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Dead in the Water (1x3)

Nov 02, 202228 minSeason 1Ep. 3
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Berly and LA recap and discuss the season one Supernatural episode, Dead in the Water. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures. Now, let's get tipsy!  CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞

Summary: In the "Denim Wrapped Nightmares" podcast, hosts Berly and LA discuss Supernatural episode 1x03, "Dead in the Water." They recap the previous episode's cannibalism theme and praise the cinematography in the current episode, which references "Jaws." The plot revolves around Sam and Dean investigating a series of drownings in Lake Manitowoc, suspecting a vengeful spirit. They meet Andrea and her son Lucas, who witnessed his father's drowning. The brothers uncover a red bicycle buried in the woods, linking the disappearances to a 35-year-old case involving Peter Sweeney. They confront Jake Devins, who admits to bullying Peter, leading to his death. The episode concludes with Sam and Dean saving Andrea and Lucas from the vengeful spirit.

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Berly

Music. Welcome to denim wrapped nightmares, Tipsy exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series, episode by episode, over

LA

drinks, we'll discuss the lore the gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.

Berly

I'm Burleigh and I'm a new fan of the series.

LA

I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy. Hello, LA, hello. Barely.

Berly

So this week we are on season one, episode three, dead in the water. That was good. Thank you. I don't even know if that's the words of the song, but that's just what I heard drown in the water, is it? I

LA

think that's the name. What's the song? Yeah,

Berly

yeah, something. That's what I heard whenever I read the title. Yeah. But before we get into episode three, we have a quick recap of last week's episode, which, when we started digging into the lore, it got a little depressing, Yeah, ooh. Well, I

LA

mean, cannibalism is never gonna be fun, yeah?

Berly

It's not gonna be. It's not ever gonna be a good time, right? But the show was interesting. I enjoyed the episode, but, yeah, the lore, digging into the lore, was not fun. But we'll recap the show. We'll leave the lore alone. Where it was Sam and Dean followed the coordinates left in their father's journal, and they ended up in Black Ridge, Colorado, basically in the middle of nowhere, and were helping some people find their brother who had gone out on a camping trip and had

disappeared. Basically they end up learning that they are dealing with a Windigo, which is a creature made famous in Native American Legends. A Wendigo is a former human whose cannibalism has transformed him into a creature with superhuman strength and speed that feasts on human flesh. And so it was really, really cool. Cinematically, all that stuff, lore, depressing, all that stuff, but overall, a pretty good episode. Yeah, and

LA

I have to say there were a couple moments, like where they the certain shots and, like the light on their faces, and everything was done really well.

Berly

That's what I was saying. Like the cinematography I really appreciated. Yeah, it

LA

was a good one.

Berly

The cannibalism discussion just ooged me out. So this week, luckily, it's not as Oogie LA. Take us into the recap. Let's talk about the gore and what we adore from episode

LA

three. All right. Well, if the

Berly

way to kick it off. We're off to a great start. The

LA

opening scene of this app. Okay, the opening scene in this episode is really reminiscent of the opening scene of the 1970 jaws.

Berly

7075

LA

did I say, Yeah, 1975 so 75 and I was like, one of Spielberg's first Yeah,

Berly

I just didn't realize it was, I always thought it was the 80s movie. Oh, okay, okay, so, yeah, where the girls swimming? And then,

LA

like, she, like, it's dark in Jaws, like she's out in the ocean, right? And then she's just swimming around, and then gets pulled under. Well, this one, she is in a lake. Was a lake. We're talking about the SIS, the girl that goes missing, right? Yeah, very beginning in the opening. So, yeah, she dies into the lake and is just kind of doing her thing. She's swimming and then stops, same thing gets pulled under, right? It was, it was kind of cool to

have a little Ode to jaws. I'm sure they did that on purpose. Well,

Berly

the fantasy, horror, drama, supernatural, I'm sure that we're gonna see a lot of kind of, like at last episode, I that was definitely Carrie, like one had a you know. So it's nice to see Carrie and now jaws, and it's fun. I'm enjoying it. Homages to Yeah, other stuff, yeah. I'm excited for fans to start telling us the stuff we've missed, because I'm sure we've missed all little easter eggs and things. Yeah. Okay, so opening scene Jaws, we see a

girl go in the lake. She's swimming, and then she gets pulled under. Gotcha

LA

Well, Sam and Dean, they decided to investigate this drowning of this girl that we saw in the opening scene, 18 year old, Sophie Carlton. And she's a the third drowning victim in the last year whose body wasn't recovered from Lake Manito mana talk. Now, they got this information people from a newspaper. Yeah, they, I don't know if anybody remembers those. It was they

Berly

don't have a Google search set yeah for weird shit on on their phones and whatnot,

LA

old school, circling it in the newspaper and taking that clipping with you. Yeah. So anyway, they they go to the local sheriff's office and pose as federal wildlife. Of officers, which I love, that they keep posing as all these different like officers and people, and it's like anybody that looked at them would know you're not any type of officer, and nobody's dressed, yeah? I

Berly

mean, not since the pilot, yeah. And even then he questioned it, and they're like, Oh, well, thank you. They just kept talking and just moved right past it, yeah. Speaking of the newspapers, the other thing I noticed that I haven't mentioned yet is they're using maps, yeah, to find all these places that they're going to not map. GPS, no GPS, no printouts from map quests, like they're literally looking at maps and

going that way. I tried using a map one time I was in El Paso for work, and I got lost because I missed a turn on my map quests. And Mapquest doesn't reroute for you, like you're fucked. You missed a turn on MapQuest, you're fucked. And I had to call my dad, and my dad had to go look at a map and find where I was, and then give me like my dad was my GPS, yeah, in my phone, being like, turn right, turn left and got me to where I needed to be. We're so spoiled. So yeah,

LA

so newspapers and maps people, that's where we're at,

Berly

right? And Blackberry phones, yes,

LA

alright, so they're posing as federal wildlife officers at the local sheriff's office. Who his name is, Jake Devins. Was it Devins or Devons? Can't remember. Anyway,

Berly

I shrugged.

LA

They tell him that they have found or he tells them that they found nothing in the lake despite like running sonar sweeps and that the lake is soon going to be drained because they're gonna have a local dam or, no, the local dam is leaking. Yeah,

Berly

they like, open the spillway or something. Yeah, there was a, it was, like, a, kind of a complicated thing, like something, something opened the spillway. There's not gonna be like, soon anyway,

LA

so it's basically not gonna be there much longer, right? And while they're there, they also meet Jake's daughter Andrea barn, or her little son, Lucas. Lucas clearly has some issues. He doesn't speak at all. Yeah, and

Berly

Andrea is played by Amy Acker, who, if you were a fan of Buffy, the vampire and Angel series, which I think we're also on, CW, Amy Acker is she? She's a main character, later on, an angel. Oh, really, yeah, I can't remember the character. The

LA

name sounds familiar. Think she was

Berly

in quite a few things by Joss Whedon. I think she was, like, a regular actress that he used repeatedly. But I'm drawing blank on what else she was in. Oh, okay, but I know she was an angel. Okay, yeah,

LA

they have all these, like, pretty ladies in each episode that I like flirting with one of them. You know, mainly Dean. I'm ready to see some flirting with Sam, but I know we gotta wait for it. I do get over his grieving.

Berly

I am gonna call out LA, when we started this episode, one of the first things she said was, what are they gonna take their shirts off? No, I

LA

said. I was like, Do they ever, do they ever take their shirts off? They like to have something to look forward to. Just it was just the question, you know, just curious

Berly

they do. I wasn't paying attention to the story whenever I watched the series originally, but I know I saw things that made me stop and be like, Oh, okay, what's happening? Cool.

LA

I'm ready for it,

Berly

right? Let's get to it. Come on. So

LA

anyway, so Sam and Dean researched further into the lake. So they learned that not only have six other people disappeared in Lake, Manitowoc, oh, I keep wanting to say Manitowoc,

Berly

yeah, because mana talk, we did Google. It is not real. There is not a lake. Manitowoc, yeah, but there is a what is it? Manitowoc, and that's like, is that a lake or a town? Think it's a town. Think it's a town, city, yeah.

LA

Anyway, so six other people disappeared in Lake Manitowoc over the last 35 years, and they also find out that little Lucas witnessed his father's drowning earlier that year, and he spent like two, what would they say, like, two hours before he was right, he was just on like a little plank,

Berly

yeah, just like, floating on her little raft or something, which would be traumatizing, and explains that he's not speaking right now, right?

LA

And doesn't Andrea, like, say he's got, like, PTSD, right? It's not, she doesn't say that, but that's basically

Berly

what it is, yeah, basically getting around to, like, he's, he's gone through a lot, is what I think she's trauma, yeah, at the end of rumor, if it's Andrea, or if it was her dad who was the sheriff. Oh, and, yeah, I

LA

think it was the dad. I

Berly

think it was the dad. Yeah. He was like, he's been through a lot. Yeah, we've all been through a lot. Yeah, that's what he said, Yeah. Very dramatic. And telling, yeah,

LA

yeah. So they decided to go talk to loose Lucas and see if he'll, you know, talk to them. Andrea and Lucas are at the park. Dean tells Lucas he knows what it's like to see something that most people wouldn't believe and kind of sits down, tries to be buddies with him, and tells him he's, you know, he's good at drawing, I'm gonna draw a picture with you.

Berly

And proceeds to draw stick figures. Yeah.

LA

He tells him, this is my family. He's like, this is my mom, my dad, my brother. And then he doesn't. He's like, it's not that great, but leaves

Berly

it for like, so I'm a shitty artist. What of it? What

LA

do you want to say? But he's just trying to get Lucas to kind of give him any kind of clue of what he saw when his dad waited he was with his dad. Yeah, and Lucas just kind of ignores him, keeps drawing, and then so they are over, off to the side, talking with Andrea, and Lucas walks up and hands Dean a picture, and it's a picture, good drawing for a little

Berly

it was really good of a house. There were sporadic, really good drawings that it was like, okay, somebody else did these drawings, and they didn't do kid drawing well enough. Yeah. Like, there were some of the, some of the drawings of the bicycle looked like a kid did it, but some of them, I was like, a kid didn't do that one, a kid didn't do that house drawing.

LA

Very talented kid. Really good. Yeah, okay, so the same night, that same night, will Carlton, who is Sophie's father, yeah,

Berly

the dad of the daughter that we saw in the open, that they came

LA

to investigate about, right? Yeah. Oh, no, this, that's her brother or the brother? Yeah, sorry. So will Bill, Bill, Bill

Berly

Carlton is the father. Is the dad. Will is the brother,

LA

yeah, so will Carlton is, I think he doing dishes or something, and in the kitchen sink, he starts running the water. It turns to black water, gross, right? And even though he pulls up the drain, the plug, the plug, like this, whole sink is filled with water. It's one of those big countries, yeah, and something pulls him under his head, below the surface, and drowns him. I mean, if you don't see anything, it just looks like something invisible is pulling

him in. And so then Sam informs dean of Will's death, and they conclude that whatever's going on in the lake knows the lake is being drained and it's running out of time to get its revenge, yeah. And they assume that Sophie's father, Sophie and Will's father, Bill Clinton, is somehow involved, since they're targeting them. You said, Bill Clinton, did? I really did?

They assume that Sophie and Will's father, Bill Carlton, were somehow involved, since it keeps targeting his well, it targeted his two children, and then Lucas's father was actually his godson. So it's all people related to him. They don't learn anything from Bill because he's just too traumatized and grieving and can't He doesn't give them anything. Yeah,

Berly

he's like, I've answered too many questions. Yeah, I'm sad, baby alone. You're not supposed to watch your children die, which is true. I have, I have heard that's like the most terrible experiences ever. When

LA

they're leaving, Dean looks over at the front of the house, and then pulls out the drawing that Lucas gave him, gave to him, and he realizes it's the same house. And so they go to visit Lucas again, and then dean ends up telling him about what happened with his mother, not details, of course, because that would terrify the child, right? He was like

Berly

she was stuck on the ceiling, bleeding on my baby brother, and then she burst into flames. Like he didn't go into detail, yeah, he just said he saw something scary, right? That he he knew he had to be brave. Basically, yes,

LA

yes. And Lucas provides Dean with a second drawing that is another house, but it's next to next to a white church with a boy wearing a red cap on his red bicycle. Yes,

Berly

which we've seen the bicycle a couple of times. Yeah, so we already know there's something important about that. Yes.

LA

So Sam and Dean go and find the church and the house that's nearby, and there's a woman living there, and they discover that her son, Peter Sweeney vanished 35 years ago on his bicycle, red bicycle. So bicycle,

Berly

I want to ride my bicycle.

LA

Okay, so while they're there, talking with um, Oh, Miss Sweeney, I guess Mrs. Sweeney

Berly

Todd. Oh, my God, no, no more cannibalism. We're over the cannibalism. Why did I go back to cannibalism? Oh, Dean

LA

spots a photo of Peter and with Bill Carlton. And they start to think that bill may have had, may have killed Peter, and the thing in the lake is Peter's Vengeful Spirit coming after them, after their families, so they go back to Bill, but as they arrive, Bill is motoring out on his little boat on the lake.

Berly

Oh, yeah, this shot scared us. Oh, my God. We're like, what? It's just got

LA

his little motor going. He's trucking along, and then out of out of nowhere, some it looks like an explosion happened. Yeah? Like, there's nothing there. It's just like, it comes up from under his boat. It blasts him out of the boat and just like, obliterates the boat, yeah,

Berly

just flips the boat up, like, just like a giant cat swatting something up. Just like, flipped it. So Peter got Bill, yeah. Bill, like, went flying out, yeah, and he vanished under. Water.

LA

So after that, the sheriff tries to run Sam and Dean out of town because he realizes they're not real federal wildlife officers, which

Berly

I think he had a hint, like he had an inkling about that from the very beginning. You could tell he suspected, as

LA

they all should, when they try to save somebody, so they're leaving town. But of course, Dean thinks the Hunt's not over, and doesn't turn off to could leave town, turns back into town, and they go to Andrea's house. Lucas answers the door panicked, leads them to the bathroom, where Andrea had started taking a bath. But of course, the black water snuck in, and same thing that happened to will she's being pulled under by seemingly something invisible. I

Berly

remember that scene really disturbed us when she's in the tub and you see like the dirty water, like she's sitting there with her eyes closed, just trying to relax, and you see this dirty water starting to engulf around her, like decolletage and all that. It's just like, oh.

LA

So the boys bust in, Sam heroically pulls her out of the water, right? And

Berly

like she's naked because she's in a tub. And so like Sam Winchester, reaching in there, grabbing you like big old hands and pulling you out the tub. I would have been real tempted to just roll over. I

LA

would have been like Sam or Dean and Lucas, please give me a minute. Just

Berly

step away, Sam,

LA

you shut the door.

Berly

Sam, oh, I'm cold. Hold me tighter. Oh,

LA

well, anyway, after she's out of the water and everything, she tells them that she heard a voice saying, Come play with me. Creepy. And Dean goes through and call back to

Berly

the shining.

LA

Oh yeah, come

Berly

play with us. Hey, daddy. Dean

LA

goes through Andrea's photo

Berly

grown up. Danny, can get it too. Oh yeah, you won. Mcgroger,

LA

okay, sorry. Dean goes through Andrea's photo albums while they're there, and while she's kind of chatting with Dean. And he discovers an old photo of Andrea's dad, Jake with Peter. And he assumes that Jake was also involved in Peter's death, and that Peter's spirit is targeting both Bill and Jake's loved ones, as I said. And when we

Berly

say old, we're talking like Boy Scouts, yeah, like,

LA

yeah. So then Lucas leads them to this spot in the woods that's near the lake, and he just stands there and like looks at Sam and Dean looks down. And so they send him back into the house and start digging. And they discover a red bicycle buried there in that spot that Lucas showed them

Berly

bicycle.

LA

And then lo and behold, who shows up as Jake with a gun. He's not happy, pointing it at the brothers. He reveals basically that Peter was the smaller one of the group. They bullied him. They were out at the lake one day putting his head under the water, and just so happened to do to keep him under a little too long, and he drowned, yep, so they let his body go into the lake. And, you know, just never told anybody Yeah, and then buried the bike.

So as they're all discovering this around the bicycles Lucas, they see Lucas over by the lake on the dock,

Berly

because Lucas heard come play with right? And went, Okay. And, like, ran over to the lake, and he dropped one of his little green army. They

LA

had an army. That's what he's trying to reach, right, yeah. And, of course, the arm, dead arm, dead looking arm, like, comes up, pulls him in. It

Berly

looked like it was decaying. The makeup was pretty good. It was like, the ring, yeah, the makeup was really good on the vengeful spirit, yeah, well,

LA

and even when the little face comes up out of the water, eyes, eyes up, that's it. That's all you see. It was, it

Berly

was creepy as fuck. Yeah, Sam and Dean jump in.

LA

They keep going under, trying to find him nothing. They can't find anything. And then Jake slowly walks in, takes his jacket off, is apologizing to Peter, asking him to take him instead of Lucas. And then he goes under. Peter gets him, and then dean makes a very dramatic burst out of the water with Lucas, yeah,

Berly

and save the day. They hung on that shot a little long. It was Yeah, but it was pretty Yeah, so I won't, I won't fault them for it. Yes.

LA

So next day, Sam and Dean are ready to leave, and Andrea Lucas and Lucas see them off, Andrea gives Dean a kiss. He gets all these kisses as he leaves these towns. And

Berly

we got a sneak peek of sammy's Tum Tum. Oh yes, there's that marquee it was, you have to blink and you'll miss it. But there's a little Marky Mark moment where his like underwear is sticking out of the top of his pants, and you get his little Tum Tum. And didn't you say you spotted his mic wire? Mike wire, yeah.

LA

But thankfully, at this point, Lucas is over his trauma. He's talking again. Yay. And Dean tells him the most important phrase that he needs to remember, Zeppelin rules, of course, and that's it. That was that, yet again,

Berly

the Winchester save the day, of course. So I thought this was a fun episode. Yeah, I liked this one better than the Wendigo. Even though I enjoyed the Wendigo, it was just very different, yeah, and a lot they're very different from one to the next. So far, I agree, like tonally, the same, but just different. So I'm I'm enjoying that. Now, as far as the lore, as you already said, we've got a

vengeful ghost. And technically, this is the second vengeful ghost that we've encountered, because the woman in white was also a vengeful ghost. What is a vengeful ghost? So in mythology and folklore, a vengeful ghost, or a vengeful spirit is said to be the spirit of a dead person who returns from the afterlife to seek revenge from a cruel,

unnatural or unjust death. In certain cultures where funeral and burial or cremation ceremonies are important, such vengeful spirits may also be considered as unhappy ghosts of individuals who have not been given a proper funeral, and this is all from Wikipedia. The concept of a vengeful ghost seeking retribution for harm that it endured as a living person goes back to ancient times and is part of many

cultures. According to such legends and beliefs, they roam the world of the living as restless spirits seeking to have their grievances redressed, and may not be satisfied until they have succeeded in punishing either their murderers or their tormentors. So a lot of the cultural references are all women. So of course, of course, because we're vengeful psycho bitches who are going to come back from the dead to haunt you, we're hysterical. Women. Hysterical. We're so crazy.

Anyway, I did manage to find a story about little boy, however, oh, this is a story of Tanaka, the Drowned ghost. And it's a ghostly haunting hailing from the village of Ola. Am I saying that right on the Big Island of Hawaii?

LA

Hola, ha, yeah,

Berly

I'm sure. Oh, o, l, a, apostrophe, a, aloha. I don't know Aloha. I'm not sure, and I don't trust Google pronunciation stuff anymore. But anyway, in 1947 while neighborhood kids were playing on the shore of a pond, one of them fell in and disappeared beneath the waves. The boy to the pond or the ocean. The said pond, okay, but it could be ocean. This isn't necessarily something that's factual. Oh, okay. This is just a story of a boy. You don't say

all right, yeah. So our whole Is there any truth to the lore thing? I don't know, but this was a story I was able to find. So the boy Tanaka did not service. When divers entered the water to rescue him, they found the dead boy sitting on a rock at the very bottom of the pond. His eyes and mouth were open as hippie calmly sat down on the rock and waited to die. Oh, wow. Years later, at noon, another boy was walking about 50 yards behind his father along the

pond's beaches. So it sank pond, but beach makes me think, ocean. Yeah. Oh, well, take it up with obscure ban dash legend.fandom.com, suddenly, the little boy with his dad, he fell in and screamed to his father that he was being pulled into the water. When divers entered the water, they found the boy sitting on the bottom of the pond, arms at his sides, eyes and mouth open and swaying to and fro in the current. Fortunately, the other boy was brought to the surface in time

to save his life. Oh, good. And then the other drowned ghost, vengeful spirit that I could think of within recent memory, again, not true. Was from that movie, what lies beneath, with Michelle Pfeiffer and Harrison Ford. Did you ever see that in it was so good. Yeah, that movie came out in the year 2000 that's a good one. It's a good one. So if you haven't seen that movie, I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen it before, but it's really good.

Talk about cinematography, they did some crazy things with shots where Michelle Pfeiffer, like morphs into the vengeful ghost and whatnot. And it's got some mystery to it. It's a really good story about two great actors, two amazing actors, about a vengeful ghost too, a drowned ghost, so, oh, did I just spoil it? No. Okay, no. But. Anyways, that's what I have for lore. I couldn't find anything, you know, factual,

yeah, it was all legends. And of course, yeah, honestly, I couldn't find a whole lot about vengeful ghosts who had died in water. There is another cultural ghost, I believe it's Japan, where they have a name for the ghost, and it's basically goes to diet C, I think it's, it's has something to do with boats and whatnot, but this was the one that was like a kid, a little boy, so this is the story I chose to go with. Okay, well,

it's creepy. It's still creepy, nonetheless, like picturing the little boy just sitting down there with his eyes and mouth opens swing to and fro and no, thank you. So to close out this episode, the iconic quote that I chose was from Andrea, and this was after she walked them to the motel, because apparently turn left and walked two blocks was too hard of directions for Dean. She said, It must be hard with your sense of direction, never being able to find your way to a

decent pickup line. Oh, cheers, learn.

LA

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