Governments have been spending their way through the pandemic, so what happens to that money? Regular listeners will understand how this spending gets added to the money supply, but then what? Steve Keen looks at the impact of government spending on the private sector, and Phil Dobbie asks if this is a prime example of modern monetary theory in action? Could the COVID years be used as the case study of how MMT works? There’s also some discussion on whether government handouts, like furlough paym...
Oct 08, 2021•38 min•Season 1Ep. 274
Steve Keen is a man of many surprises. His latest is that he is going to stand for the Senate in New South Wales. He’s packing his bags and heading back to Australia, for an election that will be held early next year. He’ll be one of six senate candidates in NSW for the New Liberals. So, is this a good move? From an academic to a politician, from developing and challenging theories to creating soundbites for TV? Phil Dobbie asks why he is making the move, what are his chances and what does the N...
Oct 05, 2021•35 min•Season 1Ep. 273
COVID is causing supply disruptions the world over, evidenced by disruptions to supply chains and rising producer prices and consumer prices. Central banks are quick to suggest this is a temporary measure, and inflation will start to fall as quickly as it rose. And yet, they are also making noises about raising interest rates, as a way of controlling inflation. Last week the Bank of England was hinting that could happen sooner, rather than later, even as they implement quantitative easing. Phil ...
Sep 26, 2021•35 min•Season 1Ep. 272
Central banks around the world are at different stages of how they supposedly deal with the COVId-19 crisis. Most are implementing some form of QE, but many are now reducing their purchases, and some are even lifting interest rates. How can they all have a different monetary approach to dealing with the same crisis? And can any claim to have been operating independently, buying up the increasing amount of debt issued by their respective governments? With the big four central banks (the BoE, the ...
Sep 17, 2021•11 min•Season 1Ep. 271
Whilst the UK still lumbers under high COVID infection rates, and the economic recovery stalls, with GDP growth now at a trickle, the government wants to raise taxes. Even if you believed it was a fair tax, is next April – when the rise kicks in – the time to be taking spending money out of people’s pockets. But, as Phil Dobbie discusses with Prof Steve Keen, this is far from a fair tax. Those earning over £50,000 per year will pay disproportionately less than those on lower incomes. The money w...
Sep 11, 2021•37 min•Season 1Ep. 270
There’s a lot happening with China right now. First, they are extending their social and commercial controls, which is adding uncertainty to foreign investors looking to get involved with Chinese firms. Maybe the Communist Party likes it that way. There’s also the risk that a more cocooned China could play a stronger military role in the Asia Pacific region. Then there’s the ever-expanding debt – private and government. Hilliard MacBeth, a Debunking Economics listener asks whether private sector...
Sep 05, 2021•36 min•Season 1Ep. 269
Following on from a fortnight ago, what happens as resources start to become scarce? We’re already seeing the short-term impact of supply chain disruption because of COVID, but what when this becomes more common, and we have to get used to the idea of not always getting what we want? Prof Steve Keen suggests that rationing of goods might be the only way forward, but Phil Dobbie asks whether a shift to a more localised service-oriented economy might cut our demand for resources, particularly if t...
Aug 29, 2021•39 min•Season 1Ep. 268
More students than ever are off to university next month because of the A level grade inflation, accentuated by teacher assessments replacing exam results because of COVID. How useful is it to society to have more and more people studying at university? Is it adding to the GDP of the country? In today’s podcast Steve Keen suggests that we are devaluing a university education, which helps nobody. He explains why. And Phil Dobbie suggests, for those who don’t reach university standards – or who si...
Aug 19, 2021•41 min•Season 1Ep. 267
We’ve talked about the climate change crisis on the Debunking Economics podcast, but there’s a broader issue we all face, highlighted in the Club of Rome back in 1972. We are chewing up resources faster than they can be renewed or sourced. It’s not just oil, but iron ore for steel production and previous metals used in microprocessors. Simon Michaux, associate professor at the Geological Survey of Finland, joins Phil Dobbie and Steve Keen to talk through the scale of the issue and how it’s alrea...
Aug 12, 2021•45 min•Season 1Ep. 266
Many governments have done an excellent job at propping up businesses during the pandemic. For example, paying companies to furlough workers will, in theory, enable those businesses to quickly bounce back, with a workforce ready to go. But what if the pandemic drags on for years to come? Already governments are talking about how they will claw back the massive increase in government spending. And, whilst large corporations might have the cash to survive, perhaps after a little restructuring, sma...
Aug 05, 2021•34 min•Season 1Ep. 265
Karl Marx never advocated violent revolution, but he did expect that the power balance between capitalists and workers would change. On today’s podcast Steve Keen tells Phil Dobbie that Marx wrongly expected that profits would ultimately shrink, so workers would be fighting for a slice of a shrinking pie. That’s not happened. Perhaps the main reason we’ve avoided a violent revolution is because the poor have become richer, just not as much as the very rich. It could be a different story soon tho...
Jul 30, 2021•39 min•Season 1Ep. 264
Steve Keen has often said, the problem with economics in, it ignores thermodynamics. That’s not always been the case. Georgescu-Roegen, a Romanian economist, wrote The Entropy Law and the Economic Process in 1971, which embraced the orle of energy and waste in economics. But we’ve taken backward steps since then. This week Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen to explain what thermodynamics is and why it is critical to the forward direction for economics. Without it, can we really save the planet? Hosted ...
Jul 26, 2021•42 min•Season 1Ep. 263
Even the most ardent free marketeer accepts that there is some degree of subsidy needed to support low income earners or necessary industries that are not commercially viable. This has particularly been the case through the pandemic. But what’s the best way of applying these subsidies? If you pay directly to companies will you be inhibiting efficiencies and competition. If you pay directly to consumers how do you know they will spend the as you intended? Should governments be offering payments t...
Jul 16, 2021•39 min•Season 1Ep. 262
From day one economics students are taught that their discipline is all about the optimal allocation of resources. The concept of scarcity is at the very heart of how we are supposed to think. And yet, as Prof Steve Ken explains this week, that scarcity doesn’t really exist. There’s plenty of people available to do jobs, there’s masses of untapped energy potential from the sun. This challenges the idea of opportunity cost – why do A or B when you can do A and B? Ironically, the one recource whic...
Jul 08, 2021•34 min•Season 1Ep. 261
Canada and the west coast of the US have been hit with extreme heat the last week. The town of Lytton in British Columbia reached 49.5C, the result of a heat dome caused by static high-pressure. It’s another reminder that the world has to act on climate change. This week the ECB’s Christine Lagarde talked about how the EU needs to see around €330 billion every year by 2030 to achieve Europe's climate and energy target. Couldn’t they just issue this as bonds, in the same way they have with the Pa...
Jul 01, 2021•43 min•Season 1Ep. 260
Businesses and politicians have worked tirelessly to reduce the power of workers and dissemble unions. Of course, nobody was better at it than Margaret Thatcher. But has she, and all those did their damnedest to reduce the power of unions, actually done the country a disservice? Do economies function better with strong unions? Are they the necessary counter to a system that allows companies and financiers to push wages down to the lowest possible level leading to slow economic growth? Questions ...
Jun 25, 2021•40 min•Season 1Ep. 259
Boris Johnson has enjoyed photo opportunities this week with Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison with the announcement of an ‘in-principle’ free trade agreement between the two countries. It’s the first new one for the UK outside those that already existed through the EU. Great news for biscuit eaters, because Tim Tams are so much better than Penguins. But it’s seen as bad news by UK farmers who adhere to standards that don’t exist in the UK. Like hormone fed beef. So, is it a bad deal? And...
Jun 17, 2021•32 min•Season 1Ep. 258
The world is fixated with the present. We want to earn money quickly and spend it quickly. CEOs don’t care about much beyond their stock options, politicians only work to getting re-elected, consumers want instant gratification. It’s no wonder then that we’re not prepared to make compromises for long term consequences, like climate change, because the economic system we use has no way of managing our investment in the future. Is there a better way of managing the economy, in a way that ensures w...
Jun 10, 2021•36 min•Season 1Ep. 257
Today on the podcast Phil Dobbie talks to Steve Keen about the value of things. Supposedly, price is a substitute for value, meaning if someone is prepared to pay more for something then they must value it more. But as they discuss, that only applies if everyone has the same amount of money. A poor household will place greater value, as a proportion of their wealth, on heating their home. A rich household will see extra use of that same resources as a discretionary item that they place little va...
Jun 03, 2021•35 min•Season 1Ep. 256
US inflation is now running at 4.2% on an annual basis, and producer prices the world over have been rising as input costs for product creep up. How much of this will be passed on to the consumer as companies struggle to absorb these costs – and what impact will these higher prices have on demand? Central banks are all toeing the same line, that rising inflation is only transitory, driven by supply chain disruption, so there’s n o need for them to respond by pushing up interest rates anytime soo...
May 26, 2021•34 min•Season 1Ep. 255
This pandemic has been massive amounts spent by governments, and a chunk of that government debt is being bought by central banks. But with central banks buying up government bonds, whilst maintaining low interest rates, who is really benefiting? The answer, of course, is the wealthy. This week Steve Keen explains why the current situation is widening inequality, with the central banks at the front and centre of tis change. But government policy is helping too, in the wrong direction. So, is the...
May 20, 2021•35 min•Season 1Ep. 254
There seems to be an assumption by many that the crisis we have experienced will quickly bounce back. Output will resume, demand will return, everyone will be back in work and the economy will rapidly expand back to where it was before COVID. Central banks appoint to supply chain disruption in the short term that might create transit inflation, but that’s the only obstacle to the road to recovery. Except, it’s not really working that way. There are forecasts for massive growth this year, but the...
May 10, 2021•36 min•Season 1Ep. 253
There’s one clear difference between this recession and almost all those that have gone before. This time there was a pandemic involved, which hit demand and supply equally. So are there any similarities between this global recession and those that have gone before. Phil Dobbie puts the question to Steve Keen in this latest Debunking Economics podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
May 02, 2021•36 min•Season 1Ep. 252
40 world leaders go together virtually this week, for a bit of an impromptu climate summit called by Joe Biden, before the next big climate conference (COP26) in Glasgow in November. In this edition of the Debunking Economics podcast, Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen whether Bill Gatesd has the right approach. He advocates removing the green premium. His argument is, we don’t choose zero carbon emissions products because they are more expensive. If you remove this premium, then everyone will buy zero...
Apr 24, 2021•10 min•Season 1Ep. 251
Janet Yellen has repeatedly called for countries to raise their corporate taxes, so they are in-line with the increases she has planned for the US. There’s also been a call for companies to be taxed where they earn their revenue, rather than declaring profits in countries where tax is lowest. Her reasoning is transparent, of course. She wants to raise corporate taxes in the US and doesn’t want countries to move overseas, or shift their profits out of America. Is it a good idea? Prof Steve Keen l...
Apr 12, 2021•32 min•Season 1Ep. 250
You might have thought that digital currencies were the domain of cryptocurrency evangelists, and were largely stores of wealth rather than money used for transactions. Now, it seems, central banks everywhere are investigating digital currencies as part of their modus operandi. Most money in central banks is digital, of course, so when they discuss digital money what exactly are they talking about? This week Phil Dobbier talks to Prof Steve Keen about why central banks are looking more closely a...
Apr 04, 2021•33 min•Season 1Ep. 249
Last week we looked at how economics text books that taught us the law of demand, and how fundamentally flawed it was. Today, equally as useless, the law of supply, with the supply curve representing the marginal cost of producing goods. Steve explains how its is flawed because of the assumption that as you produce more of something the cost of production rises. Phil asks, how does that relate to the idea of economies of scale? Is conventional economic theory arguing against itself? Hosted on Ac...
Mar 28, 2021•40 min•Season 1Ep. 248
Steve Keen believes the way we look at economics is wrong from the ground up. Take the demand curve, for example. It shows how, when prices fall demand goes up, and vice versa. Whilst it works at an individual level, but attempts by theoreticians to demonstrate that this works at the aggregate level have all failed. In this episode we look at the Sonnerschein-Mantel-Debreu theorem, which looks at how price changes of one good will impact your consumption of that good and all others. The big fail...
Mar 19, 2021•35 min•Season 1Ep. 247
Post Brexit we were promised a global Britain. It’s got off to a bad start with a massive fall in exports to the EU in the first month of this new utopia. Meanwhile, there seems to be a lot of talk about Britain accepting inward investment, in particular encouraging foreign firms to list on the London stock exchange. This week Phil Dobbie discusses the various types of foreign trade, from inward to outward FDIs, corporate takeovers and UK share listings by foreign firms. Will any of these benefi...
Mar 12, 2021•37 min•Season 1Ep. 246
The UK chose to respond to a global pandemic by reducing the amount of money given in foreign aid. Yet COVID-19 is attacking every country in the world. So is climate change. And there will be other viruses to come. For example, Ebola is reported to be out of control in West Africa right now. It is not as infectious as COVID-19, but its fatality rate is way higher (maybe as much as 50 percent). So, how does the west protect the developing world, and itself, through mass vaccinations. Can it fund...
Mar 05, 2021•30 min•Season 1Ep. 245
