¶ Podcast Introduction and Disclaimer
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From the minds of two porn stars and a non-star comedian comes in inside look at the industry, the good, the bad, the ugly to set out on a path of highlighting the world's most watched and denied subject.
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podcast and we'll cover sexually explicit material and will not be appropriate for people under the age of eighteen or really anyone emotionally under the age of twenty one, twenty five. Additionally, we're covering very sensitive subject material and there will contain some trigger warning topics around harassment and abuse specifically in the industry. We wanted to mention that up top, so please do not listen. unless you are of age and comfortable with some pretty sensitive discussion points.
¶ Ray Ray's "Please Hold" Journey
We have an absolute 10 out of 10 guest. IWantLexi.com is going to be in my thoughts and answers for the next. Several weeks, but there there's your tease and preview, but we are in the company. Ray Ray, JR, the most recent parody of the office, which I have enjoyed, especially from a clips preview perspective. It's nothing short of spectacular. Where are we on the releases? Give us an update on everything going on.
So um the fourth and final episode of Please Hold is releasing tomorrow on my website. It released on Friday on N Melanin, Hazel Graces.
Bye.
So if you want to go enjoy the fourth episode you can now on her website, but it will be released. Oh, sometime, I don't know. But yes, it is like the final like as soon as she like sent me the final draft of the last episode, I was like And then me being me who's always like, What's next? I'm like
Okay, so in next week we need to get on a call and we need to talk about promotion because if we don't get nominated for this freaking shit, like we need I don't know who I have to harass or what I need to do or I gotta slap our names on a billboard. I don't care. Like we remade the office in porn style and we did it just two of us with no help, no backing. Um, look, we had help, but like no like financial help. It was just the two.
Спасибо.
you know, and logistically putting it all together. And so I'm like, if we don't get a fucking at least acknowledgement of what for what we did, I'm like, we need to have a production meeting. We need to put our brains together. And I don't care who we need to harass because this is awesome. And I hope like Steve Crail like sees it and is like, oh, you know what? Yeah, they did a good job.
Bye!
Oh, we know the writers. Greg Daniels, who is the main writer, is d definitely gonna see this production. So feel free to reach out, Greg. We'd love to talk to you, get your thoughts.
And um so and we're like thinking about potentially hoping like getting in a conversation with maybe a bigger company to see if they want to take over promotion and like producing it. So like um there are all these things that we wanna do, but I just want to talk about the production. Like Please Hold was amazing. It was so awesome to collaborate with Hazel Grace on this project.
Yeah.
I knew she would bring the fire, I knew she would no do what she needed to do with the production. It definitely would not have flowed as well if she hadn't been there. She brought a lot of like she was the director, so I kinda let her, you know, direct things and make sure things flowed the way they were supposed to go and everything. But she did such a good job.
Um helping me. And there's this moment. I wish someone had recorded it. Like when we were done with the production and everything, we had finished everything, and we had like five minutes left on the set that we rented. We went into the office. And we like hugged each other and had like this brief like moment of like, we did it, and like cried and like it was just so tender and heartwarming and like that we as two small companies.
put our brains together and we're like, you know, all these people in the big they were like, they'll probably never be able to do that. And like we're like, we did it and we showed people that we could do it.
The end product is amazing. I'm very, very proud of it. And um you should go see all the episodes on either my website, rayrayxx.com or nmelanin.com. They or support both of us. We co-produced it, it was amazing and JR got to be on set for all of it as well as being Which like you did such a good job, but I'll let you talk about it because I could talk forever.
Yeah, no, I like it was it was so it was so so cool and like I I didn't really have lines other than just some ad living as my extra part, but like trying to follow along on the script. Um, and then watching the way that they shot it, because it was it was shot in order of like trying to preserve enough money because again, it was just these two amazingly talented ladies that
¶ Introducing Lexi Luna, Pornstar
Finance the whole thing themselves, so they were trying to stretch their dollar as much as you could. So like you'd have a scene of episode one and then episode four and then episode three and like all of them together, and I couldn't see where things were going or how this was working. And then as we got to like two day two, day three, and it was like everything just started to click. And I'm like, that's where this came from, this and that the
Like it was it was so freaking cool and it was just so impressive. Like I I was just, you know, I was just a helper. I was just there to support my friends and you know to do a job.
And I just watching and in absolute awe and amazement at what these two ladies could do. It was it was unreal. And then at the end, right before um we shot late those last couple of scenes, um Hazel's team and and me, we all kinda went together and we put together some uh we ordered some flowers and stuff for him, um, just to congratulate him because it was All of us were just so amazed by by these tips.
Yeah, it was it was unbelievable. Like I don't know how still this to this day how we did it because like we had to recast five people like a week. Oh word, like there were so many stressful things. There were props.
Yeah.
¶ From Teacher to Adult Star
There were and the thing is we needed everyone for the script to run the way it was supposed to run. We needed every character. Um, and then there were things that happened on set that we had to adjust to, like extra expenses, things we didn't budget for, like there were just a lot of things. that we had to on the fly, like without all the help, without JR, without our like amazing videographers like Samaj and my husband and
you know, Charlie being there as the PA and all these things and the entire cast, like it would not have happened. Um and so eventually you will see another um production from me and Hazel. point. Inkling of redoing friends. I'd really like to do that. I think that would be really fun.
I was gonna pitch Lost. I have a lot of shows on my list.
Um
We don't have the plane on an island, just out of curiosity that we could use for six months.
I'll work.
So but it's just amazing. Please go watch it, enjoy it. It's funny.
Ray, Ray.
I'm staring at please hold an XX parody episode one, two, and three. Ray Ray Triple X.com. Sorry to interrupt you.
Yep, it's amazing. Please go watch.
I'm really proud of you all because one thing it and it is interesting for me always to hear that that they were Behind the scenes, RayRay Triple X dot com in Melanin Productions. We always want to support our friend Hazel. Let's get to today's guests. We, of course, have I don't even know. Do I introduce Jr as a guest host anymore? Jr is just family host.
Yeah.
Yeah
Permanent.
He's yes, part of the furniture. I I love it. Well no, we're keeping them. That's sold. So let's go chat with uh today's amazing guest.
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We are so excited to have Lexi Luna on the gentleman's porn star, which also kind of made it seem like you secretly are also an assassin as I read that. nervous. I was told you're very nice. You started in this industry since twenty sixteen. You Uh very you do not need much of an introduction because the world knows whom you are. Lexi, you your reputation precedes you as both uh an awesome human being behind the scenes.
And obviously as the persona we all know and and get to see, you've been nominated for everything. You've done and this was crazy to me because I always think about the logistics, but over 400 professional scenes now and I'm Assuming since we wrote the statistics, probably like 450 now, 500 still some in production. So one of the hardest working people, Lexi, thank you so much for being on the show.
Thank you for having me. What a lovely introduction. I'm gonna hire you for some coffee work. Deal.
I want Lexi.com. The world is like, yeah, Kevin, we know where Lexi is, but I have to mention it. I want Lexi.com. And as I've been saying it now, I've said it like four times and you Is this also Pavlovian? Did you do this to just trick people into saying I want like
Lexi over and over again. I want Lexi. I want Lexi. Yes.
Super works. I'll let the audience know if she shows up if I say it enough.
That would be so cool. Like with the AI nowadays, just like show up.
Boop! Yeah.
We'll suggest that to me. Yeah.
I'm a little bit better.
Right. You're just AI clone shows up. Boop. Oh my god. I don't know, that could be good or bad. Like Skynet is a thing and I don't know. Anyway, I'll get into the description. Um so tell us about who you are, how you got into doing this journey.
Oh man, what a what a journey it's been. This is my Ninth year. So in June I will complete nine years. industry. And it's kind of a wild ride to think back to like my teaching days and lately I've just been kind of thinking and reflecting because every time around, you know, like it's c it's coming up the anniversary. And so I always reflect and think back to the beginning of when I was hating teaching. I taught elementary school for five years.
And how this career is really the thing I've been doing most of my life and now at almost ten years and
¶ Navigating Early Industry Challenges
And it's it's kind of wild to think that like I've been doing a career this long, first of all, because I never you know, like when you're a teacher, you always expect to just teach for thirty five years and sell your soul and, you know, not not be able to make ends meet and that is very much a reality in the teaching world. And I think that that is kind of why I started to branch out and look for something different. I was initially working towards
Maybe a job where I could teach teachers or do some kind of training in that sense. And it just really was hard to break into any of that because my degree was elementary education. And so there's really not much you can do outside of that. I did work with students with with special needs, that was an additional certification that I got. I did work with English language learners, that was an additional certification I got.
And none of it really like was it for me. I didn't really feel like I loved what I did. I didn't love going to school every day. I didn't love all the work. And I felt like a lot of my co teachers really had that passion and that drive. and that desire to teach the next generations and I just didn't and I felt like such a like
I shouldn't be doing this because this isn't the kind of teacher kids deserve. Somebody who doesn't want to go to school, somebody doesn't want to work for them, who doesn't want to like do the teacher thing. And and I think that that is totally fine. Like to know to go into a career and not and then realize. Five years in, like, hey, let's not waste our time here because I can't retire from this. And and you know, having
Thank you.
solo income, like it's just not really feasible to live any kind of like life with balance. The education world. So I decided to start looking for other things. And when my search dried up for doing other the avenues of teaching. I kind of like just like on Fet Life'cause I had just moved to Florida like a year or two before. So I was trying to find a community of people, kinky people who are open minded because that's how I've always been and I really enjoyed that aspect of my life.
And so I'm like, well, where's a place I can meet safe, sane and consensual people? Well, it's gonna be the local woodshed or the local dungeon or the local whatever it might be, wherever you are. I happen to be in Orlando, so for me it actually was the woodshed. Which is pretty pretty popular and famous around these parts I hear, uh uh as far as dungeons go. And I didn't know it at the time, but Casey Calvert also attended that.
That that dungeon did lots of stuff there to the point where I think she was already performing at that time and the dungeon master hit me up and he was like, Hey, there's this great lady and she'll help you if you're like interested in learning anything. So I hit her up a couple of times and and now like I just
just rapped on one of her big features for adult time for their big girl movie. And so it was just like a very full circle moment to be like this person who I reached out to at the very beginning, who before I was ever Lexi Luna was going to the same place and like experiencing these same things as me and so that was pretty cool but
Generally I just was like doing classes, learning how to do different things, like enjoying just learning kink and fetish in a safe way and with really great professionals. Like be these people really know their stuff and they know how to keep people safe and
you know, all of that is is was really like the the hallmark of it for me. And I started meeting some cool people and I started doing some cool things and figuring out what I liked and And then I was like, well, I I was on on chat or like just hanging out on Fet Life one day and I got a DM from a headhunter who was looking for people to do porn.
¶ Prioritizing Boundaries and Personal Life
And I didn't know at the time which company it was a part of, although I would find that out later. And I just kinda read the email and it's always, you know, the glitz and glam of what could happen and I at twenty six or twenty five at this time. I was 26. I don't know. I think I just turned 26. Yeah, because my birthday is in March. Okay. Uh I I realized that.
You know this.
this is obviously not how it's going to be all the time. Like they're giving me the best case scenario. So I was already a little skeptical, but I also was like, okay, well I've I've heard of this Asian C because I went to Exotica in Chicago Before I was ever in the industry I went as a civilian and I saw the
A fan?
Yes.
That's so cool.
You were circling then. You could already see it. There's like some local dungeons that are like you gotta check out Lexi Night.
Yeah, I grew up in Indiana, so Chicago wasn't that far out of the way, but but then when I moved to Florida, it was like okay, I'd already had this Chicago experience. And then living in Florida was kinda like, Okay, well this is a new experience, but also I've got these great people and
And I already kind of like felt comfortable'cause I'd seen I'd seen dungeon life out in the real world at this Exotica show. And I still to this day am very good friends with the people who run the dungeon at Exotica and they're fabulous people and
And it's exactly the kind of community that I was looking for. People who are accepting, people who maybe they want to play, but maybe they just want to be your friend too. And that's perfectly acceptable and there's no pressure. Um unlike what h the way I feel the swinger community is, I feel like the the kink fetish community Is much more like Hey, no pressure to play, but I'm available if you want to. Whereas swinging al always felt like, Hey, we're all hunting you're there's
The unicorn is a thing and I I know what that's like walking around the club and all the couples.
Do I
I'm like oh
Um
I'm just gonna go chill over here. I am a very sexual being so I'd be like, uh if you're really attractive just line up, man. But like Yeah, I understand what that's.
¶ Industry Isolation and Community Building
For us, that was similar, like when we j we were all about catching vibes more than anything else. Like we don't really pursue anybody, but like if cr if paths kind of cross or something like that, but our first time ever at Secrets, it was like You're you're new. Forty, fifty couples all like.
Yeah, you got it
Oh dude, Joy's hot.
Yeah. Very, very much the real real like pressure. That's the pressure that that people might feel when they're like, Oh, I wish I hadn't done that. Like that's why. Um so it was just it felt comfortable and I started You know, going to more events and seeing more stuff and and then eventually I this offer came and once I got the offer I kinda thought about it and I got it. I got the offer.
Actually, right around this time. It's April. Yeah. Uh school's over in May. And I was like, I'll just do this a little bit over the summer and see why. because ultimately I also know very well that like it doesn't happen overnight typically. and I didn't want to necessarily have to do the things that it would take for it to happen overnight for me. And so just kind of like being twenty six and knowing what I like and knowing what I wanna do and what I don't want to do.
Um, feeling like I'm never stuck anywhere because I have a credit card that can get me out of any situation. You know, like it's different when you experience and when you have things to fall back on and you have, you know, a a sense of the world and if I were to be in trouble somewhere, like what could I do? I I go through these scenarios in my head, as I'm sure a lot of women do, of like, how would I get out of this scenario?
And so I felt very confident taking my first trip down to Fort Lauderdale. I lived in Orlando to Fort Lauderdale is about like three-hour drive. It's like LA to Vegas-ish. And I was like, I'm just gonna drive my car and if I don't like this and if nothing goes well and it's like a horrible situation, like I I can drive myself home. Like no harm, no foul. I know how to get home. And I got there and it was kinda wild because it's like
¶ Authenticity Beyond Persona
four girls and two bunk beds and I was like, Oh I'm twenty six I don't sleep on a bunk bed. And you know, like every time somebody turns over, the bunk bed goes. Yeah. And you know, that's really cool when you're eighteen or nineteen, but that's not really like my jam. And so
They do not make those. Yeah, three ton, same same mattress designer, same young person's game.
She's not a good thing.
Yeah.
for that.
Well literally I can't walk for days, but I'm definitely uh one of the more senior
Yeah, no tapes. Yeah.
Mm mm. Yeah, so I toughed it out and it was hard getting shoots because I was in twenty sixteen we didn't have this babe category that we have now and so I wasn't because I had fake boobs, but I also wasn't a MILF because I had this really young looking face still because I was still only twenty six and like I really didn't grow into being this look.
until probably like three or four years into my career. But, you know, of course, because we were we uh develop and change and grow and, you know, that happens at all ages of stages of life. We change our facial structure and stuff like that. And so I was kind of in this weird like, uh, you're really hot, but we can't shoot at you. And I'm like, but why? Why can't you shoot? And
Bye, family.
Yeah, and there just was no like category for me and if without without a category to put you in, they can't like monetize you. They can't see how much you money you could make them because they don't know which tags to add. And so I got to the point where I was like, all right, I'm getting a little bit of consistent work. It's not super great, but it's like enough to keep going and keep trying the And that was probably like the first two to three years and then in twenty nineteen
¶ Battling Burnout, Production Demands
About uh the middle of the year I had a really ridiculously busy July and I called my friend and I jokingly called it Julexi because it was like I think I worked like eight days. Like it was something crazy, some crazy number of days on set. And you know, at tw at that age, I could totally easily be like, Yeah, let's go to the next one, next one, next one. And now I think back and I'm like, How did your hip flexor give out in the whole
Oh thank you. I'm old. I'm gonna be thirty-two, man. No, no.
Forty. I started I started thinking about a nap when you said that.
Three days in a row.
Too many days awake. Yeah.
Yeah, I like and those scenes are in depth. Like some of the scenes are like, you know, five to ten hour days, man. Yeah.
And at that time I was still trying to build my career and build my name and not be a problem on set and all these things that you hear about because I didn't want to be blacklisted, whatever that meant, and I didn't want to piss off the wrong person by having a sour attitude. And not that I have a sour attitude in general, but I got to the point where I was like, okay, I
I feel as though I have been very, very like nice and welcoming and coming to the male talent and uh helpful and try like very much putting it out there. And so I was like, okay, these twenty eight days, like something's gonna happen. And so in then at the in twenty twenty when the pandemic happened, I think all of the companies that were holding on to those because they didn't have anything else to release. And so in twenty twenty I probably had a new release like
Okay. Yeah. And and that really that consistency of releases, I think, is really what drove me to shot me to to stardom at that time when everybody was kind of like just bunkered down. watching porn and interacting with all the girls on OnlyFans, as we know that that blew up at the time. And it just was it was just kind of the the random like trajectory of like starting a little bit and then you're cannonballed into this.
constant like, wow, do I need some like I don't even know how to how to manage all of this. And it's not like I can ha ask for help. Like nobody's really doing it. Like we're we all kind of figured it out on the fly. Because at that time I hadn't had my own sight, I really hadn't. And then I saw the the value of my own content as did everybody. lot more. So I actually moved my bed into my living room in my apartment in LA because
I was like, I need two walls. I can't do this like wall and window thing. Like the windows are on the wrong side. And like if I shoot facing the window, then you got like the kitchen and the mess behind me. And so I'm like, okay, kitchen kit kitchen mess has got to be with the bedroom. And so I had two other rooms. One was my closet and one was like a corner that I shot in. And I that I wore that white vinyl cap out. Wear it out. And I it actually has gone to um VR hush.
¶ Good: Independence, Confidence, Self-Discovery
They now have that couch.
So fun.
It lives on an infamy.
Nice.
That's okay. The trajectory was a little like rocky at the beginning. Like I d I definitely didn't know what I was doing off the bat. And it took me a while. I am glad that I always stuck to the limits that I set for myself because it would it would have been very easy for me several times to have
Done stuff that I didn't want to do or you know, scenes I didn't want to necessarily I wasn't like ready to do yet. Or the if I wanted to to perform that at all, because there are a lot of things that I keep sacred for my personal life, because if you give everything up to this industry, it will take it. It'll take everything. Yeah. And so it's really hard to be like, no, I'm gonna have my ass slapped.
in the privacy of my own bedroom if that's what I would so that was one of the things that's I think is very hard for a lot of my performer co performers is like'cause it's so juicy and they just want to like slap it. And I'm like Yeah.
Was it hard for you like'cause I'm in that period where like I I'm thir I'm gonna be thirty two, but I've always looked very young and so I'm in that limbo period of like, where can they put you? And I also like Did a lot of my own stuff and you know um so was there a period during that where you were like, is this what I should do? Should I keep going? Like what motivated you during that?
Yeah, I felt like at that point, by the time I was in the midway point of July hell month, I was like, I mean, I've already put all this content out there. There is no going back to teaching. Like that and
Answers my question, I was like, I wonder where in the twenty eight days it was like, Well, I'm not gonna do anything else now.
Yeah. Like I just there was just was no chance because as we know the internet is forever and I I was very aware and very like I'm choosing to do this and I'm choosing to shut the door on my degree. ultimately, which like to say that because I spent all those freaking hours studying and testing and dealing with all of the it takes. But really if I had just had like a gap year or two or if I had had been exposed to some other
uh other careers or alternative careers, maybe I would have chosen something different. And not saying that I probably still wouldn't have chosen a life in in front of
¶ Good: Mental Health and Hobbies
that may have very well been my path, but I probably would have been more knowledgeable about it. And I would have known a little bit more about like creating my own content and and the importance of content in general. I feel like that was Like one of those things that we've got.
just didn't realize until it was already way past the point where I should have been making stuff. And so just not having the experience of seeing other careers. I mean I lived I grew up in Indiana. You're gonna be a doctor, a lawyer, a farmer, a teacher. Like those are pretty much Right. So there really wasn't a whole lot for me to see. And then you know, I spent all this time
with this degree. But then and and it got to the p I was like, it's bad enough that I don't want to do it anymore. Like it's already this point at five years in. Do I go another thirty?
¶ Bad: 24/7 Job, Customer Service
Do you know, do I waste all this time? But then I kind of realized that like that is the the type of mindset of people who don't ever change their And big risk, big reward. I mean, that's ultimately the way it goes. And uh every day feels like a vacation in this job, but every day feels like a vacation. And so you can very easily stop working. You can very easily realize too late into three months from now, like, oh, I haven't been on sex pay.
Because I've been so busy all this other stuff or enjoying my life or all that kind of stuff. So the balance that is something I did. was that I I as a teacher, your day is pretty much scheduled for you. I don't really have a choice when we have lunch. The school decides all of those things. And so that that made it a little bit easier being a teacher because I didn't have to think about the schedule as much. I just had to think about all the
But when it came to doing my own stuff, I need a schedule. And so I was kind of like flailing like I can't start anything because I don't know where to start. Yeah.
Right.
I hate that.
So I'm like that too. I feel like the more the longer I'm in this industry, I feel like the more things I'm like, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this. And then there are days I wake up at four AM and I'm like I have so much to do and I just want to sit in my bed.
Bye. I know. It's harder when we we don't really see each other at work all that often. You know, performers you see each other on set for that day, but then it's maybe a week before you have another shoot or schedule yourself another shoot. And so you're not really interacting with your co-stars on a personal.
Aside from maybe going to shows or maybe doing, you know, c but it's always surrounded by something else. It's never really truly time to get to know people. And so the computer is something that I've really been working on this year because I realize that I'm almost
¶ Bad: Industry Discrimination, Political Fight
And I don't know if I can really like round up. And I think that's a really a big reality because you spent all these years building your career and being busy and going to shows and promoting yourself and doing all these things that sometimes you kind of lose track of the things that are are important as well, which is keeping your brain out. You know, interacting, having having interactions that are more than just in front of your phone.
And I do talk to a lot of people every day on OnlyFans and LoyalFans and Sex Panther. And I do interact with a lot of people face to like screen to face, but it's not the same as people you want to interact with. You know, not all interaction is crazy.
Finding your child is a huge part of this.
I think that's true. Like
Oh go ahead.
Oh, I just I I don't know, I feel like I did this career kind of backwards than how most people do it because I do self-producing that um I have so many close friends in this industry just from like producing
¶ Ugly: Lack of Support, Manipulation
And but
pulling people together, like I can on like multiple hands and be like, oh, this person, like Hazel Grace. Taylor Gunner and like Rebel Rider and just all of them, I'm like, if I called them, like they would come and they would help me.
I don't think that it that if I c may uh reached out to anybody that they wouldn't help me in that sense. But it's different it's different like needing something like that versus like feeling like you have friends.
And like these relationships and because that's also I haven't put that work in. So I can't expect for people to be like, Oh yeah, Lexi's my friend. You know, I don't take that lightly and I know I haven't been putting the work in. And so that's why it's like, okay, we're gonna focus on like the other side of being being the human side, not just the porn side of the thing.
And so that that has been kind of like my go my big goal is to like do more girls' nights, be more active, like talk to people outside of work, try to attend events that my friends are doing and you know, just support everybody in in their quest to also be a regular. Yeah.
Yes, it's very important and like JR is my best friend. Like we talk every day, every day about everything. I like even if I'm having a bad day, good day, I can cry on the phone. Like we're like best friends. So I get it. Having those people, especially with like what we do is so isolating. Yes. It's like so
Yeah, it can definitely be isolating. Even when you feel like you're constantly talking to people, it can feel isolating reality.
¶ Ugly: Exploitation, Unpaid Work
There's, you know, like we all live in different places. It's really not feasible for me to keep the friends in Florida and to try to nurture those relationships as much because I'm just not there physically. Like you can only do so much, I think, over the phone or via text or like staying in touch is one thing, but but building relationships.
'cause it has to be a little bit.
And it's can be dangerous to like almost lose yourself if you don't ever get to be more than just Lexi Luna on camera. Like you can keep the like I for the most part, all of my friends in the industry, like they still call me by my performer name. But they're talking to the actual me. It's not like just a like a work interaction. So I'm able to yeah. So it's like it's so important, I think, for us to to make sure that we uh step outside of just our persona on camera so that we can have that.
I and I I really I want that for you as well. Like it's it's we need it's a great feeling.
Hey you're speaking to me. I'm about to move uh across states to try.
Right.
Right.
Half hour. Well, the best year of my life, I was twenty-four. I lived with all my friends. But oh my god, it was amazing. Everybody was just there. People would show up before like you had to text and tell them you were coming over, they could just come over. Yeah, what an error. We'll tell the kids about it one day.
¶ Ugly: Small Company Discrimination
just not they wouldn't they're hey I'm here and they'd bring a train or a six pack and it was like oh my god it's Christmas
Yeah. Now you gotta like Snapchat right before you're at their door or
Now it's like we're here, we're in the we're down the block. automatically
JR still does that. He'll text me the whole way he's
We're two hours.
And I'm like, Yeah.
It's
I mean in my defense, that's part of the army stuff. Like twenty years in the army, like I a hundred percent I'm making sure everybody
We gotta check in your position.
Dang right.
God damn right.
Or be masturbating two hours from now and just let us know and we'll be ready to jump in late
Yeah. Okay. That's awesome.
I need help, you know, sometimes.
What are friends for?
That's like the best kind of friend.
Who I can cry too but
Thank you.
Popsicum
All right. Let's all go to Cancun and drop ass. I'm just let's never mind.
Yeah. Wrap the
Let's go.
Like I'm ready to go on vacation, but I just have one more question for you. Um so We're doing a hundred things like I f like I said, I feel like I just keep adding So how do you not burn out
I burn out probably twice a year. I would I would
Just do, yeah.
Like I know I'm going to, but the thing is There is there are o there's always another person. to there's always another video chat to do. There's always going to be the next one. And so this is something that I actually haven't mastered. Um I just take myself to that limit and once I'm there, then I kind of disappear for a little bit and
Like recharge my batteries in whatever way that means. Because if if I in the morning am already dreading doing my makeup and getting ready to do video chats, that's not a video. Because I'm already like in a bad mood about it. But then it's like, okay, and then I need to be able to shift and be like, okay, well, what am I going to do today? Because I still need to feel productive.
¶ Ugly: Unprofessionalism, Veteran Trauma
If I don't do anything, then I feel even worse than I did in the morning when I woke up and dreaded those video chats. And I just I just try, and sometimes I will even just.
Tell guys like
I don't I don't wanna do this roleplay. Like, no. Will you be my no, I don't wanna be anything. Like, if you wanna call me right now, it's to watch me masturbate and the hang up and that's it. Like I don't wanna talk to you. But that's very real. I felt like that about every one of my students at some point in in those five years. Like just don't. Yeah.
Really, it is hard to uh to anticipate because burnout from conventions is very different than burnout from shooting s shooting scenes, than it is personal burnout from just being pulled in a bunch of different Yeah. And so that's why I say I burn out probably about twice a year in different categories. And so this year one thing I did was I I'm I just attended my last exotica in Chicago, which felt very full.
started and ended my journey there. And so I just need to not go on go like on the road every four And so that's one like if I I can do January. Like January is great. It's all together in one two weeks period. But just write January off and then everybody's on the same page because we're all going through it together.
Right.
It was like, ooh, I'll get the seer we'll get the sea in Miami, right? And it's now it's like
¶ Ugly: Better Industry Standards
I know!
I still be actually I will be at Miami Ex Biz because I'm doing other stuff there for production. So I will be there during that that week next month.
Um well I just wanted to say that I think you're really awesome. I've known who you are for several years and I'm looking forward to finally shooting together some.
I know!
Putting together some really cool, awesome scenes. That's the only way I know how to do scenes. We'll do some cool scripted thing if you want or themed or whatever you want to do.
Whatever you want, man. You always put in so much effort and love into this stuff. And I'm like, I really love performing. I tried the director thing, not for me. And I think that that doesn't get talked about enough that like not every good performer and not every intelligent person. Like it doesn't have to be you can continue literally performing. Yeah. Probably not forever. However long it forever is for you. And I
As long as people are paying for it, I'm down. Let's do it.
Yeah. I tried it and I was like, oh no, no, no. This is way It's a lot of possibility. I was like, oh show up and then our whole day is ruined? No.
The wrinkles that I have from this is not from performing. It is literally from directing and like with the production that me and Hazel Grace did, the off like the please hold like sick like remake that we did was awesome. And I am so glad it's over.
¶ Lexi's Media Fascination Explained
She literally sent me out. We like finished the fourth episode and it's um gonna be out. But like yeah.
I'm gonna pull my hair.
Hair out, man, hurting cats, hurting pe I'm like
And I was like that's very reminiscent of having a classroom with this whole direction. I'm like, oh yeah, we can't let one tantrum bring down the whole ship.
Oh I we've had to deal with I've had I've had performers like freak out, walk offset Their agent, calm them out to come back. I'm like, I've invested like a lot of money into this production. What can I do to talk you to come back? Um I've had performers show up and think they're too good for my set immediately. And then I'm like, that's how we're starting. Okay, man.
Yeah.
I've had it all and so but I'm looking forward to the day where I don't have to be talent director and producer all in one. Um it's very nice, I think, to be one role. So I'm looking forward to eventually Getting away from the camera, finding someone who can be me in my production, finding a contract star, whoever that is, um, and then
But that's what you really love is the production and the like off camera aspect of getting it all together in your story.
So I love performing. I love it. Like I love being in front of the camera. I love acting. Like I got to play the ditzy dumb secretary character in the office. Please hold. It was amazing. Like At one point like this they're like having sex in like the conference room and I'm like clapping my tits together to give them like encouragement. I love it.
But I want I want to be in just one role. Like it's very nice to be like talent where you just do what you're supposed to do versus When you're talent and director and producer, you're making sure everything is going on, everything is great, as well as your co-star is still consenting.
¶ Strategic Branding Beyond Porn
Which is extremely hard to do while trying to be in like the scene. Um so I'm looking forward to being one or the other at some point. Um But no, I'm not gonna stop produ like being performing anytime soon. But yeah, with that being said... Sorry. Yeah. So um I'll let JR get to his section because I'll talk forever. But um I think you're really awesome and I can't wait to make some
Uh well we have uh we have a simple one. I like doing this one better mostly because my memory sucks. And so not having to remember questions is great. So the good, the bad, and the ugly is our second. So if we could start with, you know, um just some of the good experiences and stuff, what's good about the industry.
Ah, there's so much.
And I think that's the part that really gets buried is that The good things are great and
¶ Humorous Scenes, AI in Production
And then some of the bad things are louder. And that I think is a is a thing that people have a hard time distinguishing like what is the level of this bad thing versus how many good things people are experiencing that you don't really hear about. Everybody just assumes, oh, all these bad things are happening. And so for me, the good is independence and financial freedom. I mean, I think that's everybody can agree with that.
Um, the I really grew into myself in this industry because I always had a level of confidence, but like the confidence you gain from going from character to character to character and like, you know, saying things in different ways and and pl pretending to be somebody else and all this stuff is like, wow, I could do this big range of things.
¶ More Scene Ideas: Teacher Role
And I feel so much like pride in being able to throw the faces and be the step mom and you know, even uh just more recently, just kind of like not being the main character and just kind of getting to like brew things in the story and just Like getting to really, really be myself. That is definitely a positive. Um, I probably would not have been as confident if I stayed.
Because I think it has a way of of tearing you down be bit by bit if you are not careful. Because if you give so much and it gives nothing back, uh or it takes even more of your time or more of your resources.
¶ Injuries and Physical Demands
Because I was also working in schools where we didn't have supply money. I would buy the supplies. And you know, like that kind of stuff really wears on you. Whereas this industry will also very much take from you if you let it. But if you play this right, you can set yourself up for a lifetime of ease, a lifetime of happiness, a lifetime of not having to worry about your finances or your your relationships or
You know, not not having to worry about what other people think of you because it doesn't fucking matter and what are they gonna do about it? Like, okay, you don't like me next. You know, like you really develop this tough tougher skin and it it doesn't let you be as much of a snowflake. Yeah.
You don't like me next is a dating show I would watch for a hundred hours just
I would burn my way through. I'd be like, Oh, okay.
Bye.
You don't like me next is also that's what Taylor Swift was going for the last
I was gonna say I think there is a sh there was a dating show called Net.
Oh yeah. Next is great, but Yeah.
Yeah, I actually just finished one uh I just burned through like two seasons of Rock of Love the last couple of days. I just like guilty pleasures, man.
The Next Bus. And it was one of the greatest shows on the planet. Yeah.
Um, other good things, my mental health is the best it's ever been. I actually have time for myself and devote to myself and all the things that I love doing, which I jokingly with my fans and like I have grandma hobbies which I do, puzzles and and sewing. and you know like different things like that. And but then I also kind of I'm like, yeah, but like then we wrote this article about how I make miniature houses and that is also work. So that counts as a double, right? Like I guess
Yeah.
I get to double dip in the work and in the personal and just like kind of make it all work. And I think that having layers is important to a person and this job really allows me to explore all the layers.
¶ Makeup, Physical Breakdown Impacts
myself, not just my sexuality, not just, you know, my proclivity for acting or my desire to, you know, try to do something different with my body or whatever it might be. But yeah, I that those are definitely some of the good like those those are like the deep rooted good things. Like the things that like when those things are good, a lot of other things are a lot.
And so that is another thing, is just like feeling that's that that level of like baseline. My baseline is always happy. Whereas I couldn't have said that. My baseline was probably frustrated versus happy. And so there were a lot of like there are a lot of of really nice.
Now bad right, we have to also talk about the bad.
Oh, really?
Um, th it is a twenty four seven job. It never stops. If you want to be online twenty four hours a day, you can and you will have somebody to talk to twenty four seven. It doesn't end, and you can't slow it down necessarily. You can just kind of disappear into the background. But those people are always searching for that content, they're always looking for that. So that is that can sometimes be a little challenging because like
I
have a hard time saying no to the next guy who's like, hey, I I really want to do this custom and I'm like, yeah, I'd love to talk to you about it for 15 minutes, but I just talked to somebody else about it for fifteen minutes and I really just don't have the bandwidth. But I it's customer service, right? So there has to be an aspect of Okay, I see your needs and I want to meet them, but I cannot blow up on you in a way that makes you not want to spend
and makes you feel uncomfortable and unvalued because that's not what I want my fans and my customers to feel. I really, really fucking value them. And I always say this that without them looking me up, Lexi Luna doesn't exist. Like they're the ones who created. I didn't create this out of my out of thin air by myself. Like my fans are the ones who watch, the ones who click, the ones who make my numbers go up to the point where companies wanna hire me because I do drive traffic.
feel safe and they feel confident that I'm not gonna do something that is out of left field that they're not expecting. You know, like my brand is very consistent. And so they have have grown to like that's all you can ask for in a brand is to feel like people trust you and I would never send my fans to a place that I don't trust. And so I think that that that level of like we both kind of meet each other at that level.
turns that bad into the into a good for me. But it's very easy to get caught up in overworking yourself. And I think that it's in a way that you don't really even notice because like the amount of time you spend on the computer versus the amount of time you spend on set like physically using
the job is very different and that mental burnout can happen so much faster and then you see it in a physical sense like maybe that mental burnout caused you to have this blow up reaction on set that's not very much like you and now you've burned.
A hundred percent. Is that manifests into something physical or like you could end up being feeling really sick for a couple of days and it just takes you down because you're mine so
I feel it, man. I get burnt out sometimes and I'm like, I don't want anything. I wanna cuddle my calves and my dog and my husband and I want everyone to leave me alone.
I don't want anything. Yeah. No, and they're so sweet. They're like, oh, how can I make you feel better? And I'm like, you can't. And then Leave me alone.
My children.
Mommy's busy. So yeah, and you know like other other bad aspects of this industry, people look at you in all kinds of ways. Banking discrimination happens all the time.
talking about the banking yeah we were just sorry great call out yep i'm passionate
Yes, no. Banking is tough. And ultimately, it's one of those things where it's like, I've never really had any issues with banking. Personally, I have seen friends of mine get decimated. And um why? Like what'cause we're doing the same job. We're getting direct deposits from the same companies, you know.
Money. Yeah.
Yeah, legitimate money. Like so it's it's one of those things that's just it's hard. It's hard to to fight politically for for our rights. It's hard to Just to get everybody on board because there's such a range of people, right? From nineteen to ninety-nine. We've got people in this industry and it's and it can be hard for them to understand the necessity of all of us to be a
Because we are all each other has. I mean nobody's gonna stick their Not not not anybody who's not one of us or feels connected to us in in a way like, for example, FSC does a great job for us. Yeah. And other companies like that. So it it's one of those like you really have to depend on these people. But by the time you kind of learn that lesson, you've either not you're not in this industry anymore because your three months are up.
you have gotten into such a bad place that like there's no digging your way back out of it. Or you're just like you just disappear and nobody like you just stop doing what you're doing and no nobody even knows you exist anymore. And you know, like none of those are really great So that is definitely a bad bad aspect of it. Like the amount of fighting it takes to just exist in this space is not forever.
Yeah. Absolutely. Well you
Can we just
Oh.
Yeah, please. You know, and I I do often think like what will be the next one. step, not that I'm like changing my path or quitting performing, but just like directing wasn't it. I tried that. And so it's like okay, maybe there will be some kind of like community service aspect where I help models or I help our community or I don't know what what that is necessarily. But you know, I'm I just I wanna do something more than what I'm doing, but I
get there what to do or how much time and you know, like all of that is very relative. The amount of time I have I could create time for anything. But you know, we always use these excuses of don't know it all of these are excuses at the end of the day. I could very easily figure out a way, but it also has to be something that speaks to me. Like it has to be something I'm actually passionate about or I'm just gonna keep rescheduling or not showing up.
So I need to get the funding in the committee. We'll call you. We'll get.
Very bad.
So that was not a no. It was a yeah, just get it organized, Kevin.
We'll we'll call it the we'll call it uh we'll call it the triple X superpower.
Unbelievable name.
Yeah, I mean told you everything you need to know. Write the name. Yep.
That though, like we've talked about like unionization and like having that support and having mentorship programs and financial aid and tax aid and all this stuff that we need. Um and so like people like yourself that could potentially help with that would be amazing.
Yeah.
A super sexy lobbyist or you know.
Yeah. Me and Paris Hilton out there on the hill.
Now more than ever. Like that would be
to have a discussion with you.
I don't know what to say.
Yeah.
I try, you know. Um, for us, like one of our things is we like try to help mentor the next generation. Like I wanna eventually do that as like an actual company or Something, but in the meantime
To organize the people to be like come this way, come this way, kitties, come this way.
Scoop them up whenever, like, you know how you can'cause you can see when they get those like doughy not doughy eyed, but like the j deer in the headlights, like
They like too much.
I do. And I was like, I don't know, cut. Yeah. We'll give you some stuff. Well w let me let me help you. Let me try to at least put you in contact with some people'cause you know. As a as a male in the industry, not necessarily like young female stars want to you know confide in in someone like me. And I I mean I get it. I have I do actually have quite a few that
That still do, and they reach out and FaceTime me all the time. And it's like, Yeah, uh yeah, I can send them to to Ray Ray or you know, anybody.
It would be really hard to stand on your own two feet and be like I'm not to a director. Like that was terrifying the first time I stood up to somebody on set. Even though I'm twenty six and have I'm in a different phase of life and all of these things that like should make me, you know, be able to just be like, ah, this is what I do and this is what I don't do.
That's not the reality of it because at the end of the day you need that paycheck. And is you standing up to this director worth it, or do you really need that paycheck? And so that does happen. And I think that's part of the ugly, right? Because it is hard to say like
Right there.
Yeah, you have it first.
I love this.
And it it's hard to to say I'm not comfortable with this when you're you've already rolled half the fi half the video. And I think that's something that A lot of companies are trying to help with with having, you know, consent talks beforehand and being very consent based and very consent focused. But it's also very much also not happening on a lot of sets. And unless there was a time where unless I
sat my male talent down before we rolled and showed him my test and asked to see his and told him what my do's and don'ts are and asked for his, that wouldn't happen. And then you'd be in the middle of like this crazy scene that you were like, I did not expect it to go this way, but you didn't really set expectations. So how can you really even say that I didn't expect it to go this way?
And so that is also something that I think a lot of performers who are coming in and working specifically in the mainstream realm of these few companies that are doing this process. You know, those are they're they're getting it there, but they're not necessarily if your first time working with somebody isn't with a big
Which most of the time it isn't. Uh you know, you don't really know what to expect and what sh what is appropriate, what isn't appropriate. And that's where people that's that sweet spot where people tend to take advantage of people where it's like ooh it's just
And she doesn't have a good community. She's not been on enough sets. This is the perfect time for me to take liberties. You know, and that's just the way that it goes. And that is disgusting and it vile on so many levels and the fact that we even but but because we don't have a system in place to support new performers and to tell them what is what should and shouldn't happen.
And you know, also ultimately you might love sex and might wanna put all the dicks in your ass, but are you getting paid for that today? If you're just doing it for fun
That's a whole different thing, but you should not be doing it for fun on set just because you want to or because you're pressured into it. Like those are there are rate of different things. And there's a lot of that too, wherecause she's like, I just love to have sex and it's like, that is great in your personal life, but this is work and we don't
You do the thing that you're hired to do here. And so of course everybody's gonna take extra gre free content or, you know, a scene type that they've been planning on doing and nobody's gonna tell you that you could have been paid twice at this and you know those are just the way people people manipulate other people and and take advantage of of their innocence and their
Both her Ray Ray and I reacted the same way. As soon as you mentioned that, we're like, it it yeah, it breaks breaks makes problems.
something. Because like I'm a small company and I am a woman who runs my company. So I think it's a little easier for me to hire talent. Um, but it does make smaller companies look bad.
And then less people are likely just because I'm a small company allow people to hire let me hire them. And I'm like, I do full consent talks. I literally tell Like this is her like Wick uh you know, consent word if she says her safe word is this and her safe symbol is this and like at any point and I'm literally watching their body language the entire time to make sure everything is good.
And so like I try really, really hard to make everyone as comfortable. I have snacks, I have water, I've gotten douches, I've picked up and dropped off a person before. Of these things and so it is really difficult when those smaller companies do bad stuff like that and because then we all get grouped together and there are agencies that will not let me hire from them. They will not respond. And I'm like
You're like I'm paying a full re it is a regular scene just like anything else. It's not like you're shooting, you know, clips and you want to day like it's a very typical thing. Like and that's the situation uh the the discrimination. industry is very real. And it's not even just the typical way that you would think. It it's discrimination against big time versus small time producers. And
you're fantastic. I had a very bad experience with another female run company. And just because having that female run title, like that doesn't necessarily That this is another thing, you know, teaching people like it doesn't necessarily mean you're safe. You still have to be off guard, your spidey senses still have to be on, even though it's a woman run company, until you see some things day of where you're like, okay, this is
actually legitimate the way that it it this feels the way it should. I don't feel taking advantage like this is I can really And I think that that is another thing. Like we have a lot of people who have a lot of social anxiety and that might come off as rude, but to them they're just like protecting themselves and trying to figure out where they fit in this room while they're getting their makeup done and like look. Sizing everybody up like we always do. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I have really high expectations. Like if I send you a ten page script, you better know the script, man. You better have looked at it, opened it, know your lines, man. I've had people show up, they don't know any of their lines and I'm like Um, okay, we'll feed you lines, but I'm like, God, I have this, or they an hour late. I'm like, I've rented this set hourly. Like, so there are several things that like as a director producer, you have to let go and internalize.
Okay, I have these expectations of me. I can't put those on everyone, but I want a good product at the end of the day.
Yeah. Queens.
be a professional and show up and do a good job. That's all I ask.
Yeah,'cause that can set up that can that can kind of ruin a rude the the mood for like an entire room. I know that'cause I'll I know I help uh run um sound or I'll run one of the cameras for for Ray Ray on some of her sets and I love that and I but I know that our pet peeves, if something happens and then if we start locking eyes, then that messes with her mood, which messes with my mood, which can then make the other people feel a little more uncomfortable. And it's like
for male talent versus female talent too. Because as a female talent, especially a younger female talent, I feel like there's a lot of these days there is a lot more support. When I first started, there was a lot of like the expectation is that you have sex. And it was left vague kind of intentionally. And the younger male performers I feel as as they get in, uh they're not being put through the ringer as much.
uh as they used to be. There are a lot more things that, you know, I would I I hear veteran performers are like, Oh, this I would never be able to get away with this, you know, ten years ago, fifteen years ago. And it's like getting away with is really not the way we should be framing this because you also had a bad
You also maybe suffered under somebody's saying somebody saying, Oh, what what's the matter? You can't come, you know, like that is trauma from them as well. It's not like they are they got got couldn't get away with it or new guys are getting away with it. It's that we've become a better interest.
And people are people are starting to to like treat people the way that they they should be should have been treating them all along on set. And so that I think is very frustrating when you had to go through all of those trials and tribulations. of becoming this male talent and per p potentially traumatizing yourself.
You know, then and then you turn around and you're seeing somebody like fail scenes and have and get called back and that would have never happened to you. And so it it can be very like almost even isolating'cause it's like, well, you you don't understand how it what it was like. And you know, the all the reality of that is no, nobody does. Nobody understands what it was like to to deal with whatever issues they had to deal with at
Yeah. And then it's like, would you would you really did you like that? Were you were you okay with that being in that scenario?
Yeah.
Other people doing Yeah. Exactly. It's like so that's what you want everybody to because you were treated poorly. You feel like everybody's got to go through that. It's like, no, make make things better.
Yeah.
Make things better. Don't be shitty. Make things better and let's try to get rid of a lot of this ugliness in
And I I'm seeing it I'm seeing the tides change and you know I I love seeing that and I every time I'm on set with the guy, I always try to like We're here, we're in this together, me and you, we're gonna have such a great day. Like it's uh just like building people I totally do. And I and I'm like, what you know, what position do you like to come in? Like I kinda set the stage.
Sure.
I'm here to help you and to make this a successful scene because if we don't have success then then it's more than just the two of us who are suffering too, you know? And uh and it doesn't feel good to fail a scene. It doesn't feel good to have the
the middle or to feel like, oh, I really can't do this. Like that too. But hopefully when when you set the stage with somebody who probably you've never worked with before, this is the way I always did it when I was first coming up. I was like, you know, like I w I want to make a good And I'm going to do it.
for you to have success as well. And then that's another thing we don't really talk enough about. But I didn't start doing that until I was in my late twenties. And, you know, I'd I'd learned about how to motivate people and how to, you know, get good results out of people. And the best way is not the shaming people way like directors have done in the past, that doesn't do anything but traumatize somebody. So
It makes the dick go.
Yeah, and then it makes the brain go shrivel shrible. Yeah. So
I think it's a good idea.
Mm.
It makes the dick go like the last thing you want to do is like do anything like that. Like'cause like for guys their erection is all right here. And if you fuck with right here, it's done, man. It's done.
But you can also fuck with his head in a good way and make an amazing scene, right? Like and having that distinct distinguishing factor of like I'm either gonna make this a great day or And you know, like we don't need to choose violence in that in that scenario. That's
really men's great charisma. We're dumb both ways.
We're at
Yeah.
I'm making mental notes. I'm like, Ray Ray, can we keep her?
Yeah. You have been in the Business Insider Netherlands. You've been on the LAist as a panel. You've been in the New York Post. You've been just on the general business insider business insider several times. Why is the news obsessed with you? I left this out of your intro because this doesn't normally come up, but you have been heavily quoted, heavily analyzed, heavily studied. What?
I think people are fascinated with An adult woman with a career But especially because my career was so like nurturing and focused on on like helping students bring be brought up. Like I would some of the kids called me mom because I spent more hours in the day with them than their own parents. You know, when you're teaching first grade seven, people are gonna call you mom. Like it just happens. I think that people are just fascinated with the change because
You know, the the rosy picture of teaching is that, oh, all the teachers love it so much and they're giving of themselves to help these students. But the reality of teaching is not something a lot of people knew until the pandemic, until they were sat down in their kitchens with their kids and their Zooms.
and tried to teach them for a day. Yeah. One day I think a lot of parents learned about their kids and about what how how much teachers do in that pandemic. But if I had waited until the pandemic to to do anything different, then I would have been Even more that would have been ten years into a career I hated.
already four years in, right, at that point in a career you love.
Exactly. And so I'm just like, no, this uh I think I'm so heavily quoted because I have had great PR. who position me in a p in a way that like, hey, here's this topic. I have very specific things I talk about and so when there's when it's my thing, I hit. And I have a lot of fans who are very interested in hearing me talk about things like this, like this podcast.
uh in particular. So anytime it's something out of the ord ordinary of porn, I think my fans are like, Let me I gotta know more. I gotta watch these podcasts. I gotta read her interviews. And, you know, I think it's just a fascination of like seeing Somebody totally changed their life around. But I didn't do porn because I was in a bad place. You know, and I think that's the other thing. Uh there's no sob story here. I very, very much
Yeah. And I think that's fascinating too, where it's like you ca you too can turn your life around. You just have to make the hard choice. You have to make the uncomfortable decisions and you have to decide that you're gonna
stick it out even when it's hard and try to make this thing work, which is what I did. And so I think people see that and they s they're like, Oh, okay, this is an educated person who chose this. So surely there is something more to this. It's not just a place for degenerates. I mean
It is things, but but it is also very much a choice. Like it doesn't have to be a a like something you fall into. It can be something you choose. And I think that people are very like it's it was still a very like weird time where people were so Oly fans focused. So I got a lot of traction at the beginning because of the teaching thing. Um also I I promote what I do. I promote my hobbies. I have this this miniature house hobby that I build and I destroy them.
New York Post will tell you all about.
Yeah. And so Pete, that's an interesting tagline. You know, I I try to also do things and participate in things that are newsworth. You know, I I can but maybe I'm gonna come up with a line of dog clothes that I sew on my sewing machine'cause I'm an eighty year old woman who loves those hobbies. You know, like the and so just doing things that I'm like, could I write an article about this? are sometimes fun too. So there are definitely been some things that I'm like
I'm going to submit this and I actually just recently hit up the Daily Mail and I was like, Hey, do you guys want to do an article about me? That's the other thing. Just asking people if they're interested in hear in hearing your story because a lot of these clickbait places very much are. I also have a
doll. So the sex doll was a big like that was like my first parlay into like, oh okay. If you do something that you can promote, people interested in how like, okay, so this sex doll looks like you like that is a that is a tidbit people want to talk. And I think that's something that we don't really hear about a lot in the industry. I mean, I think we see it a lot because we see I'm like, Oh yeah, she definitely did that for the clicks, which no shame.
Totally there for clicks. I do the same thing. I just not as not as extreme sometimes as what we've seen in the in the media recently. But I think that it's very interesting to like Live this life of like What could I what else could I have written about me that I could like venture into? So now I've I've got a hot sauce that I've been I've been with for the last year.
And that's been really fun and really great and that is a whole new avenue of people. And maybe somebody will buy my hot sauce with my picture on it, but they wouldn't necessarily buy a D V D or an eight by ten. That's not maybe a step too far. But like a hot sauce is accessible.
You know, think about all the aspects of your business and who you are because like my tagline for the sauce is it's this a little spicy, a little sweet, just like me. And so it's like these cute little pieces that can be that people will remember. And it's the only thing I pulled out of it, Exotica. It's my hot sauce.
You're hot.
Yes.
I love that.
I love it. I um I've thought of our like scene idea. We can be like crazy crafting ladies.
And how I mean. What are you gonna bring?
Um we'll I'll just think of like a script. I'll uh pitch it to my husband. He'll think of some like fun stuff for us to say and we'll just be crafting and like crazy.
I just did this I did a shoot for Team Skeet and I'm like, let me tell you how I know that you used AI to write this for me. Lei had a picture of me, that picture with the with the miniature house on my hand, like this from and I'm like, Yeah, AI found examples of things Lexi has done so that somebody here can like make this And it was very much like they bought the same house and th they didn't realise it comes in a million pieces, like you have to upholster the
furniture yourself. And so I'm like, uh let me just save you the trouble. I went home five minutes away. I brought back the one that I had built and I'm like, we're gonna use this one because this will take us the entire day to build. So it's just like funny things like that that I'm like, oh yeah, you guys typed in Lexi Luna and saw the things that came up first and then you just made a scene around it.
It can be comical like an S and L skit where we're like comically like crazy crafting ladies. Oh yeah.
Wigs and everything, yeah.
I was gonna say another thing that maybe you could do for your own brand and stuff was like you could do a whole series similar to like how You know, Team Ski does that per principal thing. Well, you could be like the the student, you know, with the parent cut teacher conferences, and it could be like a whole threesome. Excellent. Let me tell you how we can get Johnny's grade up to an A.
Yeah. Not extra credit per se, but form of um increase. We don't know.
Right now he's at a D and you know I see a D and I'd love to help that.
I'd love to get that D Up in my head.
But I have to edit this right out for copyright infringement. Take this off.
Ha ha ha.
With me for a while. Have you ever had to play through injury? In honor of Michael Jordan's flu game or Daisy Fox tearing multiple meniscae ligaments in her On a Breckinridge Mountain and then still performing for several days in a row. If you ever had to play through an injury.
I've injured somebody during the Myself had to deal with it. Poor Xander Corvus, bless him, love him very much. My very first brother. I did not have fake long nails like I do now, which are very safe and very not sharp. Um I had natural nails with just gel polish and I was rubbing my clit and the corner of my nail cut the edge of his dick and he bled.
for like ten minutes. Uh then he put some super glue on it and we finished the scene. So props to Xander Corvus, I always tell this story because he is the MVP of the day because he's like, no, it's fine. I we'll just keep
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Honestly, he probably would not even remember this because that man has has dealt with any new talent that I'm sure this was just the surface of what people have done to him.
Oh
So no, I haven't necessarily work through injury like not injury per se, like yeah, I've been a little sore here and there, like and I'm like oh it'd really be great to not have sex today but
Don't worry.
There's gotta be at least something in that twenty s twenty sixth, twenty seventh, and twenty eighth day.
You didn't pull a hammer?
No, but that's the thing, like when you're going and you're c and you're just you're just in a in motion and you're doing it. Like when you stop that's that's when the injury comes. You stop and come back, that's injury. And I will say after After that month, I mean August was pretty light, obviously. But then once we got into the pandemic, I was like, Oh, I see how much sitting around.
really does not do favors for the body. I mean, and I was still very, very like in an in an age where it really would not have mattered either way, but I'm like, yeah, I can see how a physical job like the one that I have this many years later
Like oh
Yeah, I can't I can't I couldn't im I couldn't even like commit to doing anything solidly for twenty eight days, regardless of the physical activity level. But yeah, that that's probably the the the hardest lesson I've learned is that mm your body really breaks down. My face has changed much because of all the makeup and the removal of the makeup and the rubbing of the eyes. Like Perfection makeup is no joke, and it really takes a lot to get it out. And I when I have facials and not
Uh the water is still the color of my foundation because it doesn't matter how many times you cleanse and re cleanse and all of that, like it just settles in. And that that is another thing that causes a lot of like premature aging and looking like you're older than you are because You nobody really teaches you how to take care of your skin when it comes to stage makeup, which is a And so those things are like the But yeah, keeping your body physically Holding yourself in position.
Resistance. Yeah. Yeah. It's very painful in my experience mostly.
We do.
Muscular.
How are you? Yeah.
Knitting. We now have Pilates. We we know you are also able to teach. What other hidden talents exist?
Um, I can make my tongue into a three leaf clover.
It's like a genetic thing, right? Yeah.
Like are you really good at eat eating pussy and like dick socking?
I mean I don't know. I I would say I would like to think so. What other hidden talents? I'm really great at driving. I'm an Driver. I'm especially good at like reverse driving.
W what do you mean?
Like like r like backing up into spots. Okay.
Okay. Yeah. Well good for you.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. All right. Oh yeah, we'll cruise. I'm swerv I'm safe. I'm I'm aggressive, but I'm safe.
If you're not aggressive.
Make her cruising.
Yeah, that we just screws in. Well that's a fun podcast idea.
I know.
She's going too fast.
Yeah, we just like get in the car and Lexi drives you and try not to scream.
I mean.
The first thing every flinch is like minus five points.
The show, the cars and getting coffee.
Yeah, whatever.
Con karaoke. Well, uh favorite quote so far. We have to start to wind you down and get back to life, but I pulled some from the episode. I wore out that vinyl couch. This is an amazing quotation from this episode. You don't like me next.
Thank you.
Twice a year breakdown. Sounds like an indie album that would work really well. Miniature houses, just period. Uh I made a sex doll. Might be my hot sauce and little spicy, little sweet, just like me, but I want Lexi.com. I want Lexi.com. I want Lexi.com. Say it multiple times. You never know.
Pop in.
Like you're fantastic. Thank you so much for being on the podcast today. As people can tell.
I am so excited. This has been a lot of fun. You guys are great question askers and commentators, and I love all of it. So I'm happy to come back to it.
Awesome. Thank you again. Um, it's an honor and I can't wait for us to be crazy crafting ladies.
The crazy crafting lady.
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