Surprise surprise; Ravenswood has a couple pretty good episode! Emily's finding they come too late to care and she's right since we only have two more episodes to watch. We discuss the arrival of Jamie in Ravenswood, Springer's reappearance, our good friend Bea, what this show would be like if it wasn't a PLL spin off, Remy's adventures in dreamland and why the entire cast need to switch their footwear. Episode 49 content warnings: violence, death, child death, murder, PTSD Pretty Little Liars s...
Apr 04, 2023•1 hr 6 min•Season 2Ep. 50
Ravenswood continues to increasingly focus on shipping Miranda and Caleb much to our chagrin. Why do that when you have Olivanda right there! We discuss how the existence of PLL makes this romance irritating, Luke being an even worse boyfriend, and creepy children hauntings. We do find some positives in the attack scarecrow, lucid dreaming and getting the boys together to do some magick. Episode 48 content warnings: violence, death, child death, murder, PTSD Pretty Little Liars season theme song...
Mar 21, 2023•1 hr 26 min•Season 2Ep. 49
Ravenswood puts a damper on even Brenton's excitement this week as it steers into teen relationship drama with eye rolling results. We discuss the head scratching turn for Miranda and Caleb, why Olivia would be the better pairing, and our annoyance at everything Luke does . We also discuss the effective scares in episode 3, why Raymond isn't an effective villain, and speculation on why the 4 survived and what the curse actually entails. Episode 47 content warnings: violence, death, child death, ...
Mar 14, 2023•1 hr 12 min•Season 2Ep. 48
Emily's finding herself bored by the new show, but Brenton finds it oddly exciting and compelling. We discuss our different opinions, the move to horror and the dark thematic material and lack of camp to liven up the proceedings. We also discuss the surprising start to episode 2, distance between Rosewood and Ravenswood, staying in a creepy old house way too long, Remy's suspicious dad and Caleb doing detective work without the tech. Episode 46 content warnings: violence, death, child death, mur...
Mar 07, 2023•1 hr 22 min•Season 2Ep. 47
We're back to discuss season 4's Halloween/backdoor pilot, which sees the show try to get us bought in on Ravenswood with a very thin premise. We discuss the introduction of Miranda and why Hannah telling Caleb to help her doesn't work. We also discuss Fitz's changing allegiance and the reappearance of Ali. We'll be spending the next few weeks in Ravenswood, here's hoping we find something to like! Episode 45 content warnings: grooming, stalking, violence Pretty Little Liars season theme song "S...
Feb 28, 2023•1 hr 2 min•Season 2Ep. 46
It's finally happened: the dark turn that we never thought would happen has officially come true. We discuss the big reveal of Fitz as A (or an A or some other type of schemer), how long he's been doing this and why, and the implications this has on the rest of the series. That's not the only big reveal that happens this week as we also dig into Mrs Grunwald dropping a dump truck full of lore and the competing (or allied?) red coats running around. But before we even get to all of that (!) we ru...
Feb 07, 2023•1 hr 37 min•Season 2Ep. 45
Turns out we were right all along to hate Wren (and also Fitz but that's a given). We discuss his evil turn, where his loyalties lie and try to decipher what kind of doctor he actually is. We also dig into Fitz being a terrible partner/father, Malcolm's paternity, Jenna and Shauna's mysterious actions, Emily's swimming future and Mona being back in her vacation home at Radley. Episode 43 content warnings: mental health, bullying, stalking, violence Pretty Little Liars season theme song "Secret o...
Jan 31, 2023•1 hr 20 min•Season 2Ep. 44
It's a light week for everyone in Rosewood except for the Fields family. We discuss Pam placing her burdens on Emily, the different expectations between for teen girls vs boys, and the car in the room. We also dig into Ashley's jail time and Hanna's bad decisions, Caleb and Toby teaming up, Mike's big plot events, the introduction of Nigel and Mona's potential motivations for turning herself in. Episode 42 content warnings: bullying, stalking, violence Pretty Little Liars season theme song "Secr...
Jan 24, 2023•1 hr 5 min
Hanna finds herself in the possession of potentially incriminating evidence and needs help but instead all of the friends decide it's time to ignore her instead. We discuss why you can't leave Hanna to accomplish things alone, why we'd have an anxiety attack if were one of the group and the Marin's future legal troubles. We also discuss the introduction of Mrs Grunwald, chaotic Spencer, Toby's dud of a plotline, Emily's right to flirt, Shauna moving to Rosewood, Aria being slut shamed and the re...
Jan 17, 2023•1 hr 21 min•Season 2Ep. 41
In this week's lesson on parenting, Pam fucks around and finds out and then doubles down on all her worst behaviors. We discuss the Field's family makeup, their social position within Rosewood, the problem of singling out the one non-white family and our excitement nonetheless to see where this goes. Elsewhere we get Holbrook's exciting theory board (!!!), competent police work and the introduction of Tanner, Melissa spilling both a lot and not a lot of information, Spoby's return to sleuthing a...
Jan 10, 2023•1 hr 21 min•Season 2Ep. 41
New year new season! We start season 4 with lots of revealed information but we're really more excited for our new bird friend, Tippi. We discuss what Tippi's presence means for our protagonists and what could be behind Jessica DeLaurentis' move back to Rosewood. We also discuss Toby's history (and creepy flashback), Wilden ending up dead!, Ashley doing mysterious things and Paige and Emily's doomed relationship. Episode 39 content warnings: sexual assault, suicide, mental health, drug use, bull...
Jan 03, 2023•1 hr 26 min•Season 2Ep. 40
It's the season 3 finale and we have so much to talk about! All of the active parties in Rosewood descend on the lodge for a night of mayhem, fire and planes? We discuss all the big revelations including Toby being alive (and pretty eyes), the confirmation of another team, Shauna and Jenna's relationship, the potential identity for Red Coat, and Ali's likelihood of actually being alive. We round things out with a longer theory corner and predictions for Season 4. Episode 38 content warnings: bul...
Dec 27, 2022•1 hr 15 min•Season 2Ep. 39
Spencer finds herself with a bit of luck and assistance at Radley as we get a heavy focus on her unraveling the strange mysteries of Mona's time there. She finds hidden messages, friendly nurses, creepy (and familiar) doctors and even gets a visit from an old friend. We also discuss the new mobile A lair(!!), Wilden being alive, Ezria's rocky time, Pastor Ted's annoying behavior and Shauna and Emily's weird connection. Episode 37 content warnings: mental health, bullying, stalking, violence Pret...
Dec 20, 2022•1 hr 27 min•Season 2Ep. 38
In a show full of exciting moments, this episode has the absolute highpoint. We talk about our love of Ashley, her taking matters into her own hands and the fun possibilities of her new problem. We also discuss the other exciting events such as Spencer's sauna attack, new information on Melissa, Emily following a mysterious carpenter, the Shauna and Paige relationship and new ammo for the Aria is A truthers. We also hit on the stinker plotline and Fitz's new fatherhood. Episode 36 content warnin...
Dec 13, 2022•1 hr 20 min•Season 2Ep. 37
Spencer is doing fantastic, she's coping so well and isn't freaking out in the slightest bit at all. In fact, she's never been better. We discuss her cross county trip to go beat up Mona, her gravestone vandalism, and her innovative learning technique called "stripping." We also discuss Caleb and Hannah's adventures into absentee parents and stealing from churches, what Wren seemingly does with his free time, Emily's sideways trip into hypnotherapy, and Jason riding the Tower of Terror and survi...
Dec 06, 2022•1 hr 22 min•Season 2Ep. 36
Spencer knows! We excitedly jump into the big shakeups in the Spoby ship and discuss when Spencer figured out Toby's secret and what his potential background/motivations are. We also dive into Meredith's wild turn, a new horrible team up, the new Ali visitation and red coat sightings, Wilden looking skeevier than ever, the introduction of a mysterious "beach hottie" and Fitz learning about his son in the best way possible. Episode 34 content warnings: bullying, stalking, violence, grooming, ment...
Nov 29, 2022•1 hr 34 min•Season 2Ep. 35
Our problematic fave returns to high school and we couldn't be more excited to welcome her back. We revel in the disparate reactions to Mona's return, the audience having more knowledge on the A team than the characters, and guessing at other people's involvement. We also discuss Aria's no good very bad day, Byron getting more and more suspicious, Paige reckoning with the being part of PLL and a turning point for Meredith. We also get reflective on theory crafting and being a fan theorist. Episo...
Nov 22, 2022•1 hr 38 min•Season 2Ep. 34
We're back with an exciting couple of episodes and Brenton is still trying to cope with the revelations. We discuss shifting character motivations, Nate's giant red flags and unadvised trips to a cabin, poor poor Paige, Caleb buying a gun, having fun in computer lab, Aria getting way too involved with Maggie and the expansion of the A Team. Episode 32 content warnings: bullying, stalking, violence Pretty Little Liars season theme song "Secret of Tiki Island by Kevin MacLeod. Brenton Theory corne...
Nov 15, 2022•1 hr 31 min•Season 2Ep. 33
We're back with an exciting couple of episodes and Brenton is still trying to cope with the revelations. We discuss shifting character motivations, Nate's giant red flags and unadvised trips to a cabin, poor poor Paige, Caleb buying a gun, having fun in computer lab, Aria getting way too involved with Maggie and the expansion of the A Team. Episode 31 content warnings: bullying, stalking, violence, homophobia Pretty Little Liars season theme song "Secret of Tiki Island by Kevin MacLeod. Brenton ...
Nov 08, 2022•1 hr 23 min•Season 2Ep. 32
Welcome to the worst party of the year! We visit the Kahn's ritzy cabin in the woods for a secret underground party and really wish we hadn't. We do however find that Aria is extremely cool under pressure. We also discuss Cece and his strange motives, a new Fitzgerald, the Emily/Maya/Nate/Paige train wreck, intense games of Truth, Wren only dating/getting rejected by high schoolers, and the strange connections Noel. Episode 30 content warnings: bullying, stalking, violence, grooming Pretty Littl...
Oct 25, 2022•1 hr 20 min•Season 2Ep. 31
Ezra's mom comes to town and we couldn't be more excited by the reveal. We talk through Ezra's past & his familial baggage, Nate's sinister turns, Mona's secret passcode and the goings on at Radley, Spencer's hierarchy of importance, the Paige romance, continued Spoby frustrations & Jason's dark turn. Episode 29 content warnings: mental health, bullying, stalking Pretty Little Liars season theme song "Secret of Tiki Island by Kevin MacLeod. Brenton Theory corner version 2 song "Mystery S...
Oct 18, 2022•1 hr 27 min•Season 2Ep. 30
While we've grown to love Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattison we're the lone podcast that dares to ask, what if they were swapped with Troian and Keegan? Who wouldn't want Toby to be shiny? Rosewood is still plenty busy though so we drag our attentions back to the fumblings of Dark Lucas, how bad all the Liars are at lying, Jenna's eyesight celebrations, Ezria's public outings and money troubles, the return of Holden, the character issues with Paige, Jason & Spencer as half sibling detective...
Sep 13, 2022•1 hr 39 min•Season 2Ep. 29
Good lord are the Hastings dysfunctional. We dive deep into Melissa's trail of lies, Veronica refusing to talk, and what the hell is with burning things in their fireplace? Rosewood is still plenty busy so we also discuss the divorced moms dating tribulations, the dissolution of Haleb and our frustration at Hannah not talking, Mona turning over a new leaf, finding out Jenna can see & the unbridled angst of Dark Lucas. Episode 27 content warnings: mental health, bullying, stalking, death Pret...
Sep 06, 2022•1 hr 25 min•Season 2Ep. 28
Season 3 opens with an exciting time jump and we are ready to start investigating new mysteries in Rosewood. We discuss Emily's fragile mental health, graveyard robberies, Fitz's insistence on anniversary dates, Mona's uneven mental health depiction, Garrett's jailbird scheming, Meredith returning and Byron just being the absolute worst. We also discuss some background on the season 2 finale and how this show is related to Lost. If you'd like us to either watch or avoid Lost in the future (after...
Aug 30, 2022•1 hr 27 min•Season 2Ep. 27
It's finally here: we both now know who the first "A" is. What did we think of the reveal? Turns out our reactions our split so we dedicate a good portion of the episode running through our individual thoughts. Emily also gives us her historical context with the show and how she feels about the reveal. Of course there's plenty of other machinations going on in Rosewood so we discuss Jenna's new moves, Toby's secretive motives and Hannah's no good very bad day. Episode 25 content warnings: bullyi...
Aug 23, 2022•1 hr 11 min•Season 2Ep. 26
Welcome to a bonus & stand-alone episode of Brenton's Theory Corner where Brenton makes his final guess for who he thinks A is before he watches the finale. He runs down the timeline of Alison's last day, covers all the mysterious parties and plot beats that could play a factor and then lays all his theories out on the table. Content warnings: death, murder, grooming, sexual assault, bullying, stalking Follow us on bluesky @dead-ends.bsky.social Send your podcast or show questions to our inb...
Aug 20, 2022•22 min•Season 2Ep. 25
Before next week's finale, Pretty Little Liars decided it's time for everyone to start being just a little bit more evil. Jenna's hiding a huge secret and burning bridges, Melissa shows her real venom and we even get a visit from the original menace. Even outside of that things are still popping off in Rosewood as we discuss Byron's bad plans, Toby acting very strangely (and wearing sweaters), Mona being out of the loop, Ren's gross advances, and the world's creepiest child who lives in a doll h...
Aug 16, 2022•1 hr 33 min•Season 2Ep. 24
We're feeling triumphant this week as we get a big reveal for some of our characters. Once Brenton stops celebrating his win we dig into the tremendous pairs of Truth Up Day, Mona tempting Emily to the dark side, everybody trying to rattle Caleb and failing miserably, the horrible conclusion to the Kate photo drama, Maya's suspicious town mingling and weird HR professionals. Pretty Little Liars season theme song "Secret of Tiki Island by Kevin MacLeod. Follow us on bluesky @dead-ends.bsky.social...
Aug 09, 2022•1 hr 35 min•Season 2Ep. 23
We're feeling triumphant this week as we get a big reveal for some of our characters. Once Brenton stops celebrating his win we dig into the tremendous pairs of Truth Up Day, Mona tempting Emily to the dark side, everybody trying to rattle Caleb and failing miserably, the horrible conclusion to the Kate photo drama, Maya's suspicious town mingling and weird HR professionals. Episode 22 content warnings: revenge porn, sexual assault, victim blaming, sexism, grooming, bullying, stalking Pretty Lit...
Aug 02, 2022•1 hr 31 min•Season 2Ep. 22
Hi this is Brenton, feeling like an idiot for not picking up on where Emily was trying to lead me about the Nabakov tie ins. It wasn't until I was editing that things clicked into place, see if you can piece it together before I did. Anyways in this episode we discuss what we think is going on with Holden, Spoby's bumpy road & creepy British men, our uneasiness with Kate's photo, Fitz's bad grading practices, Mona's turbulent time, Noel & Jenna creating an unholy alliance, Caleb finally ...
Jul 26, 2022•1 hr 34 min•Season 2Ep. 21
