's where the daughter had taken her own life. So he was looking for more stuff, looking for more clues. While all of this was going down, the family runs outside while Dean is fighting with this girl. Sam reappears in the living room shines his flashlight on them as like, hey, and the girl like looks at the light hisses and like runs back into the closet to get away from

the flashlight. When Sam was looking around. He mentions that all he happened to find was Rebecca Gibson's diary that was up in the attic. That's the daughter, right? Yes, that's the dead daughter. So again, the family had run outside whenever the ghosts turned out to not be a ghost. And once they're outside and regrouping everybody's getting together, that's when they figure out Danny, the little boy is

missing. They all go to a shed that's near the house, Susan and Kate So the mom and the daughter are going to hide out there. Ted and Dean decide to go check out the house inside the walls, because that's where the girls seemed to have come from. Well, Brian and Sam. So the dad and Sam are checking out the rest of the grounds around the house. Dean and Ted find like a hidden wall space in the closet that she had come in and out of. And so they follow her into there,

which not great guys. There wasn't a good line of sight in there. You didn't have 360 vision like there was no way they could turn left and right or anything I was gonna say they barely fit in there themselves exactly. As they're squeezing through this tiny wall space. They come across a hole in the floor that's perfectly Dean sized. So he's able to go down there. And Ted, he didn't want to follow Dean. He was like,

You're not going down there. You and Dean's like I mean, yeah, unless you want to do it like I'm going. So Ted stayed on the first floor and Dean goes down to like the basement level, I guess. And as soon as Dean gets down there you can see there's animal carcasses around and he's obviously letting you know it doesn't smell too good down there times the dog. He says something about having dog for dinner or something. While TED is up there waiting for him. The girl finds him and stabs a knife

right through his throat. Which Ruby actually did this in the last episode too. She stabbed someone right through the throat. Dean tries to get back there in time to save Ted, but he doesn't get there in time.

LA

Ted's like head just falls perfectly through the hole for Dean to see what happened.

Berly

And Dean was able to stay quiet. So the flashlight Yeah, he got really sneaky really quickly so that the girl didn't know he was down there. And here's the only thing that kind of bothered me is that when y'all realize it wasn't a ghost. There are four adults sound five, five adults for grown ass men. Why didn't y'all all just tackle her ass to the ground as soon as you realized it wasn't a ghost, right? Why is it you were in the assault circle, and not a ghost? And the reaction was oh,

runaway. Like, I would have been like it's a person take her house down and up. Granted, they were saying shooter shooter, you know, but she was swinging the knife like crazy. I mean, it was it was dangerous, but like, there were a lot of you. I just feel like y'all could have taken her down.

LA

I agree. That's what fear does to you, I guess. True.

Berly

True. You're already scared thinking it's a fucking ghost.

LA

Okay. And then she steps over the line. You're like, oh, yeah, I

Berly

just I just feel like you and I would have been like, oh, it's not a go. Because bitch hours take her down. Yeah. So that's a criticism I have about this. But yeah, you're right. Fear. Fear does do weird things. So we'll let it slide. We'll let it slide. Dean goes to the shed, and they asked, you know, where's Ted? And he tells them he's outside and they're like, why is he not in here? And he told them, like, because I had to carry him. So they kind of figure out, Ted is dead, or Ted.

Yeah, it was sad. Brian and Sam are in the shed with the mom and the daughter at this point. And Sam has been reading Rebecca's diary. Brian. The dad is talking to the mom talking more about how we're going to be okay. We're going to survive this. We're going to find Danny. He's reminding the daughter and the mom that remember what Danny said that the girl on the wall told him he could stay like I believe he's still alive. I don't think that she killed him. I think that she wants him to

stay here. So Sam and Dean go back inside. And Sam reveals what he's read in the diary. And it turns out that Mr. Gibson was a freaking monster, who trigger warning, just FYI skip ahead if you need to rate his daughter and got her pregnant, and then hid the child for all eternity because he didn't want anybody to see. And the diary talked a lot about how she was so ashamed. She was ashamed of being pregnant, she was scared all these other things. So that's why she took her life.

And it turns out that this not ghost is actually her kids that haven't seen the light of day, their entire lives, have just been fed scraps through a Dumb Waiter, basically tortured and abused the entirety of their lives, like not knowing anything other than

LA

that, like utter neglect.

Berly

I would have rather have them had it be a ghost. Oh, yeah. Once they figure this out, they realize they had found a dumbwaiter that had been sealed over when the house went on the market, they realize, okay, this is probably how he was feeding them is through the dumbwaiter if he kept them locked away and didn't want them out of the

house. The other thing that sad that I realized is like the hole in the walls, like all the little things, that means that they had to figure out how they chiseled those holes and did all those things to get out of the basement. It's just awful. And the reason it's so sad is because we know there's people out there who are like this. It's just so sad. They rip off

the patch on the wall. And Dean goes down the dumbwaiter the dad and Sam are in there helping him they get a rope together based off of like sheets and curtains and things like that. Dane goes down there, he was insistent that he had to be the one to go save Danny. He gets down there and Danny is saying, hurry before he comes back. He He didn't just like what do you mean he and the boy says her brother. And then this guy jumps

out of nowhere. In the meantime, the girl who was seen earlier is trying to attack the mom and the daughter out of the shed trying to kill them on alive them. Dean wrestles with the brother, his all their weapons from the Impala are down here. So he manages to get one of his guns and shoot the brother. And save the little boy. The husband Brian goes out to check on the wife and the daughter in the shed and ends up killing the girl. So she gets on alive as well.

LA

And alive. What does that I guess

Berly

it's on a trigger word and it doesn't like it's on social media a lot that people will say analyzed instead of murdered or killed. Never heard that. I've never said it. And I don't know why I'm doing it on this episode.

LA

I wasn't sure if that's what you said. I was about to stop you be like, is that what she said? But then he said it again. I was like, oh, okay, that is what she said.

Berly

I've never done that before. I don't know why I'm doing that right now.

LA

I've just never seen it. I didn't know anything about it. Yeah, I have I thought maybe you just made it. No, it was like your new thing to say? No, apparently

Berly

it is.

LA

Okay, sorry. I just didn't know.

Berly

So these poor kids who are like 1920, something years old, had been tortured their whole lives. And as Sam said, you know, just because they've been tortured, doesn't excuse them, murdering a bunch of people.

LA

Yeah, I mean, they don't know any better, though. There was just survival.

Berly

And he made some comment Sam did to Dean about like, I'm sure their lives were hell. And Dean was like, You don't know anything about hell. So Dean was really relating with these people and the fact that they've been tortured and what they become, and we end up finding out a little bit later why he was relating to them so much.

LA

Well, no, he also was like, so determined to like that he was the one that was going to save the little boy, like he promised the dad and he was just so serious. And like, like, it was hard to be him. Like he needed it to be him to be the one to save him.

Berly

Yep, so we find out through some conversations here and there, that the family had actually already lost a child about a year ago, their eldest died in a car accident, and they moved here for a fresh start hoping to, you know, make things work that everybody was going to be happy they were going to be able to move on. Dad was like, you know, because what could possibly go wrong in the country? Yeah. So Sam and Dean save the day, but it's still just really depressing and sad.

LA

You saved the family, but those poor kids yeah,

Berly

this was this was rent. It reminded me of the vendors. But it was so much worse than the vendor. Yeah, yeah. So to end the episode, we have a Bromont. They pull over on the side of the road. Dean is talking more about hell, and he confesses to Sam that not only did he give in and agree to start torturing souls in hell But he liked it. He enjoyed torturing the souls and how

LA

did it for the pleasure? I think he said, yikes, He's not

Berly

crying like he's obviously upset and braiding himself. But it's not like the bromance we got at the end of last episode where he was crying. There were no tears.

LA

Yeah, he does mention he says like, no matter how many lives he saves, like, nothing's gonna change that. That, that he did that.

Berly

And that was pretty much the end of the episode. This was written by Jeremy Carver and directed by the fabulous Phil SIG raesha. There wasn't a lot of gore that you saw outright like we've got the blood splooge at the very beginning the intro of the episode we saw the dogs blood on the on the wall. It was more of the implied Gore that was disturbing in this all the carcasses. Oh, wait, no, we did get that gross scene where she held up the rat in front of Danny and then bit into it. It

was in like night vision. So it wasn't too bad. But it still moved me out big time. Yeah, I didn't care for that one bit. And it's like we got the message that the animals did you really need to show it. Phil, come on. I can't be mad at Phil's degreaser, though, because he gave us the kitchen scene.

LA

Oh, yeah. Okay.

Berly

We can't be mad at Phil. Well loved it. So yeah, not too gory. But plenty of other stuff in this episode. That was just gross. Yeah. Was there anything you adored about this episode?

LA

I mean, I kind of adored it, but also felt a little sad for Dean that he was just so determined that to save the day to be the one to save the day and save Danny and all that. But,

Berly

like desperate for redemption, but yeah, also believing it's impossible to achieve.

LA

I don't know that that's really a thing to adore. I

Berly

was gonna I just I didn't like this episode. I like I appreciate that yet. Again. They're reminding us there are human monsters out there. I can appreciate that.

LA

I did like Uncle Ted. There was some good characters and a couple funny things. What we liked it

Berly

was people are sassy. And he was Uncle Ted was a little sassy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there were things I liked about it. I can't say. I don't like that. Yeah, well,

LA

yeah. I mean, it's hard to pick things out that you're gonna like from it.

Berly

Yeah. The direction was good. I will say that. Yeah. The What am I thinking like the spaces that he had to figure out camera angles in and make it believable that they were actually in the walls? And that was done really? Well. I can say that. I can say that. Everything that was done in the night vision I didn't think was necessary. Yeah, true. That could have been cut. I'm rambling. Let's move on to lore.

LA

Okay, well, Jean does refer to a situation in the this episode where he says it's like a story ripped from the Austrian headline. And it references the Fritzl case where Joseph futsal had in prison, his daughter and fathered I think about seven children with her. So if you want to know more about that, it's

Berly

on a link on what are our Tumblr blog? We'll have the link on there. Okay.

LA

Look into that if you want it to be very disturbing story.

Berly

Yeah, we've had enough disturbing for one day. Well, I know we're about to get some more disturbing.

LA

I mean, they're they're not as it's not as disturbing but not as bad as the Fritzl case. I will say that. So these are some other stories of people finding people living in hidden away in their homes. Oh, yeah. So there's a South Carolina woman, known as Tracy discovered that her ex, who was only a few weeks out of jail and living, he was living in her attic in 2012. She had broken up with a guy 12 years before he showed up in her house. While he was in prison. He wrote to her constantly.

After hearing strange sounds, Tracy saw insulation and even fingernails fall from the ceilings. And so her her nephew went to investigate and he found a man sleeping in the heating unit and Tracy's attic. He had filled fast food cups with his waist, oh my God, and positioned himself near a vent in the ceiling of the master bedroom so he could watch her.

Berly

Oh,

LA

yeah. So based on his release from prison, police estimate that he was living up there for like a little under two weeks.

Berly

I was going to ask please tell me that he wasn't living up there for like 10 years. Oh, no,

LA

thank god. Oh my god. Oh,

Berly

she would have definitely been able to smell something I noticed. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh,

LA

Jr. at University of North Carolina in Greensboro realized that pieces of her wardrobe mysteriously were vanishing sheen her roommates kind of jokingly blamed it on a ghost. She found handprints left on the bathroom wall. And on February 2 1919 2019, she discovered a man living in her closet and wearing her clothes. She said, I just hear rattling in my closet. It sounded like a raccoon in my closet. I'm like, who's there? And somebody answers. He's like,

Oh, my name is Drew. I opened the door and he's in there wearing all of my clothes, my socks, my shoes, and he had a book bag full of my clothes. Police identified the man as 30 year old Andrew Swofford. Maddie talk to Swafford as she waited for the for her boyfriend and authorities to arrive. And he continued to try on her clothes and commented on how she was really pretty. He was arrested and put under $26,000 Bond and he faced up to fit 14 felony charges. Oh my goodness.

Berly

Where did he come from?

LA

I don't know. I guess he just liked your style. This one is a Japanese man named foo Coco. No. Fukuoka Japanese resident began to suspect that he was repeatedly robbed in May of 2008 when his food began disappearing from his home, so he set up security cameras and discovered that a strange woman was living in his cupboard and stealing his food. It was later revealed that she had been living there undetected for over a year. In the cupboard. I was about to say like, what is this

cupboard? Doors, extra doors like How was she hiding in there without you seeing? I don't know. A man named Davis Wallman had no idea what he'd find when he began investigating a series of strange noises upstairs in his greenlink Washington home in July of 2016. When he finally found the source of the noise in his upstairs office, he tried to open the door. The room was completely locked, so he had to knock on his door in his own house. And finally a strange woman with dark hair answered.

And he was so startled he didn't know what to do. He asked the woman how she got into the green light property. And she claimed that a man named Jimmy gave her permission to move into the dwelling. Wallman called the local police to handle the situation. But the strange house guests escaped before authorities could have questioned her about it. I thought this was funny. It's called they called it the

reverse Santa. Oh, in 2008 On the day after Christmas, uh, Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, and I'm probably saying that wrong. Pennsylvania woman discovered a man living in her attic periodically helping himself to her family's food, clothes and possessions. She stated when he came down from the attic, he was wearing my daughter's pants, my sweatshirt and sneakers. He also helped himself to a computer and an iPod. And he kept a list of everything. He took titling it

as his Christmas list. So they say he's like, basically a reverse Santa. He got the sneaking into the house bid, right, but took rather than gave to the family at Christmas time. Oh, my goodness. So there's a bunch more, and I know you'll post the link. So. But there's, there's a bunch on here. It's quite interesting, interesting and kind of scary that it happens. Often.

Berly

I saw a video where it showed, I think that people's food kept disappearing. And they thought maybe one of them was sleepwalking and eating in the night like something, something like that. And so they set up a camera. And what they ended up catching on the footage was a woman who had been living like in their ceiling. So she like came out of their ceiling onto their thing went over peed in their kitchen sink.

LA

Oh, yeah. I think there was one on here. The word guy was peeing in their kitchen sink. Yeah,

Berly

helped herself to their food, and then went back up in the ceiling. Like, can you imagine thinking that you're just going to catch like a funny video of your husband getting up in the middle of the night and binge eating a little bit out of the fridge and that you wake up the next morning and that's what you call it and terrifying. A little to close it out on this gym. It's disturbing. Jim, just reminding us that there are real monsters out there. I've got a quote from Dean, and he's

talking to Sam. He says, I'm telling you, man, humans, chairs. Thank you for listening to denim wrapped nightmares.

LA

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Berly

This was fun.

LA

Sure, and only this bitch

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