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Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Brownedecoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm
An exiled Northern Irish anthropologist and a hitchhiking Australian psychologist take a close look at the contemporary crop of 'secular gurus', iconoclasts, and other exiles from the mainstream, offering their own brands of unique takes and special insights. Leveraging two of the most diverse accents in modern podcasting, Chris and Matt dig deep into the claims, peek behind the psychological curtains, and try to figure out once and for all... What's it all About? Join us, as we try to puzzle our way through and talk some smart-sounding smack about the intellectual giants of our age, from Jordan Peterson to Robin DiAngelo. Are they revolutionary thinkers or just grifters with delusions of grandeur? Join us and let's find out!

Episodes

The Wounded Bird Lex Fridman vs. The Evil Ukrainian Bot Farms

In this episode, we look at a recently released segment by Lex Fridman, where he reflects on his interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. We examine Lex’s self-presentation as a Christ-like figure—someone who is willing to suffer, feign naivety and ignorance, and even risk his life in the name of world peace—all while maintaining an eight-hour daily study regimen and enduring relentless, unfair attacks from Ukrainian bot farms and war-loving critics. Like true sensemakers, we also ...

Jan 22, 20251 hr 20 minEp. 118

Supplementary Material 21: The emergency snake, thought = secularised prayer, and Love and War

It's 2025, and the Gurusphere shows no signs of slowing down—so here we are, diving into some grim crossovers. This time, the bro-optimiser Andrew Huberman has teamed up with the chaos dragon himself, Jordan Peterson. Meanwhile, the ever-affectionate Lex Fridman finally scored an interview with Zelensky. Bret, however, remains preoccupied with Goliath's ongoing PsyOps. P.S. Matt broke his dongle so he's on the AirPods, we will be back to proper audio setup next episode. Supplementary Material 21...

Jan 10, 202548 min

Gurometer: Curtis Yarvin

Back once again with the dark art of Gurometry, we turn our sights to the bad boy of Silicon Valley—the mulleted maestro, the edgy eejit, Curtis Yarvin. A legend in his own mind, but how does he rank on the Gurosity scale? Join us as we dissect his essence across 11 factors, from his revolutionarily mundane and incoherent ideas to his dazzling absence of charisma. Tune in as we feed this 'dark enlightenment' thinker into the Gurometer and reveal his true colours. The full episode is available fo...

Jan 02, 202517 min

Supplementary Material 20: Stolen Valour, Based Murder, and Eric Weinstein's Phonecall Problems

In this end-of-year supplementary material, we unleash the hounds of war, battle through the discourse, and emerge alive but bloody and battered on the other side. Enlist now and join the fight. Supplementary Material 20 00:00 Introduction and Ethnographic Insights 01:38 Matt's Observations from Washington DC 05:50 Smithsonian Museums and Star Wars Memorabilia 07:48 Lego Creations and Gacha Collectibles 12:13 Social Media and Blue Sky 'Culture' 13:29 Matt's Contribution: Eric Weinstein's UFO Spe...

Dec 27, 202440 min

Curtis Yarvin: The Edgelord's Guide to Monarchy 40K

In this long-anticipated episode, Matt and Chris venture into the peculiar world of Curtis Yarvin—a reactionary blogger, tech entrepreneur, and self-proclaimed monarchist. Known to his early followers by the pseudonym "Mencius Moldbug," Yarvin has become a prominent figure in the "dark enlightenment" and neo-reactionary circles. Some have even hailed him as an "intellectual powerhouse" of the modern far-right, with endorsements from influential figures like Peter Thiel and J.D. Vance. But what i...

Dec 25, 20242 hr 42 minEp. 117

DTG Christmas Quiz 2024 with Helen Lewis & Badstats

In this special festive episode, Chris and Matt are joined by seasoned decoder and quiz master Helen Lewis to discuss the myths around genius, extract her 2025 Guru predictions, and, of course, participate in that most sacred of DTG traditions: Helen's annual Guru Quiz. Once again, the decoders must prove their mastery of the gurusphere’s esoteric knowledge, and once again, one decoder will come up short. Who will it be? You already know... but do your best to feign surprise! But that’s not all!...

Dec 13, 20241 hr 33 minEp. 116

Supplementary Material 19: Critic-O-Rama with extra trans-dimensional alien demons

In this truly epic-length supplementary material, we spin 70 critical paradigms simultaneously while trying to avoid the wily tricks of some hostile transdimensional forces. Do we succeed? Join us to find out! Supplementary Material 19 00:24 Introduction: More American Insights(!) 13:12 Peterson Orbiters: The Pageau Brothers 17:41 Pageau & Rod Dreher: Aliens are transdimensional spirits 25:56 Pageau: Alex Jones was Right! 27:01 Peterson & Pageau's Lazy Christian Apologetics 44:17 Joe Rog...

Nov 29, 202448 min

Dawkins vs. Peterson: There Be Dragons

In this special episode, we return to the forboding Dragon's Den of the Peterson-verse and enjoy a rather punchy conversation between Jordan Peterson and Richard Dawkins, facilitated by Alex O'Connor. As always, the discussion is dense with abstract symbolic interpretations, evasive answers to direct questions about biblical events, and highly speculative claims. So Matt and Chris don their best decoding armour, steel their resolve, and prepare to face down endless waves of indulgent analogies a...

Nov 24, 20241 hr 38 minEp. 116

Supplementary Material 18: The Clown Car Cometh

Still in the land of the free and restocked with important new insights from his US travels, Matt is confronted with the Gurusphere's predictably depressing reaction to the election. And what's that we hear in the distance... is it a honking car? Supplementary Material 18 00:00 Matt's American Ethnography 10:59 Eric Weinstein is waiting for the call 14:32 Huberman, Krauss, and MAGA Sycophancy 18:39 Boghossian and other would-be Intellectual Clerics of the MAGA regime 22:52 Sam Harris criticises ...

Nov 16, 202438 min

Sabine Hossenfelder: Science is a Liar ... Sometimes

In this highly non-topical episode, Matt and Chris dive into the entertainingly gruff world of Sabine Hossenfelder, the German theoretical physicist and popular YouTube science communicator. Known as a joyful science curmudgeon, Sabine excels at making complex science accessible to a wide audience. Yet, there's another side to her content: one that's increasingly steeped in the YouTube algorithm’s culture-war-fueled clickbait, complete with prolific both-sidesing and even hints of her own brand ...

Nov 12, 20241 hr 51 minEp. 115

Guru US Election Special

Matt and Chris dip their toes into the fetid, guru-infested swamp surrounding the 2024 U.S. election. Straining to see what lurks in the murky depths, they encounter dark shapes, including Eric Weinstein pledging his services to whoever wins (or will give him a call), Joe Rogan conspiracy hypothesizing with Donald Trump, the Free Press hosting a truly heterodox election party, Michael Moynihan pulling no punches, and finally, Jordan Peterson’s shockingly sycophantic psychological assessment of D...

Nov 04, 20241 hr 54 minEp. 114

Supplementary Material 17: American Dreams, YouTube Algorithms, and Poisonous Plastics

In this episode, Chris and Matt open the lid on Matt's adventures in America. Basking in the land of the free, Matt is forced to consider YouTube dynamics, indulgent podcast conversations, potential Russian influence campaigns, and the environmental toxins that sound him. We will return soon with another SM election special and a better mic for Matt! Content 00:00 Introduction 03:20 Matt's American Insights 10:41 Flint Dibble, Graham Hancock & a silly racist 19:21 YouTube & Audience Capt...

Nov 01, 202432 min

Book Review: The Selfish Gene

In this special international episode of Decoding the Gurus, Chris and Matt jump on the hottest online topic and devote an hour to reviewing Richard Dawkins' influential work from the 1970s, The Selfish Gene. This book influenced Matt and Chris when they were teenage decoders, but how does it hold up now that they have evolved into (quasi)adult forms? Based on their rereading of the book they discuss its contribution to the public understanding of evolution, the academic and public controversies...

Oct 28, 20241 hr 16 min

Interview with Flint Dibble (Round 2): Battling Pseudo Archaeology & Sharing Science

We return to the world of lost civilizations, pseudo-archaeology, and real archaeology with Cardiff University archaeologist Flint Dibble. Sadly the senior member of the Decoding team was absent for the interview but junior decoder Chris struggled on as best he could. This episode, recorded just before the release of Ancient Apocalypse Season 2 on Netflix and Graham Hancock's associated podcast PR tour, examines the appeal of myths like Atlantis, criticisms Flint has faced from Hancock and other...

Oct 20, 20241 hr 55 minEp. 113

John Vervaeke and Jordan Peterson: Word Worshipers

That's right—we’re back in the heady world of sense-making, but don't worry, we're just in time to witness the final resolution of the ever-looming 'Meaning Crisis.' Join Matt and Chris as they embark on an epic journey with the cognitively inclined philosopher John Vervaeke and none other than the uber-guru, Jordan Peterson, himself. Together, they navigate a vast semantic web of meaning that spans discussions of Power, Beauty, Love, Religion, and, of course... the Logos! Along the way, we'll p...

Oct 15, 20243 hr 5 minEp. 112

Supplementary Material 16: Riding a Phoenix to Rescue the Gurusphere

We plunge ever deeper into the convoluted world of guru punditry and are dazzled at the theatrics at the 'Rescue the Republic' event, inspired by the profound insights of Eric Weinstein on political speeches, and thrilled at Michael Moynihan's hard knock interview with the moderate heterodox thinker Megyn Kelly. Join us won't you? 00:00 Introduction and Health Check Adventures 04:15 Exploring the GuruSphere and GuruCon 08:57 Matt and Chris Debate Round 1: The Unholy Alliance 16:35 Russell Brand ...

Oct 08, 202448 min

Gurometer: Dr. K (Bonus Preview)

There are many different systems for quantifying a person's essential essence. You could use an Ayurvedic questionnaire to determine your doshic levels, you could consult an astrologer to identify your most auspicious dates and the origins of your personality quirks, or you could even ask a psychologist to take a personality inventory and discover your OCEAN traits. But if you want pure insight, crystallised through something that is BEYOND science, you must find yourself that very rare and extr...

Oct 05, 202453 minEp. 111

Decoding Academia 30: Sadistic Trolls love Dark Humour *Preview*

This is a preview episode to remind those who might be interested that we have a bonus Decoding Academia series, available at the Patreon at the Revolutionary Genius tier and above, which is now up to episode 30! On Decoding Academia we usually focus on specific papers and indulge our more nerdy and academic tendencies. It is almost like a journal club of two! In this episode, we take a look at a study exploring the connections between Dark Humour, online trolling, and Dark personality tendencie...

Oct 02, 202433 min

Darryl Cooper, Nazi Apologetics, & Disturbances in the Discourse

Join Matt and Chris for a deep dive into the discourse created by Darryl Cooper’s controversial interview with Tucker Carlson. The decoders tackle Cooper’s revisionist takes on Winston Churchill, Hitler, and WWII, asking whether throwing in strategic disclaimers really makes it all okay. They also explore reactions from the wider comment-o-sphere, including the musings of libertarian firebrand/idiot Dave Smith, mainstream historians and history YouTubers, and the hosts of Triggernometry, Konstan...

Sep 24, 20242 hr 24 minEp. 110

Supplementary Material 15: Russian Stooges, Lex Love-bombs, and Heterodox Hypocrisy

We rip off the unconvincing plastic mask to reveal the true gurus lurking underneath and discuss: Russian Propaganda and Influencer Scandal Profit Incentives in Alternative Media and the Need for Disclosure Excessive Profiteering and Advertising Lex Fridman interviews Trump (with love) Trump and Anti-Vaxx Conspiracy Theories Trump and Kamala Debate Reactions and Heterodox Takes Destiny vs. the Low Bar of the Alternative Media When Joe met Bret Rogan & Bret's Massive Projection and Hypocrisy ...

Sep 16, 202452 min

Dr. K (Part 3): Therapeutic Non-Therapy

Join Matt and Chris as they conclude their deep dive into the content of Dr. K, the streaming psychiatrist behind Healthy Gamer GG. In previous episodes, they explored his promotion of Ayurvedic medicine and his use of the rhetorical strategies often seen in Complementary and Alternative Medicine spaces. This time, they tackle his more controversial work: the (non)therapy sessions with influencers, focusing particularly on his challenging and controversial conversation with the late streamer Rec...

Sep 13, 20244 hr 29 minEp. 109

Supplementary Materials 14: Return to the Gurusphere

World travels complete the Guru Decoders reconvene to examine how the Gurusphere has been behaving in their absence. Bad news abounds. Featuring: Introduction and Hosts' Reunion Chris's Travel Tales Cultural Observations and Comparisons Health Concerns and Anti-Vax Movement RFK Jr. and Political Endorsements Quarantine Measures in History Bret Weinstein endorses Trump Eric Weinstein's quasi-endorsement Stephen Bartlett promotes Bret and gets in trouble for ads Plagiarism Allegations against Robi...

Aug 31, 202446 min

Supplementary Materials 13: Dead Bears, Biblical Stories, and Coffeezilla's Legal Battle

We reflect on the meaning of some biblical scriptures to understand the gurus, alongside: Jonathan Pageau gets into the Olympics RFK Jnr. and the Dead Bear Guru Dystopia: Trump Meets Adin Ross Eric Weinstein enters the 2024 Campaign The penetrating insights of Joe Rogan Coffeezilla fights back against Logan Paul's defamation case Litigious Musk and nuisance lawsuits Celebrity cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and other scams Flashbacks to Simon Singh vs. The British Chiropractic Association Elon Musk's In...

Aug 14, 202444 min

Bryan Johnson: Definitely not a vampire!

In this life-enhancing episode, Matt and Chris venture into the futuristic world of tech entrepreneur and biohacker Bryan Johnson, clarifying along the way that he’s not the ACDC frontman. They examine Johnson's Project Blueprint and 'Don't Die' movement—a quest for indefinite lifespan extension through supplements and lifestyle changes—and consider whether their apprehension means they are actually death lovers gorging themselves each day on death burgers and life-draining whiskey. The decoders...

Aug 11, 20241 hr 22 minEp. 108

Supplementary Materials 12: Olympic Ceremonies and Presidential Candidates

We tour the Guru-sphere's balanced and considered response to the Olympics Opening Ceremony and Kamala Harris replacing Biden as the Democratic presidential candidate. And oh boy are they on form! Addressing Petty Grievances: The Show's Format The Furor French Olympics Opening Ceremony Trump's Assassination Conspiracies The Great Flowering of Kamala Harris Takes Konstantin Kisin and Cringe Immunity Steven Pinker vs. Triggernometry Bret Weinstein's New Conspiracy Hypothesis The Wonders of Peterso...

Aug 03, 202446 min

Gabor Maté: Achieving Authenticity, Tackling Trauma, and Minimizing Modern Malaise

Join Matt and Chris as they hunker down with the dulcet reassuring tones of Gabor Maté, the Hungarian-Canadian physician renowned for his unconventional perspectives on trauma, stress, and addiction. Inspired by Maté they reflect on early childhood experiences, explore whether unprocessed trauma has steered them towards a life engulfed by modern gurus, and discover how to stay true to their authentic selves & avoid manifesting debilitating illnesses. With an atmospheric background storm sett...

Aug 03, 20242 hr 49 minEp. 107

Supplementary Materials 11: Alex Jones is at it again

We are a little behind the news cycle with this release, so we apologise for that. For context this episode was recorded after Trump's assassination attempt but before Biden announced he was stepping down. We will return with the Gurusphere's insane reaction to that event next time. Here we consider: Trump's leaked conversation with RFK Junior A very special request from Matt Tammy Peterson's admiration for Tommy Robinson Alex Jones releasing NEW Sandy Hook conspiracy theories on InfoWars Jonath...

Jul 27, 202442 min

Ranking the Gurus

Decoding the Gurus is now a venerable institution and as such we have built up quite a menagerie of would-be gurus and even a handful of not-really gurus. So like all the hip kids today, we decided to look back at our previous gurus and arrange them on a tier list of Secular Guruosity. If you would like to play along we’ve made a version accessible online so you can provide your rankings ( available here ) or you can see ours. Also, due to an image-importing hiccup, we missed Sam Harris (B), Rob...

Jul 25, 20241 hr 3 minEp. 106

Supplementary Materials 10: Rigorous Conspiracy Hypothesising about the Trump Shooting

A special Supplementary Material where we take a gander at some of the reactions to the recent assassination attempt on Trump and then dig deeper with some responsible model conspiracy hypothesizing with Bret and Heather. Also featuring: Our completely predictable response to the shooting John Cusack's Conspiracy Theory Tim Kennedy's Conspiracy Venn Diagram Scientific Cosplay with Bret and Heather Learning about logic with Heather The Lab Leak theory revisited with Bret The Fall of Plato's Cave ...

Jul 19, 202432 min

Dr. K (Part 2): Rhetorical Judo Flips

Join Matt and Chris for a trademark 'short' episode as they continue to navigate the complex, occasionally controversial world of Dr. K in this second multi-dimensional episode. This time they take a look at some more recent content and reflect on whether they were wrong to identify Dr. K as such a strong advocate of Ayurvedic medicine. In their investigations, they explore the science of visualisation and manifestation, updated genomic information about the Doshas, and the power of mantras to b...

Jul 08, 20243 hr 58 minEp. 105
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