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The episode delves into the latest escalation between Iran and Israel, examining US attempts at de-escalation and the humanitarian impact in Lebanon and Gaza. Domestically, it explores controversies surrounding President Trump, including a lawsuit over a White House UFC event, his media interactions, and critical reports on immigrant detention centers. A significant portion is dedicated to the Maine Senate race, analyzing progressive candidate Graham Platner's controversial past against his populist platform, and discussing voter perspectives and the National Organization for Women's endorsement of Governor Janet Mills. Finally, it unpacks Peru's closely contested presidential election and the broader context of Trump's aggressive foreign policy and its impact on Latin America, including a historical look at liberation theology and the Pope's connections to the region.

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Democracy Now! 2026-06-08 Monday
  • Headlines for June 08, 2026
  • Iran Warns Israel over Escalating Attacks on Lebanon After Iran, Israel Exchange Strikes: Trita Parsi
  • Graham Platner's Billionaire-Bashing Message Resonates in Maine Senate Race, Despite Controversies
  • Peru Votes for President Amid Trump's "Unprecedented Program of Aggression" Against Leftists in Region

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Intro / Opening

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Shooting after the two sides at the end. Stop attacks for now. We'll speak to Trita Parsi of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. Then to make

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and Marine Veterans.

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Republican Senator Progressive With many voters,

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The campaign has faced numerous controversies. We'll get response from the heads of NOW, the National Organization for Women, and the group Community Change.

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In keeping with our democratic commitment. Fulfilled our responsibility, and I urge all our fellow citizens to vote responsibly to save Peru and strengthen democracy. Let us respect the free vote and have the capacity to And to move Peru for the first time.

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We'll go to Peru. Surprise-winning historian Greg Grandit.

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Global Conflicts and Geopolitical Tensions

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The War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman. Iran and Israel exchange fire overnight in the most serious escalation of fighting since a U.S. Iranian so-called truce was declared in April. Just this morning, Iran said it's halting its attacks on Israel, saying, quote, if the aggressions and acts of mischief continue. Including in southern Lebanon, much more severe and crushing actions than before will follow.

Earlier Iran had launched a wave of missiles at northern Israel, claiming it was in response to Israeli attacks near Beirut on Sunday. Israel responded with attacks on Iran with explosions reported in Tehran, Tabriz, and Isfahah. The Israeli army also confirmed it struck a petrochemical plant in Mashar.

Israel attacked Iran. Despite President Trump telling Axios News on Sunday, he planned to call Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to urge him not to respond to the first wave of Iranian missiles. President Trump also told the Financial Times. Netanyahu had no choice but to accept a deal with Iran, saying quote, I call all the shots, he doesn't call the shots, Trump said.

This morning, President Trump posted on Truth Social, quote, Israel and Iran must immediately stop shooting, unquote. This after the Pentagon's DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, recently raised the counterintelligence threat assessment for Israel to critical. Amidst growing concerns, Israeli spy agencies are eavesdropping on American negotiators working on a ceasefire deal with Iran.

Israeli airstrikes hit Beirut's suburbs on Sunday despite a US brokered ceasefire that was renewed just days earlier. On Saturday, Israeli attacks across southern Lebanon killed at least ten people, including a brigadier general, a captain, and a Lebanese soldier. Since March, Israeli attacks have killed more than thirty-five hundred people and displaced over a fifth of Lebanon's population.

In Gaza. At least seven Palestinians were killed and fifteen others injured on Saturday when Israel's military bombed a large tent encampment in the heart of Gaza City. Children were among the dead and wounded. On Sunday, an Israeli strike on a police station on a vehicle killed at least nine people and wounded twenty others. The attacks come despite last October's US brokered ceasefire. Since then, Israeli attacks have killed about nine hundred and fifty Palestinians.

This is Abdul Salam Judah, the uncle of a Palestinian killed in an Israeli strike over the weekend.

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We are ordinary citizens, we are looking for and asking for peace. We are neither calling for war nor destruction nor anything else. We are people who believe in a just peace.

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In Ukraine, a Russian drone struck a nuclear fuel storage facility inside the Chernobyl exclusion zone Sunday, heavily damaging a fuel reception building close to where large amounts of nuclear material are stored. Ukrainian officials say radiation levels remain within normal range and no injuries were reported. The IAEA called the strike deeply concerning and said inspectors would visit the site.

Meanwhile, in the Zaporita region, Russian guided bombs hit a public transit stop in Balabin, killing three civilians and wounding three others. This is the principal of a local school.

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A guided bomb was dropped near the education institution. The explosion was very powerful as there were casualties. The school was severely damaged.

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In France, U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Heggsess. Used a D Day anniversary ceremony at the American Military Cemetery in Normandy to attack European immigration policy, saying the continent is facing a new invasion.

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Sadly, today different European beaches are stormed by different dangerous ideologies.

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Boats.

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And men arrive. When will European capitals do something about that invasion?

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Or is it too late?

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I pray not and I believe not.

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This comes as Pope Leo condemned rising European military spending to its highest level since the end of the Cold War, calling it a betrayal of diplomacy.

US Politics, Media, and Immigration Issues

A federal lawsuit filed Saturday is seeking to block an ultimate fighting championship UFC event scheduled for june fourteenth. On the White House South Lawn, which happens to be President Trump's eightieth birthday, the White House's brand new UFC event is part of the United States two hundred fiftieth anniversary celebration.

The suit, brought by the Public Integrity Project on behalf of a Vietnam War veteran and a civic activist, argues the UFC fights would financially benefit President Trump and UFC President Dana White. through promotional opportunities and stockholdings. The lawsuit cites a report that Trump bought fifty thousand dollars in stock.

In UFC's parent company. It also argues the Trump administration's approval violated National Park Service regulations prohibiting commercial sporting events on specific federal parklands. that Congress did not authorize the construction of a towering six hundred ton steel arch on the South Lawn, and that no environmental review was conducted.

President Trump stormed out of an interview with NBC News' Kristin Welker Friday after she questioned him about compensating the January sixth insurrectionists who attack police. As well as whether he had any evidence for rigged elections, Trump had agreed to record the sit-down interview for Meet the Press ahead of an event in Wisconsin.

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In more media news, Scott Pelley, the sixty minutes anchor recently fired by CBS News, has accused editor in chief Barry Weiss of distorting news coverage to support false narratives being pushed by the Trump administration. In an interview with the New York Times, Pelle cited Weiss's intervention in a sixty minute segment on the killing of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis last January by a masked border patrol officer.

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Harry Weiss sends an email to my boss, Tanya Simon. Two of the things in the email include Can we make the protesters look more violent? Now, I'm paraphrasing, I don't have the quote, but that's what was communicated to me. And the other thing was Renee Good's car, you need to describe her as driving toward the officer.

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New Jersey, Governor Mikey Sherrill, has more than doubled New Jersey funding for a program that provides free legal services for low income immigrants facing deportation. She also announced a rapid legal response initiative that'll provide immediate representation to immigrants jailed at Delaney Hall. the geo groups for profit Ice Jail and Newark. At least ninety people have been arrested at protests outside Delaney Hole over the past two weeks as prisoners inside

Hold a hunger and labor strike to protest inhumane conditions while demanding their freedom. One letter from a prisoner dated May 31st describes Medical neglect, undrinkable water, expired and rancid food, unusable toilets and poor ventilation. The prisoner writes, quote, they constantly threaten to deport us, transfer us to punishment units, and move us from one detention center to another.

They take photos of us in the dormitories without our consent and tell us that we have no rights here, unquote. Meanwhile, New Jersey prosecutors have charged an Essex County police sergeant with stealing about ten thousand dollars worth of equipment from reporter Angelina Kassana. The photojournalist dropped her camera bag and had to be hospitalized after she was attacked by police while covering a protest at Delaney Hall in May.

In California, three prisoners at a for-profit ice jail in Adelanto were transferred to solitary confinement after they met last week with members of Congress to discuss their hunger stress. Prisoners launched the FAST in May to protest medical neglect, rancid food in inhumane conditions. Democratic congressmember Judy Chu of Pasadena told the Southern California newsgroup she was horrified.

To hear about retaliation faced by the three men who she and Congress members Pete Aguilar and Jimmy Gomez visited last Monday. She said, quote, the fact that they're being punished for speaking out about these conditions only underscores the cruelty and corrupt management of facility that's profiting off of their suffering, unquote.

In Ohio, gunfire erupted Saturday afternoon at a street festival in Toledo, wounding twelve people. The victims range in age from fourteen to sixty one. Authorities say a search for the shooters is ongoing.

Albania Resort and Environmental Warnings

And the European Commission has warned Albania's government against violating the EU's environmental rules. after members of President Trump's family proposed building a massive luxury resort on an ecologically sensitive stress David Senra, about how she had discovered a private island along a stretch of Albanian coastline while traveling aboard a yacht with her husband, Jared Kushner.

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Friend's boat and we stopped for a swim. Effectively that's how we found it. We swam to the islands, we went on a hike barefoot all the way up to the top and we were just captivated.

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The area is part of a protected wildlife reserve that's home to seals, flamingos, and turtle nesting sites. Political reports officials in Brussels have warned failure to protect the region could jeopardize Albania's bid to join the European Union. On Saturday, thousands of protesters marched through Albania's capital, Tirana, to oppose the luxury resort and called on Prime Minister Eddie Rama to resign.

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I don't want it to be sold to somebody else. It's dirty money. They discovered this island. What do you mean? It's been discovered. It's always.

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And those are some of the headlines. This is Democracy Now. Democracy Now dot org, the War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman.

Iran-Israel Escalation: Expert Analysis

In the most serious escalation since the US Iranian so-called truce was reached in April, Iran and Israel exchanged fire overnight. Iran launched a wave of missiles at northern Israel, saying it was in response to Israeli attacks near Beirut on Sunday. Israel responded with attacks on several areas of Iran, including the capital Tehran. Earlier today, Iran announced its halting strikes on Israel, but warned it'll carry out a more severe response if Israel continues to attack Lebanon.

Israel attacked Iran despite President Trump telling Axios on Sunday that he planned to call Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to urge him not to respond to the first wave of Iranian missiles. Iranian foreign ministry spokesperson Ismail Baray spoke in Tehran earlier today.

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We're joined now by Trita Parsi, Executive Vice President of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, author of several books, including Losing an Enemy, Obama, Iran and the Triumph of Diplomacy, his latest piece For responsible statecraft is Iran strikes Israel, proving it will use hard power on behalf of Lebanon.

Why don't you elaborate on that? Were you surprised by this major violation of the so called ceasefire between the US and Iran and what this says about how much power President Trump has over Netanyahu. He said he warned him not to do this, not to respond to Iran attacking Israel for Israel attacking Lebanon.

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Sp good to be with you. I was not surprised by the Iranian attack on Israel. In fact, a couple of days ago. uh uh just before Trump had his first colorful conversation with Netanyahu, the Iranians had already signalled that they were about to strike Israel. There were probably forty five to uh sixty minutes away of doing so.

Uh that's when Trump intervened and the situation was diffused. So the fact that the Iranians were going to uh uh enforce their red line in Lebanon, I don't think was a surprise, and I think the US government took it seriously as well. What is perhaps a bit surprising is the immediate reaction that Trump had and of course then that the Israelis defied Trump's expressed wishes.

And and where that goes from now we will have to see, but it's important to understand that what the Iranians were trying to do and what really worries these is that they were trying to extend their deterrence. They had already established their own deterrence in the sense that any attack on Iran clearly would be retaliated against.

But now they were trying to say that even if the Israelis were to attack Lebanon, southern Lebanon, they would also face a re Iranian retaliation, which would be the first time in a very long time that a major power p would put real hard power behind uh a a warning or a deterrent against an attack by Israel on a third country.

Uh and this is part of what uh the Israelis are worried about because if it suddenly means that they can no longer have that complete maneuverability in in Lebanon and Gaza and elsewhere that they enjoy, that they are enjoying because the West is more and uh less uh enabling that to happen, they're politically defending it, etcetera. And for the last couple of decades it has not been challenged by any regional state in a sincere or or serious way.

This appears to have been an attempt by the Iranians to uh challenge that, to establish this extended deterrence, and this is part of the reason why the Israelis have acted so uh uh aggressively against this attempt, as they call it, to establish a new equation in the region.

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I mean it's interesting.

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dramatically minimise Israel's maneuverability if it were to stab.

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So Trump has spoken to Netanyahu. It's interesting that it's Iran first that says they're not going to attack Israel if Israel doesn't attack again Iran or I presume Lebanon. And is this Iran saying you can't have a side agreement that's being negotiated in Washington that excludes Hezbollah between um Israel and Lebanon. It is part of the ceasefire, so called ceasefire with Iran.

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The Iranians have from the outset said that if there is to be a ceasefire and an end to the war between the US and Iran, then it has to be region wide, meaning that it has to encompass Israel as well. If it doesn't, if Israel is unrestrained, it will have an ability to restart the war and the ability to drag the US back into the war. Since the objective is to end the war and to end it in a durable manner.

uh making sure that the Israelis cannot have the freedom of starting the war again or bombing Lebanon or other places has to be included. That is the Iranian perspective. The question is if now when they are signaling that they're willing to back off

Are they doing so in order to put pressure on the US to now deal with Israel? Or are they doing so because they're regretting their attack and realizing that the Israelis would strike at them much harder? It it remains to be seen exactly what the calculation is, but I don't think that the Iranian side is going to back off from its demand that any end to the war has to be region wide and has to include Lebanon and Israel as well.

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Talking about a ceasefire in Gaza and a ceasefire in Lebanon, can we still use that term or we should we be saying increase fire? I mean we're talking about thousands of Palestinians and Lebanese dying since this so called truce in both areas.

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These so called ceasefires that have been established in Gaza or in uh Lebanon are exactly what the region doesn't want, exactly what the Iranians at this point seem to be uh rallying against because they're completely one sided, they're Swiss cheeses of a ceasefire.

and and fundamentally unacceptable and what their worry is, is that the US would p put some pressure on the Israelis to ceasefire and this ceasefire will only last a couple of days or so and then slowly but surely the Israelis would once again restart attacks against whether it is uh Lebanon or whether it is Gaza, and they don't want to see a scenario of that kind be repeated. And as a result, uh they're now using some of their hard power to essentially signal

that any ceasefire, any end of the deal has to be complete. Otherwise it will be a complete war instead of this. uh kind of shameful s situation you have right now in which we called it a ceasefire, but more than three thousand five hundred Lebanese have been killed in that so called ceasefire.

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So what do you expect to happen at this point? I mean, while President Trump has said he could be Prime Minister of Israel, um uh in fact, I think that's a good thing How much sway does President Trump have over Netanyahu? I mean, can Netanyahu continue attacking Iran if Trump doesn't want him to, given the amount of weapons the US gives and can withhold from Israel.

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Without a doubt, just a phone call or some angry quotes to the media is not gonna be enough. to get uh Netanyahu and Israel to back down. If Trump is serious about restraining the Israelis, it has to be uh uh uh combined with as restriction. of arms sales, sharing of intelligence, and other measures that enable the Israelis to conduct these attacks in the first place. I suspect that the Trump administration's calculation, however, is They do not want to have that massive fight with Israel.

about a a real restraint on them unless they have a deal with Iran. It is not worth it for them to take a gamble and have that big fight with Israel in the hope of getting a deal with Iran. Because then they may end up spending all of that political capital fighting the Israelis and still not get a deal with Ibar.

So I think the administration's position is that they will only do so if there is a deal with Iran, and the Iranian position is that there won't be a deal with Iran unless you prove your ability to restrain the Israelis.

Maine Senate Race: Platner's Controversies

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Trita Parsi, want to thank you for being with us, Executive Vice President of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. We'll link to your latest piece, Iran Strikes Israel, proving it will use hard power on behalf of Lebanon. Coming up, we go to Maine. To look at the campaign and controversies around Graham Plattner, the Oysterman, Marine vet, progressive Democrat, who's seeking to unseat the Republican main senator Susan Collins. Stay with us.

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Sophia Shirai. This is Democracy Now, democracynow.org. I'm Amy Goodman. Voters in Maine are heading to the polls Tuesday for a closely watched primary that could help determine whether Democrats retake control of the U.S. Senate.

On the Republican side, Susan Collins is running unopposed as she seeks her sixth term in the Senate. On the Democratic side, forty one year old Oysterman and Marine Vett Graham Platner has led the polls for months running as a progressive populist backed by Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, Congressman Rokana, and others. On the campaign trail, Plattiners repeatedly targeted the bil billionaire class and called for a wealth tax, Medicare for all, and other progressive policies.

In late April, Maine's Democratic governor Janet Mills suspended her Senate campaign after polls showed Plattner easily beating her in the primary. But Governor Mills never officially withdrew, and her name remains on the ballot. Since launching his campaign, Plattner has faced numerous controversies, many stemming from his actions in the years after returning from fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, a time when he says he was suffering from PTSD.

post traumatic stress disorder and was self-medicating with alcohol. The initial controversies focused on old posts Platner made on Reddit and on tattoo on his chest that resembled a Nazi symbol. Platner says he got the tattoo while on military leave in Croatia twenty years ago and is denied knowing about the design's association with Nazis. He's apologized for the social media post, saying they were written at, quote, a time in my life where I was struggling deeply, unquote.

In recent weeks, two more scandals emerged. First, it was revealed he'd sent sexually explicit text messages to at least six women after getting married in twenty twenty three. Then the New York Times published an article headlined Several Women Who Dated Graham Platner recall unsettling behavior, unquote. On Thursday, Plattner interviewed by Chris Hayes on MS Now said this.

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There are some allegations in this piece that I just want to be kind of unequivocal about are simply not true. Um, anything alleging physicality, anything alleging that I knew what my tattoo was, these are the statements of someone who's politically motivated. In this piece there's a lot about my struggling, not being a good boyfriend.

certainly self medicating with alcohol and I've been very upfront since the beginning of this campaign. That that was a pretty dark period of my life after I come came back from my combat service and that's what that combat serv that's what that kind of life looks like. And uh and so there are things in this that I absolutely uh will take responsibility for and and have been speaking about openly for months now. Um but those serious allegations are just not true.

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You did not grab her by the wrist, you did not put your hands on her shoulders, you did not push her into a room that you closed the door on. She's lying about that is what you're saying.

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Yes, that is not true.

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On Friday, Graham Platner campaigned in Bar Harbor, Maine, where he took aim at the nation's billionaires.

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In the time in my life where that hard work ceased being enough, we have also watched the largest transfer of wealth from the working class to the ruling class in the history of this nation. nineteen ninety there were fewer than eighty billionaires in the United States. Today there are over nine hundred. I ask you, when you look around, do you see a state of Maine that is ten times wealthier than nineteen ninety? Do we have ten times the schools? Ten times the hospitals?

Do we have ten times the free time? No. In fact, we have less. Fewer schools. Fewer hospitals. Our paychecks run out earlier in the month. And we have less time'cause everybody's working harder.

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Democratic congressman Rokana also spoke at the Graham Platner Bar Harbor rally on Friday. On Sunday, He appeared on CVS's Facination as was questioned about Platiner by host Margaret Brennan.

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Can he survive another scandal? You have five months here.

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Well, it depends what. I'm not you know, I mean I i obviously if there was any evidence that comes out that there is actual domestic violence or assault, I have zero tolerance for that.

I led the fight against the Epstein class, which has been a cover-up for sexual abuse with Thomas Massey. I've been at the uh forefront of championing uh women's rights and rights of survivors. But here you have a case of someone who had a dark chapter in his life, who was in toxic relationships, was ashamed about it, who served this country, uh, and the main voters are saying, look, let's give him some grace.

Uh and his focus is stopping these wars and it's getting national health insurance and it's taking on economic uh inequality.

NOW's Stance on Maine Primary

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To talk more about Graham Platiner's run for the Senate, we'll be joined by two guests. In a moment we'll go to Portland, Maine to speak with the anti racist organizer Shay Stuart Boulay. But first we're joined by Kim Villanueva, the national president of the National Organization for Women PAC. Kim, thanks so much for being with us.

Talk about the race, what you're concerned about, and why you're telling people to vote for Governor Mills who actually while she didn't pull out of the Senate race, she did suspend her campaign and even with these controversies didn't re enter with rallies like Platiner is having right now.

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Right. Well we endorsed Governor Mills very early in the race because of her record on women's rights and women's issues and the fact that she has shown leadership over time. She's been a district attorney. uh attorney general and a governor and we feel that her record is the best and her leadership is the best to represent women.

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So talk about your concerns with um with Graham Plattner right now. Uh you heard for example Rokana saying um he's the leader on demanding respect for the women in the case of Epstein and the release of the Epstein files. Uh but he is supporting Platner right now for his progressive position.

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Right. Well we've also worked with Representative Khan on the Epstein files and certainly d uh defending the survivors of sexual violence and sexual abuse. Uh in this situation, just because someone holds a progressive policy position doesn't excuse them for making or um holding harmful views against women. Hate speech is hate speech and so that's what now is about. We call out

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statements against women, we want women to res we want people to respect women. We have a president who thinks it's okay to uh make nasty comments about women and make fun of women. And so when that happens we call it out.

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The question uh one of the questions is who can beat the Republican Susan Collins who supported, for example, um the nomination of and the confirmation of uh Brett Kavanaugh as Supreme Court Justice. Let me go to a clip right now. This is Graham Platner speaking in Bar Harbor.

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Powerful political systems in the history of the world. It is a system of billionaires in special interests. It is a system of corrupted politicians like Susan Collins. Susan Collins, who for years has given us some charade that she's a moderate. That she stands up against her party. That she cares about her constituents more than she cares about those that donate money to her. We see through the charade and we see through it because of what she does. She voted to confirm Brett Kavanaugh.

Who before he was busy dismantling the Voting Rights Act and taking voting rights away from black Southerners, he was busy getting down to the work he went there for, which was dismantling a woman's right to choose. And she told us, she told us that that was settled law. She looked him in the eyes and he told her that he would never do such a thing. Well, either she lied to us or she's a fool. Either way, you shouldn't be a United States Senator from the state of Maine.

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So that is, um, Graham Plattener. Are you concerned that now's position um could help elect Susan Collins?

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Well, Nell endorsed Governor Mills very early in the race because of her record. And the purpose of an endorsement is to lead, not to follow. So we stand by that endorsement and feel that she's is still the best candidate on the ballot. Uh in terms of who's going to take on Trump and the establishment and the systems of oppression, we think that it's Janet Mills.

She's already shown that she has taken on Trump. When he threatened to pull federal funding from Maine, she looked him in the eye and said, I'll see you in court. So that's leadership under pressure. We think that she's the best one to take on the uh the systems that are hurting American families and American women.

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She did stand up against um Trump uh pulling federal funds from Maine over uh trans athletes, support for trans athletes. Um but right now, uh even as Governor Mills said she hasn't pulled out of the race, she only suspended it. It's not as if she is campaigning. Uh what will that mean in the general election if she takes the position she does and Susan Collins vigorously campaigns?

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Well, I think that by winning the primary will invigorate the campaign and certainly people will come out and want to support anyone who's gonna take on Trump and anyone who's gonna help women, children, families. I mean, we're all suffering under the Trump regime. We have to do something. And we think that Jadam Mills is the best person to lead us to do that.

Maine Voters' Perspective on Graham Platner

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Kim Villanueva, we want to thank you for being with us, national president of the National Organization for Women Pass. To talk more about the Maine primary and Graham Platner's campaign, we go now to Pete. This island off of Portland, Maine, where we're joined by the longtime anti racism organizer Shay Stewart Boulay, the Executive Director of Community Change Inc.

Shay, thanks so much for being with us. Um a lot has come out on Graham Platner from the tattoo uh that he has emblazoned on his chest. to um the most recent New York Times expose on some of the women uh he was romantically involved with uh questioning his behavior. Can you talk about your thoughts as Graham Pratner just had a major rally in Portland?

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Yes, I I can. Good morning and thank you, Amy, for having me. Um I have so many thoughts. Uh as someone who has been following the Platinum campaign really since that first day when that first video was released. and was very cautiously enthusiastic perhaps about him, who then after the initial revelations in October,

uh of the Reddit Post and the uh the tattoo became quite skeptical. Um it was after then that I actually met up with Graham and we had a conversation and over the course of the probably last several months we've had a series of uh conversations and observations and I think what's interesting about this race and about Graham is that um In Maine, f I would say a lot of people have a very different perspective of him than what the national media is showing. Um I think that

despite his controversies, he is really speaking to the people of Maine at this moment. Um as I've uh been writing and I wrote recently, uh it is estimated that one and two Mainers are struggling to make ends meet.

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Um

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Nationally I think people think of Maine as this, you know, it it's nicknamed Vacation Land. So people think that everybody here is probably quite prosperous and actually uh that's the opposite. It's a it's a rural state, it's a state that uh doesn't have a lot of resources. It's a state where honestly it is not uncommon for people to work two or three jobs, uh seasonal jobs.

And so I think that, you know, one of the reasons people have continued to support Plattener despite these controversies is because for the first time in a long time, he makes people feel heard. Um I only recently heard him speak to an audience. Um my because my interactions with him had been primarily one-on-one, um I had heard about how he when he speaks to a crowd, uh, but I have to say it was really interesting to experience.

uh hearing him and seeing more importantly the audience, how enthusiastic they were. At the same time, um I live on Peaks Island, Maine. It's a predominantly very white little uh enclave island here. Um we have a few folks of color and it's a you know community that people would probably think of of as fairly prosperous and yet he was really connecting with them. Um I think as a person he is absolutely complicated.

And messy. There is no no getting around that. He's a very uh complicated, messy individual who uh I think if these were more normal times, I think the campaign would have tanked probably several scandals ago. Uh but I think that given the current reality of the country we're running in with the folks running in it, uh people are feeling a little bit more generous in forgiving uh his personal situations.

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Let's hear Graham Plattner speaking uh last night in Portland.

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We need to return to the politics of dreaming big. Woo! Because the challenges we face today, we can no longer afford to play around on the margins. We've been doing that, and it has failed us. Ви нідіверса хелт карин з кантри, медикарфорол.

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We need universal child care. We need a public education system that provides high quality education to every young American from kindergarten all the way through higher ed and trade schools. And we need a foreign policy. That prioritizes international institutions and international law. over the well being of corporate interest.

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So that's Graham Plattner speaking last night in Portland. If you can talk about um the uh the allegations of several women who he dated, one of them being um a Republican operative. I mean she says it herself she runs uh ladies for Kavanaugh. now the Supreme Court justice, the significance of this and what the allegations are, and those who say it's not enough to say he suffers from PTSD.

Certainly Rokana talked about the damages of war and K Platner himself talks about what it means that war is violence and how veterans have suffered. But that you have to take responsibility for how you act afterwards.

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Yes, yes, you do. Um, like many folks I you know, I read the piece in the New York Times a few minutes after it dropped and uh I will say I really struggled initially with what I was reading. Um, I think for me I believe in restorative justice, the nature of the work that I do just uh within the the the world of anti racism work uh allows for Restorative justice. And so life is not an either, either or, it's more of a both and and really asking for myself.

Do we believe do I believe that people even deserve a second chance? Um, first and foremost, these are serious allegations. Uh I don't think there's no excuse for the harm that he caused these women. I think that if I were to say one thing, I would love to hear him speak more about ways in which um he can make amends to the women he's harmed.

Uh he needs to be held accountable to those women. At the same time we find ourselves in this very, very awkward situation in the state of Maine and really in the state of the country. Uh eighteen months into the second term of Trump, we ha have watched our country turn upside down in ways that we have never imagined. And so we find ourselves with in the case of the main Senate race,

Uh we have a candidate who most certainly inspires people. Uh I know when I went to his uh public event here on Peaks I was I I saw young folks of color who had taken the ferry over just to hear him speak. Um we also uh and I'm sorry, I just completely lost my thought there. Um I think that we have to reckon with the reality of war and violence. Um I was thinking about this morning, knowing that, you know, this would probably be a part of the conversation.

In some ways I see platiner as sort of the result of this country. Um that we send people to war, they come back and then we don't do a lot for those people. But more than that, when we talk about violence, in this case there is personal violence, but then we also have state violence. We have someone who went to war

suffering from the effects of state violence, who has now inflicted violence upon folks personally. And so it really becomes a very messy situation in terms of how do we reckon with that? Uh how do we figure out how to go forward? I think I think in this moment what's hard is for people t to gather and to to understand and it must certainly is something that I've struggled with given everything that we've seen going on in this country.

Um is the fact that historically we've expected our politicians, we've held them to a certain standard. We've expected certain behavior. Um and I would say, you know, in the years since Trump, all of that has been turned upside down. I think over on the left, I think. we've held ourselves to a standard that we don't want to be anything like those folks

And so here we have this person who is a messy walking contradiction. On the one hand, he has values in terms of what he's putting out there that speaks to us, but his personal life is messy. Um so it's one of those what do we do? And in this moment I ask myself, do we discard him? Um I know your previous guest spoke a lot of to um his opponent, Janet Mills, who suspended her campaign and is now, you know, last week m reminded us all that she is still on the ballot.

And I know as a maner, as a manner of color, uh I don't see her track record as being quite as rosy as somebody on a national level might. Um just a couple of things I wanted to mention. Just recently she vetoed LD uh 1911 this year, which was the Clean Slate Law, which really would have given folks with a criminal background in certain cases a second chance.

Uh there was also the other veto that she did the uh uh L D three oh seven, which would have placed a moratorium on state and local governments issuing permits for data centers. As we know data the conversation of data centers is really big across the country. Um those two vetoes alone for many, many main voters, uh really were a turnoff.

So again, the national perspective on Janet Mills versus the reality on the ground are two different things and I think for many people, main voters, that's left people really conflicted. I mean we do have two other candidates.

a right in candidate who of course isn't on the ballot but has been campaigning really hard and then we have one other uh gentleman on the ballot, David Costello, uh who many people just don't know who he is. Um so many find themselves in a really tough situation in terms of

this is a person who is saying the things that we want to hear and at the same time we're hearing these allegations in their personal life that are pretty disturbing. Um I can say that when it came down to my deciding whether or not I wanted to support him um

I knew is if there was any criminal ac you know, allegations that was not something I was gonna do. I'm still not comfortable with what I've heard. Uh at the same time, um, it feels like While we can say is it an excuse the PTSD from the war, it is also a reality that many people returning from war do face.

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Jay Stewart Boulay, I want to thank you for being with us, longtime anti racism activist in Maine, Executive Director of Community Change, Inc.

Peru's Contentious Presidential Runoff

Coming up, we go to Peru, where Keiko Fujimori, the daughter of Peru's former imprisoned dictator, has a slight lead over her progressive challenger Roberta Sanchez in Peru's presidential runoff. Stay with us.

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Rising stars fife and drum band at the Brooklyn Folk Festival. This is Democracy Now, democracynow dot org. I'm Amy Goodman. Peru's presidential runoff is too close to call. After voters took to the polls Sunday in a heated election between the daughter of a former imprisoned dictator, uh her name, Keiko Fujimori or Fujimori, and a leftist lawmaker, Roberto Sanchez. Proving election officials warned final results could take up to a month to confirm.

The latest ballot count this morning showed Fujimori leading by just about a percentage point ahead of Sanchez, according to Reuters. Sanchez spoke from Lima Sunday.

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In keeping with our democratic commitment, we have fulfilled our responsibility and I urge all our fellow citizens to vote responsibly to save Peru and strengthen democracy. Respect the free vote and have the capacity to honor the agreements and the election results, always calling for democracy, justice and social peace, and to move Peru forward.

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Keiko Fujimori is the daughter of Peru's late US backed ruler Alberto Fujimori, who was convicted and imprisoned on crimes against humanity committed during his regime from nineteen ninety to two thousand. Peru's reeling from a period of political turmoil with Sunday's runoff marking the ninth time Peruvians take to the polls to elect a new president in just ten years. The entire Latin American region is experiencing one of its sharpest political shifts to the right in recent years.

as President Trump aggressively intervenes, expanding attacks against leftist governments while backing a series of right wing candidates in recent presidential elections, including in Colombia and Honduras. Mexican President Claudia Schoenbaum has also accused far right sectors in the US of coordinating with domestic groups to destabilize the Mexican government.

For more we go to two guests in Lima, Peru, we're joined by Gustavo Guerra Garcia Picasso, a Peruvian economist and public policy expert who's held various high level government and academic positions over the past twenty years. Here in New York, we're joined by Greg Grandin, Yale University History Professor, Pulitzer Prize winning author, his latest book, America America, a new history of the new world now available in paperback.

His new piece for the New York Review of Books is headlined The Education of Pope Leo the Fourteenth. We welcome you both to Democracy Now. Let's begin with Gustavo Gueda Garcia Picasso. Uh talk about what has happened and if you've been surprised by how close this runoff is. And who Sanchez and Fujimori are.

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Thanks for the invitation. I'm very glad to be here with your audience. Well, Keiko Fujimori. what do we call the quick count of the votes Roberto Sánchez is leading uh by uh fifth uh fifty point three percent against uh forty nine point seven percent of keiko fujimori. So as this kind of um Quick counting bounces has a very big sample. All indicates that Roberto Sanchez will be the next president of Peru.

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So talk more about I mean a daughter of a father doesn't necessarily represent her father's politics, but in this case, in fact, does Fujimori represent her father?

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Yes, Fujimori represents her father, um and in the last years. uh democracy has been undermined by constitutional changes leaded by her that have disrupted the balance of powers and allowed one branch of government to capture several independent branches. Uh now the president can be removed from office in a month, a week or even a day.

And it's urgent that reforms must be implemented quickly to restore a presidential system with check-in balances and to reduce political instability. And the responsibility of these new problems is Keiko's constitution of 2024.

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And can you talk about Sanchez's position and particularly his support Uh for indigenous people. Sanchez thanking the support of the Quechua, the Amara, the Amazonian peoples, of farmers, teachers, shopkeepers, transportation workers, and young people.

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Roberto Sanchez is the leader of the poor in Peru. We have now a result that shows us a divided society, the coastal cities from Lima northward versus the rest of the country, the interior versus Lima. Roberto Sánchez is representing the votes of the poor and the votes of the vast social majority of the country.

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And has President Trump had an effect on the Peruvian elections, Gustavo?

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Not really. I think the the government of the United States is having an an effect on some public policies, like the pressure for buying uh far um excuse me military airplanes or the pressure for building a military base close to lima in callao in the callao province But I think the American administration has been very cautious in not interfering with the electoral process of Peru.

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That certainly is not true um for the rest of Latin America, President Trump's role. But first, uh Professor Grandin, I wanted to ask you about this piece you wrote in the New York Review of Books, The Education of Pope Leo the Fourteenth. Um, as a young missionary in Peru, the Pope witnessed a war on liberation theology and was indelibly stamped by the movement's commitment to the poor. Start in Peru and then go broader to Latin America.

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Well on the regarding the peace, regarding Pope Leo's peace, uh uh Peru in many ways was the cradle of liberation theology, that current within Catholicism that radicalized the church, that committed the church to the poor.

and to and to promote political change, even radical political change, with many nuns and priests and lay people joining insurgencies or joining jo joining social movements and And and and Leo, at the time father Bob Prevost, um from Chicago, from from a kind of peace Catholic background, was very much influenced by by this tradition and he al allied with Pope Francis, who at the time was married er m was was the was the archbishop of of of Buenos Aires.

Uh of Buenos Aires. Yeah. And um and they in many ways they work together to push back against the kind of Vatican

attempt to undermine liberation theology and they pushed back very effectively. They really kind of contained opus day within within Peru. I mean Leo's tenure in Peru over the course of twenty years corresponded to John Pope John Paul and and Joseph Ratzinger who became Pope Benedict's campaign to isolate and undermine liberation theology and then Lee and then Leo uh was appointed bishop by Francis and then he presided over a kind of rollback of the rollback.

So i i i and so in many ways that's shaping his moral vision, his humanism. It comes in many ways out of Latin America.

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It's interesting, uh the world uh in some ways you can watch the tension between Pope Leo and President Trump as they also take on each other. But in Latin America in these last minutes we have Talk about the right word shift, Professor Grandin, and talk about President Trump's role from Peru to Honduras, uh Mexico and beyond

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The best way to think about it is compared to the Middle East. In the Middle East the war in Iran and unforced error which has led Trump to uh kind of uh box himself in with no exit strategy, unwilling, unable to restrain Israel as it goes into Lebanon, as it as it meddles in Syria. It's it's a disaster and it's a fiasco uh

Latin America is exactly the opposite. You see a kind of full spectrum press on the whole continent. Like this not a not a country maybe apart from Uruguay where the United States

isn't actively involved in the internal politics and you see what's being put into place is is the full spectrum of hard power. We have regime change in Venezuela, law fare we're seeing w the United States allying with uh militaries trying to expand as as um the military footprint of the United States in Peru, in Ecuador.

relaunching the war on drugs, what's at stake with the election in Peru, the election coming up in Colombia, is is really if if Trump wins those countries and back for the United States then I want to see a full on uh reescalation of the war on drugs plan Colombia, which was devastating for the countries involved. Devastating for Colombia. And and and that's and that is That is explicitly the plan. Um in Mexico, the United States is using a combination of CIA covert ops in the north.

and lawfare in order to box in Claudia Scheinbaum. In many ways Claudia Scheinbaum stands as a polar opposite of Bukele in El Salvador. Scheinbaum and Bukele are the two most popular presidents in Latin America and they re and they represent polar opposite political projects. Right. Bukele is basically it's this dystopian pro uh project of of of eliminating due process and filling mega prisons and basically serving as a receptacle for the United States' cast off.

And and Scheinbaum is trying to resurrect a kind of Mexican humanism, a Latin American humanism, a universalism, uh uh uh through economic redistribution. But you know, she's she's uh her room for maneuver is is tight. Cuba is really just the tip of the iceberg. It really is a kind of unprecedented

We have twenty seven okay. It's really is an unprecedented uh uh program of regression that we're wa that we're watching in in in Latin America and and and quite in many ways we must admit effective and successful.

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Greg Grandin, Yale University History Professor, Pulitzer Prize winning author, his latest book out in paperback, America A New History of the New World. And Gustava Gueda Garcia Picasso, Peruvian economist and public policy expert, speaking to us from Peru. That does it for our show. I'll be in Sheffield and England Friday night for the screening of the film about democracy now. Steal the Story, please. Um and next week in Belfast on Tuesday night.

For our Landox. That does it for our show. Go to our website at democracynow.org. I'm Amy Goodman.

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