Welcome to denim wrapped nightmares tipsy exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series episode by episode.
over drinks, we'll discuss the lore of gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
I'm burly, and I'm a new fan of the series.
I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now, let's get tipsy.
Hello, la. Hello Burley. It's our season finale. I know before we get into it, we did get one more review on Apple podcasts.
Just one
just one. We read most of them at our midseason premiere. That's right. So this review is from Trinity Esparza. They said love these ladies and gave us five stars. Additionally, they said, I need the strike to be over so we can get past episode 410 With these ladies who legit keep me laughing all day at work. I look forward to more episodes. Oh, we're happy to be back.
I still feel like though, since we came back, I still haven't. I don't know that I ever had a real great group. Can't get back into the groove.
I think you just need to drink more.
Oh, that's always the answer. Well, before we get into it, the recaps for the whole season right?
Just special features. today. I'm responsible for recapping the whole season at our season premiere.
Oh, damn. Okay. Yeah. Good luck with that. Okay, before we get into special features, I'll talk about the finale. The Apocalypse is coming. Sam and Dean were prepared to fight in very different ways. Sam joined Ruby on a final run to kill Lilith. And while Castile and Zechariah. Tell Dean it's time for him to play his part in stopping Lucifer.
I was about to say that that sentence was being very generous saying that they were prepared to fight. Yeah, like Sam had a plan. Ryan was prepared. I'm not saying I agreed with this plan. And obviously we saw the finale ended. But it was a plan. What Steve's plan
I still weighing in a prayers. Literally, all right.
Well, today we are looking at the special features to season four, which was titled The mythologies of supernatural from heaven to hell. And the little IMDb synopsis says from angels to demons, the mythologies of supernatural explores the religious roots and the ancient folklore of other worldly entities that brothers Sam and Dean Winchester fight on the hit television show Supernatural, and that have inhabited the shadows of human imagination across countless
cultures and centuries. It was essentially Eric crypkey writers Jeremy Carver's, Sarah Campbell, Ben Edlund, and then they had experts there was a paranormal investigator.
A lot of different religious experts, yeah, religions.
So a bunch of different experts on here are talking about a lot of things. And it was interesting. There was a lot of repetitiveness from the very professional research, the LA and I have already done through this season. True. So that kind of made me I don't know, may feel a little proud. Like, I mean, they're saying a lot of the same stuff that we've already said, well done. They didn't talk so much about the semen with Lilith, they kind of glaze past that part, get it
glaze. Over. But there were some interesting tidbits that we wrote down here and there.
I would say it's like worth a watch. Just yeah, definitely. It was kind of like a lesson. Oh, lessons.
It felt like a documentary. Yeah, History Channel style. And I loved the graphics they had from the menu because the menu was split into three sections, Paradise purgatory, and Inferno. And they had all this art. There was so much art displayed throughout. And so if you haven't seen it, it's worth of you. Like Elijah said,
I'm sure you'll recognize some of them. At least I know I did those just from school of going to museums and whatnot. But yeah,
so as far as paradise para DISA Harim para de So, yes, that's what it said. I was like is that Spanish is Italian I don't know. But parody. So in that little section note that I wrote down was that in supernatural lore, the garrison that Uriel and Cassiel refer to are the angels assigned to like overseeing Earth.
I liked when they said that Uriel was basically God's hitman. Yeah, that.
Yeah, they said that's part of why they picked him is because he he's the one who's known for destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, which I think yeah talked about that in your lore. And I also liked that when they were talking about angels that they were saying even angels with names like they said Gabriel a lot. They said they have inconsistent personalities.
Yes. Well, I loved at the beginning how they were talking about how, you know, we're not so great on Earth and organized and they were like, it's kind of funny that people think that like that would be even more organized and better off than we are down here. You are you gets a shit show up there too. Yeah.
Yeah, I loved that. And they were saying, you know, that angels. Their job is to obey. And their job is to be on assignment. You know, they might have a violent predisposition and stern, punishing in order to hold order cosmically, like, they aren't just worried about holding order on Earth. Their scope is much larger, they're looking at like a cosmic level here. And to your point, it's a
shitshow. Everywhere. Yeah. There's a point where Eric crypkey was talking about, you know how there's no value in choosing good if it's not actually a choice. Yeah. There also has to be the opposite choice, which would be evil. And it reminded me of the movie legend, and the speech that Tim Curry's devil gives whenever they're about to defeat him where he's saying, like, without dark, there can't be light. What is that monologue? There's
always like a duality. Like, I think they say there's a cost for everything. And what didn't What was this thing that he crypkey said that? It was the dark duplicity duplicitous. I can't say it to you wrote it down to you.
My handwriting is so bad, as supernatural something the world that it is, if there is a miracle, there is a darker duplicity, it duplicitous purpose to it. Yeah, talking about angels, working miracles, why they might want to do that.
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot like they were talking about the whole, ageless, unseen war good and evil, and it's so like, present in this season. And then I just like, that's just everybody's everyday struggle, inner struggle. Like, I think we were talking about morality earlier. Like, yeah, good and bad, dark and light.
And it was interesting to hear how much thought they put into a lot of the stuff like they put in so much thought and work to it. And then in Purgatory, like Reapers, they talked mainly about Reapers during purgatory. And where where your soul goes, yeah,
and gray unhappy places. Yeah. And I they didn't they say like Koran carry on? Is who the Reaper was based off of who was in the boat that would take the souls
guy who rose the boat on the river Styx? Yes.
Yeah. That's who the Reapers base based on I guess,
yeah, Purgatory, just had the one section parody. So had three. And the inferno had three as well. Yeah. But purgatory just had the one. Yeah, it was kind of brief. I felt like it talked about a lot about stuff that didn't really come up this season.
True. Again, the artwork though, beautiful in Purgatory. I mean, it's just throughout.
Throughout the special features. The artwork was really pretty Yeah.
But I mean, man, like, watch those, just those images of purgatory? Like, it's really showed you something.
Uh huh. And I thought it was interesting when some of the experts were talking about how some theologists believe that we're in purgatory now. Yeah, I don't think I had ever heard that. And I was like, Oh, yeah. And then the other experts saying that purgatory was actually invented by the church. It's not mentioned in the Scripture anywhere. But they noticed there was a theological gap. And so they just kind of
made it up. And that they pulled from Greek mythology, other pagan mythologies to create it was an interesting little tidbit. And then Inferno, they talked more about the monsters. Yes. And that's where it was repetitive, really repetitive of lore that we had already covered. It was a little repetitive in heaven with Uriel. It was interesting when they were talking about in heaven, I did forget to bring this up. That how they were saying that Anna's character was kind of
based on Lucifer. Yes, yeah. Oh, I think I even wrote that down, giving us a relatable character, based on Lucifer, that she made the choice to fall. It wasn't you know, that she was envious, not hateful and being envious, but she was envious of people. And she wanted to experience the things that we were and so that that's why she fell, and they talked a little bit more about Lucifer and why he fell, why he made the choice to fall and
that's it. simply making the choice a choice. They follow. Yeah,
basically they call it the price of Free Will was that? Yes, yes. Yeah. And then yeah, Inferno, that's the one where I was just like, this is really repetitive. Everything we've already covered. We did a good job. They talked about the siren. They talked about Lilith. And what was the third one?
Well, the sweet song Yeah, with the sirens sweet song and death and then the destroyer of children was a little a little rule number three. Yeah, the price of free will. This Oh, they the dead price of Free Will was an inferno. I just said the sweet song of the death. Oh, sweet song of death.
I thought the price of freewill was in heaven. It was an inferno. Yeah. Okay. So they talked about Anna in that one. Yeah. Not in heaven. Yes. Correct. Funny that they talked about Anna in hell, because she committed the ultimate sin by choosing freewill. And they talked about Uriel and heaven. And he was the one actually going around killing right. He's got hitman. Yeah. That is interesting. And he was killing angels. Because they didn't want
to get down with Lucifer. He had decided that was the right path. After all, I got a little backwards. Right. The menu I was kind of stuck. Whenever I was poking at the buttons. And all of a sudden, we noticed that it didn't go from one of the titles in the menu. It popped over to this weird open coffin. A red one. Yeah, we were just like,
what is that? So I hit play. And it ended up showing all these videos of the ghost spacers that looked like it was the videos from it's a terrible life when Dean and Sam don't know who they are. And they're trying to research what to do about the ghost and it was their How to videos that go spacers How to videos like the one
was actually the one that was in the episode. It might have been? I think so. Yeah.
And so we went back to the other two sections. There wasn't one in para DISA right. But there were two. Other three. Were there three. There might have been three in Purgatory. It was.
It was a G.
It was a total shit show. It was G ghost martial arts. I have no idea what the purpose of it was. Yeah.
I mean, Harry was just had a sheet over him. Yeah. And then Ed
just tried to beat him up. And I was just like, I don't understand the purpose of this. Like, they know that. If he was like, showing how you choke out a ghost, um, like, they've dealt with ghosts at this point. They know that wouldn't work. So I feel like Ed just told Harry to do this, because he just wanted to beat Harry up for some reason.
I was gonna say I was like, Maybe this was like, the early stages of them being go. spacers. But then he mentioned Corbett. Yeah, so I was like, okay,
no. So, it was,
it was cute, though. I love to see them every time that you got
very, because we were like, What is this? And when I hit play, and it went, go spacers LA was just like, Oh, she got so happy.
And they're so cute and made me smile. But I I was so excited. But then it was like a little disappointed because I was like, I could I could have done with some better. Yeah, content.
I just felt like outtakes like deleted scenes or something not like, like good funny ones. Yeah, it was it was a little silly. Yeah. I understand why those were
hidden. Hey, good to see him again.
And then we watched the gag reel, which was cute. And I was shocked. Personally, I was shocked to still see blue steel faces in the gag reel.
I was gonna say I feel like we watched so many previously, like on YouTube and whatnot that I think some of those we could already see. Yeah, so it's like he I mean, what season does he stop that?
Does he ever Yeah, stop that. There were a bunch of parts.
Oh my god. Yeah. I like to toward the end that they showed you a bunch of pictures of the crew. That was cute. I love that.
Yeah, I mean, those are my thoughts on the on the special feature if you have if you have the blu ray or the DVD worth watching for sure. Yes, I wouldn't say it's worth buying just to see the special feature though. No, I'm sure you could probably find it online. Yeah, there were a ton of deleted scenes and we watched maybe half of them but the ones we watched like clearly was like okay, we
see why that was deleted. So we skipped the rest and just went to the heaven and hell feature at a couple of things have happened since we've been recording that we missed listeners let us know we missed some things and who knows there might be more at the time of our recording. Our latest released episode is on the head of a pen. Okay, so they're schooling us there's a chance we're gonna get
more information. So do you remember in on the head of a pen, after Sam sucked off Ruby at shows him just like aggressively driving, and we were both like so cut or you were in your description you told us how okay cuts to Sam driving aggressively steering so I guess that scene was just to let us know that he's done with Ruby and enroute Yeah. What we got what he needed. What we missed, was that if you watched his eyes, his pupils dilated all the way to where his Iris was
black. Hmm, I wouldn't wash it. I wouldn't but not like like full No, there was still white it just dilated all the way to where the Iris was black. It didn't go full black until the season finale.
That would have happened, wouldn't
it? So we missed that. That was the purpose of that. I see. Yeah, so we It wasn't aggressive steering time it was Ooh, shit, Sandy's eyes are starting to go black time. Another thing that was pointed out in it's a terrible life, is that at the beginning, we were really focused on this suspenders. And what we missed is that that blue striped shirt with the white collar, those shirts that are like patterned are colored with a white collar. They're called a Winchester shirt.
Oh, are they really? Yes. Oh my god. I was watching something the other night and somebody said something about Winchester. And I was with my mom. And she's like, Winchester, that's a that's a cool name isn't and I was like, I had to look at her her second language. I was like, is she just joking with me? Like, what's she doing? She was dead serious. Like she'd never heard it before.
Really? Okay, something else that we've left off. I didn't bring it up. But in When the Levee Breaks when Sam is having his hallucinations. One of his hallucinations is him looking in the mirror? And seeing like his veins go dark
blue. Yes. Yeah.
Wasn't that? What happened to people who got the Croatoan virus? Way back in season two? Didn't their veins go dark? They got aggressive and their veins went dark?
I think so. So why would that
have come back?
Oh, just paranoia. It was
the demon virus. So maybe that's why he's like thinking of it.
Yeah, just I mean, it looked at so many things that came back from his past. Well, that's what
I'm saying is I'm like trying to think because I'm thinking of how many things were foreshadowing that we didn't know it at the time. So now I'm going Oh, is that foreshadowing something? Because all those people in that town just disappear? Are they going to come back? Remember all those people just man? Yeah. Are they in a holding cell somewhere and they're going to come out? They're going to all come out.
We shall see zombie virus
people are going to come back. They're going to come get everybody. What else? So the other thing that I thought of that I didn't bring up during an episode. So
these are you thought it I thought these were all from other people?
No, well, the the Winchester shirt and the demon eyes was okay. Okay. The rest of this are little things that I've jotted down. Like after I'm done editing and I'm sober. Okay, that I've been like, ooh, and thought of something and I've just jotted it down in my notes as let's talk about this at the season finale. So in Mystery Spot, of course, of course. Surprise, surprise. I'm not talking about that fine ass. Okay. I'm talking about
something else right now. So in Mystery Spot, it took six months from the last time Dean died when it was Wednesday. And then there was like the montage. Yeah. That was representative of six months where he went to go meet Bobby and Bobby was like, Oh, we have to do a blood sacrifice. And Sam was like, Okay, let's do it. But Dean died, and was in hell for only three months for Sam's time. For DMS time, it was 30 years. But for Sam's time, it was only
three months. And we found out in these last few episodes that Sam and Ruby had been killing people and taking their blood possessed people, but it was still people. So it took him half the time as it did in Mystery Spot to be okay with killing people. No, I'm sorry. It's just an observation. Now granted, he wasn't drinking demon blood and Mystery Spot.
True. But then I have the question of, okay, if they had been killing people, I guess we don't know that they had killed the person before Dean came back from hell actually, we just know that they had killed somebody before the season finale. Yeah. But my question is, how long did it take Ruby to convince Sam to drink her blood?
Guessing not that long.
We know it was less than three months. Yeah.
She got him hooked on it real good.
What was that conversation? Like?
I do not know.
I mean, we know he wanted revenge for Lilith, so I guess maybe that's just what she used. Like, if you're gonna kill robots. You have to drink My Blood bro. Yeah, I mean,
ultimately, her endgame was that so? I guess I'm sure she knew it was his to not on the same page. So yeah, I'm sure that's probably what it was. I can't stop thinking but again like I would take a while for me to be like, Okay, I don't know about drinking your blood, right? I mean she was a person but I guess
what was the it was the coma victim because that was the first thing we saw on the flashback was that when she first tried to come to him after Dean staff and explain that she had got sent back to hell and it took everything to come back to him and yada yada. She went and got the coma patient. Little Thing little pitch. Oh, that's the other thing I noticed is you and I were using bitch a lot more in the last few episodes because they keep saying a bad influence. How dare you?
Bad on us? No, know.
We'll have to watch that. Well. We're hearing it so much.
We're hearing it so much. And in our defense. It'll be a little bit late on the whole time. I mean, come on. I don't feel bad color.
But we called chef nurse bitch.
Oh, we did we just like randomly or
Amin? Yeah, we were using this bitch.
Oh my God.
Don't kill that bitch.
Oh my god. Okay, we gotta stop.
We gotta get that and check. Okay, so speaking of Ruby, I think you're gonna know the answer for me. But which Ruby did you like best Katie Cassidy or Genevieve? Padalecki
Well, I know your answer. I didn't mind Kate Cassidy I thought she was good. But I think I I'm more prone to Jen just because knowing like Her chemistry with Jared and then that they ended up together. I kind of love that. He was good.
I liked Genevieve paddle Aki by the end. Yeah, but my favorite way is still Michelle Hewitt. Williams, your favorite who Ruby was Michelle Hewitt. Williams. You didn't mention that. Who was the maid when she came in with the towels? Okay, well,
you didn't give that. She was the best. It was a
trick question. She was so sassy. That
you're right. I am right. Yeah.
Trick question trick question.
But, I mean, they were all good. Honestly,
yeah. I enjoyed I enjoyed them. Like I said, Katie Cassidy. It wasn't her performance. She played her part, right. I don't think we were supposed to like Ruby for most of the time that Katie Cassidy was playing the character so she did it. Well, there's not a criticism on Katie Cassidy is part. I don't think her character was supposed to be
likable than season three. And then I think they just like with Sam had her win us over through season four, and then pulled the rug out from underneath us at the finish. I mean, in hindsight, there's all these little things but she just got to where she wasn't just conceited and cocky but she was more sassy.
Showing up that dick? Yeah, well, she was getting
that dick. So maybe that's the problem chilled out oh, we're not doing ourselves anything. Okay, so my next my next thought my next ponder that I have for you is at the end when the archangel showed up at Chuck's house, and Castile sent Dean to the convent. tickettriangle stops him. Why was the archangel showing up? We were told the archangel would show up if there was a threat to chuck. Why was it deemed that Castile and Dean were a threat?
Or well, are we sure that was the threat? Or was it the threat of what was going on? With Lilith and all them?
Yeah, maybe the threat was actually that the angels wanted the apocalypse to happen. And the fact that cost CL was helping Dean was the threat. It wasn't so much the profit was being threatened as it was their plan was being threatened. So they were sending the archangel to try and stop Cassiel from helping stop the profit from helping maybe that's more what it was. Yeah, because Cassiel or Dean wouldn't hurt Chuck.
No, let's wait. Well, by my point was like, they knew what was going on. What's gonna happen with Sam and Lola was like, what was going on there? Yeah, but she came to protect him just like once she was out.
Once Lucifer was out, yeah, maybe? Either way. I don't know. Well, no, I guess we'll see. Yeah. And then my last pondering thought, without his supplier. How is Sam gonna cope with his addiction next season?
Yeah, no, gotta go through detox. Another one.
Yeah, I don't know. That's what he's gonna say. Is he gonna? Is he gonna go out and try to catch demons by himself to get his fix now?
I don't know. Because I can't see.
Dean and Bobby aren't gonna help him.
They're not gonna help. So I don't know. I'm gonna go rogue on his own. We'll see. Or maybe that was what happened was his lesson and being like, okay, you know what? No, I need to stop Yeah, maybe, you know, Oh,
Ruby did say he shot his load like that he was all out. Oh, that's right. So maybe it's out of his system and he's gonna be fine. Yeah, that's probably it. So much remains unanswered. Okay, well, as far as the season goes, what were your two favorite episodes and why?
Okay, well, as I opened another drink, let me tell you. My first one was monster movie. Ah, that's one of mine. Is it?
But I had four. I couldn't. That's okay. I didn't know
we could do that. Well, yeah, I
put down what I wanted. I'm like, surely she's gonna name at least one of these. Okay, so that works.
Okay. It was so good. It was just so cute. I was I liked that. It was so different. Black and white. It was very kitschy, like back to the old school monster movies. I just loved it.
That was one of the campus episodes of the season. So I'm kind of surprised you picked that?
Well, I think just because it stands on its own so much. You know, so unique and fun.
And Todd stash wick did so well and the shapeshifter role, camping it up. And just all the shadow play.
Oh, yeah, that episode that like film noir time. Yeah.
I loved it. It was so good. It was so good. Yeah, that's one of those ones. I feel like I would go back and watch again. It was good. Okay, what's your other one?
My other one is also a monster. The monster at the end of this book? Oh, it was so good. Okay, I was like that. You were to say you pick that one, too. No, I didn't. I didn't.
That was one that I had to I Okay, listen, my list was like six or seven. And I had to narrow it down. And that was one of the ones that I did take off.
Okay, well, I just thought it was so clever. Bringing in him as the writer. Yeah, like, I don't know. I just thought that was we just think Rob Benedict's adult. Yeah, he was adorable. Like it was nice to see his introduction and then just super clever with him being this author that is just writing their story. It's crazy. So what about you?
I had four I've been able to narrow them down to three now. Okay, so the first one I have is the season premiere Lazarus rising can manners direction I almost went with that was so good. So good. Dean's resurrection at the beginning the gas station scene just all of that phenomenal. All of it uh, Jim Beaver and or I should I shouldn't use the actor's names. I should use the character names Bobby and Dean's reunion. That whole scene. Just so good. And then of course cast
yells introduction. Oh, yeah. It just that episode just completely hyped us up. We were like on the edge of our seats excited for this season. And just so many gorgeous shots throughout the entire episode, all the different angles, the use of light the use of color, the use of shadows with Castillo's wings. I mean, it's just phenomenal.
And I like if you think about it, it was so centered on Sam Dean Bobby, and then Castile, mainly. I mean, he was there for a hot minute. But it was mostly just them and their relationship and working out this situation together that I liked that
kind of also setting the tone of something's not quite right between Dean and Sam. You know, it didn't have to be explicitly put out there. Yeah, we knew like we knew right away, something's off. And we didn't know what but we knew they were lying to each other. And that that wasn't going to be a good thing. Yeah. All right. So for my next one that I couldn't bring myself to delete. When the Levee Breaks,
yeah, yeah. Okay, you're you were these are all ones I was looking out to.
It was just the hallucinations like it's I feel like there has to be some foreshadowing and those hallucinations that we're gonna see to come pass going on there. With Sam finding out but angels have this ulterior motive all along. You know, they're just like Ruby they're using it. Yeah, doing the same thing. You're they're using SAM to pour a little Sammy. Yeah. Oh,
oh, that's what I meant. Sam. Yeah, well, they're
gonna be using Dean also. I mean, yeah, you're using them both. We just don't know to the full extent of what they're doing with Dean I think that what they wanted for Sam you know, his part to play I think that he played it Yeah. You know, they want the apocalypse to happen
which I think in the special features they they even said something about how with the the beginning of like the Adam and Eve and all that it's like it wasn't an accident like God like supposedly like they're saying like, God knew all that was gonna happen. Like it's not like that was an accident that happen And he knew it all. So it's kind of the similar same thing.
Well, it's like the the speech. Yeah, there is no light without dark. They were saying that God needed an adversary. So yeah, there you go. Robert singer killed it, but his blocking and his shots and like, I'm still convinced that there's a different lens at play in that episode. I don't I don't know enough to know for sure. But I'm pretty convinced. I'm pretty sure it's the lens. And then the practical effects when Sam got slammed up against the wall. I mean, just there was so much in
that episode. It was really good. And then the last one I have listed is the season finale of Lucifer rising. Eric crypkey killed it. The transitions between sets was oh, creative. Yes. So creative. I just thoroughly enjoyed those last two episodes of the season. Me too.
Well, I'd already picked my two before we watched them. So I was like really contemplating, contemplated like switching one of them for one of those, but I stuck with it. So I'm glad you picked.
I mean, they're just yeah, those two. It's a double whammy, man. Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you wait it into season
so good. Speaking of the season ending, what are you looking forward to next season? Or do you have any predictions for next season?
I don't want to make any predictions. Okay. But I am, I'm, I want to see more Dean and Castiel interaction, and what that's going to be like, I'm curious now that we talked about it to see how Sam is going to be shooting his load. How that's okay. So, I mean, and I have to assume this season's gonna bring us some new characters now that I mean, Ruby's gone, little gone. You know?
I mean, surely Zachariah is going to be more at play. Oh, yes. Yeah. I'm excited about that. He's just such a prick. I love him. Yeah. So I want to see more of that. I would think that Chuck is going to be more involved to Yes. Which I know we're both we're both pro Chuck. But yeah, I mean, I was
what else? Do you ever mention? Sorry? It just talked right over. No,
you're good. I have I have zero predictions. I have no idea. I mean, I assume that during the season, we're going to find out what Dean is supposed to do to stop Lucifer. Yeah. Whatever the fuck that is. I have zero predictions as to what it is.
I do hope that now that Ruby's gone, and hopefully, Sam's not a bloodsucker anymore, that we get our boys back. Yeah. Yeah. Mainly my Sammy. Yeah. Dad's been pretty solid.
I think we will. I think that once they really established that it was an addiction. Yeah. You know, I think that a lot of the things that were not la Sammy happening this season. I think it was the demon blood influence. Yeah, definitely. So yeah, I think he's going to either already be detox from it, and we're gonna get Sammy back or that will get Sammy back by the end of the season.
Who have you neck in the next season?
Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping it'll happen sooner, but who knows? They have to have some sort of overarching conflict. True, true. And then you know, of course, a little birdie whispered in my ear that we get not one but two tricks are upset, upset.
Oh, you got a little tripped up there.
We get to trickster episodes. That's exciting. So I'm very much looking forward to that. I hope we haven't talked about him at all this season because he wasn't in a single episode
I do hope well, I hope in his two episodes, he's got a pretty big part. It's not just like a little cameo
I hear he's got a pretty big part. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, I mean, unless you have any other thoughts on season four, we can talk a lot but we probably should. So to close that out. We are going to toast to the casualties this season. We're focusing only on recurring characters. Because if we focused on all of them that would be way too long. So first up, we've got my my n Uriel. played by Robert wisdom,
so good. My girl Pamela, played by Tracy Dinwiddie, witty witch, and I will say in the bloopers when she she was blind, and she just like ran herself into the door was hilarious. Yeah.
That was funny. Alistair Oh yeah, played by Mark Rolston, Andrew Wheeler and the fabulous crystal For Hire doll
and Lilith played by Rachel Patti Sierra McCormick Kate Cassidy and Catherine Boucher.
And last but certainly not least, Ruby played by Katie Cassidy. Anna Williams, Michelle Hewitt Williams and Genevieve. Paddle lucky. Cheers. Thank you for listening to denim wrapped nightmares.
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