Hi, Catherine, it's Thursday. Hi Chelsea, It's Thursday and I'm in Los Angeles.
I'm so happy to have you here.
Finally. I know Doug.
Has a mountain man here too. Now. I told Felix, I was like, listen, you have to take into the mountains every morning. So he picks him lap and he takes him to Los Montaigne's. But it's so sad the dirt. Like he sends me videos of Doug and it's just dirt, white ray dirt. He went from Whistler where it's verdant and green and beautiful.
Snowy and yeah, well it wasn't snowy.
Somewhere, but like you know, lakes and now there's pictures. He sends me a video yesterday. I'm like, is that a coyote? He's like, I'm like, is Doug. What does Doug do when he see nothing?
That thing? He looks at him.
I'm like, oh my god. So yeah, I'm like he's living a different lifestyle for sure.
You know what, there are new smells here. He's you know, having some variety to Yeah, love variety.
I mean, I guess we do love variety. I added a new show to my West Hampton show. The first one sold out, so I added a show August twenty first. Now and twenty second, I will be in West Hampton performing, and then I'm doing the I'm headlining the Rochester Fringe Festival that's in September, and I am doing Napa Valley and that's on October third. I'm doing Napa Valley some big winery, so that's going to be beautiful.
Yes, And of course we had so much fun at your Vegas show.
Vega, we gambled everyone.
We didn't.
You didn't win in the minute, but you won when you went to the slots.
Yeah.
I went to the slots and I like put in a twenty dollars bill and I won one hundred and fifteen dollars.
I can see you winning at the slots, cap.
Yeah, I love a penny slot, like lady.
Yeah.
I would never waste my time at the slots because that's just like I need more banks. But this weekend I started betting bigger. I started betting like four or five hundred dollars around yeah.
And it worked right hand.
And when it was working, so I left with three hundred dollars more than I started.
I mean, you were brave betting, you were like thrown up.
Yeah, but I also supplied again. I supplied everybody with their gambling money and they all lost.
Well no, not everybody lost. No.
I mean the bottom line is I never see that money again. But if I walk away with it, it's like I've given away money and I'm walking away with more than I started within.
That's a win.
Yeah, it's a win for everybody. Everyone's happy.
And then also like people are gambling because there's just like you.
Know, there's a fun energy around gambling.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a really good time. It's really good.
I go to the same table every time after the show. Doug was there. Doug was gambling because he's my meg king. Well he's your lucky charm, he's my king. Yeah, No, I win without him. He is definitely not my lucky charm. He's definitely not. I'm staying with my friend Cat right now. Yeah, and she has a little o balloompa dog. Yeah. I don't know what kind it is, but it's a small one is something like not fluffy short hair.
Okay, I don't know what that type is, but.
It's not it's not of interest to me, but Doug. It's so funny when they play because Doug is obviously like fourteen times the size of her, and he goes to pick her up like with his teeth. Oh no, And I'm like, yeah, that isn't a chew toy. No, like, and he goes and gets it, like puts his mouth around her, and I'm like no, no, and then he looks at us like, oh, I'm sorry. Am I not supposed to pick her up like this? It's like, no, you're not her mother.
That's not a toy.
And yeah, I know, so poor little Luna, she's a little Luna bear.
Yeah.
She's like, I'm like, he's rough stuff.
Thank god. He's not a rapist though.
You know.
I mean, yeah, not a humper.
We don't want to try to hump.
His friend Sally in Canada. But that was you know that, that was okay because she's a friend of mine and that dog is big and could defend herself. Yeah, you know what I mean. And she was like, fuck you, Doug.
But he's like fix and everything, right, He just no, I have.
A dog that's not fixed.
I mean, come on, hello, that's just one more thing I can't.
Afford to deal with. Right, they just do it. Sometimes. My friend Kat and.
I, Well, Cat's a good cook, so she's been cooking for me because my house, of course is still.
Not No, of course not, of course, I house is.
Still not ready. Can you fucking believe it? I scheduled my entire European tour and my entire European travels to come home to a house home, and it's still not ready. Oh, speaking of which, ICE, we have a lot of groups to donate to that I am that I aggregated, so let's add those, like different organizations you can donate to
for families being affected by ICE. You could donate to attorneys that are defending these people, or you can donate to organizations that are helping feed them and are helping them legal fees, legal fees, and also to help them financially while they're unable to go to work because they're being stopped every single fucking day so that they don't get separated from their families. So it's a good place. There's like five or six donation spots that I found out that are really good to donate to.
So let's do that.
Okay, If you want to donate to families who are affected by ice and immigration issues. Here are a few places that you can donate. So one place you can support is the Immigrant Defender's Law Center and we'll put a link in the bio. They're a next generation social justice law firm that defends immigrant communities against injustices. Jail Support LA. It's a grassroots collective dedicated to supporting anti repression work in Los Angeles and they provide bill money for protesters in downtown.
La Unjon del.
Barrio is an organization that defends Mexican and Latin American community. They have been organizing a lot of protests and teach people how to do patrols in the event of a raid. CHARLA is the Coalition for Human Immigration Rights and empowers immigrants to push policies that promote freedom of movement, full
human rights, vigorous civic action, and strengthens democracy. When Vesino is an in person responder training being held on July twenty fifth, and it's in Moore Park, California, So if you want to attend that, we'll put a link in the bio. Eight PHO five UNDOCU fund provides funds and support for immigrants Mixed Techo supports organizes and empowers the indigenous migrant communities in California's Central Coast, and these raids,
illegal and immigration raids continue to happen. So any support that you guys can provide will be put to good use.
Okay, great, and we have a great guest today, an old friend of mine who is in a new show. And the new show is called Hunting Wives on Netflix. It's not to be confused with hunting husbands or hunting four husbands. It's hunting wives and figure that one out. Please welcome Malin Ackerman. Hi, honey, Hi, how you doing. I was just talking about my bunyan surgery. I'm getting at July fifth, so much fun, so I know, I can't wait.
I'm excited.
I'm actually excited. I'm excited for you a month off and just lying around my house, you know what I mean.
Unfortunately, it won't even be a month like you'll be up and if you want till, you can be up. But otherwise, just milk it.
I milked it for as long as I could, even though I could walk after a week.
And you could walk? Wow?
Did you do physical therapy after?
Yeah?
I did. I did with a with a trainer. And a pee, you know what a physical therapist a pt. But I was in a boot. Obviously I wasn't walking without a boot. Not you're in a boot for a while. But I think we went to Vegas two weeks after my surgery because we'd already booked it, and I just got one of those one of those little roly things where you put your knee on it, and you like, oh my god, what Vegas was intended for?
That in Disney World and when people roll around in Disney World, Yeah, all you're missing is a drumstick, like one of those giant turkey drumsticks. Okay, mallin. First of all, when did I see you last? I saw you at Guy's house, probably.
Right Guy's house. Yeah, it was probably three am in the morning, dancing on the glasser. Yeah, he felt great.
I think I was looking for my purse for about four hours at that party.
Did you ever find it?
I did?
It was amazing.
It's the story of my life. Some strange person just came up to me, someone how I had never met. Because I was going around the party asking people, I'm like, do you have my assistants info? Because I might need to get my driver and I'm alone, Like I came with a bunch of people, but everybody had left and I was still there. And then someone just walked right up to me like some sort of heavenly angel instead have you been looking for your purse? And I was like, oh my god, who are you?
And do you know who that person is? You have know I that it was just a lovely human being that's Anaean in the world.
We like that.
It was a fun party.
It was It's always fun, right, although last year was a little bit too my hectic, and I remember talking to guy. I'm like, don't let anybody into that party, like I'm not.
It gets nuts, but you kind of get lost, like you get your little pockets of like I'm always on the dance so I love to dance. So my husband and I are the same, and so we're always on the dance flore until our feet can't take it anymore, and you feel like you find your little pockast and all of a sudden you turn around. You're like, oh, I'm doing the shuffle with Miles Teller and then you turn around and and there's Chelsea falling over the table and having the flast.
Exactly.
That's exactly the kind of impression I want to leave people with. I remember the last time we were hanging out, this was many, many years ago. You had just had your kid. That's how long ago we've spent. It's since we spent tive years ago. Yeah, so you were I think I think you got divorced soon after that, and then you met your husband.
Soon after that. My like the real life one. The first one was like a trial run. And then number two I met him when my son was three, and so he's been in our life since then, which is awesome. Nine years crazy.
I think that's crazy that you have a baby with someone and then you've become a unexpectedly become a single mother.
That was a little bit of a surprise. You know, life is you can never plan it, as we all know. I'll try to do it, but it just it was one of those things. And we're good now, like he's in our life and it's and we're friends and all that, but it was just when you have kids, you just never know what that's going to be like, what it's going to feel like. I know that so many people have so many different reactions. Some people are like in the movies where like everything's grand and beautiful, but for
the most part, it's fucking shocking. And you go through a real emotional rollercoaster bringing a human being home and you have to take care of it. So I think for both of us it was just we We just didn't prepare properly, and I think it really affected our relationship. But who does prepare properly?
Like, I mean, it's not like so many people are taking parenting classes before they have a baby, you know, I know, And nine months is not enough time to prepare for that kind of invasion.
No, And I wasn't even we weren't even preparing. I mean, I was just living life the way it normally was. And then a baby was born. Oh my god, geez, this is I got to keep this thing alive and try to keep my relationship sexy. I don't know how do you do that. I haven't no idea, I haven't. I failed at it. But number two is a good is good. And we decided not to have another kid together because I was like, you know, let's just keep it sexy, and we've got a kid already and like,
let's have fun. And when he gets old, he's twelve. Now you know, a few more years and he's out of the house and we're going to travel the world and we're still going to keep it sexy. So I know, you know a little something about that. Because you decided not to have children, you just kept spontaneous, spontaneity part of your life, which is so much fun and I miss it, do you.
Your sister introduced you to your husband, right, Yeah, she did good memory.
She is now married to the guy who she's married to your husband too. She's yeah, we live a polygamous life.
It's very cool, you know, a little sestuous. But her husband is also a brit and so my husband and her husband were at drama school together, so he would come out for like pilot season why when there was isolot season when that existed, And so I met him a couple of times, and then we ended up sitting at Hamburger Mary's beside each other for a dry queen bingo night, and that's where we fell in love, as you do, because we sat beside each other and I just realized at that time, like I'd met him a
few times, but I was finally ready, I guess, and he was just so you know that British charm and wit, and he was funny and kind of cute, and so, I mean, I still didn't think we were going to get married. I just thought we'd have a fun little affair because he's seven years younger than me. Oh oh, I love that. Yeah, it's great. And the nice thing about younger men is that they adore you. He's like, wow, you're my woman, and it feels you feel like a
woman around a younger man. I love it. I'm enjoying this experience.
Yeah, I could see that I've ever dated for somebody that was so much younger than me, more than like a year or so. So I don't know, but I'm assuming I'm going to get around to it because I'm not getting any younger. Like I'm sure I'm going to start dating.
I'll introduce you to a few young boys.
Yeah, I mean, I'd like a little couple of flings, especially with you know, the energy, sexual energy that younger men. I'm more interested in math than having to deal with you know, men my own age and their own issues. Not not naming any names you dm me when I was in Sweden or you were texting me or some one of those things, because that's where you're you're from. You're from Sweden, I am, but I originally I was reading your bio and you also have permanent residency status in Canada, So.
I did that one. I had to give up when I moved out here. I had a permanent because I was there for twenty two years. And when we first moved to Canada, Sweden wouldn't allow dual citizenship. And then when it was finally time for me to move America to America, then I could get dual citizenship. But I was going to America. So it's like, you know what, I don't need a Canadian passport. I've got my Swedish passport. Now I wish I had would have done it, But.
Because I was about to ask you, I'm like, wait, I have a house in Canada and I don't have permanent residence. Yeah I do in Whistler. I go. I love your first ice ski in the wintertime, and I love I love Canadians. You know, they're so civilized, Yeah, so nice, so normal. It's a nice contrast to what we deal with it. But a little bit yeah, yeah, I was curious about learning. I mean, every all my conversations lately are basically about how to naturalize another place.
How are you going to get to become a permanent resident of another place? Back to Sweden. I have like a few Swedish people in my life. And when I was in Stockholm for my most recent I just came from Europe. I was on this European tour. It looked amazing, Thank you, It was amazing, and Stockholm was such a highlight. It was so gorgeous out. We walked probably like fifteen thousand steps that day. We walked and walked and walked and walked, and it was like one of the first
days of you know what felt like summer. You know, it was in May, but it felt like the first and the whole place was pumping. And this was like how it was when we kept like hopping through Europe. We'd land and like the sun would be out and we'd be in Copenhagen or Amsterdam or but Stockholm was such a highlight. And I have a really good girlfriend who lives in Whistler who is Swedish. And then I have another friend that I spent like my twenties with
that was Swedish. And I have to say, Swedish women are so much fucking fun. And I feel like Swedish culture tell me if this is true, Like women don't care about marriage in the same way that American women care about marriage.
No, not at all. The whole thing of Like, I don't know, there's that really weird thing where it's like you have to spend half your yearly salary for the rank, Like there's all these rules around things. Swedish women are kind of like take it early. I think it's like the Viking mentality we grew up on versus you know. I guess America was built on, you know, religion, and so it's a very separate It feels very logical in Sweden.
And I also feel like the women there, for whatever reason, I don't know why or the history of it, but the women in Sweden are the aggressors and they're very independent. It feels very like it always feels like women have always been an equal over there, and so you just
feel empowered, which is really interesting. And I don't know the reason why, but I do feel like women are just strong and takeway they want kind of thing, and I love that about it, you know, and men tend to follow suit and stand in line.
Yeah, I wonder if it does have something to do with the Vikings. I'm gonna have to read a book about that.
I know, go to I should know my own culture really and I wonder if.
It's all scale, like if it's all that area in Scandinavian cultures too, where women, I mean obviously they're like government wise and happy wise, like everybody seems a lot happier in that part of the world, Scandinavia in general.
And when also when you get like a year mattornity leave six months paternity like everything is it works like everything You pay really high taxes in Stockholm, but they go towards the things that you want them to go towards, Like you can go to university for free in Sweden and get a really brilliant education, you know, and that's where our tax money goes to, which I would love to see here, you know. Having a kid here, I'm like, wow, it's expensive because he can't go to all the public schools.
We were lucky to put him in a charter school for the first few years of his life, but now we just switched him over and we're like, wow, it's crazy.
It's crazy that we have to pay for kindergarten. Well, I don't have to for anything, but it's crazy that parents have to pay for fucking kindergarten. I mean, I live in a city that is absolutely ridiculous. Watching that back race and watching people apply to kindergartens and preschools is like, Honestly, when I.
Was pregnant, I had a friend of mine, a friend of mine's mother, who was like, okay, listen, we need a meeting. And I was like okay, and she comes over to my place and she goes, listen, you got to start looking into preschools. You got to start putting yourself. I'm like, my kid isn't even born.
What do you mean.
She's like, oh, it's impossible. I'm gonna introduce you to a woman who's gonna get you in. And I was like, okay. I was really freaked out. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. So this woman comes over and she's like, Okay, I know everybody at every school. I'll help you fill out all the forums. I'll help you. I was like, I feel like I could fill out a form myself. And she goes and it'll cost seven thousand dollars. I just went I'm good. He'll go to
whatever preschool he goes to and it'll be fine. He'll learn how to count to three and it'll be great. But it was just there's this whole gamut here where people scare you into thinking like if they don't get into the right preschool, then you know they're just never going to make it in life, which is nuts. It really is coming from Canada where you're just like, you just go to the schools that you go to.
You know, by the way, Canadian colleges are seven thousand dollars for a whole entire year. So you could either get a coach to get you into kindergarten in America, or you could go to college for seven thousand dollars a year. Your dealer's choice.
Yeah, dealer's choice. What are you going to choose?
I'm into that new Prime Minister of Canada though, Mark Carney. I like his attitude all lost.
Yeah me too.
Speaking of taking what you want, Okay, let's talk about Hunting Wives, because first of all, you are really getting after it in the show.
Did you get to see it?
I saw three episodes. Yes, I watched it while I was getting my roots done yesterday. Back I saw you in full action, having lots of action with a variety of different people, and yeah, I was like, wow, look at you go.
Margot Banks, who is the character that I play as you saw, is probably one of the favorite characters that I've ever played. Talk about like living in her own power right, just like taking whatever she wants. She is master manipulator. She is Lady Macbeth behind the scenes, just with her puppeteering. Super fun to play, you know. All the cast was It's one of those dream scenarios where
everything kind of fell in place. I mean at first when I read the script, I then gave it to my husband and I was like, am I this person? Can I do this?
Like?
Should I do this? Is this crazy? It is nuts? And he read it and he went, oh my god, are you kidding me this? You have to do this. It's literally his fantasy is this whole show? But yeah, she is. She is something to be reckoned with. But the beauty of it, because you only set three episodes, it gets there's so many twists and turns that are coming your way. By the end, you can't even believe where it's taken you. And that's what the fun part is. About it is that.
Yeah, you can see that there's a lot happening, and yeah, that's a lot that's going to happen. Oh, this is exciting.
This is AWESO coming out.
All eight episodes get dropped all at the same time on July twenty first, So you know, okay, corn and sit for eight hours straight and watch this crazy show.
Yeah.
So it's basically let's give a synopsis of the show. It's basically this. Brittany's snow is also in the show, and she basically moves I think from the East coast to East Texas.
Is that right? That's right, small little made uptown in East Texas where Margo Banks and her husband Jed Banks are basically like the queen Bee and the soon to be governor of this little town.
Who's played by Dermot mulrooney.
That's right, dream vote he's Oh my god, he's such a nice suff here into chemistry together. I love that man.
Yeah, he's a great guy. And it's such a great role for you. I like, I love seeing you in a lead role and being this kind of master puppettier. Like I love watching that and I love seeing you shine in that way. So congratulations, thank you.
Yeah, it's so much fun. It really is, like if you like Big Little Eyes and Yellowstone, it's like they have a baby and this is it, you know, So it's it's salacious and fun and sexy and wild. Do you get how do you deal with having sex scenes with different people?
Is that an issue?
Like?
What do you do to prepare for those?
Well, the thing is is that, you know, we have intimacy coordinators nowadays, which is a saving grace. I love it so much because you have this person who comes to you know, if it's me and Brittany having a scene together, she'll talk to us separately and say, all right, what are you guys comfortable with? What do you want to show? What do you not want to show?
What?
Like? What are we doing here? And then we come in together and do rehearsals just like stunt choreography. She actually used to our intimacy coordinator used to be a stunt choreographer, which is awesome and she was the best. And so it's like doing choreography. You get it all settled and then you show your director and they sign off on it. So when you go to set that day, you know exactly what you're doing. There are no surprises,
nobody's doing anything different. We both feel comfortable with what we're doing. And I want to say comfortable. It's still not like whoo, this is going to be great. It's still weird. You know, you're still there with the crew and cameras. It's never what it looks like on screen. Is it's never as intimate as we make it look. But it's very respectful and it's very well organized and directed and taken care of.
So you know.
I once did a movie like I don't remember what it was even called, and I had to kiss this guy and I was like, I can't. I cann't kiss him. I was like, I can't kiss this person. And the director's like, you just have to kiss him on the lips, like it can be short, like it just has to look like you're about like you're about to start making out. I'm like, I don't, I can't do it, like I'm not attracted to him. He's like, I know, but this is not real life. You're acting, and I'm like, which
is why I'm not an actress. I'm like, I can't make out with a man. And the whole time I just wanted him to be yelling cut before he yelled it like the whole time, I was like black. Yeah, I had such a childish reaction to being to be having to act in like a romantic setting where where it wasn't really attracted him. So do you ever have those types of feelings where you're like, I want this to be over.
I think I've suppressed it so far down it's been so long, doing it for so long that you just pull up your bootstraps and go. But no, you know, I gotta be honest, there hasn't been I haven't I've I had one once, I gotta say. And this was in the very beginning of my career, before I even came out to Hollywood, and I had to do a like a kiss with it guy. It was nothing like it wasn't even a makeout thing, but he there was. He was one of those like off camera just wasn't
a nice guy, like wasn't a great guy. So I just didn't like him very much. And not only that, but he decided to eat sidziki, which has tons of garlic in it, right at lunch, right before our scene. So not only did I not like him, he smelt like garlic and I had to kiss him and I was like, oh, everything about it. And that was very early on in my career, so I didn't know how to handle it. But yes, that was one moment where
I was like, no, please, just cold cut. But otherwise it's it's I've had a beautiful experience and most of the people that I've worked with, I've just really enjoyed, and it's been you kind of when you're in that character. You go into it and you feel like that character, and of course once they call cut, you feel silly and awkward and're like, hey, how's your wife? Everything good
at home? Great? It is a very strange thing. And if you're not in the acting world and you don't do it, I can understand people on the outside going wow, how do you do that? But I guess you get used to it. I guess you do it in character.
Well, yeah, I guess right, you would do it in character. But do you feel a sense of like you must feel a sense of responsibility to make the other actor, whether it's a woman or a man or anything in between, do you feel responsible for making the other person feel comfortable?
And I think both both parties, and that's been in my experience ninety nine percent of the time is that both parties, myself and the other party are just super respectful and considerate. And you know, as soon as they call cut it like hey, are you okay? Are you good? You know, I have some scenes with George Ferrier in this in this show, and he plays a nineteen year old boy, but he's in his early twenties and we
have a relationship that's of a sexual nature. And of course everything was treated just as it would with the intimacy Cordy. It was beautiful, it was lovely, respectful. But after every shot, I would be like I felt like a mother. Tim was like, are you okay, yourn you need some water? Do you need some Like can I get you anything?
I'm sorry?
Or are you welcome? I don't know what to say right now, but it was just really to say that, like it's just been a lovely experience, and yes, you I think everyone is super considerate in those situations.
There's a great shot of you pulling up on a jet ski. First of all, your wardrobe is awesome because everybody, yeah, I mean I get to comment on women's bodies, but your body's just ridiculous, and your legs go off for miles and miles and miles, and you should always just be in a bathing suit because you should be showing that body off. Fine, she pulls up on a jet ski on this beach to pick up Brittany, and it's so funny because it's just like, you know, you're on
the hut. Basically, it's like a Baywatch moment. Yeah, totally, it's totally like a Baywatch moment. But yeah, I just like seeing you kind of command a show. It's very nice to see that.
I'm definitely enjoying it, and I have to say, you know, you've earned that. Thank you. I feel like I've earned it too. But I also feel like this character, I love sitting in the power of what it is sometimes to be female and what it is to use that
and weld that power. Not that I would ever use it the way she does, but it's fun to play that because you go, women really have this power, not that it should be used in this way, but wow, is it ever fun to exercise that in a role And it is really just juicy And it was I felt the same about my role in Billions, where she was just this powerful character. And I love women in power like that, whether they're using it for good or bad. It's just fun to play.
It's also fun to examine that because men men can be so powerful with almost no power, you know, like they don't really have any real power necessarily, and they present as they do just because of the nature of society and you know, the way things have shaken out thus far. But women really are the powerful ones, Like,
we have so much inside of us. So whenever there are people that call into the podcast, which you'll experience shortly, like, there's so many women who are unaware of the power that lies within them.
And totally it's our job as.
Women who are more mature and have the wisdom and experience to know that it's so important to inject women with that vibe, you know, to make sure everyone knows
how powerful you are. Like I was with this I was with this young couple of yesterday doing something and we were filming something and they were just so traditional, right, and they were like talking about getting married and they were I was in their apartment in New York City and they were so young, and they were both adorable and sweet and kind of innocent, but they weren't even thirty and she's just I just could tell, like, oh, this.
Girl really wants to marry this guy.
And he wants to marry and they think this is it and you know it probably or may will be, who knows. But also why why is it necessary to you know? Especially I mean, you know that because you've been through, you know, a first marriage. But I want women to know, like life just keeps getting better and better as you get older, and the more wisdom we acquire, the sexier life becomes, and the more like possibilities, and like, don't limit your possibilities for the world.
A hundred and that you know, Chelsea, that's why I love you so much. And what you put out there in the world in your comedy and your voice, you just it shows women that you can. You can be vocal, and you can be out there, and you can be confident, and you can do whatever the fuck you want, like skiing and and be key because we can. But I just think that it is so important for women to understand that our voices can and should be heard. And it's okay, not every I had to go through a
lot of work of I was, I still am. It's still in me a people pleaser, but I realized that people pleasing is actually just a way to control other people. So it's not a really nice thing. It's just I need to control their emotions so that they don't make
me feel a certain way. So instead I had to start learning how to say no and standing up for myself and being okay with the fact that some people might think that I'm a bitch, or some people might think that whatever they want to think, but I have to align myself with what's true to me and how I feel. And the same goes with relationships. Like when I met my husband, I was like, I'm not a finished product yet. You know, I just went through divorce, I just had a kid, Like, I don't really know
who I am right now. So who you're getting right now is not who I'm going to be in ten years from now. So if you want to enter into this as a relationship, cool. It may or may not work, but we can give it our best shot, and that's fun and that's great. Now he happens to be the best partner ever, which I didn't expect. I really thought he was just going to be a little romp in the sack and then he's going back to England. But
it didn't turn out that way. He stayed. But I think it's really important and it's really hard, and it's a really long journey. And I feel like I'm only stepping into myself in my forties, you know, and who I want to be and understanding myself and being confident enough to take those steps to living more authentically to who I am, and whoever doesn't want to be part of that just isn't going to be in my life.
And that's okay, right, And that the stage of your life that you're in when you meet somebody is not a fixed state, Like you're not going to be that way forever. None of us are. We'll always evolving or devolving. Or sometimes you go through a rough patch and you know you're not at your best, and that could happen
at any time in your life. Even when you feel like you've gotten all figured out, then something can like you know, kind of throw you and you're like, oh shit, this isn't me operating on my A plus plus self. But that's okay, Like to give yourself the grace that, Okay, this is a rough patch, I'm going to get through it. Because I've gotten through everything else that has come my way in my life and this is just another something I didn't expect. As you said when we started talking today,
that you can't really plan, you know, your life. So when I see these young people planning their futures and I've got to marry this by this age and i want to have this many kids by this age, I'm like, oh God, throw that all out the window. You can have your kids, and you can have your husband, but like it doesn't have to be at like these little tent poles, like in order an arrangement, And I.
Feel like that sets you up for a disappointment instead of just going, let's see what happens.
Okay, we'll take a break and we'll be right back with Malin Ackerman.
And we're back with Mallin. What's your husband's name, Jack, Jack Darley? Oh yeah, I love British guys, you know. Yeah, Well we'll find you a young one, you know, I know, yes, next up, put the word out.
I like that.
That's usually where I have most of my hookups, is London.
Yeah, because they're super fun and like just a blast, you know.
Yeah.
I'll ask my husband if he has any good, real good ones that are single.
Okay, please do, please do, Catherine, What do we have in store for us?
Well, we can start with an easy one, so Jessica says, Dear Chelsea. I'm a twin sister, and my mom and aunt are also twins. My mom is one of nine and.
Has six sisters.
All that to say, sisterhood is a huge value I hold and has always been a major part of my life due to work, which is a good thing and an opportunity I'm related for. I'm going to be moving to the West Coast from the East Coast, and my big question is about my twin sister. She's had some recent challenges in her life, and I'm so worried about quote abandoning her or feeling like I'm moving on without her across the country. She's also a badass and is
in no way in trouble like where she's reliant on me. However, emotionally and with her.
Self confidence, she's in a rut right now.
I'm wondering if you have any tips and tricks on how you keep in touch with your sisters that are in different time zones than you, and also how to help them grow and navigate the challenges they might be facing while you aren't there physically. Finally, one last question is whether you prioritize certain events to be there in person with them versus those are okay with not being physically there. For kind regards to Jess, well, how many sisters do you have?
Balin, I have two half sisters and one half brother, so and they're all over the place. I mean, we grew up in different countries. They grew up in Sweden, My brother and I grew up in Canada, and I moved out here when I was twenty two, so I've only experienced long distance relationships with my siblings. And if anything, I think you cherish your time together even more when
you do see each other. And I think with all the technology that we have nowadays, I mean, all of my besties are somewhere in Costa Rica, some are in Canada, some are in Sweden. We keep in touch all the time, and when you get together it's like no time is past. I think the people that you're closest to you work it out. It works it self out. And yes, I think you should go and be there for milestones and big events and whatnot. And you know, make time for that.
But it sounds like this woman is saying, you know, her sister's a badass and she's going to figure it out. You can be there from a distance time zone totally. It's just three hours difference. It's not that bad.
I don't feel like any sort of distance is prohibitive to maintaining a relationship with somebody that you care about deeply, especially your sisters. There's texting, there's face time, there's zooms. You can like schedule calls. You can text and say want to hop on the phone, you can FaceTime, you can do all those totally, and just make sure that your presence is known and available, that you're making yourself available.
I think that's the most important thing for any relationship that you care about, is that you're you know when when you hear from your sister, that you're your responsive, that you get back to her in a nice fashion. Not like I hate when this doesn't happen to me and my sisters or siblings, but like, you know, if someone texts you, you should text them back that day.
I'm really good on text. I'm less good on email, you know, like I'm text is more immediate to me, But there are some people who don't text back for fucking four or five days, and I'm like, what what kind of app do you?
Like?
How does that show up on your phone? But I think, especially if you're worried about somebody, you just make sure that your presence is understood for for the other person, and make sure that you're checking in, going you know, hey, what's up, and asking questions that lead somewhere rather than going how are you? How's it going?
Yeah? What it like more specific like what did you do today?
Who were you? You know, did you have a good weekend? Would did you do anything fun?
Like?
I don't know. Just like try to engage in a way that requires a response, so you can kind of measure how your sister is doing rather than just checking in in a kind of banal way.
Yeah, exactly, open ended questions that let her kind of figure it out on her own, but you're there holding the space. I think is really important. Yeah.
Something that's helpful for me too is like having a regular call. So it's like my mom every Friday, we know what time we're talking, and like sometimes it has to move by a day or we skip a week or whatever, but having that.
Time on the calend just so we know, like it. It makes it a lot more regular than.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Yeah, I mean it really depends on your personality type, Like I would never stick to something like that, but I think that's if you're if you are organized in your sisters organize, then that's great.
Yeah, it's nice to have something to look forward to as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
Especially you can also put it on you like I'm moving away, I'm going to miss you, you know, like, don't make it about checking in on her. You make it presented as like I hate being this far away from you, or I need to make sure we have a check in for my sanity.
Yeah. And I don't know if you guys ever did this during COVID, but like you do the zooms where you like happy hour zooms and you bring grab your cocktail and you sit and have happy hour together. You can do that from before. You can do so many things with technology nowadays.
Those are the only kind of zooms I had, Even if the other people on the zooms weren't having happy hour, even if it was a work call, I was drinking. Was like okay, yeah, I'm like everyone's whoom, and that means everyone needs to start drinking.
Well.
Our next question comes from Lucy.
She says, Dear Chelsea, I've recently become close friends with someone, and while our friendship sparked quickly, I'm now questioning if we're truly compatible or if I'm just being a hater. She's fiery, outspoken, and unapologetically flashy, think bold, designer fits and luxury everything. I, on the other hand, lean more toward quiet, luxury and a calmer energy. We share a
meaningful bond. We both grew up in fairly turbulent homes and we've both worked hard to break out of that, so there's a sisterhood there.
But sometimes I find her behavior grating.
There's a subtle superiority vibe that creeps in, and it stirs something competitive in me that I don't love. I pride myself on being grounded and accepting, but this dynamic has me questioning whether I'm being too judgmental or if deep down we're just not besty material long term. So my question is, how do you tell the difference between being incompatible and being insecure? Is it okay to love someone but not like all of them? Respectfully, Lucy.
Yeah, yeah, I mean this is a hard lesson to learn for me, I know, because I want everyone to be like one hundred percent of the things I like. I don't like the negatives, But that doesn't happen in life.
Like everyone's gonna have the thing that greats. You're on your nerves when you spend too much time with somebody or enough time with somebody, and you don't have to like diagnose the relationship to best the best friend that you'll ever have in your life, Like a friendship is give and take the fact that she's so much different than you is a good thing, Like that's exciting, Like that's a good way for you to be less narrow minded.
You know, if we just become friends with people who are like us, then we're not really learning that much and we're not we're actually being very judgmental. So I think it's always a good exercise to be friends with people that kind of take you out of your comfort zone. And then when you are feeling judgmental, something I do is like, why do I feel judgmental?
Right now?
What is it about this behavior that is making me act like this? Because I don't want to be judgmental. I want to be open minded, you know, or if somebody's grating on my nerves, that's usually something about yourself rather than something about the other person, because you shouldn't somebody shouldn't annoy you that much that you're friends with, Like you don't need to spend that much time with them if they're kind of annoying that does that add up to you totally?
Totally?
I yeah, I think it's it's definitely this difficulty right of like, it's a harsh world. Being human, it's very difficult. So I'm I'm super receptive and open to the fact that we have so many different ways of going through life and it's such a layered experience. Yeah, it's obviously insecurity. Is there a little incompatibility in the sense of maybe we don't need to be super close? Is this a loose acquaintance? Do you have these people in your life?
Yeah, definitely, I think so.
Absolutely. I think, you know, I read a book that John Cleese and his therapist wrote. I studying psychology in school. I thought that was gonna be my path and I remember it so vividly because what I loved about it
was in relationships any relationship, romantic or friendship. You get attracted to people that have these you know, you have these sliding doors that are you know, the mosquito net doors right and behind those doors are things about yourself that you haven't shared or that are maybe subconscious or like the DNA and the fiber of who you are,
and the other person has the same thing. And you get attracted to somebody because of the things that are behind those doors, and then when they start to come out, it's because you're meant to share those things and learn from them and grow from them. And growth can be uncomfortable. So this can might be one of those situations where there's stuff that's getting stirred up from behind those doors
for you and it's uncomfortable. But maybe you've met this person's that you have to face those things and look at them. And like Chelsea said, like why am I feeling this way? And what about vocalizing it and saying hey, you know sometimes when you do this it makes me feel like this is the onus is on me right now and I'm just trying to figure myself out. Yeah, but I just wanted to let you know, maybe we could have a conversation about it. Maybe I don't know,
you know, what's in it for you to lose? Really, I did that with my husband when I first met him, and I was like, this is how I'm feeling. These are the things that I'm afraid of, and these I'm going to tell you a few things. And if you leave and walk away because you think that's terrible, then leave and walk away. And I guess I'm going to have to take that. But I need to be honest
now and start speaking from an honest place. So if you're feeling uncomfortable in situations or she does something that feels weird, address it in a diplomatic, beautiful way that opens a conversation.
Maybe what's an example of something that she does that gives you kind of like cringe feelings?
Uh yeah, yeah, I was thinking about this. There's definitely this this social media element to it, all right. Because it was just a physical experience of us hanging out, it's more subdued. But on social media, I think I
just have like this status signaling fatigue. And you know, in this day and of influencers, of course, it's usually more like indirect and they're trying to it's a little more modest, humble, you know whatever, And so I kind of am like, okay, go you for my friend because she's a little more just like direct, like this is how it is. I'm excited about. This also rubs me the wrong way, but I think it's a general fatigue though.
But I will give one example. So they recently got a little a little boat, and in the post, she's steering the boat with big old ring left. Uh but I know, I know she's right handed. You know, I'm like, are you steering that boat with your left hand? Right right? You know, just silly little things like that where it's it's not as so it's a massive deal. It just puts me off a little bit.
I think that's a fair thing to say, Yeah, don't you ball in, and like, yeah, I think that is because that is kind of not true. Is she's presenting something that's you know, and it's very showy. And while you can accept that as a part of her personality that she's showy, like you have to understand that's who she is, but there is something about like presenting something that's not true. But I mean I wouldn't pick that
example because it can be that's pretty like granular. You can say to someone it makes me uncomfortable how showy you can be. You can say that, go that's me, that's me personally. I don't want to prohibit your behavior, but it just doesn't make me feel It makes me feel weird, like it's hard for me to watch a little bit like that. That can come up organically at
some point. But you also don't have to label exactly what type of friend this person is to you, Like when you said like, is this a loose associate or is this my best friend? You are like kind of declaring what something is while it's happening, and then you're like missing the whole moment anyway, And I've been there. I understand what that is. You're like, oh, how much
of this person can I take? And that's up for you to decide, But you and also have more fun within the moment and be like, oh my god, this is fun to hang out with a person. I would never act like this. I have a lot of friends that that I'm like, oh my god, I would never act like that, and I half of my friends think
that about me. So I think that that's like a good reminder, you know what I mean, Because I'm sure there's things that you do that probably maybe rub her the wrong way, or and she's able to look beyond them, or maybe there isn't anything that you do that rubs her the wrong way. But like I would just pick and choose your moments. And also it's an interesting experiment to find out when you get annoyed with someone and
when somebody starts to grate on your nerves. It's very it's like a nice introspective opportunity to find out what it is that is bothering you about that person? What why does this bother me? Like what's underneath that? Yeah?
No, And I appreciate that so much. I I guess that is like ultimately what I'm trying to articulate. I feel like I'm fairly accepting. But this has thrown a space in the works a little bit. But you're You're totally right. And I think as we get older, too, like I'm getting to a phase of life where it's harder to make friends. It's a little more difficult.
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I can hunt fake wild boar if you want, we can go hunting together, you know, with blanks. It's going to be super fun. But I do make a me and Mark arita, so you know, okay, I do think you go and enjoy the flash and the luxury, dip in and dip out as much as you want then and that's it, and then you'll see you over time if you need to shave the fat and you're like, no, not a good friend. Maybe a great friend, but very different, and just limit the time.
Get very acquainted with that mute button on Instagram.
Like there are people I love in real life and I cannot tolerate their social media presence.
And that's okay, it's a different thing.
But it's also like, if someone is also filming the whole time you're with them, you have every right to go, can you please? Like cool it? Like, let's not but we're not, you know, I'm here to spend time with you. Like that's totally justifiable. I don't if somebody's constantly filming you or you know, wanting to film themselves that then
they're not being present at all. So that that is something you can say, and that's not being judgy, that's being wanting real time, Plus, you don't know how many people you're going to meet through this woman. She sounds like very social and she'll probably introduce you to a lot more people who probably feel the same way about her that you do.
So then you have people.
Then you can really start talking about her with some other friends. So you have got to look forward to so many bonuses. Yeah, it sounds like fun, Lucy, just don't put so much pressure on it, Like it's not a romantic relationship, and we shouldn't be putting so much pressure on our relationships. Tess, have fun and clock yourself when you're being judgmental.
Take it in. I appreciate that.
Yeah, all right, thanks Lucy, thank you, take your look.
Bye.
Well.
Our next question comes from stu Uh.
He's thirty two and says Dear Chelsea, straight white male father and lover of the podcast, writing in, obviously.
Dright man is listening to this podcast. We should get a support group for straight men who listened to this podcast, because there's I've only got to be like less than ten.
Right, a celebration for this.
Love it.
So, he says, I've been meaning to reach out for a while now, and I'm glad I finally am my partner.
Hannah was featured in one of your episodes about a year ago.
Everything is amazing between us, and she's not the subject of my plea for advice. I have an almost five year old son with my ex, who I dated on and off for about seven years prior to meeting my current partner.
I left for good about three years ago.
It was a tumultuous relationship between us from the beginning, and with the help of my friends, I was finally able to break the cycle. I had four separate apartments during our various breaks and broke all of the leases to move back in with her, each time into a.
House that I built for her.
Regardless, things are better than ever at the moment moment, but she still needs to be in my life. With lawyers and multiple mediations, we were able to come to a somewhat copasthetic parenting agreement. However, the reality is anything but pleasant. My dilemma is basically, how do I shift my perspective for the next eighteen years to probably the rest of my life of having to deal with this person who's caused me so much trauma and deep, deep pain.
How do I co parent with someone who's unable to communicate rationally, a person who exhibits all the classic narcissistic qualities, we can barely communicate. So the court suggested a parenting app and that's what we rely on.
Currently.
Being face to face is extremely challenging, as she consistently initiates volatle arguments in front of our young son, regardless of what I say or do. I feel that I'm doing the work on myself to be able to move past this and create a future of my dreams with my current partner. But what happens when you're bound to a person like this for the rest of your life?
In a nutshell?
How do I stay sane and create healthy boundaries for myself for the foreseeable future and beyond in a seemingly impossible situation?
Best?
Stu Hi, Stu Hi, Hi, This is our special guest, Malin Ackerman. Hi.
How you doing good?
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you too. You have some co parenting experience, Yeah, My husband and I we were together eleven years. We separated when my son was four months old and only spoke through lauryas it was a similar kind of thing. I understand narcissistic people more than anyone you would know, but it's definitely they are. A narcissist is impossible to negotiate with. It's like negotiating with a terrorist. So there's you're just never going to just don't ever hope that
this person is going to come around to anything. But you can absolutely shape your own life the way you want to. It sounds like you're already on the path for that, where you're taking really good care of yourself and you're doing your own self work and you've got a supportive partner. It sounds like you, guys, can be
a loving home for your son. There's going to be bumps in the road, and you're never going to be able to protect your son from the world or life, or her or whatever she wants to be saying or doing. But as he grows up, my son is now twelve years old, the questions start to come and they see things. They're very smart and they're very bright, and they take things in and they understand what's happening. But unfortunately, I wish I knew about this parenting app where you could
just go on an app and decide everything. That sounds amazing. I think stick to that and have as little amount of contact with her as possible, and just do the kind of drop off and hand off of your son and just be there for him, really and for your partner. Just take care of yourselves. But there's not much you can do when you're dealing with a narcissist. And maybe over time it'll start to dissipate, the anger might start to dissipate, and the you know, ferocity. But it sounds
like you're on the right path at least. I don't know, Chelsea, what do you have to say.
I have some experience with this too, surprisingly, dealing with someone who behaves in that way, who creates tons of chaos and then takes absolutely no accountability for it, and they have children and you know, in my life, and so I totally understand what you're saying. And I think what I would say is there's so much dignity in not getting down with that behavior, Like, there's so much dignity in remaining separate and never bad mouthing that person
and never not to your child anyway. Obviously, you can go off on her all you want to your friends and family, and you need to, you know, but the app is amazing. I didn't know there was something like that, But I think there's so much dignity in not getting into the muck of it and mired in it with your child that once you have like a few years, and I'm not saying that you have, but I think that in it of itself is an honorable thing and an honorable way to react with somebody who's unstable and
narcissistic and creates chaos wherever they go. And it's kind of like you're setting an example for your kid to see what the calm is and where the storm is right And so if you're always reliable and you're always dependable and you're always calm, because a storm can't fight
by itself, it just fizzles out. So as long as you're keep the engagement to the bear bear bear bear minimum, she's gonna find somebody else to argue and fight with, and you know, hopefully that will occupy her time as soon as she like loses the energy that she gets
from you. And I'm sure you've already done most of this, but I would say, like just continuing through it in a dignified way and holding your son's mental health in such a high place like that's more important than anything is to know and exemplify the kind of behavior that you want him to attach to rather than to that behavior, you know, so that there's a contrast and he can see, oh, this person's stable, this person's reliable, this person does what
they say, this person is dependable, and then there's this. So he's going to figure it out because everyone does. But it's definitely not your job to paint the picture for him. It's your job to just show him what the opposite of that looks like.
Yeah, and that's kind of the only thing that's kept me sane in this whole thing, honestly, is just anchoring down and really doing that myself. I thought she would change when I started dating her, and clearly, you know, that was my bad, and I've learned to not and I don't see it happening in the time of the future.
But one of the main kind of issues that we're having at the moment is that obviously he's in a lot of school in summer camps now and everything, and she's kind of been bad mouthing me to all the other parents and the teachers and more or less putting everything on me, which I you know, if she wants to do that, Go ahead, have fun. It's clear when you meet me in person that that is not who
I am. But I just you know, it paints a bad creature of me, and people look at me differently when I come to pick up my son, and you know, they treat me differently, And how should I deal with that? Because that is not fun?
But that's on them. I mean, that's crazy to me that people but will just take one side of the story, you know what I mean? I feel like that, then who are these people? Do really care what they think? Do you really care? That's a great point, like there are two sides to every story, and if they're not willing to hear both sides, then begone with them. You don't need them yet.
But also I would argue they don't even need to hear your side because there's one person's tinting tales and then there's you that's acting normal and going to pick up your son and being polite and pleasant and engaging to whomever you can. You don't have to go and convince them that you're the good guy. They're going to figure it out too. Everybody, the person I'm talking about, everybody knows that this person's off their rocker. Everybody knows.
I didn't have to tell anybody. Most people figured it out on their own. So that's another song and dance that you can just eliminate, Like you don't have to participate in that. All you have to do is be a great dad to your kid. It doesn't matter what these people think of you in the moment. They're all going to figure the same shit out too. And for the other people that want to glom onto the drama of the story, there are people that create drama wherever
they go, and people get tired of it. People don't want to be involved in other people's drama endlessly. It sounds fun in the beginning sometimes, but it doesn't go on like that. So I would say it's the same advice I would give you with regard to dealing with her directly, and like, just act in a dignified way, like you are dignified, you're doing the right thing, and just be consistent about all of your behavior. And then
then it's just the writings on the wall. It's just obvious to everybody, and it doesn't necessarily happen when you want to. I know you want to, like defend yourself, but don't. There's nothing to defend.
It has to crash and burn. In my opinion, that's the only inevidible outcome is that eventually it's just gonna She's gonna do this until you're the many friends left or people obviously see.
It, Toluly, She'll go through a million friends, that's what she'll do. She'll go through a million people.
Narcissists burn their bridges wherever they go, and it just happens. And if you're like Chelsea, saying's best advice just be consistent and be dignified and people will see it over time. That's it.
Yeah, And there's no needs and reason to bad mouth her to anybody, even if you become friends with any of those parents, like all you have to you just have to give the look like I don't want to go there. I'm not interested in participating in that kind of conversation, you know what I mean, be above it because that is respectable behavior. And when people see that, they're like, oh, okay, there's the normal one.
Yeah, and it sets us more a part too exact exactly what you so.
Yeah. So it's kind of like taking that attitude with you in every for the big stuff and the small stuff. You know, you just have to have that attitude. And like it's like every morning you have to meditate for twenty minutes, like I will not react to her today, I will not get involved in this drama today and do that, and before you know it, then that becomes your your your second skin. And I mean, you sound like you have your shit together anyway, and you've done
the hardest stuff is behind you. But I can understand how challenging it would be to think of leading this life. I mean, she's gonna start terrorizing another man at some point anyway, So.
You know, I've been through a few, so let's hope one sticks.
See, Yeah, you go, but thanks for calling in. And we're so excited to have a straight male caller. I can't tell you. It'll happen more for sure up here. Okay, we'll take care, Jerius.
Thank you so much. Bye bye bye. That was sweet.
I know there's so many See there are such good guys out there, and that's sweet. Yeah, And you know those people like that though, that are so crazy. You know, you talk about narcissis and then everything comes up on your phone and it's like a narcissist will do this. A narcissist will do this a narcissist. And somebody said
to me, I was with this guy I dated. I was in Barcelona and when I did this European tour, and he was we were talking about narcissist and we went to dinner before and he's an old ex and he was like, I'm reading this. I was working with a psycholiatrist and he has this philosophy that you know, every child is a narcissist. Every child is a narcissist because they have to learn how to get attention, and they have to smile, and they have to be funny,
or they have to create drama. They have to get attention. And I was like, I don't think that's the right depiction. And I go, not every child is a narciss He goes, no, every person is a narcissist. And I was like, that's not true either. That's just simply not true. And he's like, well, you're a narcissist. And I said, I don't have a problem with you calling me a narcissist because I don't struggle with that identity, Like I'm not worried about me being a narcissist, So you can call me that, and
if you think that that's okay. My opinion of me is more important than anyone else's anyway. But like a narcissist, if you call a narcissist a narcissist, they will argue with you about it until the fucking sun goes down, you know what I mean? And they and and they get they get mired in details that have nothing to do with the actual basis of the argument or the conversation.
They will talk about the color of the sky and disagree with this, and then we'll focus on this, like a Narcissists are so toxic to be around, and they exhaust everyone around them and they will never say they're sorry about any of their behavior.
Yeah, ever, absolutely, they'll justify it till the cows come home. It's incredible and it's sad, I'm telling you. It's like it's like talking to it's like trying to negotiate with terrorists, like it's we're never going to win this fight, so.
Oh yeah, yeah, And the and the only piece that you get is when you stop communicating with that person.
Yeah, well, stop trying to change them, and like stop trying to have those fights. When you start picking no battles, it's like, oh okay.
It's like such a relief.
Yeah.
Then they have to go elsewhere for their drama and you can they can't find it there, So like it's it's just always better. And and you know, obviously, when you share a child with somebody, it's not that easy to just walk away from somebody and not communicate with them. But this parenting app sounds fucking awesome. I'd like to have an app good, Yeah, to handle a lot of my relationships.
Yeah, me too, it would be great. Okay, Well, we'll be right back with Malon Akerman.
How we're back to wrap things up with Malon Ackerman where Okay, we're very excited her show to be used on July twenty first.
Is that the date July twenty first on Netflix?
Yes, it on Netflix. It's called So this is even a better outcome than you've started with. I think ending up on Netflix.
Is I think so? Yeah. I mean I think a lot more people have Netflix, and so it's kind of the og of all the streamers. So it's great. I'm very excited. I'm very excited for the world to see this show. I'm also nervous, and you know, there's lots of feelings around it, but ultimately, I just think that it's a really fun show. I think people are gonna love it. I think it's going to be a big hit. Oh thanks, I hope so so yes, it's called Hunting Wives. Everybody premieres July twenty first on Netflix.
Thank you, Mallin. I hope I see you soon. I'm going to tell you when I'm in La this summer.
Are you?
Are you based in La?
Now? I'm based in La, but of course I'm we're going way with summer. But we go to Europe for the summer. We go to Sweden and England and visit family and stuff like that, so we'll be gone for a bit of it. All right.
Well, we'll figure out a time to hook up at some point.
Yeah, that would be awesome. It's so nice to chat with you.
Congrats on everything.
Thanks any thank you? All right, nice talking to you both.
Okay, my remaining dates for Vegas, there are remaining dates for this year. Summertime time is coming and I will be in Vegas at the Cosmo doing my residency on August thirtieth, and then November one and twenty ninth. November one and November twenty ninth, I will be in Las Vegas at the Cosmo performing Inside Myself at the Chelsea. It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason. Okay, thank you.
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