There Is No Fairy Tale with Lindsey Vonn

Never I'd ever say oh, no, that words, those words go in the opposite direction or anything. But she is riding me like a wave wants to be broke out off my jock. I'm like, do you want me to learn Spanish? Or don't you if you keep putting up these barriers? Uh? And she just loves it, though, But I gotta give it to her, like I know that that must be satisfying for her to be able to correct me all the time. And you asked her to to Well, yeah, I said I wanted to speak Spanish.

You could let me slide a little bit with my grammar. But you know what I love. I'm such a grammarian. I care so much about grammar that I really want. I want to speak proper Spanish anyway, It's just it's too much of a beginner's Spanish to be there yet. Yeah, what have I learned this week? I learned about Cuba and sugar. Well, you know, after this, I learned all about Spain. Oh, I have to promote a show April twenty. It's Spokane. That's the second show we added in Spokane.

It's not quite sold out, so please buy your tickets, you motherfucker's. And what other shows do I need to promote? Well, they're all really almost sold out. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That one's not sold out yet. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That's a big one. That's like people. So yeah, go to Chelsea Headler dot com. There are some tickets for some other shows. But yeah, and I'm going to add a whole bunch of new dates I think sometime this month. Yeah, fantastic.

It's so hard to figure out where I am. I thought I was in Cuba, so I learned all about the Spanish conquering Cuba, and then the English conquering Cuba, and then they had a treaty and they gave Cuba back to Spain, and then they kept Florida, and then they kept the Lower Mississippi some areas around there, and then they discovered sugar during the Atlantic slave trade, which was started by the English. I'd like to say that make sure we mentioned so that people fucking understand history,

because I am so confused about so many things. I was like, where didn't we all come from Egypt to my brother one day He's like, no, you asshole, And so now I'm reading a book. Then we all came from Africa. Everybody came from Africa. Ye, So anyway, the sugar. Yeah, so Cuba was the center of sugar for a long time.

Slaves were responsible for all of the prosperity of the United States, beginning the United States and basically taking all of the sugarcane, hacking it, cutting it, transferring it, blah blah blah. And so that's when the Atlantic slave trade peaked, was during the sugar I want to say rush, but I don't think it's called the rush. I like calling it a sugar rush. Yeah, sugar rush, that's a different that's a different. That's something too, So yeah, there's that.

And then I'm learning about Neanderthals and Denisovans and Anatolia and Homo erectus and how we all kind of changed and when we split off, like right before Homo erectus we split off, we diverged. One became chimpanzees and the other became modern humans. Oh my god, short history of humanity is called. I need to read what you're reading, because like, as a kid who grew up going to Christian school, where we had let's say, a warped and abbreviated version of science, I didn't even know that like

Pangaea existed until I was in college. I remember saying to a teacher once, why does it look like the two, you know, halves of the earth would fit together? And they're like, that's just a funny thing. God dead Like that kind of stuff was what I grew up. I also believed that we were everything was connected, even the islands, and not all the islands like Sardinia Corsica were never part of the mainland. They were just like they were volcanic. Yes, yes,

so they have their own thing going. So that's interesting too, that that would naturally happen that there would be islands sprinkled everywhere, you know, I mean, I guess I got such bad science education. I didn't even remember the word for continents, you know, the halves of the world. It's just wild. Yeah, it is wild. And I know you know you read something and you'd retain I'd be interested in my level of retainment. I want to take tests after every book I read to see how much I

took in. I think we're trying to send you back to college. I wouldn't go back to send some sort of curriculum quite frankly, Okay, what do we got. What's happening to? Well, Chelsea, I have my ski buddy on today, but I won't tell you that is until she's on. That's very exciting. So, Chelsea, I had an email come in about Dana, who had called in her stepson was being sort of vaguely creepy and yes, yes, and she mentioned like he was maybe being a little too touchy

feely with her son. And I just thought this email was so important that I wanted to share it with you. Heather says, Hello, Chelsea and Catherine. I wanted to say thank you for providing the audience with the mother that called in about her steps on she feels uncomfortable around. While I had no doubt this would be a response, I truly appreciate you not minimizing the seriousness of needing to take action to protect her younger son, self and family.

I'm also in awe of the mother's strength to reach out for advice, because that is so tricky. I mean, it's like it's the sort of nebulous thing. My personal story includes eight plus years of a very close family friend grooming me as a child with uncomfortable touching, inappropriate sexual conversations for an adult to have with a child, shower peeping, accidental quote unquote porn exposure, and more. While rape never occurred, it has left years worth of trauma

response that I'm working through with a great therapist. However, at the time it was brushed off by others as creepy old man vibes or that shoulder or waiste touching wasn't considered a sexual touch even if I didn't want it. I think I was meant to hear this podcast today as my therapy session this week was focused on my continued struggle with not freezing in a moment when someone touches me in a suggestive but not legally sexual way.

The mother listening to her intuition and taking charge to keep her young sons safe could have a huge impact on her son's future. It's something I wish would have happened for myself. Her older stepson clearly also needs support, and I'm thankful you communicated to prioritize safety of family while acknowledging his need for help too. It's these conversations and stories that I hope will help others think differently on the impact these quote unquote micro traumas can have

over time. Thanks so much for your awesomeness ensuring both the funny and needed stories of our lives. Heather. I like how she said micro trauma because I learned about complex trauma from a friend of mine over the weekend who I hung out with, and he was telling me about complex trauma is trauma overtime, right, like neglect or alcoholism or drug addiction, something like that that you're that

you lay witness to. If you have a sibling that has a terrible schizophrenia, that would be complex trauma, which is different than event trauma and PTSD is related to event trauma. But I want to underline the intuition part because more and more people are talking about intuition and understanding that it is a very concrete, if not measurable thing. And for every woman and man that is listening to all our gays, you all have it. We all have intuition.

We all have a feeling in our stomach and our gut. Sometimes it's in your heart, or it feels like in your heart, but it is really in your gut when you meet someone, and it's the exact opposite of the feeling you get when you know something's wrong, when somebody comes into your space a person and you know they're dangerous right away you see that they're sketchy, or that

they're unhinged, or that they're unpredictable. That feeling right there, you could also have in the opposite way about something you should do, or somebody you should move towards, or a thing that is right, And if you really listen to yourself, you are going to know what that is.

And we don't talk about intuition in the way that we need to, because young girls need to trust their intuition, They need to trust the way that their body feels because your body will tell your brain what is happening, and it is. It's such a concrete thing. It's like you when you're in a certain situation or you're around someone who makes you uncomfortable, it turns into a physical reaction. Your stomach gets in a knot, your hair goes up on the back of your neck. Like trust your changes.

The way are holding yourself and carrying yourself changes, like the body is communicating with you. Yeah. You know, sometimes I fold my arms when I'm in a conversation, and I realize how offputting that is. Like that's the definition of being defensive, is having your arms folded, even if that's a comfortable position for you. That's how it's kind of received most of the time. And that's because my

body's doing it. My body is saying, oh, I'm uncomfortable in this conversation, and you have to listen to those signals. Or you know, sometimes it's just ego, like oh, there's saying something that I don't like or I don't agree with it or whatever. But yeah, I think that's a great conversation for any parents listening to have with your

young children. Yeah, following your gut It is so important, especially with situations like the ones we're just talking about right where it's not illegal, it's not illicit, but it is something that is having an effect and an impact on that child or that adult. You know, this can

happen in adult situations as well. One really helpful listener, Tatiana, wrote in saying some of the early warning signs of psychosis are a worrisome drop in grades or job performance, trouble thinking clearly, suspiciousness or uneasiness with others, a decline in self care or personal hygiene, spending a lot more time alone than usual, and strong inappropriate emotions or having

no feelings at all. And I think that's a really important thing to point out as well, because that age they said, like twenty seven right around there, that's kind of when some mental illnesses will present themselves to people. So thanks to everyone who wrote in about that. So I thought this was so important to highlight and really paying attention to those little things. And if someone says I'm uncomfortable, like listening to them and seeing what needs

to what steps need to be taken. So okay, so who's our first guest? Okay, our first guest. It's our only guest. I forgot that I'm not on a TV show right now. Our guest today is a friend of mine, a good friend of mine, and she's an Olympic gold medalist and she's a skier. But before I introduced her, I really want to mention her philanthropy. She has a foundation called a Lindsay Vaughan Foundation, which empowers underserved girls with camps, scholarships and more. So please make sure you

are aware of that and check it out. She wrote a great book which everyone should read. It's called Rise. Okay, please welcome Lindsay von h Then she is Miss America. I was hoping that I was going to interrupt you your ski day today. Where are you in Orlando? Oh? Yeah,

you know, I have a dilemma. Actually, I'm glad you brought up Florida because for my new tour, I was just on the phone with my agents this morning and they were going over routing for the fall dates that were going to announce later, and Florida was on the list. And I said, guys, I don't know about Florida anymore. And they're like, well, do you really want to punish the people in Florida like you have people you every time you go, you go to like six stops of Florida.

I'm like, no, I don't. I don't want to punish the people of Florida. They're being punished enough. But I feel like as a statement, I just have to say fuck off. Like when is enough enough? Like all of this legislation, Like I feel like DeSantis needs to know. Certain people aren't going to come. I'm sure they don't care about me. But if more people do it, But then there's the argument that you're affecting revenue, you're affecting

people's jobs, you're affecting people's lifestyle. So I don't really know what the right answer is. If anybody listening has feelings on this, please DM me. Actually DM lindsay she'll she'll go through them first and then she'll read that to me. What are you doing in Orlando? I'm speaking, you know, apparently some people want my advice for some reason.

I don't know. I believe it. You're a champion. We were just watching your night race at I'll say the streef, the streef in clothes, okay, kids by Kispuel fuel, Yes, Kidspuel the strife. Yes, good job guys. Yeah, and this video is of you skiing the world's hardest ski run. You were not only the first woman to do it, but you also did it in the dark, just to make it more insane. This video is crazy. I'll put a link to it in the show notes. It's a

hard one. Honestly, I've not run into one American that has gotten it right so far. But it's okay. The effort was there. I appreciate you well. It's also a hard line to ski. It's not even a line. I don't even know what the fuck you would call what you do, but it is so hardcore. It's so bad us. I mean all my ski buddies from Whistler who are real ski you know, like they know how to ski and they are just like you. When that video came out, we must have watched it like fifteen times. If you

haven't seen it, she did it with Red Bull. You can watch it on Lindsay's Instagram, which you should be following her anyway, because you put out great content. I saw you powder skiing the other day and I wanted to ask you, how do you because if you spent your life training you know, downhill and slom and all the stuff that you do, do you spend a lot of time in powder before you retire. Oh no, I never powder skied because I was so worried that I

would hurt myself. And some of the other athletes would go powder skiing, like if our race was canceled because of so much No, you know, definitely I would say some of the girls would go, like people that are from California that grew up skiing powder, But I didn't grow up skiing powder. I'm from Minnesota. There's not one powder day in the entire season. It's mostly man man and just cool as hell. So I just I love skiing, you know, and it's powder is a lot easier on

my knees. And while it's not something that you know, I've grown up with, I just I love it and it's fun and it's the most exciting thing that I can do outside of racing. Yeah, powder skiing is really fucking fun. And you know what's so fun about it, or so funny about it is that when you learn how to ski technically, as Lindsay can speak to way more than I can. But from what little I've gleaned, everything you learn about regular skiing goes out the window.

When you ski powder, you know, you're not at an air goal, you're not turning, you're bouncing like a bunny rabbit through the snow and just like hopping. Like yeah, it's like leaning back. It's the exact opposite that any instructor would ever teach you. It's all just leaned back and ride the wave. It's like surfing. It's pretty funny because to your point, is the exact opposite of what you've been told, what you've been taught, and just throw

it all out the window. Yeah. Yeah, Well you've been through a lot and you've been injured a lot, and I want to talk a little bit. I know you. Lindsey wrote a great book about her whole life, her autobiography, and in it you talk a lot about your recoveries from from many different accidents, and I want to know obviously you're mentally tough. You couldn't survive all of this and continue to go back out there, especially what you just skied in Kitspuel, Like why why would you do that?

And you said, I mean I think you said you had like your surgery ready to go in case you did wipe out and hurt yourself. Is that true? Yeah, I mean I'm getting my knee replaced, so I figured this was a perfect time to do it, because if I crash and I need surgery, I'm getting it anyways, so I don't mind risking it. But I've had my fair share of surgeries. I mean, you've purt your knee, you know, you know the deal. But I don't think it's ever impacted my passion for ski racing or first

skiing in general. I just love the mountain. I just wish it had been a little bit easier on my body. But I don't have any regrets. You know, despite the fact that I limp around most of the time, I

still wouldn't change anything. Well, let's talk about the mindset that allows you to do that, because you work out really hard, so I know your body's been beaten up, but you still have a significant amount of strength left and determination in order to keep all of that going, which I think is really vital for I think all women, you know what I mean, with like our physicality. It's like you get an injury and you can be so

down on yourself. First of all, it's depressing and you're immobile, and then you're taking pills and you're you know, you're trying to recuperate and all of that is like a real negative downer on you. So to be able to pick yourself back up that from that, not once but repeatedly is very admirable. And to keep going. You know, I know a lot of people who get into an accident and they don't want to ever do that thing again.

And it's like, oh, I want to do that thing right away again because I don't want to be scared of it. Yeah, exactly. I mean I think to your point, a lot of people can get down and I got very down. I mean I got really depressed when I was injured. I missed the Olympics. I was injured back to back acls, which took me out for almost two years in a row. And it's really hard to find anything positive, you know, when you especially when you repeatedly get injured, like what am I doing? You know? Why

am I doing this? And it's hard to find the motivation. But I think for me, it always goes back to passion, you know why. I love ski racing and I've always have and that's why I kept doing it and kept coming back. But it doesn't make their recovery any easier. You know, it's always with three habits, always two steps forward, one step back, and sometimes one step forward two steps back.

You know, it's a very monotonous, long, slow grind, and I just have learned through repetition that you just have to stick to it and keep keep going, you know, keep putting one foot in the front in front of the other, and that's the only thing you can do, honestly. And your transition since you retired has been You're still really involved with the US ski team. You're still really

involved in skiing. You're skiing with people all the time in Utah, Veil or you know, all over the place, I guess, And so tell me it talked to me a little bit about that transition for you, because I know, as an athlete or I don't know, I can imagine how difficult it must be to say goodbye to that part of your life. But in a way you've kind of extended it in a way that we haven't seen many people do publicly. Yeah, I mean, I definitely felt like when I retired, a part of me died. You know.

It was something where I knew I could never go back and I've been doing it my entire life. I've been skiing since I was two and a half years old. And after I retired, I woke up and what I love to do every day was suddenly gone, and I had to really figure out, Okay, what is it about ski racing that I loved? I love being on the mountain. So it took me about a year and a half, but I got back out there and I relearned my passion for the sport as a whole, and I enjoyed

skiing with my family, with my friends. I've gone to places now that I've been many times before, but I've never actually skied. I've been to Korshevelle. I've raced there many, many, many times, but I've never been anywhere other than the race trail. So I got to go back and explore the mountain and you know, find my passion again. And I think, you know, for me, I don't like sitting still downhill. I always had adrenaline and that was really

hard to replace. But I've found ways to challenge myself and you know, push myself now in business and just keep again, like waking up every day with a new challenge. And that's been exciting. It's you know, I feel like there's so many opportunities and I'm excited for the future, to be honest, yeah, I know. I like watching what

you've been doing in the last couple of years. And we've known each other for a long time actually, and it feels like you have really found your groove and like all of these opportunities, your philanthropy, your foundation, and all of the business oportunities that you have cultivated for yourself is a great model I think for a lot of younger athletes who are probably looking going, oh, she made this like so seamless, you know, well, it definitely

wasn't seamless. I mean, I can't tell you how hard it was. You know, as a ski racer, we don't we don't make money. There's no money in ski racing. So I had to really work hard to make a business for myself. And my dad always made me aware when I was younger that if I wanted to be successful, I had to be more than an athlete, and so I always took at that approach. I always want the extra mile. I always did all the interviews, you know,

I was really careful with my sponsorships, what partnerships. I chose always thinking long term, and I was actually made fun of. You know, a lot of people were like, why are you spending so much time with this, You know, you're distracted from your racing, And I said, no, I can do both. I can win races, I can have my own business. I can be successful on multiple levels

at the same time. And I think, you know, just believing in myself and not listening to anyone else was was the best thing that I could do, because I wouldn't be anywhere if I'd listened to every single person that said I wouldn't do anything, or couldn't be anything, or you know, couldn't multitask. Women are great multitaskers. I think I know the fucking tell me about it. I mean, honestly, like,

women are so much better. When I was at the doctors this morning, and I would ask him one question and then he just stopped everything he was doing to answer the question. And I looked at him and I wanted to say, keep keep keep going, like don't we don't have to do separate things, like you can work and talk, can't you at the same time, do like get in together? I mean, women are just like you know, you're eating a hard boiled egg, feeding your dog, getting

on a plane. Like, we're doing a million things at once, and it's it's so crazy to me that they cannot talk and think at the same time. They can't even fathom what we do. It's pretty fine. Oh No, I know your mom was a big influence on you. I know you posted something today about her and her determination and how she inspired you and showed you what determination looked like. So talk to me a little bit about that.

I mean, I think my mom impacted me in more ways than I even really truly understand now, and I think now that she's passed away, it's been a few months, and you know, I still always reflect on what she showed me. My mom had a stroke when she gave birth to me, and she wasn't able to do physically the things with me that I would have loved to do with her, like ski She couldn't ride a bike. The only thing she really could do what she loved was swimming, which I'm ironically horrible at I think like

a rock. But you know, my mom always tried and she failed, but she always tried. She would try to ride a bike and I would watch her fall over and over and over again, but she always got back up, and she always tried, and she always had a smile, and she always was positive. And even when you know, she was in her hospital bed and she couldn't move her arms or legs, she was positive and she said, you know, today is another great day. And it got

harder and harder, but she never lost that perspective. And I felt like when I was injured, I was lucky to have the opportunity to try again. You know, my mom didn't have that opportunity because of her stroke. So I think throughout my career it's always given me a different sense of gratefulness that I think, you know, sometimes we lose sight of. I'm lucky to follow my passion every single day. I'm lucky that I'm walking, and I'm you know, while I hate running, I could run if

I wanted to. It could always be worse, and you know, we just have to be positive. And that's always what my mom taught me. And I'm very grateful for her influence. And again, well I didn't really fully understand it when I was growing up. I certainly understood it now, and I wish I'd had a little more time with her to be able to share more things with her. Yeah, and I think you continue to understand it's a longer

where without our moms. You know, when my mom passed away, I certainly was too young to even understand and the impact. I remember be talking in this interview about somebody asking me why I'm so strong, and I remember talking because I saw the way my mother and my dad's dynamic

was and I didn't like that. And that is just so diminishing to my mother, because my mother sacrificed so much, you know, to be our mother to not you know, she didn't get to live and pursue her dreams the way that I'm able to live and pursue my dreams. The reason I'm able to do that is because of my mother. And so I remember I was reading this

book recently. It's called The Seven Deadly Sins. We're having this author on She's awesome, and it just talks about how we don't give our mothers enough credit for even just the time that they grew up and the time that they raised us in it was so prohibitive for them. Yet here are people that are able to like live out their dreams and go after what they want because our mothers were available to give us the allowance and the freedom to do that, and if they hadn't sacrificed

what they had. And I don't think that's even just beginning to sink in for me. But I do feel like we talk a lot about, you know, people who've passed on on the show, and you know, I'm not sure how spirittual you are, but I know that you're

open minded. And I feel like my relationship with my mother since she died is stronger than it was when we were together on this earth, And there are so many moments where I just feel her presence so much guiding me and steering me, like in this very sagacious, worldly way, which she was not like when I was growing up. But that's exactly who she was, according to

my brothers and sisters. I just never had the patience or the time to find that out about my mother, you know, because by the time she had me, she was older. So I have to say, like, the idea that relationships can even strengthen beyond them being here on earth, I totally believe to be true, and I hope you feel that too and are open to those signs and signals and like, you know, the stillness sometimes when you

feel another person's presence is really just so powerful. Yeah, and my mom actually lost her mom when she was young as well, and when she was in the hospital, she said, I want you after I'm gone, to talk to me as if I'm there, and I will be there and I will listen, just like my mom was there listening to me. And it gave me a lot of comfort. And you know, I, when I ever I want to call her, I just I just talked to her and she's there. Oh yeah, yeah, it's so sweet.

I believe that our moms are there. Hopefully they're hanging out and your mom is my mom something, you know, hopefully. Yeah, listening to the podcast right now, bla bla crying. Okay, anyway, thank you for sharing, Thank you for being candid. I feel like we just had this moment we did. We

were last time we saw each other. We were on the Kelly Clarkson Show or no, was it Kelly with Wolfgang Fuck And we were talking about her book and she started crying, and then of course I started crying because it's contagious, and so now we're just crying whenever we see each other. Okay, So anyway, we're going to take some callers, we're going to call in and we're gonna give them some advice and we've created this episode

to suit things that you would have experience with. Yes, and we'll take a break and grab some clean X and be right back and we're back. Are we ready to continue? We're doing okay? Oh yeah, okay, okay, great. Well, our first question comes from Rachel and Denver, and she obviously, somehow a month before we talked about getting you on the show, knew that you were going to come on. She manifested it. And so she says, thank you in

advance for reading my letter. I'm hoping Lindsay Vonn makes an appearance on the podcast, so this question is written to both Chelsea and Lindsay. Dear Chelsea and Lindsay. I'm a thirty three year old single female living in the Denver area of Colorado with my dog Hide. My main hobbies are mountain biking and skiing, but I love staying active in general. A year ago, I ended a toxic

long term relationship. Even though it was a crazy past year, I was actually able to achieve one of my life goals, which was buying a second house and turning both of my houses into Airbnb's. It's been incredible to make the leap and finally do what I've been dreaming of. Owning and running these two businesses while still having my full time job. Has allowed me to start saving for my second life goal, which is to take a mini retirement before I'm forty so I can travel the world mountain

biking and skiing. This leads me right. I love that. This leads me to my first question, which is what are your tips for being a single, solo female traveler. I want to be able to make new friends and ski and mountain bike wherever I travel too. In particular, how can I make friends with guys who like these activities without looking like I'm interested in them. My second question is do you have any recommendations on a good ski jacket and bib Combo. I've had my same ski

outfit since college and it's starting to fall apart. I took Chelsea's advice and got some heated gloves this season. They've been life changing, so I'm curious what ski apparel brands you like best. I want to look good a really warm well out there, Rachel. Okay, Well, let me answer that last part first, because Lindsay sent me her fucking suit, which is called core right by it. It's by Head, but Lindsay designed it. This is the best ski suit I have ever had. It's two pieces, but

it has it. Is it gortex or is it something stronger than gortex? Because I think I think it's something similar but stronger. Yeah, because I have gortex suits and they're not like this, and I love arc terics, that's what I usually wear. This is better than arc terics. This not only keeps the cold the wet out, it keeps the wind out. It's somehow fucking windproof this suit. And Whistler has very strange weather patterns, so there's a lot of really like Arctic blasts and it gets really cold.

Most people don't like to ski and that I love that, but this keeps me warm and the scoot. I mean this suit, Lindsay. Everyone stopped me. I've never worn a suit so many days in a row, and then I wore this suit. I know, I actually noticed that. I'm like, Wow, she doesn't stop worrying it. She must like it because you normally change like every single day, which I do too, so I get it. I appreciate the support. That was like a great that was a great ad. Just it's

just the best suit. And I'm not full of shit. I love it so much, like I you literally wouldn't wear it if you didn't like, yes, you do know that. And I'll just all the details, even around the knees like that little rouche ing and then like the bottom coughs, everything, the pockets, everything is perfect on this jacket. And when you ski, like you know, if you're protecting the back of your helmet, which I learned like how to keep you know, you always want to trap heat when it's

really cold. This suit is just like it's almost like a NASA suit. That's how I felt like. I just felt tougher. So everybody who anyone who's listening that wants to ski, yeah, please look into her. Go fine. Does it come in different colors or is that one color? Yeah? I think it's a it's in like forest green and baby blue and yellow and black. Oh great, Oh perfect,

that's nice. So I'll have to sign need some more color so you can rotate instead of just having the green every single day, although green's my favorite color, So I do think you look great at that. Yeah, that's a pretty color. And let me know how that knee surgery goes. Also, because I'm interested in possibly replacing my knees at some point both of them. Yes you should. I mean, I know a lot of people that have had it, and they've all raved about it. So I

am very excited. I'm always limited with what I can do physically because of my knee, and I'm excited to hopefully not have that in the future. Plus, you're so good at recovering from surgeries, like this is going to be a breeze from you. I can do my own rehab. Yeah. Okay, So the first part of that woman's question, Yeah, so the first part, does she get into groups and meet guys without her thinking they're into them? I don't. Well, that's a separate issue. The first issue. First of all,

you should join Strata if you haven't. If you're not on Strata, because that's a great bike riding community where you can compare speeds, meet people, talk to people who are in the area that you're going to. If you don't want to go on these adventures by yourself, there's

always cycling groups, you know, in my Orca. I know, there's tons of cycling groups that you can join as a single person and find people that are also going to be single, so that you're never really alone traveling because I think as a female it is more important to always surround yourself with some people that are going to be there, you know, whether they're friends or not. It's just better not to be alone as a woman in some parts of the world, like the United States.

So I would definitely do that joint strati if you're not already on that. And all of these activities you're talking about, whether it's skiing or whether it's biking, you could always find these groups too. Like you know, there's there's always like a social aspect for skiing. There's also like Importio Chili, there's you know, groups that come down. There's also singles women's week. You know, there's most ski resorts have you know, either a singles week or a

women's only week. You know, there's a ton of groups that you can travel with and meet up with, so you're not by yourself, but you're with people that are equally excited to do what you want to do. Yeah, So that's the easy part. So get your ski suit, go on your trips, join all these clubs, and then come back with a husband or pent. Excellent. Well, our next question comes from Miranda, and she's going to be

joining us here on the zoom. She's twenty eight. Dear Chelsea, I'm a female golfer and constantly on the golf course men make sexist comments toward me and my female friends. I usually just laugh off their quote unquote jokes, but it bothers me so much, to the point where it negatively affects my game and my desire to get on the course. I've asked a couple of women in my life for advice about this, but there are never any

concrete ideas. I feel like Chelsea would have good tips on how I can put these men in their place or not let it affect me as much as it does. It happens almost every round that we get paired with older men. I absolutely love golf, but this aspect of it fills me with such anxiety that I wonder if continuing to play is even worth it. Miranda, Hi, Miranda, Hello, how's it going good. Our special guest is Lindsay Vaughan, so you have her today to give you advice as well.

How are you good? How are you good? I normally cheer for Team Canada that I can make an exception today, I think you'll have to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're all the same anyway, you're right, You're right. Well, lindsay, do you want to start this one? Because I feel like you probably had a lot of experience with this kind of thing. Yeah, I definitely have. I honestly, I enjoy it. I use it to my advantage and I love also

self deprecation. So you know, whatever guys throw at me, I usually make some self deprecating comment back, or you know, I hit him with I kind of flip it around on them, or you know, I don't know. I just find that the more I use it as like a positive, I always perform better. Or when I was King, when people made fun of me, especially men, I mean, I have been made fun of for literally everything, and I'm still being made fun of, which is kind of insane.

Like I got comments because I was wearing a tight one piece suit the other day and someone that I've known for a long time made a comment about how tight my suit was, and I was like, you know what, the guy's just jealous. You know, he's you know, you know they're jealous of what I have. And again I don't take it personally, which is obviously easier said than done. But however, you can flip it, whether it's in your mind or it's a comment back to them, the better

and you know, you get use it to your advantage. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I like that. I like the idea of using it to fuel you. I mean, listen, if you're talking to me, obviously I'm just gonna go off on that guy and they're never gonna say another thing to me. Again, I knew that was coming. I can't give you the language to do that, but I mean, you just give a dish up what they're dishing up right back at them. Because men can't handle what they

say to women. They can't handle it. They're sensitive and they're insecure. Insecure. You wouldn't been making fun of somebody unless you were insecure, you know what I mean, especially when you haven't done anything to deserve that you're golfing.

I know, I feel like by me not saying anything, it almost compromises my comfort just to almost protect theirs, which which I hate, and the annoying thing is it normally happens when like I normally only golf with one friend, and when you only book a tea time for two people, they always pair you with two other people, and it's always two older men that are saying stuff to us the entire time. So it's basically four hours of this.

Sometimes they're great, and sometimes the groups are horrible, and like they say stuff to us right when we start, and then it just puts me in a shitty mood for the whole day. But yeah, you're right. Also, the question is like why golf? I feel like there could be a better sport. No, let's deconstruct this even more playing golf. That's a good point. I took it up during COVID. You know what you get outside, You have some drinks, riding in a car. It's very fun and

I find it relaxing. Yeah, it sounds like you need to make two more friends though to do it. Yeah, you're not. Your day isn't ruined every day by these two idiots. So A get some other friends, rope them into golfing. Actually, A find a different sport. B. If you're gonna stick to golfing, rope some other friends in. So you don't have to deal with two guys you don't know. Yeah, I have done that. And see, make sure you give it back to them, you know what I mean. They will cower as soon as you level

it up. Men understand that the dynamic is shift. As long as you're not saying anything, they're gonna keep going in on you. It's like a bully. And as soon as you turn around and say, hey, like this guy said to me the other day, these guys invited me, helly skiing? I said, no, my knee's really blown, like my knee was too swollen. I go, my knee hurts. He goes, oh, your knee hurts, like, oh yeah, And I don't want to be seen skiing like you see.

That's good. That was over. That conversation ended and he never came back around. If I hadn't done that, he would have continued on and on and on. But it's good to just kind of get some stuff in your arsenal that you can throw back at them. And with men, it's really not that difficult, Like you don't have to be that prepared for what they're talking about. You know, Yeah, you're very right. They're always the stupidest jokes too. They're

not funny at all, are all terrible. It's never it's like, if you're gonna make a joke too, to make it a little bit funny. Entertaining something though, it's always like a guy puts the ball not very far and he says to his friend like, oh, you hit that one with your purse so stupid. Yeah, exactly, you can come up with some good, good lines in return. Yeah, I

can come up with something better than that. But its just I feel like it always throws me off guard every time, which is so strange because I should be used to it by now. Well, then you have to get more prepared. You have to go in there more prepared with the mission. Like today, I'm going to give it back. I'm going to serve it right back up to them, and just think about every woman that you are helping by you using your voice, because the next time they run into a woman like you, they're going

to be much less likely to harass her. So if you need that as an extra motivation, use it. That's a good point. And to your point, they're going to say the same jokes every time, so you're not going to have to come up with that many like clapbacks. Right, yeah, next time, Oh it looks like you hit that with your purse, you can say, well, it looks like you

hit that with one of your balls. There's lots of old man bald jokes that you can make, or you know, intellect jokes, or the fact that we're in the year twenty twenty four, is it? Yeah, next year that I've been thinking it was twenty twenty four for like two years already. I don't know what I'm smoking, Well, we all know what i'm smoking. Also, try smoking pot while you're at the golf course. You won't give a shit about anything that's true about what they're saying. You'll be

really focused on your game. Yeah. Yeah, Normally the drinking comes into play and it makes it a little easier, but it's just more annoying than anything. It's just irritating that people are still saying things like this. Yeah, but definitely don't let anyone decide like how you're going to spend your time. You're not going to knock golf because

guys are there. You're gonna make sure that you're going to golf, you know what I mean That you're going to be fine when guys are around, right, as long as I don't pick another sport before then, well yeah, I mean try volleyball or something that seems key sports are Okay, I got a couple of those onlock. But you know, good for summer. It's good for summer. Oh yeah, okay, good, yeah, awesome. Well, Miranda, please let us know what kind of come back to

come up with and how it goes next time. All right? Well, can I say one thing before la Chelsea and Katherine. I thought of you guys the other day because me and my friends were on our way to a ski trip and my friend decided she would eat her breakfast in the car, and it consisted of hard boiled eggs, and right before I turned around, I saw her about to open the container, and I prevented it from happening. But I could not believe she was going to eat them in the car. I could not believe that the

privacy of her car of car. It was our car. I was, my boyfriend was driving, I was in the front. Let's catch Lindsay up on this, so she's aware of Lindsay. It was revealed to me late last year, in twenty twenty three, that Katherine travels regularly on planes with a zip block bag of hard boiled eggs that have been peeled and then and eats them because there they were a good source of protein. I said, well, it is true. However, they do smell like hagg eggs smell no feet. Yeah,

it smells like ass. But I think, you know, maybe maybe eat them before you get on the plane because they are a good source of protein. But like, spare your seat made when you're closed vehicle. I made her eat them in the parking while she was standing in the parking lot eating them, because I mean, that's a fair, that's fair. Some peanut butter or something like a peanut butter stick, like, that's better. That's not offensive to anyone.

Everyone loves peanut butter. Almonds don't smell except the kids that are allergic to peanut butter. On planes, Yeah, there's many options. I flew home from from somewhere yesterday and they put down a thing of those almonds, and I'm just like, those are the most unappealing almonds I've ever seen. Like I was just like what I was, just like I just looked at them. I'm like I don't even want one, you know, like almonds when they're hot on

a plane are good. When they don't do that and they just throw some mix together, I'm like, no, no, no, back the funk ups anyway, So grab your and grab your peanut butter, don't grab your eggs. Head to the golf course and stand up for yourself. Yes, or I do grab my eggs and no one will go near me. My love to your friend. I'm sure you would. You guys get along well. Awesome, Thanks so much for calling him, Miranda. Take care. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why anyone golfs anyway.

I find golfing to be so boring. It seems I can confirm it's very boring. Oh right, exactly. You know what I've been watching is that Full Swing documentary docuseries. Do you know about this on Netflix? Oh? Yeah, it's actually makes golf someone interesting. Yes, I was gonna say the same thing because I was like, oh, this is something I know nothing about. Let me watch a couple of episodes, and it's a lot about Jordan's speeth and they have a couple of players that are like on

the up and up. Yeah, Jordan's great. I mean, I love Jordan. He's under arm or guy, and I've known him for a long time. There's some I mean, there's some good people, and I think you just don't see their personalities when they're playing, which is why I think others words are more engaging. But I think that this is showing actually a good side of golf. So good on them, and I'll break point. The Tennis one breakpoint.

I've seen a couple episodes of that. And then the Formula one also, I haven't seen that yet because that's I'm less interested in Formula one than I am in golf, but I'm going to get to it because that's another sport where I'm not paying attention and I don't know what to be really good. Yeah, I think I thought you would love Formula one. It's like skiing. It's speed, it's like adrenaline. Yeah, but there's a lot of mechanics. It's very mechanical, actually not really well the way they

talk about cars and the pit. I like the attitude and the strategy and the winning championship vibe. I love that. You know what It is also great about full swing is it's great to see the ebb and flow of a career because you're never at your height all the time. There's highs and there's lows, and it's always like the underdog that comes in, you know, and wins when you

least expect it. And the people that have been revered or celebrate to the most always end up not forever, but they always dip and they have their troubles too, So it's never like just some static road where it's

just an ascent, you know what I mean. It's honestly really cool because it's kind of like every athlete has their own little mini documentary and to your point of ebbs and flows, no career in any sport, I don't care who you are, is always at the top, and I think it humanizes athletes and shows you how hard it is to be consistently at the top. I mean again, no one's at the top forever, but to be able to come back every time you go down is really hard.

So I love these little shows. I mean again, they're like mini documentaries for every athlete, and it gives every athlete a lot more credit because honestly, most people don't quite understand the difficulty. Yeah, and it's not you know, there's a lot of similarities. You know, in my business, there are dips, and there are valleys, and there are struggles, and it is exactly how you behave in those moments

that make you a champion. You know, it's how you pick yourself back up and how you succeed again after you've fallen or you've failed or what you deem as failure or you haven't placed. It's very inspiring to watch these kinds of shows because it's just it's really about it's a commentary on life and you know, competitiveness, and I mean, there aren't a lot of industries or businesses that you don't have some aspect of competitiveness in there.

Absolutely not until totally agree. Well, our next question comes from Lana, and this is a bit of a relationship question. I'm twenty four and I've been with my boyfriend for three and a half years. This summer, we'll be moving in together for the first time in a new city with new jobs. Within the next year or so, I expect to be engaged to him. Our dynamic has always been the same. I'm very affectionate, both physically and verbally. I've been told it's like I don't leave the honeymoon phase.

And he's always kind, caring, supporting me emotionally, showing up for me, helping me whenever I ask, and taking me out on nice dates. He just doesn't express to me verbally how he feels. He'll tell me he loves me when I say goodbye or when I prompt it, but usually no sweet words come unprompted. I'm not one hundred percent sure what's triggering this now, but recently I've been feeling insecure about how we display our love to each

other and how it feels disproportionate to me. The perfect partner would be able to show their love through all love languages because they want to gift giving verbal affection, physical affection, acts of service are all things I provide when I truly and deeply love someone without having to think about it. Is this an unrealistic view to expect the same. I've talked to him about this, and he says my feelings are valid, that he's always felt I have more affection toward him than he has for me.

This hurt to hear, but he assures me that he loves me and is in love with me. He just doesn't feel affection for anyone as deeply as I do. He told me that he used to feel very deeply growing up, but that changed going through painful heartbreaks and dealing with a close loss as a young adult. Is it wrong for me to find this outlook sad and to want more from him in terms of verbal and physical affection even though he checks all the other boxes.

I'm torn because I know I can find many men who will say sweet things to me, but they don't actually care. Is it just an insecurity on my part, needing to know how he truly feels because of the next steps will be taking soon? Lana Hi laa hi, Hi? How are you? I'm doing you and you are twenty four?

You said right, yes, I am okay. So the only thing that struck me in your letter if you hadn't said this part, which was he used to be affectionate with other people and then he got his heartbroken, which is the reason he's giving you for not having as much affection as you. Is kind of like, oh, so he has the capability, but he's chosen to shut down

rather than open up. So that doesn't make a lot of sense because if he really felt like you were the one and you guys are supposed to be together, I would imagine that that would be broast open again, you don't really we don't really have control over who we fall over. That aside, it does sound like you're expecting from him what you're giving out, and that's not

a fair thing to do in a relationship. You can't expect the partner to give you what you want to give, or that your partner is going to be great at all. Four love languages, Like, that's just not realistic at all. If I can interject, there are five love languages, and the one that you left out, Lana was quality time, which is the thing that he is really giving you, and that maybe the way he expresses his love languages.

Started interrupt. No, I'm glad you did. I mean, I had no idea there were five because I haven't read that fucking book. I've only heard about it NonStop for the last ten years. That's the thing is I think everybody hears like the Instagram snippets of it. Oh, I'm

figuring the four agreements that got it. But yeah, you know the thing about the love languages is it's about finding out what each person's actually is and expressing love to them through that, Like maybe yours is more heavily These verbal little sweet things that he might say and his maybe quality time. So it's just a mismatch and figuring out how to encourage him to give you what you need and you to give him what he needs. Okay,

is it wrong to like specifically ask for that? Like That's what I've been doing in the past few weeks because I wrote in this email after we had like a little bit of not an argument, but a discussion, and then I kind of circled back to him later after I kind of decompressed, and I was kind of saying, like, growing up, I didn't get verbal affection or physical affection for my parents, and just thinking about living my whole

life not getting that is like really sad. So I've been just asking for it, like, hey, like when you're done, can you come here and like give me a cuddle or something cuddle me. I don't know if that's not romantic or if that's like being needy. It's communicating what you need from your partner, and I think that's great and what if he's not able to deliver it though? Right?

And there have been times recently where he has been so stressed out with being on the job market and everything where he has been like, I'm not really in the mood to be really affectionate right now. I'll spend time with you and we'll have dinner together, but I'm not going to be as loving as you want me to be right now. And I think as long as

that's communicated, I'm okay with that. But it is still kind of hard to be like, well, what if what if there is a perfect person where he would act this way towards Well, first of all, there's no perfect person, Like there's no one that's going to do all the love languages, and that's perfect. But at the same time, if you're communicating what you need to him and he's not able to give that to you, you're young. You can't spend the rest of your life feeling like you

need something else. So I think if there's that hole, and I felt it before myself, if you're not if you have needs that aren't being met and that's just the character of the person that you're with it, then it's just a mismatch, you know. And again, you're really young. It's fine to move on and start over, but if you live a hole and as not being filled, that's never going to get filled. You're never going to change someone. If they can't do what you're you're needing them to do,

then it's just not going to work. Yeah, Like I want to say, I am a little bit like I think your boyfriend and I have been in relationships with people who have been very needy of affection and time and like lots of cuddling and kissing, and I can give only so much. Like it's not a reflection of how I feel about them, it's a reflection of like, I'm very comfortable in my own space and in my own skin, and when I'm needed like that. You know, if I wanted to be needed like that, I would

have become a mother, Like I don't. I don't like when I feel needed, so I can kind of relate to you know, it's just a different set of importance around you, like what I value. I also don't like gifts, Like I don't care if I ever get a gift in the world, and it doesn't matter to me. Those things don't matter. So I'm about like I like time spet. That's how I spend time with my friends, my family, everyone I love. Is about quality time. So I think,

you know, there's two sides of this argument. I think you are really young, twenty four years old. I really think you probably are going to want some more experiences in your life, like as you. I know that's probably not how you're feeling right now, but it's really the truth of the matter. From three women who are older than you, You're gonna want a little bit more experience. It's like she's not getting what she needs, so she has to ask what she needs. Also, you have to

respect that this person isn't built like you. You don't have the same brain, you don't have the same likes, dislikes, all of that. So I think it's somewhere in the middle. You know, you have to kind of figure out, like what's make or break? How often do you need a hug? And if you do really need that all the time, then you should find someone who's going to give it to you. Right, And back to the point where I said, he was saying that he used to be like really

loving in relationships. That was also back in high school. So I don't know if that's like a fair comparison, because he was saying, Oh, I was getting all this advice from girls to text my girlfriend I love you every day and good night, gorgeous, and he obviously figured out that's not what you're supposed to do. So I don't know if it's really like trauma why he's closed off,

or it's just him growing up. But I do think it would be good for him to kind of go to a therapist and explore that, because I don't know if he's really explored that. She meant that he also had a loss of someone close to him as well. Yeah, I mean he could, that could be it. I mean, but you know, is he going to go to therapy? Is he open to that? Like? Have you discussed that?

I have discussed that he thinks that he is generally okay and he's like the strong one for all the other people in his life, and that he would be open to therapy if something bad happened or something traumatic happened. But I'm of the belief that anyone could use therapy at all times. So I don't know if you can really convince someone of going to therapy without them feeling they need to. No, and there's no point, like, there's

no point in forcing somebody to go to therapy. It has to be their idea, otherwise they're not going to absorb anything that they're going there for. Right. I almost thought about, you know, now that we're getting super serious, I am going to be moving to a whole different state with him. We've been together for four years and so now it's like finally becoming real. Like if I do this move with him, next step in a few

years is maybe getting engaged. And I was thinking, well, maybe I should say, like, if I'm going to get married to you, I want you to be open to therapy. But I don't know if that's a fair ultimatum. I think that's fair. I mean, we live in twenty twenty three or sometimes twenty twenty four. You know, have you tried golfing? He actually used to be on the golf team. Oh okay, well he's tried it. We just had a

golfer call in. So there's some similarities here. Well not very many actually, but I just thought golfing was something that I should bring up again. As far as the therapy goes, maybe it's you two going together. Maybe there's

something there. Maybe it's not just like you have to go. Yeah, it's good to get a third person involved in this, because I don't want to qualify you as needy because you're saying what you want, which is good, but you might be coming across as needy and that might be rubbing him the wrong way, and then you're creating like

a chasm. So it's like if he could modify his behavior a little bit and you could modify yours and meet in the middle, which would be like what would happen in therapy, ideally as somebody saying, Okay, this is you got to compromise. Then I feel like you would have more of a like workable dynamic instead of you feeling ignored or slighted. You know, I feel like that might be a good option for you to bring up. Yeah, especially since you're moving, that's a perfect excuse. We're moving

to a new state. We've never lived here before. There's gonna be lots of pressure, there's gonna be lots of opportunity. I want to stay grounded, and I would love to have like a way for us to just make sure we're always ahead of our problems. You know, therapy is great when you're going through something, but it's even better when you have the tools before you go through that. So hang it your hat on that and make it couch it in and then when you get in there,

you can get into these issues. That's actually really you're smart, Chelse. Yeah, I think so too. Right in this moment, I was like, Wow, why don't you think of that earlier? Brilliant? Great, Yeah, problem solved. Awesome, Well, Lana, let us know how it goes. Let us know how the move goes as well. Yeah,

we'll do. I really like your idea, Chelsea, because we're also going to be living together for the first time, so that's also yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't want to screw this up, you want to succeed blah blah blah blah. Let's go to therapy, right for sure. I like that idea. Well, thanks so much for your suggestion. Yeah, yeah, absolutely awesome. Well, letting hawk goes. Okay, take care of Lata, good luck. Oh,

she's a baby. I know I wanted to go break up with him, like, fucking it's your twenty four you need to find a new boyfriend. I wanted to be like we all felt so needy at twenty four, Like, I know, I know, I married two bad Oh shit, I always forget you were married. It's so weird. You know, we don't need to talk about it. But you know, I always want to say whenever anyone in their twenties ask me for advice, I'm like, whatever, you just don't

get married. Yeah, exactly, I mean twenty four year so needy. I used to I had a boyfriend. I remember who I was talking to over this weekend actually because he was texting me, and I used to beg him like I would be like, I wanted to sleep at his house every night. He lived up the street from me in Santa Monica, and I would go over there every night. And I remember once he was like, Hey, do you have to sleep over every single night? And I was like, yeah,

I'm your girlfriend obviously. You know, now, as I'm sitting here as a forty eight year old woman, I'm like, oh, how annoying you know, to not be able to go, Oh, sure you need space, let me I will sleep over a few nights a week. That if you know, when somebody asks you for space, you have to fucking respect that and give them double like, let let them have their space. So yeah, I think there's a there's a neediness that comes in your twenties. You really want this

fairy tale that you think is going to happen. There is no fairy tale. It's like going to the Eiffel Tower. I went with my boyfriend and when I was twenty one to Paris, and I just had this vision of like what our trip was going to be like. And he was British and I was still American and I was twenty one, he was thirty four. And we went to London and we stayed in a hotel room and the bathroom was inside the bedroom. There was no separate bathroom, and I was like, this is not how Yeah. Yeah.

We didn't speak the entire trip to Paris. There were pictures of me alone at the Eiffel Tower and him alone at the Eiffel Tower, and the Louver and every other thing that you saw, and the Chaste Laison because Princess di had just died there, and the Plaza Athnit just us not speaking because I was so disappointed in this fantasy that I had created in my mind that had never shown proof of life, you know what I mean. It's just a yeah, there's no I mean, we just

were not as fantastical. When we're older, we get it, Yeah, just more real. We've been disappointed enough. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well it's like a quick break and we'll get back to wrap up. And we're back with Lindsey, Vonn and Catherine to wrap up today's episode, which was good. This was a great episode. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, good advice. Lindsay gave good advice. Lindsay, you look fucking beautiful, by the way, ridiculous. I was just sitting there looking at you, going, wow,

you're looking real good. Yeah. Yeah, this, this lovely hotel is really making me glow over here. All Orlando hotels are beautiful, so pretty well, Lindsay, is there any advice you'd like from Chelsea? Yeah? Do you want any skiing advice for me? Lindsay? Yes? How do you ski so damn while? Chelsea in your bikini? I've always wanted how do you like not freeze your tits off? Like That's what I want to know, because that I can't even handle being in my ski clothes, let alone like basically naked.

But that's not my question. That was just something I'm curious about. But my actual is how do you because you love skiing and obviously I love skiing, but you work so hard, how do you manage both things? Like? How do you manage getting time to do what you love, and how do you manage being a boss. I just I'm like, listen, if I don't get to ski for a good solid two months a year, then I'm not

worth anything the rest of the year. So I will work all summer long, I'll tour and I'll do that stuff, and then I have to have my time to ski because it's just so important for me. It's my only real passion besides what I do and reading books and stuff, like, I love skiing. You know, the way you talk about it is the way I feel about it. I always want to be on the mountain. I always want to get up, and I mean my friends call it like they're just like, you're so ridiculous. Like I'm outside my

door waiting for them to come get me. Well before we go to the and I've got my outfit on, like I've got everything reading, my gloves, my skis, and my phone, and I'm just sitting there waiting at the ski lift. Like at the you know, we walk to the little run and I'm just like an eager beaver, and they're like, you're just so excited. I'm like, yeah, I'd like to go out at eight thirty and get like three or four runs before anyone else comes out,

and then I like to ski with my friends. But I feel like we talked about this earlier or the other episode, you know. I think for when you're in the public eye and the way that we both are, there's so much attention on you, and your life is so much about you, and you're so self involved that it's it's so necessary to actually have other interests that

don't require it being about you. So for you, it would probably be something other than skiing to do that doesn't remind you of the main event in your life. And I always make sure that I take myself out of my comfort zone and I'm trying different things so that I remain normal, like a human being that's constantly growing and evolving and not just spinning around in this little hubris that is our lives. Yeah, okay, that's a good point. I mean, I played tennis. I love tennis.

It's what about golf? Have you thought about golfing? I think you should take up golf. That feels like the missing hole, so many puns in that, so many How do you also manage to change the subject? How do you also manage being away from your dogs. Well, I mean that's just out of good parenting. It's better that they're not with me in Whistler because they like to be at home in LA where they can go in and out of the house. They just prefer that, and I took them to Whistler and they're just too old

for that. So the next round of dogs I get, I will make sure they're younger and they're more adept, and then I will bring them to Whistler. But I'm just trying not to torture them because last time I brought them they were like, what is snow? I'm pretty sure they're from Mexico because everything is pointing to that. They only understand my bell and they like hot, warm weather, so I think that they're Yeah, I think they're from

South America. Any one of these mountain dogs that like just wants to live in the snow maybe needs like a I need a part time dog for the winter, and then I need a dog for summer. That's what I need to do to split my time up. Thank you, Lindsay for taking the time to do this. I really appreciate it. You know, I love you, and I hope you have a great rest of your day in Orlando. I think it's going to really be balls to the wall. I mean, well, maybe I was hit a Disneyland will

I'm at it. Yeah, nothing better than an adult going to Disneyland with no children exactly creepy at all. Well, thank you, I love you and I appreciate it you having me on. Yeah, thank you so much. We'll speak soon, Lindsey, Bye bye, and don't forget everybody. My new special Revolution is now streaming on Netflix and it's badass. And then I'm doing a tour, a little Big Bitch tour. Go to Chelsea Hamma dot com for tickets. I've added some new dates. I added a date in Monticello, New York.

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