Where God, I don't know, man, I mean, we're taking just to take you guys behind the scenes. And I know, Dick, you mentioned this today off the air, that we were talking about this on the air yesterday, that we're gonna do a bracket on the show today with the most painful moment or the most painful potential moment in Seattle sports history, like, for example, super Bowl forty nine, Sonics leaving for Oklahoma Huskies lose.
To Yukon twice.
Whatever, right, things like that, But Tombo, what would happen if the Ducks sever won a title? What would happen if the thunder everyone? And then Jackson and I I think you kind of eventually came on boards. So what are we doing here? Wait a minute, time tell you this stop the thunder loss last night. We're all in a good mood y. Yeah, it's Friday. Like, what are we doing?
Not?
Down right?
I mean, do we want to just like go on the air and just invite people to come to the studio so we can kick them in the nuts? Is that what we're talking about doing. No, we want people to have fun on this show, So the hell with that. We'll wait on that until something actually is topical that would give it like like, for example, if the Thunder had won.
Last night, right, if they'd won last night.
Maybe that it makes sense. But no, the Nuggets got the job done, the Thunder lost. They're going back to Oklahoma City for Game seven. I'll be honest with you, I don't really give Denver much of a chance to win Game seven. I heard Kendrick Perkins on TV last night saying I'll give him a forty percent chance to win the game, and I'll probably agree with that, maybe maybe.
Thirty percent chance a little bit less.
But this is one of those games where I'm going to approach this game on Sunday the same way I approached the Apple Kepper every year, and maybe really I should start approaching it the way I approach the Organ game every year too. Just bet them, and hey, if they win and the Huskies lose, all right, couple of bucks for the effort, whatever. But if the Husky's pulling off and I lose my bet, I don't give a damn.
I'm a happy camper either way.
So I'm taking the Thunder and the money line on Sunday, and if the Nuggets get the job done, I will gladly pay this.
What is the money, Lion, It's gotta be like minus two foot.
Last time I checked was minus three thirty five.
Yeah, making heavy freaking favorite something, right, Yeah, well the number seven and a half. You could bet the number. I might, I might do both, to be totally honest with you.
Yeah, but if you bet the number, you could still lose.
You could still I could, I could, but I could.
But again, if if if Oklahoma wins the game and Denver happens to cover, right, it'd be nice to have a couple of bucks to help cops the pain after the Thunder make the conference finals. But look, this is great, right, I mean, this is what being an NBA fan I think is all about, you know, being invested in the NBA playoffs. I don't like the reason why we're invested, Dick,
in the NBA playoffs. I know you're a you're a big basketball fan, but a lot of people this time of the year need a reason to kind of pay attention, and this is our reason to pay attention.
Yeah, I know it is.
And you know, while last night was not a great basketball game, I mean, hopefully it's getting yeah, exactly, hopefully it's getting eyeballs on the playoffs because the playoffs as a whole, the whole have been fantastic, and the people that have been watching it consistently through the playoffs realized has been fantastic. And maybe those maybe there's just a sliver of those that I like to make fun of that say, oh, the NBA sucks, NBA socks, NBA sucks.
That's maybe taking a peak just because Denver and Oklahoma City are playing, that are gonna realize, Okay, maybe it doesn't suck that much.
Right, Yeah, Well, look, I mean I think for me, again, like we've talked about before, the NBA still has a regular season issue that they have to sort out, you know. I mean, it's no surprise, and as the games get more important, obviously the ratings will go up because the quality of play will improve, right, I mean, it's it's absolutely not a surprise that this is happening. But it does remind us in a lot of ways of what we're missing, right, and it feels like we're getting closer.
I think somebody asked us, maybe it was you, Dick, or maybe it was you know Bartow. We had on yesterday from Denver who said, if the Sonics come back, Will you still harbor the same amount of animosity for the Thunder and I'm always gonna hate him. Maybe it'll go down a little bit when the Sonics come back, right, But can you imagine, guys, I mean, think about how great that that NFC Championship game was between the Seahawks
and Niners. Think about that playoff game with the Raiders in the playoff game with the Broncos right back in the day, two teams in your division.
Can you imagine.
Close your eyes for a second and imagine how freaking nutsoe a Thunder Sonics Western Conference Finals would be.
It would be incredible?
Are you kidding?
Man?
And I don't think the I don't think the Animasi is gonna die off because just think of what the Animosi is going to feel like Game one of Climate Pledgerina against the Oklahoma City Thunder. You will be able to cut the hatred with a chainsaw in that building. So I don't think it's gonna go away even if we even when we get the team back.
At Jackson, do you think they'll make the visiting fans sit up in the corner like they do in soccer?
I don't Thunder fans.
I don't think they do that anywhere but soccer, so I don't think that'll exist, but I would love it if they did. Like just basically, just make a disclaimer. If you are a Thunder fan coming, you must not purchase tickets except for this section.
Would about the balls to show up?
What about I'm sure?
Yeah, of course?
What about? What about making a game one? Would you want it to be game one?
No?
I wouldn't want to be game one because I want to Game one needs to be a celebration, not I can't stand the Thunder game.
Yeah, give them like the Wizards or something, right, somebody that can just beat up on That's right? All right, Well, here's the deal.
PJ. Carlismo is going to join us. Coming up next segment.
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All right, boys and girls, we're back on a busy Friday right here on ninety three to three kjr FM and NBA Playoffs Hot and Heavy Boston the Knicks tonight, Cel Dick's looking to stave off elimination in Game six tonight Nicks can go to the Conference finals for a matchup with Indiana coming up tonight.
That game is that what time? Five pm? Yeah?
Five pm from New York and then Game seven Sunday Oklahoma City and Denver. One guy we turned to for NBA playoff coverage because he says yes and everybody else says no. Our friend PJ Carlismo coach. How you feeling, man, what's going on?
Not much? Softy Dick. Good talking to you guys in New York. And was supposed to do a couple of these Boston games. But I'm a little bit of a back issue, so I'm laying low for two games and then hopefully joined back up with the Western Conference Final.
I got you.
We'll rest up, my friend, and we were thankful that it didn't affect your voice because we love having your thoughts on the NBA playoffs. And why don't we just start with what you saw last night with Denver in Oklahoma City, because as you know, PJ, all of Seattle is rooting hard and I mean hard for the Denver Nuggets. Like that, right now, talk about what you saw last night and what your thoughts are in Game seven.
Well, first of all, a great effort. I think Nicola Jokic is Nicola jokicch And I'll start by saying before it, regardless of what happens, I expect they'll both be fabulous again on Sunday. It's just it's sad that whichever one does not get the MVP, it's probably gonna be okch. It's almost criminal to have the kind of year they both had. They didn't have good they weren't the best players in the league this year. They had historic years. I mean, you'd stand up to almost any year any
players ever had in the NBA. Fact that one of them is not going to get the MVP trophy. Is sad. The two of them are. They're different, they're so good, They're so good in so many ways. It's amazing, And selfishly, I hope that Game seven lives up to that. I hope both of them play like what they are. The best two players in the league, and you know one of them is going to get it, one of them is not. One of them gets to go forward. But it's amazing to watch them play. Jamal Murray last night
with a really gutty performance, which is impressive. And the difference in the game was just that. I mean, there was four or five other things that were important, but they had two of the three best players in the game Nicola and forget how you wherever you want to put Shay or Nicola one or one A, but Jamal Murray was the next best player in the game and that was why they won. They had two of the top three players. As good a year as Jalen Williams
has had and it's been fantastic. He wasn't you know, bet Jalen Williams last night. That could be a big factor on Sunday. If if again, if Nicole and Jamal Murray are the two best players on the floor. That's gonna be that's gonna give Denver a chance. Now, they needed a whole lot of other things to happen. Michael Porter finally made a couple of shots. Julian Strather was unbelievable. I'm sure all the zag fans that live in Seattle
were enjoying watching me and ched Holmgen play. But I mean for Julian Strawther, I mean he he basically had contributed very little. Christian Brown was excellent again, they just had more players step up. And that's been the okay ce m o okay, see's the deepest team in the league. But that no uses all his players. I mean there's guys I think the average fan doesn't even know, Like I don't given night of Cason Wallace and Aaron Wiggins.
These other guys come in big Jallen Williams. They have so many guys that you know, not even talking about, you know, the Honchos, Alex Caruso, Isaiah Hartenstein and and Cheded Holgen. It's such a deep team. There's so good defensively, they disrupt you so much with their forcing the turnovers and scoring in transition, and they have so many three
point shooters that it's amazing. They were the best team in the NBA this year, not by a little conclusively, but last year when the Celtics won, it was the first time. And I should notice that. I'm gonna say five, six, seven years that the best team in the regular season won the championship. So it just doesn't always go that way. I think it's going to be I thought it was
a great game last night, Straw that was magnificent. Russell Rustberot struggled in the first half, and then he made a huge play late in the game when they were turning the ball over like crazy. That time he split the trap, went into the rim and laid it in. It was a big, big play. He also had the tap Lee bound. He had two good one assist. One should have been an assist. Somebody else missed with either Watson or one of the other players missed a layup off a good pass by Russell. They need to do
that again. They need to have Jokic and Jamal be at the top of their game. They need somebody else, a couple guys. Christian Brown was really good last night. They need Michael Porter to make a couple of shots, or Russell to make a couple of shots, and then somebody to be at the Watson or that blob up the defensive block that that Watson made that wiped out a fast break their way and put it together. It was a great That's been the best series by far,
you know, fantastic series. Edge to ok See they're playing at home. They still have shown the tendency to be able to turn over Denver when they get behind, and I'm wondering if Mark Dagnall is not going to press more and sooner in Game seven, just get after them and make them handle the ball some more, because it's really been a problem for Denver. And when they when they turn it's not just that they turn you over.
When they turn you over, they score, they leave, they leave the league and fewest turnovers themselves, most turnovers forced, and most points off turn So that's such a big part of Okac's game that sometimes even if they're not making their trees or some of their guys don't look that great, they just beat you a team defense and
points off turnovers. So Denver's going to have to withstand that. Yes, it's an advantage, you know, being in the home court, but I don't think that will be the deciding There's also a big experience advantage for Denver. Even though okay See went to the playoffs last year, Denver won two years ago. Denver has some key contributors you know, from an NBA championship team that I think will you know, if you're a Denver fan, hopefully enable them to produce
any Game seven on the road. Okay See still has to prove they can get to that next level that they can win a you know, a huge series. They didn't get out of the second round last year. Their goal this year from day one has been to win a championship. If they do anything other than win a championship, this is going to be a disappointing year for the Thunder.
PJ Carlismo joining us and which every time the Joker goes out of the game, I just hold my breath. I turned blue until coach brings him back into the game. But they were able to stand that last game. He did not play for seven of the minutes in that game, and normally when he's out for those four to ten minutes a game, they get out scored like fifteen to two every game. Why were they able to stand that last night?
Guys stepping up and a little bit of cooperation from OKCE OKC. Guys other than SGA missed shots, they kind of They missed some shots at a critical time that you know, early second and early fourth is when OKAC goes to their bench too, and even though their bench is deeper, they didn't. They didn't perform last night. Some of those guys that you know are a pretty consistent basis all year have been providing a lift for did
not do that last night. Jamal Murray, who has to carry the team when jokers out, stepped up and Julian Straw just blew their minds knocking out of those three. He had ten points at those points so quickly. It was unbelievable. I thought Christian Brown was Brown and Watson's defense was fantastic. All you can do is, I mean, they're making SGA work and he makes it look like
there's nobody guarding them. He's that good. But I just think more players, I know it's simplistic, but more players played better for Denver than did Okay sees guys, and normally that doesn't happen because Okay, just keeps throwing bodies at you, and they find the ones that are playing good on a particular night and they all play. Dagnolf uses his bench better than anybody. But last night, in those non Jokic minutes, they got out played, and that was mainly role players getting out played.
Carls on with us.
So you know, the only thing that matters to me is just getting the Thunder out of there. Okay, I don't really care who wins the title, to be honest with you, I just wanted to not be okay. See, So in your professional opinion, PJ, who would give them the biggest fit who left?
Is it?
I mean Denver obviously is you know, if the Thunder, for example, win Sunday at home, which I think they're going to, is it Minnesota in the conference final and then Boston or New York or Indiana who's already advanced. If the Thunder get this done Sunday and make the conference final, who remaining do you think would give them the biggest matchup problem?
Prior I'll beg off, prior to the JT jury, Jason Tatum, it would have been Boston, a healthy Boston, And I'm really copping out now, But it's a fact. Yeah, Boston without Jason Tatum and with a not healthy Kristaps Porzingis that virus whatever he's got that they don't know. They truly don't know. They're not being secretive about it. They haven't figured the damn thing out. But he's not playing like Kristaps porzingis. And Luke Cornette more than picked him
up the other night. He was fantastic. But I just don't I think the Celtics are out last year, so they could have been everybody's back, an entire team was back, and if they're healthy and everybody's seeing how important health is in the playoffs, it comes back to us every year. It kind of colored the beginning of that Indiana Cleveland series. It certainly was a factor in Boston. You're seeing key guys getting hurt and dramatically changing the matchups. I think
I put Boston too. I put the team that has the best chance to knock out the thunder is in the Western Conference finals, Minnesota, and he's split with him during the year. They have a lot of weapons. They got a great young player. Again, I'm not ready. I'm not sure kind of what I said about Jalen Williams. Ant's probably done a little more to this point, but can Ant do it, you know in the Western Conference Finals? Can he get them over the top of the Western
Conference Finals? Jujush Randall's playing great, Mike Conley, those other guys, now's rietoff the bench that they're strong. But I think it's going to come down to whether Ant man can you know, the best man? Can he compete with Sga. He doesn't have to out play him, but he's got to be right there with him, you know the way Yo kiit Chen Murray are with him in this round. So I say Minnesota first, Boston. If somehow they come back from the dead and win three in a row,
they would be the second biggest option. To me, it is a challenge for the thunder Well coach.
Before we let you go, let's talk about that game coming up in about an hour and a half. I mean, Vegas thinks it's going to be a game. I mean I think if you just thought, okay, and New York's going to take care of business at home, get rid of the Celtics who are underhanded. But two and a half points spread, So do you think this goes down to the wire and we got a chance to send it to a game seven.
I think it's a very good chance send it to seven. I think the first thing that realizes Boston was the best team in the NBA on the road this year, better in Cleveland, better than ok See. They won thirty three games. I believe they were thirty three and eighteen on the road, which is absurd. They were a road team than they were a home team. They were better
away from TV Garden than they were there. And even without JT and even with Chris STAPs, probably at less than one hundred percent, the fact that they're playing on the road will not impact Boston as much as it would impact most teams. They thrive on the road. Now, Jalen Brown's got to play out of his mind, which I think he'll do, as will Jalen Brunson for the Knicks. And then it's gonna be Josh Hart's predictable. What you're gonna get. He's gonna play like a monster. He's gonna
be good. But Kyle Anthony Towns needs to have a big game. H O g Ananold. He has to make Jalen Brown work, which is not easy. But he's got to make him work. I kind of feel about Derek White the same way I feel about Josh Hart. I'm very confident he's gonna he does too many things. He plays defense, he comes up with rebounds, he makes big shots, he can take the ball to the basket. I think Derek White is gonna have a big game too, and so it's gonna become other guys again, Al Horfu, who's
playing great at eight. Luke Cornette, you saw what he did the other night. Peyton Fritchard off the bench. I know a lot of you know, people up our way loved Peyton from when he was at at Oregon. And he's the sixth man of the year. He's got to make shots. Sam Houser's got to make shots. They can do that. They're deeper that they have more bodies for sure than the Knicks too. That could be a factor just in terms of I don't think the Knicks are
necessarily gonna get tired. But if you have seven, eight, nine guys to throw out there, you know there's there's a chance somebody, you know, another guy's gonna step up, like Cornett did last night, like Junian Strawther did last night. The Knixt list is a shorter list. Yeah, campaign Duce mcgride,
they can come off the bench and do something. But Timms rely so much on that front five that it's I think it's going to be much more on Karl, Anthony Towns and O g An Andobie's defense to help decide the game tonight.
PJ, sorry to hear about your back. I want you to rotate ice and heat every twenty minute.
And if that doesn't work, whiskey, lots of whiskey, all right, Paltch Tree bourbon coach.
All right, Doc, I appreciate it.
Thank you, all right, Bud, PJ.
Carlizamo who was hung up in New York with a with a bad back, so he's to be watching basketball tonight like the rest of us. And that and that brings us great segue to our bracket, by the way, at four o'clock today, our Friday bracket, because like I said in the open, we were going to do a bracket that felt totally different. If the thunder had won last night, I think it would have made sense. But
the Nuggets won, So forget that. All of us are Nugget fans right now, right, we can all agree on that that We're all Denver fans right now after what they did yesterday Oklahoma City. I got my Denver nugget t shirt on the way. It'll beer between ten and two tomorrow thanks to Amazon Prime. I can't wait to wear that thing with with pride on Sunday. So the bracket is your favorite non Seattle sports moment, all right now. We got eight possibilities that we're gonna discuss here coming
up at four o'clock twenty twelve. Miami beating Oklahoma City in the end NBA Finals, which by the way, they have not been back to the NBA Finals since then. Ohio State hammering Oregon in this year's Rose Bull Baltimore beating the Niners in Super Bowl forty seven. That's the game where the power went out, remember that, and the Niners had the ball close to the to the end zone they got denied with Kaepernick. Chiefs beating the Niners when the Niners blew that ten point lead in the
fourth quarter. How about cam Newton beating Auburn, excuse me, Oregon in the twenty eleven College Football Championship Game. Ohio State beating Oregon in the twenty fourteen CFP Final, Damian Lillard with his shot that knocked the thunder out in twenty nineteen. And then one of my personal favorites, near and dear to my heart, North Carolina denying Gonzaga the twenty seventeen college basketball National champions in all right, yeah.
For you it is.
So we are going to discuss this at four o'clock our favorite non Seattle sports moments of all time and vote on these at four In the meantime, Fun with Audio next on ninety three to three KJRFM. It's now time for someday in Dick's Fun with Audio, Jimmy g.
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Alrighty, here we go the segment everybody's been waiting for because it's damn good. By the way, Fun with Audio Slash. Hey did you hear that? And it is jam freaking pat baby. All right, let's get to it. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that?
Dick?
We start, by the way with the NBA on Wednesdays, inside the NBA postgame show before oka see loss last night, Cheryl's Barkley declaring what the thunder will do in the playoffs this season.
Nobody's going to beat the Oklahoma City Thunder this year. They're gonna go to the championship and they're gonna win it. Whether they're gonna beat Denver, They're gonna beat Minnesota, and they gonna beat whoever come out to East. We keep looking for holes. They they they are starting to believe. I believe, and I could be wrong. I think the Oklahoma City have proven they're the best team in the NBA. I think he also said that about Cleveland, and I.
Said, I said.
Holes, But I'm the Oklahoma City don't have no holes.
God, bless you, Chuck God. His track record, Oh, it's terrible. Good good.
Oh, he has declared so many teams of dead that they've come back and won.
He it's well, I'll tell you what, if the Nuggets win Sunday, you should play that on Monday again.
Sure, the crap out a whole day. Why not? What the hell?
So if his track record's bad, then that's a good thing that he's predicting.
Very good. All right, Uh, hey, Dick, did you happen to here? What's that Dick? Speaking of the Thunder.
Let's go back eleven years when during an Okay see Brooklyn game on ESPN, Old Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy remember him hanging on to Alonzo Morning's leg ripping into Oklahoma City for having Seattle's franchise records.
When they were Seattle stop fourteen for four putting Seattle and the SuperSonics put the Oklahoma City Thunder.
It's different teams. I don't want to hear about this anymore. They got their.
Team taken away, and now you're gonna bring it up and just put salt on the wound.
Will you stop yelling at me? No, stop with this franchise. It's not the franchise. It's the thunder record. The thunder record is nine for nine. Now do you feel better? I feel better?
Good?
God bless him.
I mean I remember playing that on the air when had happened, and I obviously agree with him.
I think it's ridiculous.
I mean, the only people that care about those moments and those records were the fans that rooted for that team when they happened. Nobody in Oklahoma City gives it damn about Dennis Johnson, Gus Williams, Fred Brown, Paul Silas or Jack Sigma so if they don't, why should we make them care?
It's ridiculous.
Well it's another just another great part about the Sonics being back soon is that will all go to rest now because the Thunder will have their own records.
That have been established over the last eighteen years.
And that's it. That's all are they are? They giving us our history back.
Shared It's supposed to be shared history until we have a team back.
Well, because I was watching Sonics Gate the other night, that's not what those guys said.
Unless something's changed. I don't know.
I mean, you know, shared history, I get. But like their media guide, like let's say the Sonics come back tomorrow, right, is the Thunder media guide next year still going to include all of those accomplishments by the seventy nine team and ninety five ninety six Sonics.
You're you're saying we're sharing. It's Adam Silver.
Both media guides will have the same history pre two thousand and eight.
Adam Silver has got to step in and yes, yes, to be a shared history.
That was the phrase.
Think about this like the Baltimore Colts, Right, the Baltimore Colts obviously you know the move and then where do those franchise records go.
To the Colts. Media, guys, they go to the Colts.
The Colts, And that's the annoying thing, is like, oh, Baltimore has a team, Yeah, but it's called the Colts.
But nobody in Indianapolis cares about that stuff.
They were there, and that's the thing, Like when they come, it's not like it became the Oklahoma City Sonics. Like, so it's not like that transfers that way. It's different than Raven's Colts.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I get your point that if you keep the nickname, it's maybe easier to swallow, but it still is about the town for me.
That's what I'm saying. City, That's what I'm saying.
So I don't know, guys, I'm curious to see how that whole thing plays out.
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that Let's get three or four? All right?
After the Masters last month, Bryson d chambeau said that Rory McElroy did not even talk to him through the final round of augusta well. During a press conference before the PREGA Championship this week, Rory was asked about not talking to Bryson that day.
I don't know what he was expecting. I mean, we're trying to win the Masters. I'm not going to try to be his best met out there. Yeah, look, we look we everyone approaches the game different ways, and yeah, like I I was focused on myself on what I needed to do, and that's really all that it was. You know, it wasn't anything against him or against the just I needed. I felt that's what I needed to do to to try to get the best out of myself that day.
I don't know.
I like both guys, but I don't like either comment. I didn't like Bryson's first comment, and I don't know my response.
What did bon say? Was he was he complaining about what did Roy's? Oh?
Roy, Roy didn't say anything to me that day?
Right?
But okay, but but right, But that's different than somebody's saying, what did Rory say to you?
Nothing?
He didn't talk to me? Or was he was he complaining about that? Like, didn't bother him?
He was asked twice, and in the second answer, he he kind of emphasized that no, Rory wouldn't talk to me, And so I didn't like that and I didn't like, you know, I didn't like Rory's first I was okay with the last fifteen seconds of what he said, but the first fifteen second, We're trying to win a golf to no, dude, Guys talk in majors all the time and still say focus and still, I mean, you don't have to go like full on, I'm going to ignore
this other guy, play mind games with him. By not saying a word to him, you can still be cordial and be in his twosome ers threesome.
Well, I I did. I told you.
I did talk to one guy that I know that has played in majors and golf tournaments before, and he says, when when two players are going at it for a title, it's not uncommon where they would not talk to each other like that.
That's nothing new.
Right, But it sounded like Rory played the ignore game.
There's a difference in not talking to somebody, Yeah, and then like if you're being addressed, you're just ignoring them, And that's almost it sound like what Rory did.
Let's they're they're definitely sounded like there's a little bit of animals there towards Bryson from Rory and I don't blame Bryson for having a little bit of animosity towards him, because when the whole lift thing started, I mean, he's not as outspoken as he was, you know.
Two years ago, but Rory was the leader.
I mean, he was shooting his mouth off to everybody who would listen about to live guys, and then Bryson was one of the first guys to go over there. So, I mean, human nature is not surprising at all that there's a little bit of friction between those two guys. All right, let's get one more before the break. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? What's that?
Dick?
On part of the Interruption this week on ESPN, Tony Kornheiser talking about Pete Rose's Hall of Fame eligibility and why he will have a hard time actually getting in.
Rob Manford does not put you in the Hall of Fame. The Baseball writers who are members put you in the Hall of Fame. Those baseball writers, as we know well, are guardians of the game. They take violations very seriously. Joe Jackson fixed games, okay, Pete Rose bet on game as a manager of one team that doesn't go away. You know what else is eligible for the Hall of Fame right now? Barry Bonds is eligible, Mark McGuire is eligible, Sammy so so Roger. They're eligible. Are they getting in
anytime soon? Doesn't look that way from the voting. I agree that when your life is gone, it's okay to be eligible for something. But I do not see Pete Rose as a first ballot Hall of Fame.
I just don't, Okay, I disagree with him.
That's fine. Again, I think it's pretty simple. You know, we're talking about honoring the player, not the person. The player not the person. Okay, you want to you want to keep these guys band from dealing with clubs and interacting with players and having access to information that most people aren't privy to.
I totally understand that.
But like I told Larry on Wednesday, I feel like the Hall of Fame and this will come down to a committee. By the way Larry explained that, I thought, great on Wednesday, this is not going to be a traditional vote for people Rose and Joe Jackson. I'll have to go on this committee and it's not going to meet for three more years, right for crying out loud.
So it's it's it's it's really up to twelve people.
Now if Pete Rose and Joe Jackson make the Hall of Fame, but you put him in the Hall of Fame, and you acknowledge the incredible talent as a player, and then on the plaque you inscribe bang for life for betting on baseball period.
That's right, that's right, and you just include I mean, Ty Cobb's in the Hall of Fame, right, right, right, boy, ty Cobb.
You ever seen the biography of Ty Cobb?
I mean, yeah, there's also a lot of people that dispute that, by the way, Okay, that's that's actually a good read. There's a lot of people that don't think he was as big a racist as he's portrayed to be.
But he was not a great guy. I mean, is there.
Is there a scale of racism you can't be?
Yeah, I mean absolutely can you'd be a free even not a seven Well, sure, sure you can't. You can slip up and say something stupid one day, and you can maybe live your life every day and have hate in your heart.
And I don't have no idea what ty Cob was all about.
The image of Ty Cobb that I have is a just absolute blatant did who acted every day with hate and bigotry in his heart.
And I don't know if I don't know if that's fair enough.
That's I'm just saying that there's an understand that and there's been stories have been written about him that maybe a lot of that's been overblown, but the point is well taken, is that there's people that are in the Hall of Fame. O. J. Simpsons in Kanton, Ohio, he killed two people.
Okay.
I mean again, you're just cherry picking what history you want to represent and and acknowledge and what you don't, and I.
Don't like it. I think you put both guys.
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