What AI anime memes tell us about the future of art and humanity
Apr 03, 2025•1 hr
Summary
Brian Merchant joins Nilay Patel to discuss the ongoing AI art debate, focusing on the controversy surrounding Studio Ghibli memes and the broader implications for art, artists, and copyright. They explore the economic pressures AI places on artists, the moral and ethical considerations of using AI art generators, and the tech industry's engagement with art. The conversation also covers potential solutions for supporting artists in the age of AI and the future of creative work.Episode description
Today, we’re diving head first into the AI art debate, which to be honest, is an absolute mess. If you’ve been on the internet this past week, you’ve seen the Studio Ghibli memes. These images are everywhere — and they’ve widened an already pretty stark rift between AI boosters and critics.
Brian Merchant, author of the newsletter and book Blood in the Machine, wrote one of the best analyses of the Ghibli trend last week. So I invited him onto the show not only to discuss this particular situation, but also to help me dissect the ongoing AI art debate more broadly.
Links:
OpenAI's Studio Ghibli meme factory is an insult to art itself | Brian Merchant
Seattle engineer’s Ghibli-style image goes viral | Seattle Times
OpenAI just raised another $40 billion round from SoftBank | Verge
ChatGPT “added one million users in the last hour.” | Verge
ChatGPT’s Ghibli filter is political now, but it always was | Verge
OpenAI, Google ask the government to let them train on content they don’t own | Verge
Studio Ghibli in the age of A.I. reproduction | Max Read
OpenAI has a Studio Ghibli problem | Vergecast
AI slop is a brute force attack on the algorithms that control reality | 404 Media
The New Aesthetics of Fascism | New Socialist
Credits:
Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.
The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.
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