FOMO HOUR #55 - STATE OF THE ART

Yo-yo yo, what up? What up? Good morning. Good morning MG Wednesday, Wednesday, February 7th, 2024. Look at that. Another beautiful day to have a beautiful day. I got my coats and my friends in the house. Oh, Seth, Red Beard, Loxley Mando. How y'all doing today? Good. Wow. Not everybody at the same time. Amazing. I I don't know if you noticed, but. Are you? I've been building this tunnel. Well, we're almost there.

We're almost there. So we're building this tunnel straight to Paris for NFT Paris this year. Wow. So are you building a tunnel from from from from Brooklyn all the way we we. Had to bypass Brooklyn, obviously due to the unfortunate, you know, situation there and they caught on to us. So we went through Manhattan this time and we made a a right a quick right through the Atlantic Ocean. We're good though. Wow. OK. Interesting.

I mean, look, they built it between, you know the UK and France, you know the tunnel, soula monch. So the the tunnel over there, you know if you've taken the train between the two, between Paris and London, you probably know what I'm talking about kind of freaky we, I took it with LOX actually last time so so it's so we did that but you know from from Brooklyn all the way to to France that's that's that's an interesting one. I mean that's.

I mean, but you can see how structurally sound it is. You know, this is we spent a lot of time on this. I mean, it's been years that we've been building this one. He was ahead of the curve. Well, actually, that's the whole thing. They caught the guys in Brooklyn, but they didn't find the other tunnels. Yeah, it was like we were just like gave them like, here, go get those guys. You know why? We could just keep doing our tunnel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, I

mean this is, this is great. I can't wait to see how your tunnel is going to work out. And I hope that everything's fine. I mean it looks like you've got a lot of help going on on that front and it looks like you guys have tried to successfully build 1 tunnel already out in Brooklyn where Williamsburg that is and that worked out pretty well until it didn't. So hopefully this one works out well for you. Benny, what do you have on your hands right now? Are you?

Is that an instrument? So I'm learning. I'm learning the Lyra, so when I get to Paris I'll be able to play a song. OK, I'm getting closer. I I I'm finding out what each string represents here. OK. So like for instance, like here I could do this rec guy is a juice. It's not a alcoholic drink it has, it's not an energy drink. We think it may be water or some kind of fruit juice, but it's wrecked there. You go wow. OK, this is what I woke up early for.

Fully worth it in my opinion. This is definitely quite a start to FOMO hour this morning, Episode 55 here. You absolutely love to see it with everybody in the house. We got a lot of fun stuff to talk about today. We want to talk what we want to talk about today, Sims. We want to talk art. We want to talk ordinals, we want to talk NFTS. We're going to talk very little market. This is just because personally speaking, you know, kind of we talk so much market.

I mean it's doing, it's doing. We're gonna toss it to OV. He can give us a TLDR of course, as usual. But there's a lot of cooking on the ordinal side. Loxy is our resident RSIC expert. So I was talking to Loxy all over this thing. So I kind of want to understand more of what's going on the RSIC world. Penny is like both the puppets king and ordinals expert and the champion of the art. And we got not the one and only legend.

Ryan AK Thank you. X in the house here to talk about to us about the state-of-the-art and what's happening on the art side of NFTS and a crypto space in general because it feels like we've kind of tapped out from this a little bit where all the coin stuff. And last but not least towards the end of the show around 11:15 AM Eastern Standard Time. I already see Joanna in the studio in the in the in the in the in the on the space. Let's see Fido Dido. We're going to be talking more

Fido Dido with all y'all. I know that's what a lot of people are hyped about, man. This Fido Dido M efforts. They get a lot of reminders, a lot of activity on the timeline. This is something always known as something. But anyways anyways anyways Ovi once you give us a quick. Report brought to you by Rug Radio. What's the word? Stocks are good. Higher. Rates are good. Lower. Crypto unchanged. Juice higher. There you go. There you go. There you go.

That's a great market report. Thank you. Thank you very much. You. Did do it quickly. I didn't think OSF. OSF didn't have his rec juice yet. That's the problem. Yeah, yeah. He hasn't had his rec juice yet. I heard when you will have the rec drink. I heard when you have a rec drink immediately like you, you you you become better at in tortoise paces. I'll have it with me next week maybe. I love that. I love you. Actually, they're like we've manufactured them now they're done.

They're, they're still that distribution center. Yeah, so I love that. We're gonna go check them out next week. This is so fun. This is so fun. This is awesome. A look. Honestly, we you're right. Like, we don't even have to go over it for an hour. Like, Bitcoin's 43 KE is 2369. It was pumping yesterday, which means that everything's about to dump Solana's $96. And finally, the Jupiter pump or plunk plunge protection seems to be going off today quickly. OV, did you look into that?

What does it mean for Jupiter? I saw Jupiter jump 10% on the back of that. But what does that mean? Yeah, it just means you know that they, the Tubes team was providing dynamic liquidity for seven days on this. So you know as the price got higher towards 0.7 or $7 billion market cap, their team would have sold a bunch of tokens and as it went lower, they would have sold fewer tokens.

So it kind of had like pump protection mechanism on it, but also the plunge protection mechanisms mechanism on it as well because they're also bidding for people's air drops. And that dynamic liquidity provision is ending today. So you know there's an argument to say it should go higher because there's now no cap on it and we kind of had the dump and people have had seven days to sell their air drop and you you would have thought most people have sold now.

So it could be, it could be interesting. I think I I kind of do expect it to go higher. Yeah, yeah, definitely we'll see what happens. Listen, I am definitely needing it to go higher OV let me tell you that. So hopefully you know we're we're over with that. Yeah, I think I'll be fine. I I think, I think I think I'll be fine on that front and and we'll see what happens over there. But anyways anyways let's pass on to the other stuff because definitely not here to talk markets today.

What should we start with? Honestly, I think we should start with ordinals and what's happening in that ecosystem. And actually it works out pretty well because, you know, obviously, Ryan, you had to drop more recently with terrains that that sold out instantly. Locksley, you're all over the RSIC and Redbeard. You've been, you know, screaming about ordinals since early on. I know you have a lot of early

inscriptions. It was last February, You were all over it. But also you are Lydia, master puppeteer yourself. Some seem to sink, just myself. I'm just extrapolating here that you are the puppeteer Foo and you're a part time when you're not running. I I wish I I have a lot of respect for the head puppeteer. I think with the his Twitter is unmatched and in my one of my in my opinion is one of the best so.

But I do love puppets. I love puppets on ordinals and I also just happen to love puppets, you know in general. I think puppets are great. I play with puppets all the time with my kids you know so like to me it's just an easy one. Now, these puppets, if I made them into real puppets, I probably couldn't use them with my children. That would probably be a bad idea considering they're, you know, mature puppets, I would say. But I could see this be like a Broadway show.

Like, what's that Muppet show that they have on Broadway Avenue? Q Think. Right, Ryan. Right. So they could have, like, a Bitcoin puppet Broadway show. I think it would be phenomenal just throwing that out there. Yeah. OK, well, I love that. I love what's happened on that front. Look, there seems to be a lot of, a lot of conversation around the Bitcoin ecosystem and what's going on there. So I'll, I'll, I'll just, I'll just go right into, I mean,

Ryan, good morning. How you doing today? GM I'm doing great. You know, I I haven't had my morning coffee because who needs it when you got this crew and you got Benny with his little puppet stuff and his his instruments, you know? He he left the tunnels it seems like he's back now at school and no longer playing an instrument on the feed. I I need to be posting the I'll I'll post the stream right now as soon as I have it.

Sims Sims stream please so we can post it on the on the on the timeline but Ryan I mean you recently had a drop on on Bitcoin with the ordinals the terrains and everything and that's doing pretty well. I was looking into it yesterday with locks, which is pretty cool.

I mean what would you say, what would you say, what would you say your experience has been so far like dropping on ordinals and and and obviously like how it was received and what you know what and the activity at the moment? Yeah, I mean, First off it was like an amazing experience because it sold out fast and just the response to the artwork was really cool. Obviously there's a lot to fix there. A long term, like, it's a very

clunky, slow process. But I actually think that's that's good for right now because it the people who are going over there, it seems like they're betting on themselves in a big way. So it's kind of like, you know, harder to do, like a quick pump kind of thing without actually putting money into it, I guess. So, you know, you kind of have to believe in yourself. But the experience I had with like the people there is just, it's been great, actually. Benny introduced me to some cool people.

And then, yeah, I like everyone's like, you know, open arms. They want art there. They want to help. Like it's it's kind of how I felt with NFTS in 2020. You just ask questions and people someone will answer them. So like yeah, that that for me was like the biggest thing, just me asking people questions.

I was super confused about it. Still a little bit confused like I don't fully, I'm diving more into like the tech side because right now what I did is I launched it direct through Magic Eden. It was a very straightforward process, but now for the next thing I'm working on, it's using the tech in a way that could only be done on on Bitcoin. Yeah, I I think, you know, shout out to, I want to say rip cash, rip cash a first, because I feel like he was one of the original

artists. Billy Resta also was very early on. And I checked in with both those guys. Those guys helped me. I like go find people. If you're lucky, if you're an artist, like DM, other artists who have done it or who are like, you know, maybe you've never heard of them, but you see them in the ecosystem because everyone's really willing to help. And like both those guys helped a lot and actually ex ULO as well.

Yeah, ex ULO. Like, I feel like, you know, you know those artists, you know, especially like you know, Billy and RIP, they were so early in not just inscribing on to Bitcoin. To be fair, I feel that they were also very early on understanding the chain. You know, I had a whole conversation with Ryan, thank you X, about before he did the drop. And I thought he did such a great job of really like understanding the culture that's there.

I keep advising artists and people who are building there. Like if you want to do this, yeah, I have no problem. It's like, like building on any chain to me is important. But I would say you have to do your research. You know you're going to come in there. And what especially about that crowd, if you feel that you're going to come in there and be like, oh, I'm going to get a sell out, I will say about the Bitcoin Ordinal crowd, is that

there, there, there. It's not 2020, There's a little bit of an edge, a little bit more of information that they have. So they're, you know, they're gonna smell things out that they feel are more of just money grabs. I don't think that they care

that people make money. I think what they care about is essentially is that if you wanna make money, have a little respect for what we're building here so you you understand that process of it. So I keep advising people like look you wanna go do it, do it, but don't do it the wrong way. You know like on chain monkey they've done it the right way. They've done their research they're putting it, really

bringing people over. I, I, I, I I'm not I I I think multi chain is very important in our space and I have no problem with it. But do your research. I think it's the same thing with Seoul. Like they have their own, you know, shout out to like you know, Goku for being so early on Seoul. But they had like a whole community of people who were end up putting stuff on there. And then, you know, if you just throw something out there, it's it's not going to always do

well. But you can't blame the community. They're looking sometimes for different things. So I advise everybody to do that research. One thing that was cool for me is I think also it's important not to just go and only try to like get something from the Bitcoin community, try to bring something into the community. So, like, if you're an artist and you've been doing well on Solana or Bitcoin, try to educate your current collectors or audience on how to make that

transition with you. For two reasons. One, it's great for the whole ecosystem to bring more people over there, too. It gives you a little bit more of like a safety net of like, OK, well, these people are supporting me. They're going to come with me on this journey. I'm not alone. We had like 50 people sign up for X Versus wallets in my collector's Discord, which is huge. Like to to experiment on a new thing they've never tried before, like 50 people. That was crazy to me.

So like, yeah, I'm bullish on that, but I think you really do need to help bring your audience a little bit at least or educate them. Yeah, I have a song coming up. Do your research. Do your research for sure. There's a lot of stuff happening on there. Speaking of, I love that. Speaking of ordinals, Bitcoin and everything else happen at Ecosystem and Loxley. You're all over this RSIC stuff and I was saying on the show yesterday with OVI was like Loxley never apes anything.

Like you'll get stuff small like you'll do like small like you'll nibble with us. But like when it comes to us like I'll be the complete DJ and behind the scenes at rug video and you're more like, you know you're you're very smart investor and stuff like that. But you never tend to go all into something. Yeah, I'm a. Dad, you're a dad of three and like, I've seen you go all in and you're so deep. You're like reading the KC Rotomor, like GitHub and everything.

So can you give us the TLDR? Because I haven't been able to really have someone on the show come and talk about it yet, because it's up only so. Far few few things first like I'll hop into that in a in a second. But I do want to say really funny story for for for Ryan is Feroke and I were in Switzerland at dinner with a group from Binance and one of these guys from Barcelona that we had just met said he's he's been collecting ordinals.

He goes, hey, have you guys ever heard of thank you X And we and we said, yeah, we've heard of him. And he said, hey he's dropping this. It was like the day before the the day before your trains drop. He said, hey, this is like one of like the first top fine artist to come on to Bitcoin And that's cool. And I was like, yeah, he's like, I'm, he's like, he's like I'm minting it. It's like amazing.

So like that being said, Speaking of like going going back to this whole thing, bringing, bringing something to the chain, there's a lot of incredible things that are happening on Bitcoin. But just like, you know, Benny was saying to shout out, to rip cash, shout out to to to Ryan.

I think it takes a lot of nerve to to go from building an audience both with your physical IRL work, but then also a very Ethereum native audience and bringing those users because that's the other thing too, right? Is it's like it's not like you just brought Bitcoin to your users, you bought, you brought your, your collectors, your user base to Bitcoin, right? So super. I thought that was super cool. But going back to the ARSIC thing, yeah, you know froak's right.

Like I really, I really don't have a tendency to ape stuff. I'll nibble in a lot of things for me. I found myself historically very early to a lot of things but not doing but not taking size chances. I think on this on this whole deal it it it clicked like I'm looking at I'm looking at the runes allocation. I'm looking at you know my investment thesis.

Froak knows this like the reason that I that I invest in things both in my, you know, IRL portfolio as well as like my my digital portfolio is less about speculation, more about the potential for positive cash flow and the potential for

sustainability. And not investment advice obviously, but looking at looking at what the R6 are doing in this idea of mining runes, you know, a new asset class native to Bitcoin that is opening up a lot of like smart contract capability ish, we'll call it right. Like for for the Etherium based crowd, the parody there really is like smart contract like capabilities and true fungible

tokens. It felt to me like an opportunity to get into something fresh that mirrored success stories from other chains that we saw in the past. And to really just take a bite into something that I didn't think was high was high risk. I thought it felt pretty. But there's other, there's other ruins. So just to be of course, Casey Ryder has been talking about doing runes. This is not his runes, if that's a different Runes 1. 100% so there's multiple runes projects.

And and Leonidas is doing a runes project, so this this is from an unknown. There's R6 there's there's the there's Runestone there's Runex you know and obviously like you know Casey going in and and pioneering and writing these white papers on this runes protocol is just you know this is this is just another thing the the reality is I think they dropped the AirDrop very well thought out very well

distributed. The amount of people who are buying into the game theory see this is the other thing too is it's one thing to have a static allocation in AirDrop, it's another thing to engage the community and sometimes you know the implementation of game theory is mid curving and overthinking it. In this case, I think it you know we're looking at 70 days until the having until you know Runes protocol becomes available and I think this is something to

keep the community engaged, keep them interested and give them a, you know the opportunity to educate themselves while you know we get to that point. If it says allocation, is that is that what I'm getting? Or do I have to hold the actual runes in order to get that allocation? When I look it up, when I look up my is it? Wait, is it your birthday? No, but this like new Apple Mac OS update is so annoying. It's so annoying. Happy birthday to. You. It's not even this birthday, but happy.

Birthday. Annoying the whole thing like. It. Throws all these like things and it bugs up your computer all the time like this. It is horrible. You'll be in the middle of an important meeting with a huge client and you'll be like this and it'll send a bubble up and you look so stupid. But anyways, what do you think here like this is? I find this whole thing fascinating. So it's like a new standard. So it's not a BRC, it's a rune.

And for what's worth, like runes is something Casey's working on. There's going to be more runes. This seems to be like an interesting use case. Like this is arguably the first successful AirDrop on Bitcoin, right? Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong it's. No, I'm making the largest ordinals ordinals, and it's up to .12, seven Bitcoin. So Ovi, now we're talking about this yesterday or something. Like we don't remember last time an AirDrop was worth like 2 ETH. Yeah.

If you look at, if you look at the market cap right, without considering rarities and and variability on floor, just based off floor price, it's $100 million AirDrop currently, right? Yeah. It makes it like the largest AirDrop I would. Consider Bitcoin Cash. Probably an AirDrop way bigger than this, just to be fair, to give them like just, I mean that was an AirDrop, essentially it was just free money of a coin,

whatever. But from an from really an ordinal standpoint, I mean, yeah, this is, they crushed it, you know, the way they got out of it, they they they sent them out allocation to me. I thought it was just kind of easy when I bought them, you know, there were some rumors that they didn't like the person who created it. Anytime there's something that has negative press, I usually buy it, 'cause I'm just like, OK, that means price went down.

They agree with locks. The whole idea of it kind of looked interesting. But I I think the bottom line is it just comes down to is just like, look, don't just buy anything that's going on ordinals, cause a lot of stuff is being minted right now. You know, definitely take a look at the inscription numbers and whatnot. But now we're seeing that projects are making a big difference. So like, you know, quantum cats dropped yesterday, man. And I mean it exploded so.

So what I'll say what I'll say back to the to this this arsic thing though. Benny is you're right, there will be Runes projects across the board, right? There's and this is just one of them. That being said, like I have like I intend to diversify and I will grab a bag of a new Runes project that I think is going to be successful because I'm excited about what this runes protocol means. And really like I, I, I actually told this I tell this to Froak every single day.

I don't believe in reinventing things, right. It's like we're talking about iterative improvements just

incremental improvement. And when you look at the ruins protocol and the incremental improvement over BRC 20 over you know, and really just taking what we saw on other chains and bringing that functionality to Bitcoin, for me, I I think we're opening up a door to a lot of interesting potential liquidity speculation because you know, Casino, Pondanomics, whatever you want to call it and I'm excited for it. OK, this is really cool. I'd love to see that.

Speaking of, you know, everything going on, ordinals and stuff. I'm assuming everybody saw the quantum cats and and what's happening with UDI here yesterday. Ovi, yours and I's prediction was a .2 BTC. Did you say .2 point? 32 I think we said .25 or something like that. Yeah, it actually. Opened at point 2:00-ish and is now sitting at 0.32 Bitcoin floor cat.

Which, by the way, by the way, I'm going to be switching mine, so I don't want to hear it. When you see a cell broadcasted because it would be a buy broadcasted right after it, OK, 'cause I see those and I'm like, damn, I want this one with the fucking the wizard stars on it, or these ones I like when they're like all shadowy and stuff. What do we, what do we, what do we think happens here with this

quantum cast? They've opened with 265 Bitcoin volume already, 2700 owners, 3300 total supply. It's really wild. Like, is this like really where like ordinals just take all the energy away on the NFT front from from Ethan Solana? Because at the moment, like, he's really taking off a lot of the attention. I don't know if it takes away all the energy from Ethan Solana. I think there's still a lot going on there. Ordinals still feels like to me like more of like a niche group of people.

Anyway, this is a collection of 3333 that was a 0.1 Bitcoin min. So that's not going to like attract loads of new people. I think it's just people within the ecosystem still. But you know, that being said, I think this collection will do really well. And if you have the more successful projects you have on ordinals, the more people start to enter that space and try and make some money. So yeah, I think I think this will continue to do pretty well.

It's like like when I think ordinals for some reason, I just think UDI and this is like the UDI project, you know what I mean? So it just it just it just feels like it's going to be like the new like face of ordinals for a while and if it goes higher than I think it will bring everything along with it. I would. Say that this is one of the. This is like one of the collections that I saw, people that aren't normally in ordinals even, but that are kind of like bigger names posting all over

the timeline. So this was like, this took over the timeline. Like normally like when I see an ordinals drop, it's like a specific group, but this one kind of seemed to bleed out beyond that. Yeah, And I mean, the fact that the Mint didn't go well and it's still doing well is testament to Udi, his team, far and what they're building over there, but also that people are taking this seriously. Look, I I think that I keep

saying this. I've been saying it since the first day I came on rug to talk to you guys about this. You know, ignoring something because you don't like it is always a big mistake, I think, in this space, especially when the bull market's around the corner, I mean. But I do agree with Seth, while this is fun and nice and everything, we're still waiting for that other shoe to drop, in

my opinion, right? So for to me, I think the other shoe is for this to work, I I mean is you need a very big account like Michael Saylor to be like, hey, I just bought a cat for 10 Bitcoin. People forget that like in in NFTS early on that's what happened, right? That somebody bought a punk for $2,000,000 or an 8 for $5,000,000 and that that like made a mad rush for everything

else in the market. So like we're looking at these Bitcoin prices and we're like, OK, it's .33 BTC, how many, how much is that in dollars of OSF? That's like what? I don't know offhand, 14,000, so it's like 8 ether right around. So something like that. It's at 9 ether. Whatever it is, it's. Less than that. Six and. Six like 6 and a bit, yeah.

All right. So these are 6.5 S So just so just and again and this is like all speculation obviously, but if we do believe Bull market's coming back and we do believe NFTS can come back, I, I, I remember we were trading apes, you know, way higher and the floor was insanely higher.

So to me, again, I don't know if this is for sure going to work out, but if it does, I see there's a lot of room to grow here versus the fact that it's like, oh, we've already, you know, this may be like, you know, that's expensive already, but that's that feeling you got when NFTS were a thing back in 2019 and 20 when people like, oh man, it's already A10 ether and then all of a sudden it's like a floor for 100 ether, right.

So I I think people should should always collect NFTS very strategically and smartly, but to ignore it would be a gigantic mistake in my opinion. Yeah, I mean it's going to be interesting to see how this evolves. When it comes to to the cats and stuff, there's a lot of conversation around like if is this going to lead to tappet Wizards. Once the second collection one I see someone in the chat talking about, you know, it's so weird when the secondary collection is mentioned before the 1st.

The thing is, we don't really know what or how. We just know that, you know Udi and his Udinals and the Udiats are building this and we like Udi. I'm calling Udiats because that's what this Bitcoin Max is called that don't like him by the way. It's not in no way, shape or form. What I feel and how I feel about Udi and his team definitely love

them and here to support them. So I find this super cool, but this all leads me to another conversation that I really wanted to have here with you guys. I mean, state-of-the-art state-of-the-art in NFTS. Our boy OV at the end of this month hasn't meant let's fucking go PD5I can't wait to see it. But you know Ryan, what is going on in art these days? I know some people love to say, you know, the art is dead, blah blah blah blah blah blah. But there's a lot of stuff going on regardless.

Like what? Are there some things I've caught your attention, your eye recently on the art side of crypto? I mean, yeah, I've been paying a lot of attention to ordinals, to be honest. And yeah, I don't know. That's been my main focus personally, like you're. Seeing kind of like follow suit. There's some artists that are working on some things that it's like it's it's a little loaded question because I think right now is a little bit from the artist release side.

It's it's a calm before the storm. I think there's a lot of stuff being built right now and collections and things that are being built. I don't know, Benny, what? What do you think? I see Benny. Smile like he knows something. No, I'm laughing because I found that there's a comment section and someone wrote his name is Mando's forehead.

Anyone seen my Vaseline? I can't find it anywhere and I'm just I I didn't know that Mando has forehead has its has its own account which is. Is your your looks? Used to have an account, now it's his forehead. Well, I mean, his forehead is gigantic now that we're on the topic talking. I see. Why is Mando catching strays? He's not even on the show right now. I know, I see. Speaking of the challenge, usually Mando's forehead. Dude, hold on, I got to take a screenshot.

I. Leave that on screen for me. OK, got it. That's crazy, bro. The idea, Benny, is that like Mando and Ovi's foreheads, like average each other out. That's true, because like, Obi doesn't really have a forehead and Mando has a gigantic forehead, so. If you Obi has like a three head, Mando has A5 head. You could fit You could fit like like almost all of Ovi's face inside Mandos forehead. So it'd be kind of weird if we did that and like Ovie's face was here. What about Betty's?

Betty's goes beyond his head. Yeah, I don't really have. I have no forehead or head. It's just a mix. So Betty, what are you're like literally the champion of the art? You are literally like you're like a modern day you know Medici, literally patron of the arts. You help us a lot on the rug reader, the crypt side with art. You are creating an insane line up of panels from France. You already created a great one for our house in Miami that we did.

I know what you up to. I see you collecting. I know you participated in the Sotheby's last grail sale. I think you bought one of the the Cherniak piece like. So tell me like what's happened on the art side, you know because a lot of people love to, you know consider it dead because all the other stuff is trading. But I'm pretty sure there's a lot happening. Yeah, I mean, I I I think that, you know, we use it. You know, we ask the question is like art dead in this community.

And I find it funny because art never dies, right. So like the idea that it's dead maybe is that some people have stopped collecting. They think that it's interesting we're going into a new phase. I think you have collectors who've had spent a lot of money in the past who are not spending money right now who are looking for different venues of of helping artists in connecting to institutions.

I think you have newer collectors that are coming in interestingly enough that you know, probably sold off the last bear cycle and are coming in with some money. And then I think you definitely have some funds quietly that have been raising a lot of money that are starting to buy slowly. You know, like me personally, I I'm, I'm very patient when it

comes to the art market. I think that you know, you know, if you're going to buy something, to think, to flip it, in my opinion is that you shouldn't be buying it. I think that if you're coming in to collect, obviously you want to make money. Not everybody wants to be a patron, which is totally fine also. But overall, Paris is packed, People are doing projects and if if if we already went through a bear again if I don't know if we did or not depending on OS, FS mood during the.

No, no he's not. He's back. It was a 24 hour. OK, fine. He's back. He's. Back and also like he had a tiny baby bear in him even after that for a little bit, but it seems like it's kind of like. I'm back. OSF is back. He had his. Period. But it's over. And now he's collecting art and making art again. This is how you get the royalty free songs. There you. Go I do want to point out like if.

You. OK, so like, because I've been paying a lot of attention to ordinals like what Billy has done with bit blocks has been incredible. What Hardo has done with the Golden Ratio, those to me like are some of the best collections that I've seen. Like golden Ratio was something that I was like, oh, OK like, I understand, like people are going to understand this. I'm like a big way and what he's doing and it he has something

free coming out that he's doing. And this is actually really important because he partnered with the Belvedere Museum to release a free mint on ordinals and it's called floor forms. And I don't know, I think it's dropping soon, but it's like, I know they're like, you know, setting up a lot of list and stuff like that right now. But it's basically like art based off of like the museum's collection which and it's a free

mint. So like to me, you have institution paying attention to ordinals, you have a known artist there with a very successful cool collection doing it and they're doing it for free. So it's A to me that's like a cool onboarding system, you know? And then. Yeah, and. Then E33. I don't know if you guys know him. I think E33 is going to be the breakout like generative kind of

AI star. I think like this year maybe or one of them, I've just been and I've basically they caught my eye on their timeline and I was like, holy shit, I just found your work, whatever. Like it's amazing. And then he replied, he's like, oh, I'm actually part of a Dow that acquired your Solana piece, you know, whatever. So like, he's been doing like both sides for a while. And I don't know, to me that's very interesting. I think if you go look at Echo, it's Echo. 33 Work on one find

that if they're curious. Yeah, it's. It's on Twitter. You could just look up E33. But the spelling. Is. EEKO 33. I just and I just want to add to this like the the art market is is not dead. You know, I, I, I, I think people need to realize that there are some really amazing artists that are are working behind the scenes that have some tremendous art coming out this

year. I think that, you know I think that we have to like stop as a community in my opinion to be so into these ideas of like what's next, right. Like you know, we have like, yeah, we have like what the meta how. Good is this art, though. How good is this art? It's he's great. They were great. I should say. I don't know if it's a hitters. That's cool. But I think that we have to get out of this meta of like what's next? Where am I going to get next.

Can I get the white list, allow you know allow list excuse me. And I think that we have to focus on the the fact that there's some really great artists who are doing some stuff like look Avant I think is is pounding out some amazing work shout out to Abigail and that team. The map piece that they just put out was amazing.

The, the map, the map and piece was great and I think that let's we'll also talk about how the next 2-3 months, excuse they're gonna be the last two bright moments events. You know what Seth and his brother have done has been so tremendous for the digital art space and they've done these 12 shows and they're up to their last two.

It's historical for our team. You know we can't we keep sitting in this moment in time and not realizing that there's this larger sort of broader picture to all of this, right. So instead of us focusing on the fact that Seth is and Bright Moments is having their last two shows, while that feels like a really cool moment right now, I can promise you if Digital Art Renaissance is real 1020 years from now, they're going to go back and talk about those 12 shows.

They're going to talk about every artist that participated in that. So I think if you're collecting, you have to realize that the longevity of this is not a moment in time, but everything that's happening. Look, Nate, Alex is coming out with a new project. Yes, Sir. I told him to come on the show. He got it, he. Also, I think Benny, though don't you think it could be both a moment in time? Oh for. Sure. I'm saying enjoy. Yes, enjoy it now.

But, like, give yourself a little foresight that you're gonna talk about this and someone's gonna be one day like I, you know, Oh, those bright moment shows I heard were amazing. And you're like, well, I got to go to three of them, right? I have art that I own from some

of them. I think that that's the moment we're we're focused in on now for art, in my opinion in the community rather than being in a sense of like speculation when it comes to what you know what's next and and and and not because he's here. I'm going to be very honest.

But shout out to OSFOV who who's proved that with red light district right, who has shown that given given the piece of art that if you believe in him, he will continuously keep building his career, possibly by giving back to you and and what he does. But those people feel a sense of connection to that and I think that that's what you need to do more and more, otherwise it becomes speculation. And it to me that that's that takes away from the art itself.

Yeah, I'm. Going to interrupt you real quick. Yeah, I I think, you know, I get AI get a chance to talk to a lot of the red light District holders and there's something really special. I think that's happened with red light District, where I don't, I don't think the majority of them are thinking about speculation and price, nor are they thinking about the art of the red light district. They're thinking about the artist behind it, right. And that's that's an important

connection. Yeah, I think so. I think that, yeah, listen, you know. I like the. I like the idea of just like being random on Twitter and coming across this space for the first time. And then you just cut in during that part and they're like, they got speculation on the red light district and they're like. What the heck? What is this red light district you guys are talking? About how do you speculate on that? And like even and there's so much going on.

Like Pindar has a drop that's coming up with NFT Paris, which looks amazing. Actually. I'm I'm really excited about the Pindar thing. I I was on the spaces with him yesterday hearing about it with NFT Paris. And I love his stuff, I mean. You know he's he's. A great artist. And yeah, he's giving away a lot of stuff in person as well as in Paris and. I was gonna, and that's what was gonna end with the fact that we're all in NFT Paris.

Artists creators. I mean it's I I to me it's it's it's it's it's like, hey, we're still alive. We're still here. You know it's like from that cartoon. What was that movie We are Here. We are here from Horton Hears a Who and I feel like that's what we're all doing and shouting until it gets out to the ecosystem of the world. But we just got to keep doing that and to me, I think we're getting closer and closer to

that that that really. Speaking of NFT Paris, I do want to just shout I am doing like a display at NFT Paris with my art. So I. Yes. Oh, nice. So, Ryan, how did you? Do How did you do that I. Was like, can't wait to go to your dinner at NFT Paris. And I was like, where's my invite? And then Ryan, I had the nerve to say I was invited and he didn't. Did you ever check your chat? Maybe you never checked him. See. No, but I'm. I'm. I'm doing a little dinner, but it's.

But yeah, it's with Maker's Place. And if you want to see my art at NFC Paris, it's at the Maker's Place booth. I have a big new piece to display. Yeah. OK, love that. Wait, how did you? How do you do this do? You Mac OS update like you have to update your computer. I don't. I don't update. I don't. Get it? I I don't. I don't understand. I don't update my wife. Yeah, we can. Tell my OS. Yeah, yeah, we can tell you don't update your computer. Yeah, we we, yeah, we know. We know.

I don't clean it. I don't clean my computer and well, this is what I'll do. If I need to update my computer or clean my computer, I'll just get a new computer. Smoking like a true crypto bro, You guys. You guys crack me up. Look, I there's a obviously like a bunch of stuff I, I, I I'd love to keep, you know, talking about when it comes to art and when a lot of cool stuff

happened in the space. In my opinion, there's a lot of things going down right now we can we should definitely like run this group back like at least like once a week or every other week to talk more art stuff on the show. Because I know, obviously Rd., Roger Dickerman doing this 24 hours in art every day, which is really cool, helps you, you know, obviously everybody get up to date with everything, but you know it's good to have an update every now and then on what is

going in the art space. The other thing, and last thing I had here on the art side, and then I definitely want to get the Fido Dido team up on video with us, 'cause I know y'all came here to listen to them. And Joe Farroni, she's like, dude, I she's like like Super G, like super OG, the coolest person I've ever met. She even came to the art house, she pulled up and like a scooter on a Vespa and I'm like who The Who the fuck is this pulling up in our driveway in a Vespa?

And it was Joanna Ferrone. So I'm telling you I cannot wait to get in with it, into it with her quickly though, bottom right purple box, hit that retreat button because we are giving another $1000 on the show today. We have been giving $1000 every single day on the show until we run out of the 15K. So I think we're like 11K deep and we're going to give it away to someone that's listening. So if you're not listening well, you're not getting $1000. I'm. I'm listening. Does that count?

Listening but you you have enough $1000 you're not getting it and so you have to retweet follow FOMO hour and follow roll become. And just so you all know yesterday I understand that the the the loot boxes were underwhelming. It was my fault. I messed it up. We fixed it. So the two people that won the loot boxes yesterday you get to re roll on Friday. So hopefully you make a whole lot of money. The last thing that I thought was really cool on the art side. I know, I know I don't.

I don't This is like sensible sensitive topic of conversation for Crypto Punks was the Nina Chanel Abney collaboration with Punks that went down and that was enough yesterday. But we can probably have a whole conversation about another time because I don't want to like go over it too much because I know it's going to cause a little debate. But Crypto Punks are an art disruption in the best way.

As the inaugural artist for the Crypto Punks NFTS Punkin Residence program, I'm excited to be expanding my web three knowledge and be joining this iconic community as Punk 72. So it seems like you got like, you know part of the residency program gave Nina Chanel a punk which is Punk 72 which is Daft Punk which by the way like fire with the.

I mean obviously that's not the actual background of it but I just realized that the blue and blue background slaps like that and looks like Nina Chanel will be making like her old collection like a derivative collection using the crypto punk stuff. So obviously, like when it comes to crypto punk, you know, I know, I know, some people don't like it when people touch Punk's IP and everything. And the punk's chat Yesterday it was rolling rolling in a debate

and you'd love to see that. But what are the original thoughts here? What is this? What is this Stage's original thoughts on on this collection I. Think I'd love to speak. So I I've been a fan of Nina before Web three. I think she's fantastic. I think when I saw her paying attention to Web Three I I was very happy.

I, you know, I own her go to NFTI am like optimistic about what this will be. I think it was, you know, I, it was an interesting choice to to go for the artist residency program to go like outside of the community, I think was an interesting choice but like I'm, I'm not ready to like say it's a bad choice because it could be this amazing thing. And I believe in Nina and I think that she's great and I, you know, yeah, it's it's interesting.

And I think anytime the punks, whoever's running, the punks of the time does anything, they'll get a lot of love and they'll get a lot of hate. It happened when Matt and John were running it. They would do something. Everyone would hate them, Then other people would love them. I mean, they got kind of ousted though, you know, with a big ticket. I I agree. I'll see. I wanna. I wanna add this. This is really important. This is a woman. This is an African American

woman. I think it's important. We do not talk. We do not give women or minorities a loud enough voice in this space and for them to pick her who is a supreme artist. She's not just a woman and an African American. She's also like talented artist, right? Freaking artist. That top, top level. Tier. Top level and for for.

Punks in my opinion, which is the top level collection in our space to do this and to I credit Yuga for this to say like hey, we need to people for other people to take punk seriously the same way we do. I think this is the best bridge to do it right. You're giving them a voice, You're giving a importance to it. It's not like it's really hurting the IP as much as everybody's saying. I mean, look, I just think I. Don't think you can hurt the IP, really.

Like, no, I just can't. I take the argument, you know, look, what do you think here you want to jump in? No, no, I felt both. I felt both ways about this actually. I felt I felt up and down about this yesterday and let me explain really quickly. You need the down 1st and then the up. Like Peroke and like Ryan, I was a fan of Nina Chanel for a long time. Like, who isn't right?

The Downside and Froak, you know, convinced me that maybe I need to see the other side is. As a relatively young punk but a fan of the punks, for a long time, I have seen them and hoped that they would be given the room to breathe as artifacts. And that's what they are, right? They're historical artifacts and they're and they're perfectly beautiful as is.

And my my original reticence was around this idea that Yuga as an entity who now owns that IP might impose on not the art, but on the institution of punks some mechanics that don't need to be

there. And now I'm recognizing more you know largely in in you know things to Faro Ryan also like you saying that this idea of artists in residence brings a lot of validity validation I would say right to the digital art space and that we're taking traditionally accepted fantastic fine artists and showing that they are part of this institution. And I'm I'm, it's growing on me. And and one thing too is that it's it's not just picking a random artist that has never paid attention.

It's like she's been part of GOTA. She's I I know she owns like some doodles, you know from early on, like when she when they were launching GOTA, she got on stage and I was like. I was. Oh, we host. Oh, OK. We we host. She's been to multiple IRL. I've I ran into Nina Chanel like a 2-3 events easy over the last two years. Last year I. So when I was listening to that spaces, I was like, oh, like,

OK, what's she doing? And then she starts talking about how she's like, you know, flipping doodles and like, she's like, I'm like what she knows about Doodle. Like it was, I was like shocked, you know, because I was like, at that time, it wasn't a big thing for, you know, top tier artists like that to come into Web Three. And I say top tier, like, you know, every museum wants her kind of thing, not like. Just she's cool.

Or has a lot of followers like she's like very desired artist in the traditional world so and that to me is like a good thing that she she knows what she's doing.

She understands the space and she like she said in her post she wants to you know dive deeper into it and I like that she gave punks like you know the credit of like this is the top tier collection da da da. So like to me I'm I'm bullish on that and I I don't think that I've ever seen something where like I've been disappointed by something she's done. So I'm, I'm optimistic in that side. But yeah, I'm you know, only time will tell like let's see

how it goes. But I I think why not cheer her on and support and because if if everyone starts to like, it's like even within the community like why would she want to be part of the community if if everyone's like in the crypto punks, you know, like I'm a crypto punk holder. So like you know, you saw the chat yesterday that was like it was going for her, you know, whatever. But like if it's bad, then why would she even want to keep the

punk? She would just sell it and then be like, you know, I don't even want to be part of that community after that. And so why not welcome her with open arms at this point? And like, let's just support and hope for this. And like Benny said, like we don't have a lot of people like that in the space, so like, why don't we? Why don't we support You want to hate the You want to hate the idea? That's fine. But hating on the artist? I never understand. No, of course, I think people

know. I think the business I heard. Loxley, you got to stop hating. It's not cool. Yeah, locks. Come on. Yeah, locks could not. Be that guy, these people. Are not hating on the artist. And art people are very just like punks in general, like loving. People like careful. I just want to worry about. Yuga because like a Yuga initiative. Like, Oh my God, you guys. Are gonna like I do. Go ahead, let's go to you 'cause you haven't. I've spoken yet and you have a fire, punk.

So what are your? Thoughts I I see what locks is saying. I think there's I think there's two sides of the coin here and one side is like one side of it is this is an amazing opportunity for someone who has is like bridging the traditional and web three world and all that stuff is fantastic. Let's just pretend it's not Nina. It's just like an artist or

whatever. Whatever they're doing, it's it's sort of like you have to think about it from you lad's perspective as well, where it's like they acquired the punk IP for having, you know, an undisclosed amount which is probably 10s of millions of dollars. I think it's in the hundreds, by the way. I think it's like maybe it's a. Punk. Yeah, probably in the maybe, possibly in the hundreds.

And maybe they have people saying, like, OK, you guys bought this, like what the fuck are you guys going to do with it? Well, like how do we make a return on this? And then they're like, oh shit, we need to actually do something with this IP and sell stuff. And this is a good application of that. Because I think generally speaking anyone who knows anything about ARP will appreciate this.

But there is a risk that they do other kind of jobs which feels like, you know, not as as organic and kind of show their hand a little bit as to like what they're trying to do. And you know, like I do think the best thing about punks is that they are just artifacts. They're just there to be appreciated without their anything to to you know without

needing anything more. And you know, I thought like the that the physical drop with like avant art was like amazing because that's just like, hey, we haven't really done anything crazy. But here's just like some physical thing that you can have in your home. If you like punk, that was like brilliant.

But there's a risk now if you just keep doing like loads of art drops, like based on punks, like it's official because it's Yuga Labs doing it. But, you know, you know, you see comments about like, oh, it's just a so Yuga Labs punk derivative and all that kind of stuff.

And I think you know, true hardcore punks and those kind of guys, I can understand how they might feel a bit like well this thing that was like nice and pure is now a little bit impure because Yoga Labs is using the IP to you know try and monetize it. And that's, that's the risk. I think that's the risk. I I I I think I. Want to go to the Fido Dido team because I I do have to bring them up, but go on. I just want to say quickly, I don't disagree with everything you're saying.

I think that there's definitely two sides to this. I would say that like while I see them as artifacts, to me artifacts are are priceless. So therefore to me adding to its, its history and story and richness is going to be important. So like, I I understand that, you know, I would say, like, I just my thought process is there's so much drama in this community and sometimes we just need to be like like just no drama, like take it down guys. Like just relax. Like, you know, like bottle

sells. And it's like, Oh my God, I can't blame bottle sells from Fort ETH and like, aren't they? Grow up, put your pants on and make. People go shut the phantom scribb bro. Like random scribbles like Madam. Scribbler. If he thought if he if he felt that he wanted to buy it and he feels the history of it, then it's. This money, it's this fucking for the ether spending, not yours. I love, I love the idea of buy shaming like they're still. Having for like. Buy shaming like.

Why did? You're not allowed. To buy that. No, you can't buy that. My art was worth more money. Like, look, I get it. It's like, frustrating because you're working and someone's buying something. But look, everybody, art is about your perspective, right? And I just think I'm just, to me, I think a little less drama in this space would be a little bit better. And sometimes we'd just be like, OK, let's try that. You know, we're allowed to make mistakes here. This is not a place that

everything has to be perfect. Sometimes you do something doesn't work out. You gotta break. Shit, we gotta break shit to build shit. So anyways, viral thoughts love to hear that. I know a bunch of us have punks have participated in the punk ecosystem a lot before or the art eco, so I just think it's cool. Like it's just cuz we're all talking about logs obey myself and all that stuff like

yesterday night. But I think like you know we're not saying like the institution of punk's like we want to preserve he's right like we should be preserving that But in my opinion the institution institution is who is the holder. It's not yoga right. Yoga just bought the IP they do own 419 Punk's for. It's worth. They can't even fuck this up because they have so many punks that it has. Obviously 418 now. Yeah, for an 18. Now. Exactly. Just gave her one. But I, I I welcome it.

I'm happy to see punks at LACMA. I love seeing punks at Pompy do Sean George Pompy do at the at the I see in Miami. I love my Avant art frame, which locks. You can buy it for $100,000 if you want. I know you want one 2000 by the way. If anyone wants to flip their avant art crypto punks, Lox wants to buy one for $2000. So it's a 4X already 5X if you're selling five. It was 300 bucks, 500 bucks and I forgot. So $2000 bid. Lox wants to buy one if I'm saying.

Cos Cos gave punks in that Lakma thing. I didn't know that. That's amazing. Cos gives. His own punk. The the the zombie. Wow. He's at LACMA, right? So. You know, so we everywhere at SCA. Medicis, right? I mean they I love it. The Medicis are everywhere, man. They since since minus House and in in Milano so they've been around. But anyways, that was a good conversation.

I'm really happy we had it. Hopefully it it opens the eyes of people on the punks and what's going on there and I think it's really cool and I'm personally very, very proud to be punk. So anyways, for the boys on here who have some work to do, you're welcome, we'll go. And for those of you who wants to hear the legend herself, my good friend Joanna Ferroni. Najib, Ginger Potter, Hold on.

You guys pulled up with a damn. The final title squad rolled in deep on us. Y'all pulled up on rock Radio One time. Hold on. Oh shit. It's like us five at the top and the right that we. I don't think we've had that many people on folk. Actually, we have never had people on film an hour before, which is wild. So Joe, first, how do you do? I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to bounce to just be a listener. Bye, Ryan. Love you guys and let's go. Hearing you guys nice conversation.

Really interesting. Thank you very much. I'm sorry. I know I meant to go to you guys 15 minutes ago, but this squad? Here, entertained very much by those guys. And you always, as always, Farooq, who's I want to put in a bottle. But that would be completely counterintuitive because it would stay in a bottle. You're amazing. You're amazing. Thank you so much. I mean look that in right back at you. I mean you know we have we have the whole team here.

I'm assuming the Oasis and Ferro Dido team, right. I know Najib of course you were on with us last time with Allan. Yes Sir. Injured Potter. How y'all doing? Hi, guys. Good. All good. Hi, Farooq. Nice to meet you. Thank you for having us actually. We're so hyped. We're so hyped. Anytime. I'm I'm so happy. Like honestly you guys are such a fun partner to have on film R

and rug radio in general. I know we've already hosted once when we were together for your mint and then you know Joe came on and said hi at the house chat to Golden who posted this photo of Joe and I he just posted it as AGM. I'm. Getting jealous. Actually, I'm getting really jealous now. Right now. Where, where? Where was this? Where was this guys? That was in Miami at the our house. So you're hanging out together now? We were in December. We were hanging out in December,

right, Joe? We had fun. You're a lucky guy. Yeah. Nice. We had a lot. Of fun Is your real name Ginger Potter? Like can I this this? One. No. So, so basically my buddies used to call me that. That's cool because I had ginger, ginger hair and like, crown glasses. And then I took it and made it my own. And yeah, basically everyone called me. Ginger Potter. So, so yeah. Oh my God, I love that. This is so funny.

Listen, there's a lot of people, I don't know what you guys are doing over there on final Dido. Well, obviously, I know, but what I don't There is so much, so much excitement every time you guys come on this show. Like before you even came, there was like 250 people setting reminders, a bunch of retweets. That's before even we set the whole like you.

Obviously we're giving money away to someone on the show today, but you guys just always managed to have so much, you know, you know, excitement, right. So what's the latest? Y'all? What's the latest? Obviously open-ended question, perhaps the Joe first or Najib if you want to take on the Oasis side. But like, what's the latest when it comes to Fido, Dido and Web 3? Because it was really exciting combo we had last time. OK, I I want to defer to Ellen because he is the genius behind

this whole thing. There's a lot of geniuses behind this whole thing. It certainly would not be happening without you guys and Ralph in particular is just such an incredibly talented artist who is bringing Fido back to life. All of these guys are the best and Ellen is is the the premier spokesperson for the whole project and kind of the godfather I would say. Oh, wow. That's wow. Wow. Basically, that's a huge.

Responsibility. And up to that, actually a couple of weeks ago she told me, you know, take Fido as your little brother and and take care of him. So. So yeah, Fido is kind of my little brother. Quick intro, my name is Alan or Alan like Fido or Fido. Born and raised in Belgium from Lebanese parents. So I work between between Paris and Brussels. I own AFMB company that manage

big music and sporting events. So like to Moreland festival or the Formula One Grand Prix. We we manage and supply the FMB around those kind of events. So whenever you want to come. Here in Belgium to hang out with us on those festivals, you're

more than welcome. But since my college years, I was so a true believer of blockchain and IT and I I started to to study it. I started to invest in it and and in 2020 big crisis, big economic crisis started in my hometown Lebanon. And I saw the potential and the and the and the craziness of of of the blockchain and NFT and how it bring alternative and create a new economy to people like Ginger Potter or Najib or myself to gather around to to

create a new economy, a new business awareness to artists. And I started to be around some NFT collection until I met the ghosts, Joe who who told me, who told me about about Fido. And the first time we met, it just clicked. You know Farooq as you as you have met her. She's this wonderful woman. She's. So crazy. And she she boosts my day, she boosts everyone around her. She's she's a pure joy.

Joy to be around. And when she introduced me to Fido, it a lock, a lock, a core memory, you know, like I'm this 90s guy. As you can hear I I English. It's not my first language. So I learned English in front of the TV, in front of Cartoon and Cartoon Network and and Fido was everywhere at this time. Fido was on Billboard, Fido was on bottles. Where he was the 7UP spokesman, he was 7UP spokesman, he was, he was on school supplies.

So it was crazy and when she showed that to me and said, OK, listen, we need, we want to do something with that and I want to to put it into this digital age, I say I have the perfect fit and let's do it and let's recreate it and let's pick it on Web 3. So how it That's how it started. Wow. I love that. I love, love, love that. And I love the background too. I mean, I'm French, Persian, you know, Belgium. Lebanese is not not so far apart. It's almost like we're cousins, bro.

Yeah, we're Cousin Man you. Know. I speak French, I speak French, Yallah habibi and Arabic and whatever you want. And Arabi Mahabhakifak Habibi. Let's go. That's all I know. Let's bring him any food. And and they're very, very bad words. So we're not going to go there this morning. No, not. At. All rated stuff like that. So it's really cool. I mean, Joe, I'm going to go back to you how's, how's the, how's the trip in Web Three

been? I mean, obviously you talked to us about last time about, you know, the history of Fido, Dido, the Big 7UP collaborations, the first character on there and everything, which is insane. I mean, people should really look into the history of Fido. That's really how has your foray into Web Three been so far? It's been a few months now. Well it it's been incredible, but it's because of these guys.

It's because of people like you for and the whole community is so open and inviting and interesting. It's a completely new language for me. I would be lost without all of the help that I'm getting from this incredible team. It it's really exciting. It's the coolest thing. I mean I I know I could not have predicted it. You know you guys were you were talking before about about art and and whether it, you know

expires or whatever. And I was thinking about this line from Rilca that says time is a runner who can never stop. And I feel like Art is a runner who can never stop. I feel like Fido is a runner who can never stop. I just didn't know where to take him next. It's gonna go on way beyond me is my feeling and and you know I feel like it was sort of a divine intervention just to find guys. It was nothing that I could have

planned or done anything about. It just happened and organic you know meetings of people and of like minds are are what have always I think driven the most interesting projects in in the world. It's just you don't plan it. You don't plot it, you just it happens. It's like a gift. Yeah, this is true. I mean, I'll speak for myself, but I think everybody on our side, like, we kind of just fell into Web 3. It's not like you chose like, hey, there's this thing let me

go and find. It's like, oh, whoa, like I'm here. Like this is, I'm just going to stay, right. Yeah. When you start building your home. I just have a quick question, Joe, do you actually like, do you actually like 7UP? Beverage. Or like do you like drinking 7UP? Or like do you prefer 7? And I have it this I have a better question. Do you think 7UP or Sprite? Definitely 7UP, babe. Even if I didn't have to say

that, I like 7UP a lot better. But my I I would say my my soft drink of choice is Pepsi, which is also politically correct answer. But even when I was a little kid, everybody wanted Coke. I always wanted Pepsi. It tastes. It tastes better. You OK? I like my Diet Cokes with a little bit of lemon in there or lime. But look, I I just love this whole collab. It really takes me back to my childhood, honestly. And it's so funny. I just love to see it like that.

And it's such an iconic character that pretty sure everybody kind of you know is familiar with if you've ever drank 7UP. And when was this? It was like early 2 salad. It was before that, right? And pain was in like 1980. 888 Fuck yeah, I wasn't born, but you know, I saw it once I was born, that's for sure. Loxy, did you Did you drink the Phyto Dido 7UP growing up? Yeah, I am. I am that old look at that.

We'll, I'll show you a little bit of the, I'll show you a little bit of the Gray and we'll move on. So funny. I love that. Listen, you guys obviously been doing some cool stuff. You had your mint. You made a big comeback in web 3 Joe like you were just talking about like for your character to exist forever and beyond yourself, which is something

that I find really beautiful. And obviously you have a great team supporting you and very caring team, mind you behind the scenes which is something that I think really cool. So what are the future plans for for Fido Dido Again open-ended question of course to to to the bottom row of the, of the, of the, of the, of the podcast here. But what? What are? What are the future plans here for for Fido? Yeah, let's, let's dig deep into that actually with a jaw.

First of all, we reconnect all the plugs, all the previous contact, all the network, all the all the resource she had. We bring back that, we brought back that with the licenses and and from that we created hype. And after this hype we say, OK, now we need to put it into the in the digital age, into web three. We need to build this new

company. Actually we're opening while we are speaking with Joe, we're opening an entity in Delaware where the IP will be on it, Joe's IP and Joe license will be on it. It's going to call Fido Lab and from that IP with this licenses actual license and future license we're going to link it to to the Web 3 ecosystems. So basically with in parallel we're minting on Monday don't forget that and take note put a reminder when we're minting on Monday and and we're we're rebranding fiber.

We're bringing this legacy of Joe and recreating the work she's she did and actually she did all the work a book deal she already did the 7UP deal. He made it a gaming license also and then we recreate that and bringing that to the web 3. So. So actually we're not building an web three IP. We're we're bringing this multi $1,000,000 in in past revenue IP this this web two IP into web three and offering for the community and for the holders to

to hold this pop culture icon. And of course with royalty program and for sure the past holders, the Genesis holders and the past collection will be the main key the real stakeholders. But of course we're integrating some yearly dividend and yearly royalties to the next PFP holders into all the future project that we're bringing on and we're going to speak about those projects. OK.

One thing I noticed which I I love when you do that, Joe, besides me, you have the like these little things, right? Like you have our logo right there. Like it's just little things like that that I find so fun. If you see that, looks like I just find it so cool. Like the rugged little right there. You did this. Pardon. Ralph on that he's he's ingenious. This is like also like this is so fire. Yeah, Ralph, you should talk about. Dude Ralph, Like this is so cool.

Let's give. Ginger his flowers here. Can we, can we, can we just say, can we just say that Ralph Ginger Potter is Fido in the flesh? He is Fido in the flesh talk. To me, more about that like this is sick. Broke, I think. Before he does, I think we need to. I think we need some like forecaster frames in the Fido tablet for sure, right? That's my God. Like, wait, let's go, Forecaster.

I didn't even have time to talk all this today because they're all Fido. Data would be talking like 2:00 PM if I go on about about Forecaster, right? I'll be. I've been busting over these fucking chops about it for, like, all morning long. Elan Locksley quit. I'm. I'm out here fucking on three different phones talking about Forecaster. But this is a great frame, by the way. So Ralph, Ginger Potter, Mr.

Flowers, Let's give him to you. Like, talk to me more about this spirit of collaboration that you guys have within Fido, Dido. All these logos on there. Of course I see toads, apes, black nouns, I think, or something like this. Anyways, see a bunch of cool logos. Talk to me more about this. Yeah, first of all, hello everyone. I'm a big fan of all of you here on the stage. My name is Ginger Potter. I've. I'm an artist. I've been a professional artist for like the past five years.

I created my Instagram. I started on 600 followers. Now I'm at 221 K and like basically, yeah. What's the Instagram? Ginger Potter, 21 damn genius. Five years of work, basically. So, so yeah, I've been like growing my account through my own art, basically. All of that from. Lebanon. Is that good? Is that good? Damn, this is sick. Everybody should just go on Instagram while you're on X with us. Just ginger powder 21, I guess. Fire.

Thanks so much for the plug. So yeah, basically I've been like doing my art for the past five years and growing my Instagram and all of that. And just like you mentioned though, I fell into Web three. Eventually, around two or three years ago, I became a one of one artist in the space, sold out multiple collections on most platforms, on Foundation, on Super Rare and everything, and been featured on Times Square in

NFTNYC. And yeah, basically it's been an amazing ride and the community that's been around me has embraced me so well. And part of those communities that I've met through the space is the Fido Dido community and Joe and Allan. And as soon as, like they approached me to create, to be the artist of this project, I just jumped at the chance to get on it. Because it is such a nostalgic project for me.

Like I was saying, I'm also Lebanese and born and raised in Lebanon and I've been surrounded in the 90s by Faido Daido wherever I go. Not just like the the 7UP cans and all of that, but also the T-shirts, all of the games, all

the toys, everything around you. You would see Faido, Daido, Faido, Daido. So for me it's what it's like a mascot for my childhood and being able to be part of this legacy is just amazing for me, a 40 year old legacy that that the aim for it is to live on far beyond me and and whoever comes after me. So for me like really I just enjoy every aspect of of this project.

It's so fun, it's so cheeky creating all of these fun different cartoons and if you check the Twitter, we started with the art with a certain idea and a certain aesthetic and it's evolved throughout the the process because it became more fun. We started out very like basic style and eventually there there were more shades and eventually it became animations. It's animated. So like most everything that I do is basically hand drawn on

paper. So like it's it's like the primitive type of way of doing animations. So they're they're drawn, they're hand drawn frame by frame and then scanned and created into the animations that you see in front of you. So I really enjoy the process and especially in working on this project has been an amazing ride and everything that's planned in the future, like we're planning on bringing back Fido on like 7UP bottles as well as working on on on ATV series and on a movie.

And I'm so excited for all of that. I started like writing out a story for all of these, a whole storyboard for the movie and everything. And it revolves around nostalgia and basically the struggle between us millennials on, between growing up and trying to still cling on, to cling on to the childhood that that was ours once before. So like, there's so much fun in this. There's so much 90s nostalgia,

which I love. And yeah, I just enjoy every aspect of it. And and I just can't wait for you guys to see everything that we have going on and we're preparing. So yeah. This is exciting. I I I'm a I'm a fan. I mean, Benny, did you see the the IG? In the meantime, did you see the art? Are you meeting at it? No, I was just looking at it. It's really great stuff. Like first of all, I noticed that you did a the Sam Spratt Son of Lucy thing which looks

amazing, not? Yes, Sir. Yeah, big fan of human AS. Well, no stuff looks your IG looks. I love this one. Where you're. Did I get it? Yeah, my brain floating. Also, I feel like I have to support you because anybody who's red haired, I understand the trauma and the and the pain that you have suffered in your life. I'm telling everybody it's everywhere. Red beards. It's going to be like the Web 3 Ginger, so it's JGING 3R like Ginger and it's going to be just a web and like we can maybe put

court group for all you guys. Not that many of us left. We're slowly dwindling down, so we. Need to protect you all cost because yeah, right. Ginger Potter's allowed in my tunnel, by the way. I'm just saying. Oh, OK, yeah. So Betty's building a tunnel. So you know, Benny's building a tunnel inspired by what happened at 770 in Brooklyn most recently. So he's going to be building a tunnel between Brooklyn and Paris. Paris, in case. Y'all but yeah, dangers of web

three could be a cool idea. I mean, there's a lot of y'all and the winds protect you and all the dangers I know are all chads, so you love to see that. Anyways, so the I'm gonna get, I'm so like there's gonna be a tweet right now saying sure. Anyways, anyways, anyways, sorry I get too excited. So here I am on the website, on the mirror article I see these awesome pieces of art. I see first thing I see is there's a mint and I see a price point that's fucking sick.

I see .003. So I see this automatically like this. Fire, Fire IP, fire people, fire artist Joe and and Ginger Potter, great team at Oasis, Alan and and Najib. You guys are really on top of things. Clearly you've done the marketing of this product and the project very well thus far. The arts is original and the mint cost is very low, which is super cool. So does one of you want to talk, you know, lastly like to leave the people on this?

How do they participate? What do they need to do and when do they need to participate? Oh yes, I will. I will explain that and I will let Najeeb finish with the tech details. Basically what's to be clear, the .03 is for the the fiddle list, what you call that.

It's the white it's closed but but to jump on and don't sleep on the public mint it will be just after that it .04 it and that's the price of the of of the this epic PFP we're offering and and created by Ralph let me talk to you as I'm as I'm telling you the work we're doing in parallel of that as I said we're not building an web three IT and web three IP and launching it and creating project in parallel we're doing project and bringing the license and the contact of Joe like

we're contact and we're going to post content of the prototype we're doing with 7UP and Pepsi International. We're going to, we're going to show the the Fido Bible we are doing. It's like the requirement to offer for big mainstream network and I want to make a statement here. Our goal is be the first Web 3 project to have his TV series in a mainstream network on Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon also. So thanks to Joe. Thanks to this IP. Thanks to 30 years of track

record. 30. Years, man, 30 years of of of of revenue and and licenses and and advertisement. We are bringing that for you, for the holder. We're building this company with the holders and the community and from that point we're we're going to spread the spread the philosophy and the vision and the work and it's going to be a product oriented project that's for sure.

And so, so that's it. The details are on as you can see the Genesis holder hold of course a right to vote on the next project behind the scene content and and some some dividend and we're going to call it a royalty program for now based on each project, the PFP holder we're going to hold a yield, A yearly dividend and and and some cool other stuff and of course and the most importantly it's the the right to license and throughout this royalty program you're going to be able

to license this legendary IP that we're bringing on Web 3. So that's that's what we are doing right now. That's the goal of the Mint. That thanks all of that thanks also to this amazing team. Thanks to Raz the artist. Thanks to Najib and the Oasis X Web three operator. They are so amazing. We have this strong team and beautiful team and and without Joe, we have, without her soul, her vibe, her positive vibe, we would be nothing. So it clicked. We're super cool.

We're super cool guys, thanks to this amazing lady here. And yeah, the sky is the limit. Let's don't sleep on us, actually. No, no, I think this is awesome even. But this see like I I I appreciate like we've seen so many mints like over the last three years something in a space and obviously we've wholesaled a lot. We've also partnered with a lot of people like yourselves and and and help them on that front and stuff. And when I see like a mint

price, I'm like OK, cool. Like all your royalty stuff IP things you're building is cool. But like, I'm cool just paying that to have the art part from Joe. Like, you know, I mean, like, it's like, I don't want to downplay what you're doing for sake, but it's just like, OK, cool, like one of four. Cool. Like they can go and build whatever they want to build, like, but I just want art and I think it's cool. So damn, Joe, I'm your work. Let's go.

And she told me how amazing you were with her in Art Basel. It's for for for a couple of calls and couple of meetings. She she just spoke about Art Basel and and how how how fun it was and how new IT was for her and to be to be surrounded by those people people and you were special to her and thank you for that before before thank. You, Joe. Thank you, Joe. I mean, Joe, I'm going to go to you for some last words here. Thoughts, excitement on what?

Talk to me, Joe. I I want to hear Najib's voice. That's what I want to hear. But I want to ask you real quickly, babe, who's the guy who was giving out the free bracelets of the free Necklaces at at your event? Michael Ray, the G These ones. Yeah, I have not taken it off since I got it from. He is gonna. Love this. He's probably in here. So Michael Ray who is the crypto jeweler.

I think he's been listening to me personally since like clubhouse days like three years ago plus and two years ago at Art Basel comes to me he's like hey I'd like to give you gift you this GM necklace and I he I go do you wanna put it on me. And he was like freaking out. I'm like yeah dude and I still haven't taken it off. I. Haven't haven't taken mine off. That's so cute. Same for my mom and my little brother. And Loxy was kind enough to give his away to somebody else.

So we're going to get him, get him more. But. That's so. Cute of you to say that because yesterday the timing's so funny. Yesterday Michael literally made a post about this. I'll send you guys in the chat here. If you want to. I can connect you off to give maybe do something with Fido, Dido holders or whatever. But it's he wrote a whole piece thanking us for like being part of Miami. And there's a photo of me with

the the GM thing. So crypto jeweler, quick little shout out, you know to A to a good friend and the hard working, you know, yeah, a hard working person in the space. Najeeb, we want to hear your voice now. I guess you. Have been passed on. To close us out. Nice. And I shall just a couple of points here. You were mentioning like you would collect this just for the art value of it. I 100% agree with you. Like all hand drawn, I remember Ginger when we did the Genesis

collection, 777 pieces. He drew every and each one of these and on our daily calls he would tell me like I'm seeing the world in black and white, like this is how much he was immersed in this And so the art value is there. And then second of all, like, really, we feel very blessed to have come across this project. The the, the IP value is insane

here. And what's 1. One thing we noticed in 2023 leading up to this year is that it's the projects that had proper IP value that survived and that will be thriving for the coming years. And these are the new web three IP projects. So imagine bringing something that's existing for 30 years and just extending that IP onto this new Renman new ecosystem. So there's no doubt that Fido would be a huge success here.

And yeah, we, we just can't wait for next week and the phase that's coming after that because it's going to be crazy for everyone that's participating in this. Look, best of luck with that. If Mando was here, I know what he would be telling you. He would be telling you the same thing he told me when we minted for day one is the mint Day is always the worst day. So when you go on your midday, I know it's funny advice to say, but it's expect everything to

break. Expect it all to go South, to go bad. Just wake up and tell yourself it's all going to go wrong because then it's going to only go up. And from there on for people like us. And then you guys are the same. Like the building part is the easy part, right? Because you've been doing it for 30 years now, Joe, right? You said 1985 fighter title, so it's like, you know you've been there, you've done that. So it's and that's the easy part and it's it's something that y'all are good at.

So anyways, excited to follow this mint. Excited to. I'm just excited. I'm going to like wait for y'all to go through the mint and all that good stuff and then I'm going to go have fun and like look on secondary for my forever final because I need something that reflects my punk or or myself and stuff. So excited to look into Great Joe Najib, Allah Potter. Thank you so much for coming on the show today for partnering with us. And I'm excited to do more with

you guys. I wanna let's find a way to work together, you know, a little. Bit let's connect in NFT Paris because I live between the Brussels and Paris. Well, you just heard yourself your invite to our VIP event. Let's go, man. Let's go, man. We're doing our house, Paris. Thank you. Yeah. So thank you guys. And I will bring some Lebanese food for the VIP room. Yo, it will be on me. It will be on me. Don't think. It will be the the Fido Lebanese. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Like after. Like, I'm Persian, so Persian food's my favorite, but Lebanese cuisine is my like up #2 or #1. Even with the Persian people like keep it, keep benaye. Everything you guys do is perfect. So thank you so much. I'm excited. We supply you the best in Paris. Deep in the culture. We bring some Lebanese restaurants. We we know all of them in Paris. We will bring all the food in the OH. No. Are you hearing this? Is Evan, the audience?

EV is the one on our side taking care of the event. EV, are you hearing this? We got we got some Lebanese food squared away for for this, but it's just for me, Just for me in the back and for locks again, just for me, all of it. Oh my God, I love Lebanese food. And yeah, deep in Lebanese culture. My, my first job growing up when I was 15, was working for three Lebanese brothers. And they taught me everything I knew about sales then.

So I I just loved the culture. May or may not have dated a crazy Lebanese woman once in my life, too. So, you know, I've been. Yeah, it happens to the best of us. But, you know, but I was the crazy one. I don't know, for it's worth, you know, I don't want to put the blame on anyone. It was a little bit of both. Here's your part of Joe Najib. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye, bye. Bye.