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BTC hits ATH, InfoFi battle begins, Texas passes BTC billFOMO HOUR EP363BTC hits new ATH of $111k. BTC on track for first golden cross since Oct. Funding rates on majors remain very low. BTC OI on Deribit at record $42.5b. Hyperliquid whale increases BTC position to $1.1bn. Miners appeared dumped BTC right before ATH. HYPE leads rally in L1s, nears ATH. Cetus on SUI faces exploit. IBIT now top 5 in YTD inflows across all ETFs. VanEck to launch private digital asset fund in June. Binance to list WLFI USD1 stablecoin. SOL Mobile’s 2nd Gen Seeker to ship from Aug 4. WLD raises $135m from VCs for expansion. Synthetix drops $27m Derive deal. Hong Kong passes stablecoin bill. Coinbase leak likely happened in December.FOMO HOUR brings you the biggest daily news, updates and events from inside and outside of the crypto and macro spheres! Join hosts Farokh, Mando and Tyler as they cover some of the biggest topics at present with some of the biggest names in the ecosystem. Streaming live 5 days per week, Monday to Friday 10:00 AM EST to 11:00 AM EST on YouTube and X.JOIN YEET = https://yeet.com/register?aff=fomohourPLAYLIST = https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSgoImPFTiVpkHhLXF78cE_Z3uG7VNGLPODCAST = https://x.com/i/spaces/1kvKpydgqMQGELIVE SPACE = https://x.com/i/spaces/1eaJbWmrkdrxXLinks:https://linktr.ee/fomohourhttps://twitter.com/fomohourhttps://www.rug.fm/https://x.com/rugradioHosts:https://twitter.com/farokhhttps://twitter.com/rektmandohttps://twitter.com/tyler_did_itMyriad:https://myriad.marketshttps://x.com/MyriadMarkets#bitcoin #crypto #podcast

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Good morning. Good morning everyone, GMGM and welcome to another episode of FOMO Hour. Hey, it's Thursday a 22nd 2025 and depending on where you're at in the world, it is still Bitcoin all time high day. What a day. Bitcoin smashed through all time high 111,700. I think I saw a peak. It's 111,000 right now. A lot of other coins are moving too and the question how high are we going? We're going to break it all down on today's show.

No, for Oak, he's travelling, he's got some meetings today, but we've got Mando and Logan in the house. And GM, how you doing? What AGM, What AGM, It was volatile yesterday, but it was, it was good. It's good. I expecting a same sort of day today. I think we, we're in, we're in some clean air at the moment. You, you never know where this is going to end when Bitcoin starts breaking all time highs. But it's been, it's been a fantastic 24 hours.

Been fun to watch and, and how volatile was yesterday. We we, we got the technical all time high hit an immediate sell off like 3 1/2% just to to wipe some folks out. It'll happen again today. Just to let you know it'll happen exactly the same every day if you it is your first pick on all time high, which I I don't know if it will be, but know that every day is super volatile. No, you'll get a good entry. Well. It certainly played out like that yesterday.

Logan, Jim, how are you feeling today as you celebrate Bitcoin all time High? Yeah, good morning. I'm feeling well. The weather is still miserable here, but the market cheering cheer me up a little bit. I got a text from my dad this morning asking me about what the easy and hard roads were, so I'm hoping we're getting ready. That's probably a bad sign, actually. Let's let's address that question for your dad. But I I hope we're getting ready for easy Rd.

Yeah, well, your, your dad's clearly on top of that. And As for the weather, who cares what the weather is right now? Like it's easier when the weather's bad. It's easier just to stay in lock in on the screens a little bit because there's been a lot of action. Wasn't sure if it was going to be a just a Bitcoin rally with alts lagging, but it looks like some alts are starting to move. So we're going to talk about that on today's show. We're going to go through the

market report. We're going to go through the SUI exploit cracking, breaking news. They're launching tokenized stocks, Solana Mobile in a new Solana ecosystem token tied to that lost coin and believe that they've got some new competition, a new rivalry in the ICM markets. We've got FIFA dropping on AVAX plus more. Before we dive in, shout out to our partner Wallet Connect. Wallet Connect is the connectivity network shaping the future of Monchain UX.

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So yeah, we did. We kind of already touched upon it a little bit, but we've seen Bitcoin smashed through the all time high. It just flirted with it, touched it and then dumped a little bit. I think I bought I bought ETH bag, I think at 20. Was it 2460 yesterday on one stage I think it was there was definitely it was 24 handle. I there was a few of these which just wicked horrifically and yeah, it was that, right? Yeah, 5460.

I definitely bought some about that, but it was it was AI think we're just going to keep on seeing this. It's starting to hit, you know, mainstream starting to pick up on it. CNBCS run articles, you know, Bitcoin all time high yesterday was not a great day for for macro. So what you've been seeing in macro is bond yields have continued to go higher, but by bond yields, by the way, I just been like people's perception of what interest rates are going to be in the future and those

continue to go higher. And because of the high amount of debt globally, you know, US 10 year, we've already spoken about if this goes up above 5%, it's going to be it's going to be a bit of a worry. And the stock market is starting to react a little bit. So it was down yesterday on the back of that, which is, which wasn't a great sign. And this is not just in the US either, like Japan is, is where people are most worried about and their bond yields just keep

on hitting new highs. So strange 1 and increases the the worry about tail events. Ray Dalio's out there at the moment being like, you need to pay attention to this, like this is all going to end horrifically. And I don't think he's necessarily wrong, but I don't know if I think crypto could do well, let's say as one of the assets that performs well in even in that environment, gold

will be the other one. But I do think that's why Bitcoin is so strong at the moment and probably why dominance has remained so strong as well, because this is not like a RIP roaring rally that's taken us to all time highs.

It's been 1 where there's been fears just around the the chance of some sort of crazy thing happening in the bond market and and that nuking everything that's that's kind of taken Bitcoin, at least high Bitcoin dominance has has come down a touch today because ETH rallied and and most of the L1's also rallies had a little bit of an altcoin season. It's amazing how much alts move with just a small dip in Bitcoin

dominance. Do you know what I mean Like Bitcoin dominance has gone from it's down half a percent today. How nuts is that? And and you've seen big moves across the board in all coins. The biggest ones have probably been hyper liquid continues to grab the attention. It's one of the few coins here which is doubt to breakthrough all time high and that was what it achieved back in December. So it's a 31. I think the all time high was around 3435. But a lot of positive momentum

right now. I think the fact that James Wynn has got this like unbelievably massive trade on Hyper Liquid is very good advertisement for the for the whole thing as well. And it's been yeah, it's been a good, good, good trade, I think for everyone who's who's kind of been in it. The other big one big move is you start to see some of the, the, the major meme coins move. I would say so far coin finally broke 1.5 definitely been one of the better performers over the

last 24 hours. Mog has had a decent move. You've had Pepe have a decent move. You've had I would say yeah, Eve eve memes and and some I think it says WIFT. WIFT did OK yesterday yeah, it's memes are definitely picking up, let's put it that way and AI those those narratives are coming back as the things that

people want to own. I'd still be wary here just because I don't think participation is anywhere near as high in this rally as it was in previous ones and I think it's mainly around Bitcoin. So but it does feel as though if if can keep going, then an altcoin season can still can still be. So we talked about and people will automatically get drawn into the the most risky, risky

stuff, right Macro news. I think the the biggest like crypto wide headline has been coming out about these these exchanges now moving into tokenized assets and it's moving quite quickly now. You had buy bit do it earlier in the week and then today you've had cracking come through and say we're going to do it too. It feels as though the next move would really be Coinbase here. They they'd spoken about doing tokenized coin, coin stock, if you remember on their platform.

If they were to move it to other ones, that would be a very big, a big move. Particularly it would be for global users. I don't think they'd do it in the US, but that they clearly feel like they can do this. So I think that's a good sign, yeah. Other signs of like massive risk taking other than James Wynn, funding has not gone that high across the board. It's remained pretty low, but open interest has gone high. So I think there's a lot of people coming in and doing the

basis trade. But yeah, it's not normally last time Bitcoin like went above these sort of levels, funding like really spiked, really, really spiked. And it hasn't these time these times. So it probably points to the idea that we probably are in a market of depressed funding for for a while now and only now that will change. There was a big deal for Worldcoin. They got 135 million led by

A16Z. And then we've seen this morning that that one of the major D5 protocols on SUI is facing it was, it was still unclear to me because I'm not a dev, but like there was talk of either being hacked or that the Oracle provider, the major Oracle provider for the decks had been facing an exploit. Either way, there is someone draining 10s of millions of dollars from that platform right now and bridging to other change. I think he's bridging the eve. So that interestingly, Siri just

hasn't really reacted. I think people just know like whenever this sort of stuff happens, you meant to like buy the dip, but Oh no, it's reacting a little bit more now actually like like rallied, which I thought was like kind of strange. But look, we've spoken about that. We don't really know what happens on SUI that that often. This was one of the few major D5 protocols on SUI and for it to get hacked it it will really

affect their TBLI. Don't can I bring it up live SUI TBL Sui TVL right now is down 10%. It's it's it had gone above 2 billion. It's now at 1.9. I don't know if that's even delayed. I would imagine a lot of people taking their money off sui right now and then some other headlines. Obviously this is this is a period right now where you're getting headlines from chains. There's a lot of like Solana week, Sui week, Avax week. Avalanche announced their partnership with with FIFA

today. I thought it was big, but maybe not as big as people were making out to be. And yeah, that's about it. Yeah, and that's a great rundown. Maybe let's just take into this this we exploit a bit and then we'll go back to Bitcoin in majors here. So I think it's still a little unclear exactly what happened. So let's let's start there. I thought this breakdown from Abby, well, it was pretty good

here. So basically see this protocol, one of the primary LP's on SWE suffered A Simpkin exploit it looks like and then the exploiters have been draining the LP's. What happened in the wake was basically all the top tokens on SWE instantly dropped 80 to 90% as the their liquidity pools were being drained. We see it still now. So like the number one like Lofi down 75%, this Hippo token down 80%, Squirt down 90%. So that was a part of the immediate impact there.

It looks like it was 200 million in total so far. That's what the early reports are saying. So fairly significant as you mentioned, they they've been taking some of it off off chain. I think the USDC token on Suite D pegged quite a bit during all of this as well. I was unable to find the the specific chart for that. I think a couple reactions on my side.

So the tote suite had reached $424.20 right before all this happened, likely one of the the bigger alt movers, I mean at 5 or 6% and then now it's giving back those gains. I don't think it's huge surprise, but I haven't seen on the timeline and maybe this is not surprising. There's a lot of people who are personally impacted by this. Didn't that say a lot? You've seen a lot of folks kind of racing to talk about it. Yeah. I haven't seen anyone say like oh shit my my hippo position is

down 80%. I forgot about sui Dang that. Was a big one. I think you have Moodang or. Not Moodang. Oh, so Moodang is up on the back of that. Oh, Jesus. Moodang is probably the play. Moodang is probably the play my friends. Those candles are tough. Wow, Yeah, it was. I'm going to. Buy some moodang. Why not? It was 300 million, so maybe the maybe Moodang backers were behind this to kill off one of their. Yeah, maybe this, Maybe this was really about Moodang all along.

Moodang up 8%. Come for the hippo. You better not miss, you know. I wonder how O VS OG Moodang has been responding. We got check in on the OG mooding major mooding token spread here. I am curious what this means like I think this is a bit of a blow to sweet here and a little bit early to react. It was on my like top five, top eight list of like potential fastest alt horses in a in a Bitcoin rally. Now I'm curious if it gets crossed off the list.

Logie, what do you think? Yeah, it's really interesting because we just talked about not really knowing too many people that are personally affected, yet at the same time it felt like this was a chain and a brand that just had a ton of momentum at least as as alts go. So same, same sort of thing for me, Tyler, like as far as considering other potential baskets, you know, should a real and true alt season come around.

This was of course an ecosystem that I I kind of had on my list is like, hey, definitely want to check this out. And to me, yeah, this, this just feels like a major momentum staller. You know, kind of think about the NBA playoffs and things like that, how you can just feel the momentum of a moment shift so dramatically. Kind of feels like one of those events at the same time, as Mando noted, a lot of these things over time, you just get

shrugged off, right. So they're they're it also presents a pretty clear opportunity likely with any very legitimate tokens. It's difficult with meme coins, of course, but like, yeah, you pull up walrus here. Any, any other like legitimate ecosystem assets here on SWE that you have conviction in, should you already know them or that you had interest in potentially learning about?

You know, now is maybe a really good time to kind of like dig your claws in a little bit and see if there's something of substance here as attention and as, you know, feelings about we and these particular protocols may be kind of at a local low, I would imagine. So I, I think you could, I think you could go both ways. For me personally, it just feels like a yeah, feels like a definite, like a reset stall of a lot of momentum that it had been built in building over the

last couple weeks. I think you brought you brought up a really good point and like we've seen this before, if the team comes out, addresses it, you know, perhaps finds a way to make impacted users whole. I think this is a a blip that you can get past. And to your point, maybe it slows down near term momentum. But with the the financial power behind this one, with folks like Raul Paul behind it, I'm definitely not going to cross it off the list of runners.

Like I still I would not bet against Sui making a new all time high in 2025. Let's just say that. Yeah, I think one of the things I'm trying to like hit myself over the head with a little bit more recently too, and I think Mando has said this on the show and I think OSF has tweeted a handful of times as well, is like just like needing to be OK with buying the really bad headline stuff you.

Know what I mean? If if the you know the conditions are right for it. Like, of course, if SUI or any other thing had bad headlines, you know, and, and it wasn't a real protocol or whatever, then you, you may not buy it. But if you actually like believe in Sui, you know, I'm not a foremost expert on it. But if, if you actually believe in it, like these really bad headlines present themselves

with great opportunities. And I'm trying to get better just emotionally myself as like being OK, you know, 'cause I'm just like everybody else. And when the, the bad starts piling up, you get sheepish and, and scared. So I'm trying to beat myself over the head with that type of stuff that like, hey, now may be the time, right For for those that are seeking an opportunity. Yeah, very good call. Well, let's go back to the big dog. We had to talk about the sweet exploit.

But the biggest news of the day is still by far Bitcoin new all time high. I think it hit one 11700 and 11,750 overnight. Still hanging. OK, it's still hanging out at 111. Logan, your dad, he text you? I think that's a great question. Are we on the easy road or are we still on the hard Rd. So we're referencing Kobe who it was John Something who basically said the road to 110 K is the hard one and then the road to 200 or 250 K is the easy 1. So do we think we finally have

broken through 110 K for real? I don't know if that's directed at me, but I, I don't think I'm, I'm quite ready to say that we we've broken through, but it feels like we're getting ever closer that that's what I'll say. I mean, it was what just a just a couple months, which feels like eternity, you know, sort of this choppy stuff. And we're not too much above the all time high that we set. When was that? Was that November with the first one O 8 or whatever? December, December.

OK, so I mean, five months feels like much, much longer than that. I think we're getting, I think we're getting close. It's just, it's difficult for me to, you know, I, I didn't pay close enough attention to like the Bitcoin moves during the last cycle. I, I was more focused on NF TS and stuff like, you know, like a lot of folks were. So it's difficult for me to remember the potential violence. I saw somebody tweet this morning, you know, about the move in 2017.

It might have been Moon Overlord or something like just how violent it can get, how swiftly you can go up. It's difficult for me to know and feel and remember the the easy Rd. for real. So I'm sure I'll know when we get there. I think we're getting closer. I don't know that I'm ready to say we've maybe hit that accelerator path just yet. I'm looking back at 2017. This is really before my time. April 2017 Bitcoin was 1000 and

it ran to 17,000. So I think that's the type of banana zone move folks are talking about. And then 2021, the parabolic move from October the year before 11 K up to 63 and a full 50% drawback by through summer in the late summer, so like in July bottom and then November was the peak 67 K before the that bear market started. What number do we need to hit to to the think that we're safely on the easy Rd. Is it one 15120?

For me, again, not the foremost macro expert, but like a really big psychological for me would be more like 125 Ki. Don't I don't know why that's just the the number of stands out to me. Mando's going to have a much more, you know, educated guess here. I would I would imagine than what I can provide you. I, I actually have no, no clue. That's, that's kind of the good thing about this is that like when it, when it breaks all time high, there's nothing in the chart that can tell you when,

when it will stop. Like if it's hitting new all time highs, you can judge from like the last time it broke like where it faced significant resistance. So I think the last all time high was well, like 72.

And then when it broke that it kind of didn't really hit resistance until 90. And then we, we battled around there for a while and obviously then we went all the way back down to like 72. So when you say we've constantly breaking 110, what I would always say, I always say this like you will get another chance. You might even get another chance to buy Bitcoin below 100, just like have that in your mind. So like when you're like, oh, I need to go all in.

The higher it goes, the less long you should be. Let's put it that way. So change that for your mindset a little bit more. Yes, some of the old coins will have some some huge moves, but you should have been longest AT80K and now you should know that the volatility is really going to pick up. So even in a day like I, I saw, I told you when we hit all time highs, I was selling some of my ETH position. I managed to buy back 5 or 6% lower than that on ETH. But that's not a small move.

I would always be wary of being maxed long at the highs. You're not James Wynn. Speaking of big game James, let's pull up, let's pull up his position. So at one point he had a billion in this position on a huge 40X long on Bitcoin. He had 10X long on Pepe and it looks like he's also 10X long on sweet. I don't know if that's been added in the overnight, but he is down a bit on the the sweet long. Overall, his position's up 24,000,000.

Notably during yesterday's volatility, he went from being up 13 million to down 19 in like an hour. So $32 million swing, but then it's bounced back. He's big in the green. I, well, I didn't realize. I didn't realize he got liquid. He was going to get liquidated at 90, at 90, whatever, it's happened. I thought that's what his entry was. His entry is pretty fucking high. It's high and he like he added to it.

I think at one point his his his like average injury was like one O 8. Like to be long. A billion from 109 K like that is. That is ballsy to say the least. It is ballsy to to say the least. His what's been going around today is his pin to tweet. I don't get this guy chilling. He's chilling Moon pig. Right now. Oh yeah, he's so. Confused about everything about this. Why? Would he be doing that? Why does he need to do that?

So many questions. Apparently this guy, I think Froak said yesterday, there's, I have not dug into this funding from like an Alameda source. He was early to the Pepe trade, bought Pepe at like 3 million or 300 K or something absurd and made some huge Pepe calls and now he's just along with a a $1 billion position with Bitcoin. That's not enough for him.

He's spending the rest of his time bull posting moon pic a a new meme coin that I've never even heard of before he was talking about it. It looks like this thing has actually been around for a little while but he sent it up 160% in the last day. So this is the top meme mover on the board now closing in on 100K and if big game James is behind it that's that's enough for me. Just close where I did buy some of this before the show. So here we go.

All right, all right, with James Wynn for a little bit, but I want what I want to talk about. He's now for big game James is that is that purely a moon pig thing is that is that now change your change your terminology around him. I feel like we're we're, we're good buddies now that we share the same meme coin. Position. So we're getting a little more chummy. Are you in a? Are you in a chat by any chance? You might as well go into the moon Pig Wales.

I wish I'd be a lot richer if if I was. To the moon digs, you know. I'll get on that after the show, see if I can jump back. He's like, he was running in spaces yesterday too. It's just like a wild thing to do. But this is his pin tweet. He is saying that we're in the hope phase right now or April was hope, May, June optimism and saying in July blow off top. I don't know exactly what numbers he's calling for here.

You would have to. I mean that's looks like 150 to me. I've never seen this chat before. What is this chat? OK. I know we're not. Brother, like every single fucking gay. I think I see this chart. I don't know. I've never seen this chart before. Once in my life when I used to trade in trap fire and then I came to crypto and it was just like the only chart that anyone looked at. Yeah, I'm with you there. But I think it's an interesting discussion on kind of where does

where do things go from here. So basically this thesis is that Bitcoin blows off top this summer, July and then we dip back down and like following this, like we would potentially dip back down to like 100K below 100K, which to me is kind of hard to fathom that we would like what would send this to 150 K and then all the way back. I feel like if we went all the way back and gave that. Global liquidity has come down a bit. Global liquidity has come down.

So I would say, and this again is just my, my history of altcoin season is that they are generally 2 to 3 weeks long. And I would say it maybe started even a week ago with, with with pectra. So I would say maybe we have two, two weeks, maybe 3 and then I'd be wary. This is just my like people always think that altcoin season lasts for months. They do not. They really, really do not. That's. All we're going to get, it's going to be a little

disappointed. But you can still have like stuff go to a billion, I'm not saying, but like it always moves so quick. Like Peanut went from 150 to a 2 billion. You will have like you will see a few more of those stories. Yeah. I just, I'd just be wary. But if you think it's going to last until July, it's probably going to last until June. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's fair. And I don't want us to forget that Ethan is up 40% already.

Yeah. And since May 7th, so in the last two weeks, it's up 1800. No, 2700 now. Nice. It's actually going up quite a bit. It's not the only Yeah, go ahead. Where was the peak for most alts? It was like December. Solana kept on going but most other things kind of peaked by the 1st week of Jan maybe or like the last week of December. It was. And I think start, yeah, that was 8 weeks. That was 6 I guess, wasn't it?

Well a lot of people are are are going to misremember how the meme cycle went and think Trump was the top. But in fact memes actually topped in early December at Doge and then fell from 137 to 40. Wow, 100. Billion. So how long? How long was that? Let's just have a look at that. So peak, peak to peak and the meme coin market cap was from November. What was that dip there? So that was the 11th. So that was the. Election, yeah. Yeah, so like the election.

So let's say the 5th of. It was a month. Yeah, yeah, that, that's what I would say. I think you got, you got a month and I would say there's, there's less participation in this one. So it could be, it could be less, but things can go wild in that time. Yeah, it's it makes for an interesting June set up for sure. I want to dig into what has been moving. So I mean, clearly like the top alt is high. I mean, man, this thing is going 3150 now I'm out of position on this one.

It basically feels like we're kind of getting into price discovery that the highest daily close is 32. It it did Wick higher. It Wick to about 35, but but it's it's basically an all time high as I I haven't seen the hard date on this. The the team they're printing fees and they're buying it somewhere between 3:00 and $5 million back of the token per day. So I mean it, it's got a good narrative. It seems like a lot of folks behind it good fundamentals.

Arthur Hayes is calling for a hundred, a hundred per height token. Do we think it gets there? Do we think this is the the main alt? Yeah, yeah, I do. I do. I think it goes to 100. I think PUPS also goes to 100. Arthur Hayes has been very good at calling these sort of things. Pups. Predictions for every single altcoin that he owns literally he just says every single one that he owns is going to multiple billions. I I I think hyper liquid could, but that would flip solana, just

to be clear here right? So keep that in mind. I it it may, it may, yeah, I don't know. It looks expensive on some metrics. On the buy back, I think it looks expensive and on the but on the chain metrics it doesn't. But yeah, when when people try and compare it, they always compare against, they always compare against a theorem rather than radium. And that's that's an interesting one. I feel like I've been overly cautious on this one ever since I exited and you're coming on like late.

Like it almost feels like late longs entering here. Like I mean, it's already made a huge move. I'm very like 100 is like such an easy number to call out. But then you're saying like it is literally it's going to be the same FTV as Solana. Like that doesn't feel right like that. That doesn't really pass the the snip test, the gut test for me. Now if Solana double S and Salon is at 200 billion, could have to do 100. Yeah, I think that's a different conversation perhaps.

So I think you need to see some more upwards movement quite a bit and some of the other alt movers to get there. What also seems out to me is like why are are other protocols not copying this model? Like it just seems so obvious to me. So what would you mean by that? That also the debt spot Max yeah as long as it's GMX, there's none of them have just managed to get to scale I I don't know what has worked for hype and what didn't work for the others. I, I, that is a very good question.

Like why did hype work so much better than the others? I think mainly because it got people, everyone got hooked on the air drop and it is a, it is a better platform. So the, and now it's got this like flywheel of like liquidity staying there, but I don't know if there's not going to be a better perp decks that comes out in five years. Do you know what I mean? Like it is this is not a Moat to a perp deck. There's lots of different ones

that get created. I think it's interesting to see like if they will go down the route of tokenized stocks and stuff like that, like that is something that will draw even more people to the centralised exchanges if the centralised exchanges are the only ones that are able to do it. And you know, there's a lot of rules around perps, which This is why like Coinbase doesn't have that perps for a lot of things in the US, right? Only for commodities.

There's a lot of questions with hyper liquid about whether like they are really going to have to operate in the same way that they have so far in the US because Coinbase only allows Bitcoin and ETH. Maybe is it right now and maybe like other things which are commodities, but largely it's a very difficult. That's the one thing they are going to regulate is perp Dexes. They've been pretty explicit about that. So we'll see. I'd like to be fair, hybrid has been a great trade.

I'm not, I'm not trying to I'm just trying to say the things if you want to have your the things that you want to be aware of, if you want to go big in it is that you know that them facing some form of investigation or them or yeah, I think the valuation 1 is probably fine. Like I think no one really cares about the valuation in a bull market as long as James wins around. James Win has helped drive this.

We might even give him full credit for the cyber liquid pump, even even the move from 9/9 to the 30. We'll give it to we'll give it to James the other alts there. I mean pretty undeniable with with the market flock to and I guess world coin had its own news. But when I look at this board, it's AI and memes. So you've got world, it's an AI trade. Tau is the number six mover at one point. Fed was up there as well. It's like a maybe yeah, that's

top ten. Then you've got SPX part coin folky with so I I think it's some some clear signal at least early on. And what folks are going to be buying our coin? What what, what do we think here? It's just been grinding up. I think Froak said Dollar sixty is the next level we're going to get. The his charts his his. Charts, we go to $1.60 and then we'll do the the same song and dance where we just consolidate, dip. It probably goes back to $1.30. I'm just wondering.

As a chart, it just looks so relaxed. Do you know what I mean? Like basically since 300 million, it's just like this, this unbroken chain higher. It's kind of looks very similar to the Bitcoin chart actually. That's what I was thinking a little bit. Real tips, just it's kind of gone higher.

It's unlike I, I don't really recall seeing many other meme charts like this and I've been deep in the the meme game since 2023. Typically even like your outperformers like with had three big 70% drill downs before my vertical. I guess FARC one kind of had that last year. It had an early 70% dip. This one's, yeah, this is a 50 percent, 60% dip back in December. So maybe early on in in its life

it did maybe the holder base. Maybe when the holder base just gets this big it it kind of softens out the curve about like 152,000 holders on this thing. It's almost been like too comfy of a hold like if you know what I mean. Like that, there really hasn't been days where you're really sweet. It's definitely the coin to buy on any sort of a bad day. That's that is what Farpoint is.

I think if it were to get a spot listing at Coinbase or Finance or Robin Hood, for example, that would be the thing that would make me more wary of buying a dip. Let's put it that way. Like if it would rally and then I would probably tell someone that that really happened just because I think that that's kind of part of the reason why there's always a such a strong bid for it. Like people know it's always going to get it will get a

listing sometime soon. But yes, it is a very good dip buying sort of I'm trying to think what else is like feels just like that Pepe maybe, but Pepe, Pepe is a bit more volatile, I would say. And it's it's at times it's felt like, oh God, maybe that was it for the cycle for Pepe. It's it's really just been Bitcoin and far coin, which which have felt like that. I don't think there's really

been anything else. It's just like, yeah, there's always a buy for it. Maybe Hyper Liquid would would be another one actually maybe hype. But hype at times also felt really fucking bad, right? I mean, this was a rough stretch for hype. Yeah, right. It had it faced the export.

You went from 27 to 9. No, I mean, since over the last month, I mean over the last month, it does look like Hyper Liquid was another one of those coins that like if you didn't buy it at the start of this move, this broader move like you, you didn't really get a chance to. Yeah, it's been much easier since April 7th. That that is a fact. Sometimes I think I. Oh, man, what is Fartcoin's explosive mood?

What's the catalyst? Pepe's four times bigger than it. I mean, Pepe's hanging out, casually hanging out at 6 billion right now. There's. There's big blasphemy about Pepe. That's, well, going for ship, my friend. Pepe is going for ship my friend. I want that dad, but I think I think all we want all the the boats to rise here's like that. That's what that's what raises the ceilings. Trump coin is still at. I mean, it's at 15 billion FTV. The Mason It's the dinner this week, no?

Yeah, dinner's tonight. Oh wow. Justin Sun's in in Washington. Yeah, Bitcoin pizza day, Trump dinner day. It's a big. Day. Is that a conspiracy right there? Bitcoin all time high just happens to be in the day that that Trump holds a dinner. That's a little bit of conspiracy like. I'll get to take credit for it as well. If that's going to be a thing, I'm going to need Trump dinners

every day. I. Mean that's not out of the question either There's been two this month and they are very likely to to continue. Well, let's keep going around the board the the out the risk curve AI tokens had a nice day as well. So I talked about the majors with Tau and set worldcoin. I guess virtual was kind of even, but there was some decent movers cookie moved quite a bit, so it it's continuing to grind up on the back of its info. If I launch wasn't sure if

yesterday we were late. Looks like no, we weren't that late. It's up another 26% since yesterday's show. So cookie back up to a 250 million FTV, still 8X off of Kaido. So, so perhaps some more room to run and that one a buzz up quite a bit. And there was a new pre sale yesterday, one of the better performing pre sales in sometime. This distributed AI token, they're looking to kind of like an AI version of of GRASS that the GRASS token I've seen it's like distributed compute.

You can run it locally on your machines to empower a broader scaling of AI tools and products. So this thing shot out of the gate, hit 50 million. It's kind of been chopping a little bit. So it was around 35,000,000. The presale was 30 was 15. So presale was up 2 1/2 X. The other one was the new Launch Coin competitor. So I'm not sure if folks saw this a bit of drama on the Internet capital markets

yesterday. So, so Launch Coin had been cruising up to 260 million now down 25% on the day, hanging out on 185 and around support the the broader ecosystem down quite a bit. It was like 430 yesterday morning. It's at 300 million now. So it's down about 30%. And part of the driver, let's see if I've got the tweet is from a new competitor. So gavel came out yesterday, but they're more their their model is a more, they're going for more equitable on chain token

distribution. Basically what they mean is a way to avoid snipers. So their models. Just this looks so Silicon Valley it's not even funny. You know, there's like everything about that just looks like Silicon Valley. We we're going to gavel your new like all better VCI Bet they've got a great presentation. They've probably got like a nice little video trailer for the whole thing. God, I just makes me want to throw up my mouth looking at that. And continue, Yeah, sorry about that.

Yeah. So I've basically described what it is. So they they have a little bit better model for how these ICM tokens. So in a couple of markets team like a real builders launching a product and who want to launch a token, they can do it. It's not exactly like open public markets where snipers can take advantage. They they use like a a pre sale. So it can still be public, but in a more fairway.

I think what caught everyone's notice was Raj Solano Raj rallied behind this, totally rallied behind this. Kobe said it was cool and someone's retweeting this. So like everyone was kind of in the a lot of people saw this at rallied. They launched their initial token IBRL, which soared out of the gate to 70 million briefly 60 plus sold off about 50% now hanging out around 40 million.

So couple impacts new launch coin believe app competitor when this dropped came out it everything sold off was a massive liquidity suck, which to me is kind of a a sign of health or lack thereof in this broader ecosystem right now. That one $50 million runner just destroyed everything else on the board in the ICM era sector memes were were fine, but then it also forced Ben Pasternak to to respond.

So he immediately came out and, and shared an update about the new website live, more endorsed launches happening, which which was the next round of flood because then this club token, this this founder launched this club token. Pashmak responded with eyeball emojis. So people start piling in. Then the founder launched a second token. Total chaos. And I think that is what drove this kind of second leg down. So what? What?

Can I ask what do you own now? Tyler, I know you like you get involved in a lot of different stuff and made-up to reveal everything, but what are what are your main plays? Because I think my plays are a bit more bigger things right now. Like I own right now in ETH, pretty much every ETH major ETH meme coin. And it's a pepper and it's a mog rect, obviously. Solano. I have Epic obviously, and then have a bit of Falk coin, but that's kind of it. And I just bought some Moodang, actually.

Cheeky bit of Moodang. What What, what are you involved in? That's the long tail of Tyler's portfolio. Bitcoin and far coin barbell is like 80%. OK. Wrecked is my third biggest position now, I'm happy to report. So that's been a big one. I've been getting into a couple other ETH memes and I actually trimmed 75% of my long score position yesterday. So like that had been one of my bigger positions. I think yesterday was a sign a that they're going to face more

competition. I don't know if Gabel is the one that's going to disrupt them, but it's unclear. They have a huge Moat. There's still a bull case. So I don't want to say I've given up on launch coin. If if passion, I can team bring some good founders to the table with good successful projects. It can certainly rally again so that there's still a bull case, but the bear case has a higher likelihood I think now than perhaps it did. And then yesterday's flooded launch, I think it was just

another one. So trim that I'm not really like I I have been dabbling in the salon meme ecosystem, but in a much smaller scale. So just like small bets, just to have some fun on a day-to-day basis, nothing crazy.

So like moon Pig's not like some massive position for you or like you're not in all in on like house coin or anything like this, because I know some if that's really interesting, isn't it, Because I feel like we we all were involved in a lot more of those sort of coins as Bitcoin was breaking all time high last time. Yeah, I feel like I'm playing much tighter. Yeah. And I feel like other people are as well, but that that's my read. But but Logan curious for for

your. Reason, yeah, same goes for me. I'm I'm not like actively really doing too much. Some of that was because you know, I just got back from Peru and stuff, but other part is because I feels just so much safer and some of those other assets and it also feels simultaneously foolish to be dumping money into Moon Pig and shit like that when Bitcoin is breaking all time highs. Well. You shouldn't feel.

That, well, I don't know if you know, that's just like some sort of emotional feeling that you know, is isolated to me or or not, but every dollar that I'm not putting towards, you know, like a, a Bitcoin type play, you know, those we talk about what, you know, what is felt like that safe grind, steady grind up far coin Bitcoin, like every dollar that I'm not putting towards those just feels wasted elsewhere.

You know what I mean? And I'm not highly confident because I, I was not actively participating in the trenches and stuff. I just, I don't have any feel for what's going on. And as you noted, $150,000,000 runner is, is pulling from everything else. There's just, there's just not allowed, not enough love to go around right now. So if you are trying to like, you know, who knows, maybe enjoy your summer if the sun ever shines here again or stuff like that.

You, you really, you really are not enjoying the weather, man. Go back to Peru. I need to get back to Peru. It's so bad it rains. Dude, you need to get out of there right now. It rains every freaking day here. But anyway, yeah, I mean, if, if that stuff ever comes around, I want to feel a little bit better whilst still holding, you know, to upward trajectory. I just, I just feel silly putting the money elsewhere.

Oh, I mean I'm looking at I'm scrolling this decks board there like there's nothing going on. Like there's not like not really any new memes running like. How much is Liboo Boo to me today? What what? What's that? Our our, our, our social intern was tatting Lib Boo Boo very early. He was in it like 2 months next on that. So this is I guess this is one of the biggest moves of the day as well. It's about 160% Boo Boo.

I guess Asia loves these things is the pitch that I was told Aja loves this la Boo Boo. I don't know anything bro, but the the intern's quite happy today. Big on we Boo. Big on WeChat. We got a couple minutes left. Logie, I wanted you to take us through a couple other of the stories. So the Solana mobile story is actually pretty big. So can you give us the the the quick rundown on this? Yeah, so of course everybody knew the Seeker was coming.

It's a second generation mobile phone following the saga. What we didn't know and what was announced yesterday was that one pre-orders will start shipping on August 4th. So people who have placed the pre-order should expect phones in the next couple months. And then also too, it's coming with a new decentralized sort of infrastructure and architecture.

And perhaps the biggest thing here that I've buried is that the Seeker SKR token, the native asset kind of of the Solana mobile ecosystem designed to be just that, you know, beyond just one phones. This is not just like a Seeker phone, not to mix the two, but not just a Seeker phone token, but really for the entire Solana Mobile ecosystem. So I spoke to the GM of Solana Mobile yesterday for the

article. It's up on decrypt and you know, he told me that they want to bring everybody along for the ride, everybody who's participating in this ecosystem and what they've done with T pin and sort of opening, creating this sort of decentralized open mobile ecosystem, you know, which is designed to sort of think about it from a developer

perspective. You know, where Apple and all the all the gatekeeping and all those concerns, right, that have forever been brought up as it relates to crypto apps and you know, just apps in general, trying to make that an open network, this open, permissionless, trustless network for developers, users, participants. And so that's where you know that the token and the infrastructure come into play token to power things, the native asset of that ecosystem and the infrastructure, which is

called T pin. I'm not the technical guy, so I'm not going to break it down here on the show for you, but you can learn more about it that to help, you know, empower it quite literally. So yeah, I guess we'll see what what it looks like. We don't know token launch details. We don't know tokenomics or anything just yet at this point in time. But we do know the phone is coming in early August. It's still available for pre-order, I think around $500.00. So it's about a five.

It's about 50% cheaper than the saga was, and it was, it was interesting chatting because, you know, mobile experiences for crypto thus far have been really hit or miss and probably mostly miss. You know, when I spoke with Emmett Holier of Solana Mobile yesterday, he mentioned that he doesn't think anybody's cracked the code yet.

You know, and that's what they're kind of looking to do is that most experiences for crypto have been sort of, hey, let's take this website and make it mobile responsive, which is largely just kind of like shrink things down. They're trying to actually, you know, solve for it and make the crypto experience usable on mobile. So we'll see, see how how they do. And the it's interesting I've seen people interpret this as now Solana has a second ecosystem token.

Yeah, I actually, I asked him, I asked him pretty clearly why. Why launch this token when Solana exists, right? It's already a great token, you know, with great brand recognition, and they want something that's purely representative of the Solana mobile ecosystem. I don't have the article up in front of me, so I don't want to botch his quote or anything. But, you know, it's largely around those lines that they wanted something solely representative of the Solana mobile ecosystem.

It will live, of course on Solana, you know, as a Solana token, everything they do is built on Solana as well. But they want, they wanted something to represent just this mobile ecosystem as kind of like an, you know, an isolated asset from, you know, the rest of of everything else that's going on. I. Think it's that big backing, right. It's probably going to have the Solana Foundation behind it totally all those folks. So it's going to be interesting. We'll see if it if it's bearish

on slot. I don't. My gut is that it's not. I think you. Can. I don't think so if. You're that's separate enough and distinct that it's not really a second ecosystem token, but I didn't find that an interesting reaction. Look, we're almost out of time Logie, but the FIFA story, there's a lot of FIFA fans out there. You wrote the article, you just give us the the quick TLDR on. This one, sure.

So FIFA announced actually at the end of April that they would be migrating away from Algorand. They have a collect, FIFA Collect, which is like Top Shop, but soccer, football collectibles. They announced at the end of April that they were going to be migrating to its own chain. We didn't really know much more beyond that.

The announcement from this morning is that they are building their own L1 via Avalanche, Avalanche's Ava Cloud product, which just allows them to again control their own, you know, basically their own layer one block chain. So other than that that, you know, that platform is migrating over. That's kind of the first step, but they did indicate in the release that, you know, future business cases and use cases are being discussed. We don't exactly know what those are.

I got a quote there from chief business officer at Ava Labs who just mentioned that, you know, this is a a big win for potential adoption people. You know, this is a massive, massive organization, as you mentioned, tons and tons and tons of millions of fans globally and now moving, you know, to A, to a blockchain with a bit more brand awareness, a bit more presence. No knock to Algorand, but how

many people are using Algorand? You know, many more folks are are using Avalanche so and Avalanche like products. And that's, that's one of the keys here is that this, this move enables them to EVM compatibility, right? So you can use Metamask to collect FIFA, collect collectibles and stuff like that. It's just, you know, it, it's it seems kind of like a no brainer in terms of potential adoption. So.

Yeah, big story Avalanche building momentum, they've got good biz dev got to give them credit for that. I told Banac also launched that their Avalanche focused fun yesterday as well. So there's a lot of eyes on on the Avalanche eco for sure. So this will be an interesting one to continue to track. Folks, we're men over. I think that was a good rundown today. Bitcoin all time high still hanging out.

We'll see if we are higher for tomorrow, but As for today, that's it. I want to thank all of our listeners for tuning in today. I want to thank my coast. I want to thank our partner. We will be back tomorrow to round out the week with Fort Corn Friday. Yeah, and some double action. Till then, go make it a beautiful day. Goodbye.

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