Welcome to denim wrapped nightmares tipsy exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series episode by episode.
over drinks, we'll discuss the lore of gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
I'm burly, and I'm a new fan of the series.
I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now, let's get tipsy. Hello. Hey Burley. So you really liked this week's episode.
I thought it was cute. I enjoyed it
into it. Hit me. I'm sorry, tapped me a couple of times.
I got up and down and moved around. I was all over the living room. I don't know if it was that or the several white claws I had before we sat down to watch this episode camo Maybe? Who knows? And the title we thought was very odd. Yeah, but I googled it and children shouldn't play with dead things was actually a 1972 comedy horror movie with a $50,000 budget thing. Talking low budget. Yeah. No, get no.
I feel like that's weird that they would name this episode after something that was funny because this episode is not supposed to be funny at all.
I was laughing my ass off. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, got a rattle in like a change chain.
I need change. Okay, there. I mean, there are some good quotes.
There were some really good one liners, but it
wasn't meant to be like a funny episode. I feel like you know, like the comedy drama.
I see what you're talking about that the overarching theme and angst moment with the single tear and all that that we have at the end like I get it, but there are a lot of funny one liners.
Oh yeah,
I chuckled. But before we dig into this week's episode with, you know, explore adore Gore, lore, and more. Let's talk about really quickly, what we watched last week. So last week, Sam and Dean met Gordon played by Sterling K Brown, and He is a fellow Hunter, who has been systemically killing vampires in a small town for over a year. Dean immediately bonds with this guy. Yeah, is not a good guy to bond with. But Sam figures out something fucked up is going on
here. And actually meets one of the vampires who lets him know they're like a vampire version of vegetarian, I guess. Yeah, they're just drinking animal blood. They don't kill humans. They are just living a normal life and want to be left alone. They aren't going to hurt anybody if you don't hurt them kind of thing. So we have a little bit of a conflict between Sam and Dean on that, but it gets resolved and they figure out that Gordon is the real
creep. He ends up being the the villain in the end, and they make up and leave Gordon tied up in a house. And Dean finally admits that he's not handling daddy's death. So well. And Sam is like, no shit. Yeah, I know. And that's kind of where we left things off.
Yeah. And then we go to children shouldn't play with dead.
No one should play with dead things. Just to be clear here,
right? We start out in Greenville, Illinois, at a guy named Neal's house. And he's sitting at a table with this pretty, pretty girl. She looks upset and he's pulling out booze saying we got booze we got chocolate basically just sounds like she's gone through something, an issue and he's there to comfort her.
You were immediately like, Oh, I think he's trying to be more than a shoulder to cry on or something like that. Well,
yeah. Because she was like, You're You're such a good friend. And it's like, I was like, Oh, he doesn't want to be your friend honey.
That was a he wants more than that.
But and then they're interrupted by a bait banging at the door and we find out it's Angela's boyfriend, Matt. She's clearly pissed at him doesn't want to see him.
Matt's very aggro. Yeah, getting all up, getting all up in Neil's space and then telling me oh, get out of my face. I was like you had Neil's house? Yeah, you're at his house. You're stepping up into his face and yelling at him to get out. Right? Come on
already. We don't like that. No, I mean, he pushes himself into the house and they walk into the kitchen and she's gone. Angela PISA buck out she's like I'm not having this. And she like jumped out of the window I think some right like didn't even go through door she she went through the window that that's how bad she didn't want to see that. Oh, he we don't know what I went down but she is not happy with him. And we see her driving a radically down the
road trying to get home. And then of course Matt calls her on her cell phone and he's apologizing so I'm sorry baby blah, blah, blah. And then she starts to get a little Wait, not even staying in the lane crying and eventually runs runs into. I don't even know what the median kind of thing.
You don't like those concrete barricade things that they have like on 30. But it was something like that. Yeah, I
think but I was just seeing the way she was driving. I was like, how did she run into that?
I mean, she swerved real far she did. I think that how they had it was that the road was curving, and she didn't turn with the road that she went straight.
Okay, that makes sense. But yeah, so we the car, smoking, windshields cracked, and we Angela's bloody she is not alive.
No eyes are open. Blood is seeping out of places. Yeah, she. She goes, yeah.
And then we see our voice. They're driving and apparently Dean wants to go and visit their mother's grave. And he just wants to pay his respects.
Sam, not Dean. So I say Dean. Yeah. You got Dean on the brain. Sre
Damn, wants to go and visit their mother's grave and pay his respects. Dean thinks it's crazy. There's no bones there. There was nothing to bury. It's just a headstone. It was planted by their uncle, but I guess they didn't know their uncle.
Yeah, they said an uncle we'd never met. It's basically a stranger, which I don't think the fact that they had an uncle ever comes up again.
Yeah, that's weird. Well, maybe I guess her brother and I never really did anything with him after she died, I guess. I guess dad had them all over the US hunting thing. But Dean finally agrees and takes him there. He wants to go by Roadhouse and check out if anybody's hunting anything. So if anybody's heard about the demon, but now Sam's not having it, and they go to the cemetery.
I related to Dean whenever Sam was like, that's fine. You can go to the Roadhouse. I'll get a ride some other way. And Dean was what so I'm gonna go there. And for small talk with everybody until you show up. No, I don't think so. No, I get it. That's how I would be. Yeah.
I don't like that. Yeah, well, I feel like Dean's a little codependent with Sam. He wants him there all the time was super
codependent. Yeah, but I don't like forcing small talk. It's my point. Oh, same.
Oh, me too. It's it's the worst when somebody
comes up to me, who I don't know very well. Like, hey, how have you been? What have you been up to? Like, you don't really care? Why are you asking me that question?
And I don't have anything to tell you.
I have nothing to tell you or king. I've
been living, you know, what else do you need to know? Yeah,
you don't really care? Why are you asking me that? It's just Oh, and I have to think of something to say. And then I have to ask the same question back to you. Whenever I don't care. You know, it's just a bunch of pitches torture.
Well, when we get to the cemetery, Sam is at the gravestone, and he's got his knife and he's digging a little hole in the ground. As you mentioned, it wasn't able to there was not
deep, like a lawnmower is gonna go over that hole. And those dog tags are gonna get Yeah, all kinds of up in the blades.
So he had his dad's dog tags, and he basically told the tombstone, headstone, whatever, that he thinks dad would have wanted her to have these. So he buries them there, which is very sweet and sad. And Dean is off wandering about avoiding his mother's grave. And he discovers this like, really sad, dead look at tree, like, grow pathetic. And it goes over there. And it's like, that's weird. And then he notices he's looks down and notices there's a perfect circle
of dead grass. And one of the little place markers that new headstones coming in. And it is our girl, Angela, who died in that car accident at the beginning. Dean immediately wants, like anything he could do to get out of that cemetery. He's like, we need to go investigate this right now. Let's go. Sounds like this has
nothing to do with us. It's just a car accident, like, insane or but Dean's like, how do you explain a perfect circle of dead grass and a dead tree right next to this person's grave.
Sam tries to say, oh, it's pesticides or something. But Dean apparently found the groundskeeper. Yeah, he
did some more. It was there.
He's like, no, no, nope. That's not what's happening. It's not anything like that. The groundskeeper said they don't know what the fuck is happening. Yeah.
And Dean says like, these are signs of unholy ground. Right. Holy. Something unholy is going on there. Somehow Dean finds out that Angela's father is a professor at the local college that she had been going to as well. So they go to his office and try to chat him up. Dean is abrasive in the room, Sam, I mean, this man just I think they said Her funeral was like three days ago. This poor man's grieving his daughter within like days. And Dean is like, what's with this book?
What's the what the fuck is with this book over here?
And it's with all these books. Oh, workaholics,
shout out. So Sam is you know, being empathetic like he's the man showing pictures of his daughter and Sam's like she was beautiful and he's like
she wants he's talking about how he's still called Her phone Yeah and for he'll forget that she's dead until it keeps ringing. It's really sad. Yeah.
But then dean bus then what about the book? And the guy says that it's an ancient Greek philosophy book and he teaches a class on it. He starts to kind of like, what is he aggressively start asking him besides the book?
Well, he starts kind of being like, yeah, like you're really grieving. You're really sad you do anything to get her back. And the
guy like he doesn't. He's a sweet guy, but you can tell he's kind of like, yeah, like what? Because they said that they were friends of her to get in and talk with him. So we find out he's got this ancient book of course that's important. And they leave Sam is like, what the fuck is going on with you bro? Like, of another one of their it's like a lover's spat.
argument again and Sam makes note that Dean wouldn't even come within 100 feet of their mom's grave he's in there like aggressive with this poor man who just lost his daughter the way they look at each other in these fights I'm like it just looks like they're so in love having this this fight and they just
were still out when says shippers we know we still would ship Sam and Dean with ourselves not for sure. You know, but we're just saying we see where you guys are drawing your inspiration. Yeah,
definitely.
If you are when c'est shippers loving looks and
I don't know it's just I like as I'm watching it. I'm just like, it just makes me slow Crack. Crack me up at this point. Yeah. And Dean Dean like, I think he kind of is like, yeah, I get it. I'm being an asshole. Like, I'm sorry. Like just he's dealing with shit. Okay. The best he knows how
toxic masculinity.
Then we go. We are at Matt. Angela's boyfriend. Well, guess was ex boyfriend when we really met him I guess. And he is at home watching home movies of Angela and him together drinking beer, which was weird. Yeah. It was odd. He gets up to go get another beer sits down in. He pauses it on Angela's face and in her hair. You see like somebody that from behind him in the screen wearing a white dress. And as Angela looks just like Angela, and he whips around turns around and his throat gets slashed.
We get our fifth bloods BlueJ of the supernatural series
Mad he's dead. Split. Dean breaks. I mean, I don't know how he got the keys. But he breaks into Angela's dorm house or whatever it is. I assumed
he stole them while they were in their dad's office. Yeah, well hit her
sweet roommate is in like a tank top and underwear. walks out of a room sees Dean and like immediately like screams and what are you doing here? Which I was like, I would be like startled that there was a man there but then when I saw him, I'd be like, whoa, whoa. What's Who were you or what's happening? I more stunned with his looks than the stranger being in my house.
So you're saying like an intruder would scare you but if they were an attractive intruder, right,
yeah. I mean, hey, you know,
who knows what gonna happen? It's been a while.
D that he calms me down says that he's Angeles cousin. These guys are on it with their like, lies, whatever. They're supposed to be lying about who they are and whatnot. And the he sits down with her. She's a mess. She can't stop talking about how great her roommate was. She was just great. Great. I mean, she was great. I don't didn't really get much from her. I mean, she didn't tell him
about Matt. This should tell him that he cheated. No, she
told him what it was she she reveals that Matt is dead, which we thought you know, I would think that was a murder. But apparently everybody's saying he killed itself.
Slit his own throat. Yeah. As she straight up goes, who does that? And it's like no one. Nobody does that. Right. So why it was deemed a suicide. beyond me. Yeah. It is what it is.
And she mentioned that Matt was really distraught over Angela's death. He was and he was saying that he was seeing her everywhere. Yes, yes. Which we like we got the one glimpse of her seeing her right before she died. And we
do find out the Dean did still Angela's diary. While he was in there.
Yeah, because Dean comes back to the hotel motel room.
Oh, yeah. Already unexpected. So earlier, when LA was talking about the loving Lux, they were having a fight in their motel room and Dean, you know, it was like, Oh, thanks. Oh, yeah. He's I'm gonna go drink by myself by and he left. That's where we last saw Sam now we meet Find Sam again and Sam, I guess has gotten bored and has decided and he's long and he's alone and it's been a while. So to cure that boredom motels got some porn he can rent. He's got some Casa erotica,
yeah. But he's sitting on the edge of the bed, like close to
the gym. You would think he was watching a football game or something the way he was sitting. He's like leaned over on his knees like staring really seriously at the TV and it's like, ah, Casa erotica. Oh, oh, baby, but somehow Dean knew what he was doing. Oh,
I heard it because like Dean, like, open the door as Sam is like, trying to shut the TV off and it's totally obvious and awkward.
I think Dean even goes awkward when he walks in. Yeah.
And that's when da Diems start talking about what did he he's been asked he's like, oh, you know, you said that nothing's going on here but this guy suddenly magically killed or killed themselves. I mean, that's not something to look out for. And I can't remember what else but he was being a smartass. Just like giving it to Sam for not believe
Oh, was he was he giving it to say MLA
No, I can't I can't say that.
You and I were both like, oh, gosh, you guys have some aggression you need to work through clearly do Oh my goodness.
But he that's when he reveals he stole Angela's diary and has been reading in it and that's where they discover about Neil her good buddy Neil. The nice guy nice guy from the beginning that she he's just such a good friend. She's she's really appreciate this friendship. So then they go track kneel down and meals at his house and they present themselves as Grief counselors and Neil's like blood. This seems really strange. And it no
the college did this. And they're chatting with her him about you know what he thinks happened with Angela. You know, is he worried that Matt, you know, we heard Matt killed himself out of grief. And Neil's says no, Nana Nobrow it wasn't grief. It was guilt. And they're like, what? And he reveals that Matt, like Angela the night that Angela died? She had walked in on that with another girl. We don't know who yet. But we'll
find out. So the boys decide like if it's a vengeful spirit, then you know, like, in all the other ones they talked about. You gotta you gotta burn bones.
Yeah, we had a lot of vengeful spirits and C's. Yeah. And so And
Dean makes or not Dean Sam makes note that like, hey, it's not just going to be bones her funeral she like died just like a handful of days ago. That's gonna be like a body of rotting body that we're gonna burn. But Dean Dean's like, I'm sorry. We got to do this the job? Yeah. So once again, they're digging up a grave. These boys dig up a lot of grapes.
And they they've mastered it. It's a perfect rectangle.
So they dig it up. Fine. Get to the get to the casket open it. Angela's gone. She there. They're there. But they do see like she scratched like from the cloth or whatever on the top and scratched into the wood. Some symbols from or we assume it's her into her coffin from her dad's ancient Greek book, like the same symbols and deeds. Like I assumed Neil did it. See, I didn't see I was thinking it was her like she did it inside it. But
But it made me probably Claude through the cloth. Yeah. So that the symbols were exposed. Okay. But I think Neil, Neil did the civil we know ourselves. Yeah. But I was
thinking the wrong way. But anyway, yes, you're correct.
You never think wrong baby shoot
was Dean mentions, after he sees the symbols that he's seen those before because he was interrogating her poor father about his ancient Greek book that had the similar similar symbols on the front of it. And he looked through it to
this is when they got really aggressive. They like go into his house,
this poor man. I mean, detail. Dean is basically it like accusing him of doing this necromancy ritual from the ancient Greek book to bring her back. He's like, where is she like, kind of barging around the house. Just once again, being so aggressive, and sweet Sam, like looks over and notice like this man is probably like, Who are these people? These are not my daughter's friends. Like you
starting to call the call. Yeah. And Sam, like, runs over puts his hand on D and he's like, Dude, look at all these beautiful fresh plants, which if I was the dad, and I already had was in the situation, and this guy's coming at me asking me where my dead daughters is at in the house. And then this guy points have fresh flowers to calm him down and be like, you get the fuck out of my house. Get
help. Go away.
You guys sound insane. You're
beautiful, but you're crazy.
Yeah. So it's just it just seems so strange like With Sam did it and then he was like, Okay, we're out of here. Oh, that's actually when this is actually when they have that little spat where he's like getting on to him about being so mean him. And then they're loving looks and Sam says
there was two lines are weird man there were loving looks in the motel because I remember telling you like it's when test time yeah, they Yeah. And then they did it again outside the house we're saying was like you're scaring me.
Yeah. Our lives are weird man. Yeah. Somehow somehow Dean finds out that good old Neil is the professor's ta teaching assistant. So he has access to all of the professor's books, including the ancient Greek one. That's the star of the
show. The ancient Greek mythology, but yes, Untitled but it had a really cool symbol on the
front. Yeah, we also get a glimpse at Neil's house before the boys show up that he walks downstairs. Oh, yeah, who's sitting down there but Angela, in the white dress, and she just kind of comes on to him. It's just love you giving him kisses? This? Yeah. So we're like, okay, she's, she's here. It's real. And he's, I think he's questioning or like, did you leave the house? Like, did you go anywhere?
Like I said, Nice guys. They just want to control you. They just want to own you.
So he wanted her to stay in the house. Not go anywhere. But he's suspicious of her that Matt supposedly killed himself, but maybe not. And she's like, No, I've only been here waiting for you.
I'm your good little slave. Yeah, I'm your cut. That'll undead person.
The so the boys show up the kind of just barge in. And Dean's were. It's your great professors were here. Yeah. Which I thought was hilarious.
And that's when he has the gun. And yeah, Sam goes silver bullets. And he goes, won't do much but it'll rattle her like a change purse. Yeah,
it's enough to rat or like a change purse. Man, my goodness, these lines.
Oh, I'll like, well, the
boys go down to the area that Neil had housed. Angela, where he housed his zombie girl. Yes. Sam's too tall for the room.
So he's like, over blessum that Jared paddle. They're looking
around. She's not there. But they see Dean does see a air conditioner vent kind of smoothed over and only hanging by like one screw so she could have. She snuck out of there. Dean mentions we know, basically Matt probably didn't kill himself. But I do know that map. The person Angela walked in on Mount with was the roommate. So they're like, oh, shit, she's out. That's probably where she's headed. Then we're back in their dorm room or dorm house, whatever it is. They all look
like houses. I'm like, where are they? Where are they living in these nice houses. And they're college students?
Were like sorority houses. Yeah. Maybe they were in a sorority?
Maybe. But like we didn't see any of Neil's roommates. And the girls just was
the two of them. Well, Neil was a TA so that makes me think he was a graduate. So he probably was renting his own place. That's
right. Okay, anyway. Not important at their house. Do we know the roommates name?
Lindsey. Lindsey the whore.
Not nice. Lindsay is packing up. what I assume is Angeles stuff. I keep saying shit a lot.
She looks really sad. Yeah, of
course she That's all she looked like in this. So I feel bad for her though.
We all did things we regret in our early 20s and early 30s.
When we don't know what the situation was going down in there when she walked in, and maybe he was coming on to her. Like who knows, you know, she never really got a chance to chat it out with either of them
that were young. Yeah, all I'm saying. Oh, yeah, we all did stupid shit for like us. I was about to say I'm sure I'll do things I regret in my early 40s.
Anyway, our whole lives right now. Packing stuff up. She hears a noise. And Angela comes in hard. She's not messing
around, not dicking around, like doesn't even need to look at the scissors on the calendar before she's grabbing them. Like they were just conveniently placed and
Lindsey is terrified. I mean, she like shoves her. Lindsay's running away from her. She grabs those is biggest set of scissors, Casper scissors and just start going for Lindsay. She goes to stab her Lindsey ducks down and she hits the cones or the whatever.
It was like a bookshelf. Yeah, like a hutch.
So she whips around to run after Lindsey and she falls she trips and she's like face plants on the crowd. like dead are actually no, no, it was Lindsey. She Lindsey, like, fell it turned around and kicked her in the leg and you heard a crunch. Yeah. And all I could think was death, but death becomes her. I'm like, I was like, Oh, that legs is not gonna get fixed. No. But it wasn't that wasn't
addressed. But she, Lindsay, which you were like, I'm sorry, but if she had just fallen, I would be tearing out of that out of that house instead of trying to like check if she's okay. Right. I
told la I was like, I'm sorry. I love you so so much. But if you come back from the dead, and you come kick it in my front door, and you're trying to stab me with scissors and then you fall on said scissors and are laying there motionless. I'm out. Yeah,
yeah. No, of course. So she whips she flips. Angela over. Angela wakes up, pulls the scissors out.
It was it was a good shot. Yeah, it was a great shot and
starts to go for Lindsey and our boys. Say the day again. Come in. Dean shoots are for in the back. And I gotta
say, he was not taking very much care. But Lindsay was right there. Yeah, yeah, it could have been nice. could have gone bad. Yeah, but a good mod.
Angela, of course isn't dead, cuz she's already dead. So she takes off again through another window. She moves fast. She She's stealthy.
We were like this is not some walking dead zombie. You're right. That's what this is. This is what was the one with Brad Pitt?
Oh, interview with vampire?
No. Are you talking about vampires, zombies World War Z. Yay. Oh, fast.
That scared me. I couldn't handle fast. All right, they assume the boys assume you know, she probably headed back to Neil's. But Neil isn't at home. So they go and find him at the office. And Dean's confronting him. Like, where is she? And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. And he's just a good liar. Like he's just on point to lie. And he notices that behind him, or he finally fesses up in a he's like, she's at my house. So he's trying to
get them to go there. But D notices that a bunch of the plants behind him are dead, which has been throughout the episode. If they're dead, she's there. And he kind of makes a motion that she's like, in the closet. So Dean basically tells them like, you need to be smart about this be cool. We're gonna leave and go do this ritual at the ceremony. That's, you know, gonna put her back. I mean, it's a lie. But they're doing it for her sake to get her to hear that. And so Neil gets it got
the boys take off. He goes to the closet. And she's there. And I will
say in this scene. I'm not an actor. So I don't think about these things very often. But Jared battle Luckey had like, no lines when they were in this the entire time. And yet they kept showing him for some reason. And he would just be doing like Blue Steel face but not doing the lips, just the eyes. And I was like, what is the I'm thinking right now? Is he trying to intimidate Neal? What is what is happening is watching over Dean like, do
you knew about this? Yeah,
exactly. And I just had to think, you know, what else would he have done? So to whoever directed the episode or edited the episode, why did you keep cutting to Sam, who had no lines and nothing to do other than these facial expressions show that he's still there? Yeah, too. He's here. He supports Dean. Yeah. He's glaring down, Neil. He's got it. That was the only thing of this episode that I would critique is that that was a little odd. Yeah, it could have gone without
that. You could have just shown Dean and Neil. That's fine. Well, I know Sam is there, right?
I don't mind it. You know,
he's hot. It's fine. It's good. I take it back
now. Well, okay, so we're at the closet, she comes out, it'll comes out and she's trying to be your sweet self with Neil again, and
who's manipulating who?
Exactly Ooh,
the tables have turned and
she's like, we gotta go to the cemetery. We have to stop them. I you know, I'm I can't die, even though I'm already. I'm in person. And so Neil's like, okay, yeah, I'll let me go get the car. And, you know, I'll come back, which, that's what he said to her. So I don't know what the big deal was because when he gets to his car and he tries to unlock it, he drops his keys, pops up, and she's there and accusing him of trying to leave her, which I'm like,
that's a little crazy lady. Like he said he was going to get the car that's what he was doing. I mean, it wasn't what he was doing. Right. But if
he didn't technically lie, he was going to the car yeah.
And she wastes no time. super pissed. And snaps Neil's neck like I was just like holy like goodness,
good night meal.
I mean, what was she like alive because dead she's sure to get down to business.
I think they actually say earlier in the episode at some point that if you bring it back like it's not like the person Oh, well, that makes that makes a lot sense. Little practical man. Magic shout out there. Yeah. Oh,
I love it. The boys are our boys are at the cemetery you
always do that you always go the our boy
oh boy, I want to make sure you guys know who I'm talking about. They're at the cemetery pretending they're getting ready to do this ritual. And Sam, I think they hear something and Sam goes out.
Where did they get all those candles? Who knows? They're probably in their trunk.
They're probably keep them all the time. They're just prepared. Yeah, okay. They hear a noise and Sam goes out with his gun to figure out who it is. We don't know who does. But he's after it. And he runs into Angela. And she is just like, I'm a person, Dean. No. I'm a person, Sam. Uh, you know, it's just don't Don't kill me. Please, please. And good old Sam doesn't waste time either and shoots her in the head. Right? I was I was like, damn.
It was a cool shot. It
was a cool shot. And it does like hardly anything to her. It like paused her for a second. Yeah, we can see
where the bullet wounds are from where Dean shot her earlier. I think they show them when she's talking to kneel in the closet. Like he said they are slowing her down. But they aren't enough to kill her. Right.
And she attacks Sam. And she has him from like behind. She's about to snap his neck. Yeah. But Dean comes in, saves the day shoots her again. Actually, she I think she was so she starts to run and Dean follows after her and shoves her or does she fall or shoots?
He shoots or he keeps shooting her until she falls back.
Okay, that's right. And so she falls back into her casket and Dean who just stakes her right back into the coffin, which they read was what the way to get her to stay dead and buried.
Right what they had there. They were looking at two different journals. During this whole process. They were looking at daddy Winchester is journal and Angelus journal and daddy Winchester journal was saying, I think there were three different things. Silver Bullets, feed the heart to a dog or something like that and stake them back into their original casket are the three different ways to potentially kill a zombie. The silver bullets didn't cut it. They weren't going to feed her
heart to a dog. I guess they weren't going to try that one. But luckily, the third one of staking her into her casket seemed to do the trick. Yeah.
So they fell in the grave. And the next morning, they're kind of walking off and Sam does give Dean some kudos that the ritual idea to kind of bait her to get to the cemetery was good idea.
He didn't like that he was the bait though.
Yeah, he was like, but did we have to use the as bait? And he's like, Well, I just thought, you know, she has terrible taste in men clearly, so she'd like you better. Not very nice, Dean. As they're leaving the cemetery, Dean does kind of look back and look directly at their mother's grave. And Sam asks him if he wants to, you know, take a little more time there. And Dean says no, and we see them drive off. But a little while later, Dean pulls over on the side of the road and gets out. And Sam
follows them. And they have another kind of heart to heart where Dean just kind of confesses that, you know, dad's dad died. It's my fault. You know, dad's dead because it may and Sam's like we don't know that for sure. And Dean's like I mean, come on. I was I wasn't supposed to come back. I should be dead. I should have stayed stay that way.
What she's kind of been saying that the horror episode. What's dead should stay dead. What's dead should stay dead. Yeah. Now we kind of find out why he's been repeating that. Yeah, he feels guilty.
And he starts to tear up and just basically says to Sam, like, what could you possibly say to make that right like that I died for our dad, or our dad died for, for me to live. Kind of a sad ending. I mean, we really are kind of going through like a catharsis with Dean and this grief and everything. So yeah, slowly, he's letting it out and going through it. So
I'm happy he's finally opening up to Sam. Yes, me too. Last week, he was opening up to Gordon who? Not the healthiest of individuals. Yeah. So I'm happy that by the end of this episode, that he's actually feeling comfortable opening up more. Yeah. I liked it. I thought this was a fun episode.
It was it was good. There's Yeah, no, Gore. No.
The glorious thing was the wreck at the beginning. Yeah, even the blood splooge we got whenever the boyfriend got his throat slit was minimal. Yeah, it was minimal ejaculation on minimal onto the TV screen there. into the lore. I got a little bit of information. Whenever I Googled are zombies real? Oh, we're dealing with we're dealing with just a little bit. We're dealing with zombies
this episode. And for those of you who have been listening to us for a while, you know that for our lore, we're trying to find out what in reality spurred these urban legends or supernatural folklore whatever. I did get an article from medical news today that in the 1990s, Dr shabbiness Joy yawn we're gonna go with that. And Professor Roland Littlewood decided to investigate whether Haitians zombies reanimated, but mindless humans were a real
possibility. So in 1997, the two published a study paper in the Lancet trusted source in which they analyzed the cases of three individuals from Haiti, whose communities had identified them as zombies. One was a 30 year old woman who had allegedly quickly died after having fallen ill. Her family recognized her walking about as a quote unquote zombie three years after her death. Oh, another was a young man who had quote unquote, died at 18 and reemerged after another 18 years at a cockfight.
Okay, I feel like these are doppelgangers. The final case study concerned another woman who had died at 18 but was spotted again as a zombie 13 years after this event, the two of them examined the three zombies and found they had not been the victims of an evil spell. Instead, medical reasons could explain their zombification the first zombie actually had catatonic schizophrenia, a rare condition that makes the person act as though they are a walking in a
stupor. The second person had experienced brain damage and also had epilepsy, while the third appeared merely to have a learning disability. Sounds like these people are real judgy, doesn't it? The researchers wrote in their paper, people with a chronic schizophrenic illness, brain damage or learning disability are not uncommonly met with wandering in Haiti. And they would be particularly likely to be identified as lacking volition and memory, which are characteristics of a zombie.
I mean, what about their death? These suppose the deaths not addressed,
okay? Medical News Today just said just skip right past that stuff. That's not important god. Okay. There's also a specific site to psychiatric disorder called Koh tarde syndrome that can cause people to act like zombies. This is because they are under the delusion that they are dead or decomposing. It remains unclear just how prevalent this condition is, but research suggests that it is a rare occurrence. It's documented cases of people with Qatar's syndrome are unsettling.
Nevertheless, one case study reports the situation of a 53 year old woman who was complaining that she was dead, smelled like rotting flesh, and wanted to be taken to a morgue so that she could be with other dead people. Yikes. Another trusted source speaks of a 65 year old man who had developed a belief that his organs including his brain had stopped working, and that even the house in which he lived was slowly but steadily falling apart. So creditcards syndrome sounds pretty fucking
scary. Yeah, at some point, the man attempted to take his own life. Researchers report that his suicide note revealed that he wanted to kill himself, as he feared spreading a deadly infection to the villagers who resultantly might suffer from cancer. So that was the main thing I found when I Googled if zombies are real. Okay. Some other things that kind of popped up was that there are some diseases that could potentially cause humans to act zombie like,
you know, yeah. And there's also some fungi, mainly dealing with bugs, where course a bug can get infected with a fungus and the fungus takes over the bugs brain and will control them, make them go up high and get to Sun so the fungus can have ideal conditions to grow and basically, slowly kill the animal. Or that there's wasps that will lay there la vie in bugs and somehow control the bugs.
Oh my god.
So it'll be like they're a little incubator. Okay. So that's the lore.
I still want to know about the suppose.
There's just like, No, yeah, there were schizophrenic. Like, okay, how did they come back from the test? Actually, 18 years
later? Yeah. And I like that. It's like, it's years later. It's not like oh, last week.
So the internet man. Yeah, both a gift and a curse for Oh my god. Yeah. Remember, like, if I could have so part of the inspiration for this show? Is that at all I hear things on TV or on the radio or whatever and be like, Oh, what's that? Let me Google that real quick. sure a lot of people do that. And sometimes that has consequences. Oh, yes. And so I share those consequences with my friends. Like I was watching an episode of Futurama, where there was these alternate universes
being shared. And in this alternate universe, all the characters from Futurama were actually animals for some reason. And the professor was a turtle, fry. And Futurama was a bird. And I can't remember the storyline, but for some reason, bird Fry said something about the professor turtle having a weird penis. And I was like, what's that about? So I googled was a turtle penis look like? Don't do it, y'all. Yeah, it's
not pleasant.
I shared it with all my friends. I was like, if I have to know this, you guys do too. But for everybody else. Don't Don't do it. I wouldn't. Anyway, to close it out. Have a quote from Dean Dean said Damn, that dead chick can run. She could she she was West. Yes, sure. Thank you for listening to denim wrapped nightmares.
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