ChatGPT chief Nick Turley doesn't want you too attached to AI
Summary
This episode features an interview with Nick Turley, OpenAI's head of ChatGPT, delving into the recent GPT-5 rollout and the unexpected user backlash over the removal of the previous 4.0 model, highlighting deep user attachment to AI personalities. Turley explains OpenAI's evolving strategies for model deprecation, addressing negative societal impacts of AI, and exploring future monetization beyond subscriptions, including commerce and the potential for ChatGPT to evolve far beyond its current chatbot form factor into a 'super assistant.'Episode description
This is Alex Heath, your Thursday episode guest host and deputy editor at The Verge. Today, I’m talking to a very special guest: Nick Turley, OpenAI’s head of ChatGPT.
While Sam Altman is definitely the public face of OpenAI, Nick has been leading ChatGPT’s development since the very beginning, and it’s now the fastest-growing software product of all time with more than 700 million weekly users. So, Nick and I talk about the backlash against OpenAI’s removal of its GPT-4o model, the future of ChatGPT itself, solving hallucinations, and why he thinks it eventually won’t look like a chatbot at all.
Read the full transcript on The Verge.
Links:
- ChatGPT won’t remove old models without warning after GPT-5 backlash | Verge
- ChatGPT is bringing back 4o as an option because people missed it | Verge
- GPT-5 is being released to all ChatGPT users | Verge
- The 6 biggest changes coming to ChatGPT | Verge
- ChatGPT has 20 million paying subscribers | Verge
- Elon Musk says he’s suing Apple for rigging App Store rankings | Verge
- OpenAI’s ChatGPT to hit 700 million weekly users | CNBC
- Chatbots can go into a delusional spiral. Here’s how it happens | NYT
- ChatGPT gave instructions for murder, self-mutilation, and devil worship | The Atlantic
- ‘I feel like I’m going crazy’: ChatGPT fuels delusional spirals | WSJ
Credits:
Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. This episode was edited by Xander Adams.
The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.
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